What Do I Mean When I Say Sorry. - Page 7

Originally posted by: esha143

Then please give me your hand....

Originally posted by: nanditasingh

thats so generous & sweet of you ..but sadly i've been expressing my views lately ..earlier i have restricted my stay to the galleries alone , there after i did write daily updates at group thread ..but now having quit there i do share my views at a warm & friendly post called Crazies Incredibles ...lots of us write & share our day to day views there ...do join in. And when moments really do touch me i make a individual thread....links of which i'll surely sort out for my dear friends here. It will be an honor to do that. Thanks a ton dear

Originally posted by: nanditasingh

What Do I Mean When I Say Sorry.


"Never ruin an apology with an excuse." - Kimberly Johnson


I had read of this a few days back in my friend's 'Q Book' quotes collection book. But to be truthful it dint appeal to me much as i could not really apply it to any of my experience to judge its impact.

But today i understood it.

Unlike few i had actually loved 'the slap' scene for its execution ...yes i did. The scene was flawless.
It did not disrespect Maan's character as the slap was brought out as an reflex not indeed action & Geet's character too coz woman under such anger & pressure all she cares for is to break free & she did that....why woman its human nature.

Similarly today too i found the 'Apology' scene PERFECT.

Perfect, since Geet did not reason her words , her reaction as an outcome of his actions.
But plainly understood her mistake & asked his forgiveness for it.
Dint ruin her apology by thinking of him having given her the reason , nor did she think as a 'Feminist' ,

but she thought as she should, as his better half, as an individual.

👏 luved this part..thats wat i like in thsi girl..even though she makes mistakes
once and if she comes to know that she was wrong ..then she doesnt hold any more grudges or ego problems and ask for forgiveness..i luv that part in her😳

Geet hurt Maan not alone by her words, questions but prime most by her not trusting him , his love , their love.

He was not hurt by her questions but her accusation that 'all love lost ' between them. It hurt him. He dint deserve it , till date his actions & love for her has only made her trust & love him more..never to lose on it.
Yet time and again she loses her trust & when truth reflects she regrets her words & actions.

This time too is no different.


She owing to his keeping distance from her & finding her 'agony aunt advise' from telly so readily believed that the man who has come as blessing to her , that she herself agrees on... loves her no more, their bond that to him has always been sacred has lost its charm & she who is above all to him , his devotion to him is no more cared.

He is hurt , he is hurt that she could even think it this way.

He opens his heart if not the truth , he pleads for forgiveness & cries to her that he himself too is in pain, yes 'helpless'. He admits he is helpless & that is the most solid truth of the moment as is the danger to the Baby's life in words of the Doctor , that he is following religiously.

He has feelings too , he too has waited for 'this' moment when she is all his to love & cherish. But he cares not of his desires & no way wants to get any close to her where there can be no backing out but regret.

Regret if the weakness of a moment takes away even 1% chance of the Baby's survival. Regret if coming back to his senses he has to leave Geet hurt mid way through their passionate moment .

Risk is too much as the one at stake is his heart & his soul, Geet & the Baby.


He dreads telling her the truth , again i ask what is more terrible to a Woman, her man that she thinks is ignoring her or the news that her child may die in her womb.?

I talk for myself & to me its the fear of losing her child that is one she cannot be able to bear & if hit by such news she will only end up hasten the loss than stop it.

Stopping it, if not making an attempt to stall it is what Maan is doing.

Geet's accusations & questions when put in flow are no where near to stopping.

This man who is worn out by the fear of the future , worried -concerned - fearful for her health , fighting his own demons, his desires that are flamed by her actions trying to get near him , and to add to it his having to lie to his love every single moment when the are alone eats him up from within.

If a war going on inside his mind, his heart, with life & death, with God & his prayers were not enough she brings up a moment where he has to fight her.

Fight her for her sake, fight her from questioning him further, fight to hide the truth , fight to make her see his pain...Fight to make her trust their love. Fight for her patience.

But how can one fight when the weapon used against him is one that to him is his life itself...here Geet & her well being.
And fight he does, to stop her.

He shouts at her something that was both expected, as she always has felt he is too good to be true - too good for someone not 'pavitr' like her;
yet was unexpected as he never-ever made her feel that, he has been the only person, only man who has made her feel pure, needed, protected, trusted, respected & loved.


His mean words find the right target , she stops her tirade of questions, tireless accusation.


