I never knew, calling 'BG' is a CRIME! NOTE pg 16 - Page 8

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Posted: 14 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: hindu4lyf


LOL! That's actually quite funny because I may not live in India but I have spent many months in aamchi Mumbai. I've probably been to Mumbai more than any other city in the world lol and as a matter of fact BOTH my parents are from Mumbai so I know the meaning of the word very well😉

I know very well what type of ghati language is used all over Mumbai but I also know that two people having an everyday normal convo, do not call each other such names. Plus I'm pretty sure my mum would not be smiling if I were to tell her such a word.😳So I beg to differ with you..it is NOT nothing..maybe it has become a part of your everyday lingo but that does not mean Mumbaikars and others use it frequently..at least my family and friends don't in Mumbai (thank God for that!)

how can anyone say that such terms are used as normal lingo in any part of India and if it is its when friends are having fun among themselves they use slang and derogatory words but its more from affection...
Maan said all this in anger and that too not to Geet directly but to someone else while she was present there... So please dont undermine the impact of such language when spoken in anger for someone he says he loves and honours above all... he then goes and calls her someone without honour and character... In fact Geet would have not been so badly hurt if these words would have come from Brij or Darji or NT or Dev or even Dadi... The reason for her deep wounds is that these words came from the mouth of someone who assured her that he respects loves her more than all.. and for him she is the most pavitra person.
Anyway... this is my POV and it might be different to what others feel.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sksg



I do not want to get into a prolonged argument. So, I will say only this much that if you willfully want to never find fault with what Geet did, then that is your POV and I respect you for that. But as for my part, no amount of justification can justify her act of forgiving Dev and her current indifference to Maan, period. If she is so caring enough of Khurana family that she could forgive Dev, then in the first place, she wouldn't have walked out on all of them because of her husband's outburst. What wrong did Dadi or Annie do that she walked out on them as well?

This has nothing to do with you personally, but when I find people trying to justify Geet's acts of forgiving Dev and her continued indifference to Maan, (especially when Maan's repentance is much more potent than Dev's remorse), I am reminded of the human rights activists that fight for the rights of convicted terrorists, yet ignore the plight of their victims. That is just an analogy, I am not equating anyone to anyone else, so please those who read it, don't blow it out of proportion. Her dialog of today that she can forgive anything but the current crime of Maan is in my opinion not justifiable at all, especially when it comes from the victim of attempted murder and rape who could forgive those perpetrators/criminals.


Everything works two ways right? So similarly if one constantly looks to find fault in Geet's behaviour, then you will succeed. The point I was trying to make is that it was Dev that did what he did to Geet, it was Geet that went through it and not Maan and if she chooses to forgive him then that's her choice. At the end of the day, we may consider it wrong and think that such a deed is unforgivable but it makes her the bigger person. Dev was a stranger, Maan is her husband and that counts for a lot more.

I'm sorry but I honestly think it is extremely foolish to compare the justification of Geet's actions to the justification of human rights of a terrorists. This is simply an online forum where we are discussing fictional characters..maybe you consider what Geet has done to be a big sin..I don't. I respect your opinion but I don't respect you comparing the show to terrorists and their human rights. I am not blowing what you said out of proportion but honestly that is not a like for like comparison from any angle. Anyway I seem to be repeating myself here..I do understand where you're coming from in general although I respectfully disagree.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: kesha2412

how can anyone say that such terms are used as normal lingo in any part of India and if it is its when friends are having fun among themselves they use slang and derogatory words but its more from affection...
Maan said all this in anger and that too not to Geet directly but to someone else while she was present there... So please dont undermine the impact of such language when spoken in anger for someone he says he loves and honours above all... he then goes and calls her someone without honour and character... In fact Geet would have not been so badly hurt if these words would have come from Brij or Darji or NT or Dev or even Dadi... The reason for her deep wounds is that these words came from the mouth of someone who assured her that he respects loves her more than all.. and for him she is the most pavitra person.
Anyway... this is my POV and it might be different to what others feel.


@bold: Exactly! We often give gaaliyas to one another and call each other names but how often do we tell someone they have no self-respect?

They both are wrong somewhere or another but I don't understand how people can blindly defend Maan's actions and attack Geet at the same time? It's like saying that Maan has saved Geet so many times before so it automatically gives him the right to treat her badly.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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OMG....girl...!!! me to has has ke pagal ho gayi yaar....!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

kya baat kya baat kya baat...................👏


ha ha ha....you are so right. CVs ka dimag istemal karte hue, Maan is biggest baighairat.....more than geet......chalo chalo....maan ko saza do..............😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Alright this topic keeps on coming up and I couldn't resist adding my opinion.

Firstly I would like to say that people need to really put themselves in Geet's shoes. She has lost a baby. If that doesn't cause emotional imbalance in people I don't know what does. She is probably going through depression which explains the tears, loss of appetite, lack of interest and inability to move forward. I can tell you personally that depression is not something easy to deal with and just because she has an amazing husband like Maan doesn't mean she can just forget everything else. No matter how amazing anyone's husband is, in most relationships wives look up to their husbands as equals (as it should be).

Secondly Geet never said that what Maan said was a crime or a sin...she said that it hurt her immensely and she can't move past the words. She was already broken down with all that was going on in her life. And for the ONE person she loves unconditionally to say that she has no self respect must be a kick to the heart. And in that vulnerable state people take impulsive actions, I am sure most of you have as well. Some people have mentioned that worse words are spoken in Mumbai...but Geet and Maan have never spoken to each other like that except in anger. Its not the norm for THEM.

What Dev did was unforgivable, yet Geet let her anger go because she knew that Khurana family will never be able to move forward otherwise, especially her and Maan. Forgiving Dev is totally separate from forgiving Maan. Dev has no importance for her because the reason why she was fighting against him, ie her child is gone. The reason she is unable to let go of her hurt from Maan is because HE is integral to her self esteem and respect. If he doesn't respect her than she has nowhere to turn. Does she doubt his love? NO! but she does question if he has respect for her.

I am not blaming Maan...he said something in anger and something he undoubtedly he regrets. I am just saying that in order to make one character right there is no need to make the other one wrong.


Edited by maan-ki-sanjana - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: hindu4lyf


@bold: Exactly! We often give gaaliyas to one another and call each other names but how often do we tell someone they have no self-respect?

They both are wrong somewhere or another but I don't understand how people can blindly defend Maan's actions and attack Geet at the same time? It's like saying that Maan has saved Geet so many times before so it automatically gives him the right to treat her badly.



Okay, first things comes first babes ! I'm not BLINDLY DEFENDING Maan at all ! I really do not care, when he was wrong, i was the first one who took a step and hated him, but if this, i'm not finding him wrong, then, i can't help it !

And, yes thankfully, i'm also not coming from that area, but i do JOB in that area, and in 22 years of life, i've spent half of it in mumbai, and all my family is there, working, me too worked and saw real mumbai and not Hi - fi, glamsham mumbai ! So, i know, you can't avoid it, when you work there in such place ! Starting from your top class boss sitting in AC cabin to the basti wala peon ! I have seen it all ! So, that's why i said, i see it everyday at job and people who work along with me ! And, surat i will PM you ! Can't write here ! 😉

And, yes as i said earlier, there is no point in discussing who is right and who is wrong ? coz, i literally fear from geet lovers here ! So, i better keep my mouth shut, but its not that, i'm blind and numb, i can see that, too !

For once, i have discussed about geet's state and justified her act, but no more now, i can't, coz i only write those things, which i feel ! And, if her tears do not reach me and i can't feel her pain, i can't help it ! You cry one rare day and people will cry with you, but you cry everyday, and people will say ' Cut the crap ! ' 😆 Moreover, as i said somewhere, do not remember where, but if someone willingly want geet to be proved right and justified her action, by tools of pain, sadness, distress and self respect, then I GIVE UP ! We can't change someone's stubbornness, we better leave it !