She cries now with loss, loss of words & anyother emotion but fear & loss - pain. Fear that what she had deeply rooted in her subconscious mind about their relationship has come true.

this fear must have been in her mind due to the difficulties she faced since childhood..how no one trusted n how everyone she knew( beside maan's gang) broke her trust n faith...not because she might not have faith in maan or that she doesnt trust maan. she does trusts maan more than anyone else in this world..more than herself..but this fear which started subconciously in her heart due to other people sometimes over ride her sensibility and her mind n she tends to question maan..

Loss both of words & the man she loves. Pain at having lost one hope, that one life line that she counted on always.


He leaves her unable to see what he did , knowing that it was all he could do without giving away the truth , only thing - only way that could take her mind off the questions ; he does not hold her to him.He leaves.


She ponders over his hurtful words all through the day , more now coz he was gone. She does that until a other side of the coin , of the situation is brought to her notice by the Doctor who cannot stop but praise of the man who is so concerned for his wife.


His love for her, not lack of it that she had accused him of was the reason he distanced himself from her. A piece of news that affects her hard, her love & pride for the many increases so does her sense of guilt.

Its not the first time, but repeat of the same mistake she has been making & regretting - this makes her impatient more to voice her apology.


If a mother took over a daughter/sister when she fought her family to save her child.

If a lover lost to a mother when she told him that though she comes first to him - to her its her child that comes first

Today a wife takes over the concerned mother as now she knows binded by his love , promise above all by his principles not she but Maan, the father of her child is caring & thinking for it, she gives away any need to think .

She knows the Baby is safe & loved.

infact she knows that..even if anything bad happens to her (not that i want it to)..there is maan to look after her baby..thats the belief she has in him which she dint even have on anyone else...thats maan...Geet ki maan..before she was alone..but now she got a whole new world in maan

But the man who has assured her & her Baby of this love & trust..its his trust that she broke , its his loving heart that she stabbed at.


She has to apologizes & mend his heart, their relationship is her only concern & its this concern that makes her forget the speed of time, her surrounding, sense of guilt & love is so big that she does not feel the fire burning her duppata as she rushes into his arms to hear his heart beat to her name, for her.


He is at loss of words again, he left at home a sad , hurt & angry wife but returns to a all smiling, misty eyed & loving woman who hates every single minute that he has to move out of her sight. He is confused by her change in behavior, in fear as to him still the truth is only his to be guarded & in pain coz he knows yet again he has to lie & keep away from her.

All lost & defeated he moves away though he voices his concern strictly at her present actions & to how wrong they are for their Baby.


She apologizes.

For every mistake that I know I make,
There are many that I don't.
For every problem that I know I've caused,
There are many times when I've stopped and paused,
And realized only later, the reason for so many emotional wars.


As a wife at first for not trusting his love, belittling their love & marriage , for not seeing his pain & being blinded by her 'self' thoughts.

He never expected her to apologizes ..even when she had wronged him ..he took it as his own shortcoming in winning her trust & he himself had said sorry..today too he dint want her sorry but only her trust & love.

To this he says sorry for his harsh words.


Sorry.

A plain sorry no tears or getting on his knees or anyother visual aid to present his apology.

A plain sorry with the truth, truth that he said what he said coz he dint know what else to do to stop her questions/accusations , all he knew was 'truth i cannot say & lies don't come to me easily & your questions were adding up non stop & i had to stop u.'

He dint mean it & now he knows that she knows that he dint mean it ..it was forced by her rather than by him.

So he says a plain sorry - nothing more , nothing less .


He is not guilty since he dint mean any of it that he said , but sorry he is , and sorry he genuinely said.

u did give an awesome difference between " guilty" and "being sorry"..many think it that these two words implies the same thing...but there is a slight difference n a small line which differenciates these two from each other

Guilty she is.


So she finds her own apology made a moment before too trivial compared to the wrong she has done.


She meant what she said, but he dint. She meant it when she said he no more loves her.

She meant when she said she has lost her trust in him.

She broke not alone his heart but his trust by losing her trust in his love.

And her meaning what she hit him with is what makes her guilty.


The wife having voiced her feelings mother too wants to have her say, she thanks her Baby's father for being so thoughtful & selfless.

She holds him close to herself & their Baby & the promises to them & herself to keep her trust in her man, their love.



Though i had said whatever i felt about the root moment in my last post My Reflection - I was lost and now I am found. guess something more was left...so i said it now, completed it.

Thank you Creatives for a Sensible & Flawless Moment & for staying true to the characters.

i loved the way the graveness of the hurt & Reason was given importance rather than words alone taken on face value.

Hence it was Geet's apology not Maan's that marked the moment.

Love
Nandita

Originally posted by: Rituparnaa

Oh Nandita......what a brilliant post !

Due to shoratge of time am writing less.Will edit later !

Uno what I found yday epi a perfect one with the beautiful understanding between MG.This is what I always expected from the show.I mean it was really nice the way Geet understood her mistake n Maan reassured her in his arms.Loved it when he explained his helplessness abt avoiding her with his words.Infact I too wanna thank CVs the way it was executed flawlessly.

Originally posted by: nanditasingh

What Do I Mean When I Say Sorry.


"Never ruin an apology with an excuse." - Kimberly Johnson


I had read of this a few days back in my friend's 'Q Book' quotes collection book. But to be truthful it dint appeal to me much as i could not really apply it to any of my experience to judge its impact.

But today i understood it.

Unlike few i had actually loved 'the slap' scene for its execution ...yes i did. The scene was flawless.
It did not disrespect Maan's character as the slap was brought out as an reflex not indeed action & Geet's character too coz woman under such anger & pressure all she cares for is to break free & she did that....why woman its human nature.

Similarly today too i found the 'Apology' scene PERFECT.

Perfect, since Geet did not reason her words , her reaction as an outcome of his actions.
But plainly understood her mistake & asked his forgiveness for it.
Dint ruin her apology by thinking of him having given her the reason , nor did she think as a 'Feminist' ,

but she thought as she should, as his better half, as an individual.

Geet hurt Maan not alone by her words, questions but prime most by her not trusting him , his love , their love.

He was not hurt by her questions but her accusation that 'all love lost ' between them. It hurt him. He dint deserve it , till date his actions & love for her has only made her trust & love him more..never to lose on it.
Yet time and again she loses her trust & when truth reflects she regrets her words & actions.

This time too is no different.


She owing to his keeping distance from her & finding her 'agony aunt advise' from telly so readily believed that the man who has come as blessing to her , that she herself agrees on... loves her no more, their bond that to him has always been sacred has lost its charm & she who is above all to him , his devotion to him is no more cared.

He is hurt , he is hurt that she could even think it this way.

He opens his heart if not the truth , he pleads for forgiveness & cries to her that he himself too is in pain, yes 'helpless'. He admits he is helpless & that is the most solid truth of the moment as is the danger to the Baby's life in words of the Doctor , that he is following religiously.

He has feelings too , he too has waited for 'this' moment when she is all his to love & cherish. But he cares not of his desires & no way wants to get any close to her where there can be no backing out but regret.

Regret if the weakness of a moment takes away even 1% chance of the Baby's survival. Regret if coming back to his senses he has to leave Geet hurt mid way through their passionate moment .

Risk is too much as the one at stake is his heart & his soul, Geet & the Baby.


He dreads telling her the truth , again i ask what is more terrible to a Woman, her man that she thinks is ignoring her or the news that her child may die in her womb.?

I talk for myself & to me its the fear of losing her child that is one she cannot be able to bear & if hit by such news she will only end up hasten the loss than stop it.

Stopping it, if not making an attempt to stall it is what Maan is doing.

Geet's accusations & questions when put in flow are no where near to stopping.

This man who is worn out by the fear of the future , worried -concerned - fearful for her health , fighting his own demons, his desires that are flamed by her actions trying to get near him , and to add to it his having to lie to his love every single moment when the are alone eats him up from within.

If a war going on inside his mind, his heart, with life & death, with God & his prayers were not enough she brings up a moment where he has to fight her.

Fight her for her sake, fight her from questioning him further, fight to hide the truth , fight to make her see his pain...Fight to make her trust their love. Fight for her patience.

But how can one fight when the weapon used against him is one that to him is his life itself...here Geet & her well being.
And fight he does, to stop her.

He shouts at her something that was both expected, as she always has felt he is too good to be true - too good for someone not 'pavitr' like her;
yet was unexpected as he never-ever made her feel that, he has been the only person, only man who has made her feel pure, needed, protected, trusted, respected & loved.


His mean words find the right target , she stops her tirade of questions, tireless accusation.


She cries now with loss, loss of words & anyother emotion but fear & loss - pain. Fear that what she had deeply rooted in her subconscious mind about their relationship has come true.
Loss both of words & the man she loves. Pain at having lost one hope, that one life line that she counted on always.


He leaves her unable to see what he did , knowing that it was all he could do without giving away the truth , only thing - only way that could take her mind off the questions ; he does not hold her to him.He leaves.