And, i don't think so Maan ever doubted her, if this is what you see and feel, then i'm really very sorry, but no more MAANEET magic anyone can feel now !

Plus, Maan did wrong, he was at fault, but what he did WAS NOT CRIME at all ! Whether you agree or not ! It's crime for god sake, calling few rude and impolite words to your wife in anger, does not make any CRIME ! I, 100% disagree, and no one can convince me for that !

And, what i wonder is that, people can feel her pain, fine ! It's nice, being woman feel it, but, at the same time, does not Maan's humiliation and insult reach to all ?

If, no then fine ! I will consider them as blind geet lovers, and they are justified ! But, this is dragging, whether you agree or not ! And, CVs have ruined her character, you may accept the fact or not ! It's your choice, but most of us, are agree that geet is not the same lady, whom we loved !

She was one of my favorite, i used to like her a lot, but from holi, i lost her, and still could not find her, she claimed that, she was diff ! But, now I see many stubborn woman like her, she is being a typical wife, so normal and i can find crores of geet in each home, counting from my own mother, she also fight, and very big one, more than Maan and geet, but she never leave home ( That's plus point ) !


CVs claimed that, geet will do something diff, and yes for sure she did something diff, very diff ! All can see !



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: maanisthebest

OMG....girl...!!! me to has has ke pagal ho gayi yaar....!!! 🤣


kya baat kya baat kya baat...................👏


ha ha ha....you are so right. CVs ka dimag istemal karte hue, Maan is biggest baighairat.....more than geet......chalo chalo....maan ko saza do..............😆



Yaar...thank god you liked it, i thought it was made for fun, but people just.....chhoddo ji....! 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: maan-ki-sanjana

Alright this topic keeps on coming up and I couldn't resist adding my opinion.

Firstly I would like to say that people need to really put themselves in Geet's shoes. She has lost a baby. If that doesn't cause emotional imbalance in people I don't know what does. She is probably going through depression which explains the tears, loss of appetite, lack of interest and inability to move forward. I can tell you personally that depression is not something easy to deal with and just because she has an amazing husband like Maan doesn't mean she can just forget everything else. No matter how amazing anyone's husband is, in most relationships wives look up to their husbands as equals (as it should be).

Secondly Geet never said that what Maan said was a crime or a sin...she said that it hurt her immensely and she can't move past the words. She was already broken down with all that was going on in her life. And for the ONE person she loves unconditionally to say that she has no self respect must be a kick to the heart. And in that vulnerable state people take impulsive actions, I am sure most of you have as well. Some people have mentioned that worse words are spoken in Mumbai...but Geet and Maan have never spoken to each other like that except in anger. Its not the norm for THEM.

What Dev did was unforgivable, yet Geet let her anger go because she knew that Khurana family will never be able to move forward otherwise, especially her and Maan. Forgiving Dev is totally separate from forgiving Maan. Dev has no importance for her because the reason why she was fighting against him, ie her child is gone. The reason she is unable to let go of her hurt from Maan is because HE is integral to her self esteem and respect. If he doesn't respect her than she has nowhere to turn. Does she doubt his love? NO! but she does question if he has respect for her.

I am not blaming Maan...he said something in anger and something he undoubtedly he regrets. I am just saying that in order to make one character right there is no need to make the other one wrong.




Did you really watched yesterday episode ? Or my ears are gone ! 😆 I heard that, was it mistake ? She said it herself, in her normal state ! I need to check, go to youtube now ! 😆


And, yes babes ! I or anyone in this world, do not need to prove Maan right, coz he does not need justification at all ! But, when individually geet is wrong, then, people will say, it does NOT MEAN that, for proving Maan right, i'm proving geet wrong, she is already wrong ! No need to prove it !

BTW, my view is that, both are at fault, but RIGHT NOW, cvs have falied miserably to show geet's pain ! All they are showing is some typical stubborn wife !

And, when i mentioned about words, i did not mean it to Maan and Geet ! They are to sophisticated souls ! 😆 They will never use, i made it for fun ! But, i really do not have any idea, why people brought discussion here ? I was OPENLY BLAMING MAAN for being biggest BG of all the time !


Trust me, i don't wanna discuss more on geet, coz if you willingly want geet to be right then, I give up ! Okay she is right, and same old tools of pain, tears, depression, and all that ladies fav tools ! 😆 ( Mind you, i also use it sometime to get new laptop or mobile ! ) 😆





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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: kesha2412

Snehal respect your views atleast you are sensible in your opinions...
But it wasnt just anyone for Geet, it was Maan. The same Maan who said that she is the most pavitra person for him. The same Maan who accepted her after all the past happenings. The same Maan says she has no gairat and she has safed khoon (which means - translates someone who lacks character). Just thinking about what might have gone through her gives me goosebumps. Dev and her family never mattered to her a much as Maan matters to her, even now.
I do agree that they need to show that Geet is melting and that she is... she loves Maan. If she was really angry with him she would have shunned him a lot more vehmently than she is at present. She feels for his plight and all that he is going through. And its not her ego thats stopping her it is her 'id' - the less rational and darker part of an individuals psychology.
What I am sad about is the amout of Geet bashing that is going on in this forum. And this is not just this time but every time that its only Geet that is bashed. Even when she is not in the wrong and Maan is wrong some individuals in this forum come out with excuses for his totally rude and unwarrented behaviour but when it comes to Geet being wrong she is bashed left right and centre.
Anyway this is my POV and as we are individuals we can all differ in our opinions.



Why are you becoming so judgmental babes ? You see, one person is wrong, two is wrong, three, four, five and six may be wrong, but when it grows bigger and bigger, how will you deal with that ? All can never be wrong ??!!?!!? How can we deal ? To give answers to everyone ?


I'm not liking this bashing thing at all, but why people always fail to understand one simple logic, when you are the lead and loved by many, then prepare yourself for unlimited love and unlimited criticism !


I don't know, whether you agree or not, and accept it or not, but CVs have ruined geet's character very badly and now, only justification can bring her back, you agree or not, but many people inside GF, outside GF, in real world, feels the same way !






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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: maanddy



Did you really watched yesterday episode ? Or my ears are gone ! 😆 I heard that, was it mistake ? She said it herself, in her normal state ! I need to check, go to youtube now ! 😆


And, yes babes ! I or anyone in this world, do not need to prove Maan right, coz he does not need justification at all ! But, when individually geet is wrong, then, people will say, it does NOT MEAN that, for proving Maan right, i'm proving geet wrong, she is already wrong ! No need to prove it !

BTW, my view is that, both are at fault, but RIGHT NOW, cvs have falied miserably to show geet's pain ! All they are showing is some typical stubborn wife !

And, when i mentioned about words, i did not mean it to Maan and Geet ! They are to sophisticated souls ! 😆 They will never use, i made it for fun ! But, i really do not have any idea, why people brought discussion here ? I was OPENLY BLAMING MAAN for being biggest BG of all the time !


Trust me, i don't wanna discuss more on geet, coz if you willingly want geet to be right then, I give up ! Okay she is right, and same old tools of pain, tears, depression, and all that ladies fav tools ! 😆 ( Mind you, i also use it sometime to get new laptop or mobile ! ) 😆







Sorry I was going to edit the "Crime or sin" part 😆......I wrote it in a totally different context initially...

But you said Geet in her normal state....Geet hasn't been in her normal state since the MC...at least not from what I have seen.

I don't "willingly" want Geet to be right...just as you have your POV I have my own...its not through a view of trying to make Geet always right....I've blamed her in past instances as well.......just as you say you have blamed Maan initially.

And "same old tools of of pain, tears, depression, and all that ladies fav tools" I don't think it applies here because she isn't doing this to achieve anything. Its just that she can't let go of what is happened. That actually happens when someone is depressed, the same incident goes around your head all the time.

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