She ponders over his hurtful words all through the day , more now coz he was gone. She does that until a other side of the coin , of the situation is brought to her notice by the Doctor who cannot stop but praise of the man who is so concerned for his wife.


His love for her, not lack of it that she had accused him of was the reason he distanced himself from her. A piece of news that affects her hard, her love & pride for the many increases so does her sense of guilt.

Its not the first time, but repeat of the same mistake she has been making & regretting - this makes her impatient more to voice her apology.


If a mother took over a daughter/sister when she fought her family to save her child.

If a lover lost to a mother when she told him that though she comes first to him - to her its her child that comes first

Today a wife takes over the concerned mother as now she knows binded by his love , promise above all by his principles not she but Maan, the father of her child is caring & thinking for it, she gives away any need to think .

She knows the Baby is safe & loved.


But the man who has assured her & her Baby of this love & trust..its his trust that she broke , its his loving heart that she stabbed at.


She has to apologizes & mend his heart, their relationship is her only concern & its this concern that makes her forget the speed of time, her surrounding, sense of guilt & love is so big that she does not feel the fire burning her duppata as she rushes into his arms to hear his heart beat to her name, for her.


He is at loss of words again, he left at home a sad , hurt & angry wife but returns to a all smiling, misty eyed & loving woman who hates every single minute that he has to move out of her sight. He is confused by her change in behavior, in fear as to him still the truth is only his to be guarded & in pain coz he knows yet again he has to lie & keep away from her.

All lost & defeated he moves away though he voices his concern strictly at her present actions & to how wrong they are for their Baby.


She apologizes.

For every mistake that I know I make,
There are many that I don't.
For every problem that I know I've caused,
There are many times when I've stopped and paused,
And realized only later, the reason for so many emotional wars.


As a wife at first for not trusting his love, belittling their love & marriage , for not seeing his pain & being blinded by her 'self' thoughts.

He never expected her to apologizes ..even when she had wronged him ..he took it as his own shortcoming in winning her trust & he himself had said sorry..today too he dint want her sorry but only her trust & love.

To this he says sorry for his harsh words.


Sorry.

A plain sorry no tears or getting on his knees or anyother visual aid to present his apology.

A plain sorry with the truth, truth that he said what he said coz he dint know what else to do to stop her questions/accusations , all he knew was 'truth i cannot say & lies don't come to me easily & your questions were adding up non stop & i had to stop u.'

He dint mean it & now he knows that she knows that he dint mean it ..it was forced by her rather than by him.

So he says a plain sorry - nothing more , nothing less .


He is not guilty since he dint mean any of it that he said , but sorry he is , and sorry he genuinely said.


Guilty she is.


So she finds her own apology made a moment before too trivial compared to the wrong she has done.


She meant what she said, but he dint. She meant it when she said he no more loves her.

She meant when she said she has lost her trust in him.

She broke not alone his heart but his trust by losing her trust in his love.

And her meaning what she hit him with is what makes her guilty.


The wife having voiced her feelings mother too wants to have her say, she thanks her Baby's father for being so thoughtful & selfless.

She holds him close to herself & their Baby & the promises to them & herself to keep her trust in her man, their love.



Though i had said whatever i felt about the root moment in my last post My Reflection - I was lost and now I am found. guess something more was left...so i said it now, completed it.

Thank you Creatives for a Sensible & Flawless Moment & for staying true to the characters.

i loved the way the graveness of the hurt & Reason was given importance rather than words alone taken on face value.

Hence it was Geet's apology not Maan's that marked the moment.

Love
Nandita

Originally posted by: lily_k25

i saw many saying that ' Maan is God' and ' Maan is not God ' ..'he is not 'the perfect' ..he is just human'
but i say...he is both God and is not Perfect...u all can ask how??

he has more of divinity in his character and actions and his beliefs rather than in the status tag others give him...which makes him more divine n god like..he is not god..but he more divine for which he is compared to a god.

he is not perfect...yes he is not...but..thats what makes him "the perfect"...he is sooo immperfectly perfect...
he is called perfect because he is not perfect n he knows he has his flaws...he thinks he is correct and some wrong...but he doesnt think that he alone is correct and the rest of the world is wrong...
there is a slight difference in there..." him thinking that him being correct " and "him thinking that him alone being correct "
thats y he values others judgement too..and thats wat makes him soo immperfectly "perfect"


yoo..did i make any sense to u guys..or did i confuse u all more?😆