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Posted: 14 years ago
#41
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GEET
Geet Hui Sabse Paryaa
Maan bana usska Sayaa
Badal woh duniya ka Reet
Aur woh hogiya Maaneett


Chuha to Sherni
Adversity is our true karmabhumi (proving ground). How we react to abject failure defines us. Geet faced adversity at every step of this story. What makes Geet a sherni not chuha is her reaction to it. She is human. She cries. She cribs to Babaji. But, then proceeds to try and solve the problems herself. She uses her brains and is innovative. Despite the loss of her "innocence", she has faith in humanity and loves with her whole heart. That is true COURAGE.

Addition to Pyaar ki Nishaani
Gith's seduction tips that nearly made Maan short circuit

Wheat from Chaff
Episode had "it"! Connectivity! Flow! Story finally on the Go! All elements were in harmony. Only thing barring a perfect score is the camera angle of the strip. For that Editors deserve a roundhouse kick. 😡

Edited by Malihaluvmyself - 14 years ago
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Geet - a gal who is 18...was in her second year of BA in HP.... was convinced into a marriage with an NRI guy and started dreaming bout life in Canada with him.... The fake marraige and pregnancy turned her life upside down...and the gal who was the pie of her father's eye suddenly became parayi from her family as she wasnt willing to have an abortion.... though the marriage was fake, she wanted to keep her baby .... she fought with her family to stay alive...to keep her baby alive... was ready to be an unwed single mother....
To survive she came to delhi in search of some details about the guy who duped her.... but ended up with a job as a secretary and thus her journey in Delhi began....
Slowly ans steadily Geet the Gal from HP who dared not to raise her voice infront of her grandfather, cousin brother or anyother male in the family, changed to become a confident gal...
Geet today
1. Is Confident
2. Has self respect
3. Believes in herself
4. Believes in Love
5. Loves her man
6. Loves her life
7. Trusts her man
8. Understands her man
9. is willing to do anything for him
10. is a Jealous and possesive lover
11. is a fighter
12. is emotional
13. is naive
14. Still believes in humanity
15. Believes in god and destiny
16. Is still a 18 yr old
17. Enjoys small things in life...small things bring joy to her....
18. Is a traditional Indian Gal at heart
19. bubbly
20. sensitive
what i wud like her to be in the new year.... well i actually like her the way she is... he stupidity, innocence, naiveness n good heart make her unique...but yes i want her to realise that with being Mrs Maan Singh Khurana she will hv a status and power and she shud recougnise it and make proper use of it... she shud look forward and coax maan into letting her complete education...she needs to be fully qualified and independent...
She needs to become more responsible and matured but not lose her joyful nature...she needs to change maan and make him more fun loving like her.... but not change him infront of others....
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Symbolism is a tool that has been in literature for hundreds of years to give a hidden deeper meaning than the words alone can convey to the reader. It can be a beautiful and powerful technique when used and can enhance the enjoyment of the reader if used properly. Is symbolism a technique the writers of Geet are employing or are the viewer's just envisioning things that aren't really there, that is today's topic of discussion.

When we watch the show, we start analyzing everything in the scenes and some see hidden deeper messages that reinforce and support the characterization and emotions in the story, thereby, taking the scene to a higher level making it seem even better than it is. Sometimes the complex and intricate symbolism I hear being discussed makes me wonder do the writers actually go into that depth and details when they are writing these scenes or is this just our love for the show and Maaneet making us see these things. If the writers can conjure up a 18 year old sister out of thin air without having any foundations laid for her entry and then don't bother to give us a backtrack, are those writers then really paying that much attention to the scenes and placing hidden symbolisation in them. Unless we know for definite that these symbols are being intentionally placed in the show, it is not just conjecture on our part? How do we even know we are interpreting the symbolism correctly and not missing out on symbols? I'm no expert on symbolism, when there is a scene at night, the reason I think the moon is there is because the moon is in the sky at night time, nothing else. So let's discuss some of the symbolism that is used in the show.

1. Taveez
So I have heard a lot of how this metal little box is responsible for keeping Maan and Geet together and has been giving them a helping hand to get their happy ending. Many think as long as MSK has the taveez nothing can happen to Maaneet. So I have decided we all need to go back to where this journey with the taveez started and see whether it deserves all this praise and accolades we give it in the show.

Now truthfully, does anyone actually remember this scene properly other than that famous line aap ka humsafar aaj hi aap ki zindagi ' and the taveez being given to Geet?

I didn't myself the actual details until I re-watched this scene recently. Tota Ram (a green bird) is responsible for predicting the Geet Maan milan at the mela 😲😆

How many of you remember that?😛 Tota Ram comes out his cage flips over the top three cards and voila your future is predicted 😆 Will all the devils, please form an orderly queue to have your future predicted by the amazing Tota Ram. Now, no shoving in the back there, I know you are all eager to see Tota Ram, but he will answer everyone's questions, poor bird doesn't have much to do nowadays, the mela session is over as it is winter 😆 so don't worry you will all get a free prediction, think of it as my new year's gift to you 🤣

There are many things wrong with this picture first of all birds are not psychic, never have been and never will be. Second of all tarot cards are a load of rubbish and not worthy of the money they are printed on. Plus I thought in tarot card readings, the person who the prediction was for was meant to choose the cards not a bird, so they didn't even do the reading properly to begin with. If the reading isn't performed properly, all predictions are null and void, HAAN 😛

So some random fortune teller says some clich lines about humsafar coming into your life today and how god's blessings will be with you if you make him wear this taveez. Now if this really happened to you how many of you would believe this guy? I hope no one is seriously gonna say yes, or it's off to in Shomu's van to the crazy house for you 😆 I know the first thing that springs to my mind when I think of a fortune teller at a mela, fun fair or just fortune tellers in general, scam artists. You might go visit their booth, just for laugh but you would take it all with a pinch of salt. He probably saw a young girl and thought what would she love to hear from me and hence he spinned her some lines on her true love coming into her life that day. Dolly tells him that Geet's humsafar has already arrived and he tells her to give him the taveez then. Shouldn't he have seen that her humsafar hadn't entered into her life yet if he really had a gift. A scam artist, sorry I mean a fortune teller, gives you a free gift, do you think it's anything more than a metal box. Would he really give such a powerful thing away for free if it really had the capacity to do all the things some of us think it is doing. No way, obviously he wouldn't. The man is trying to make a living by telling people's fortunes, he's not a rich man in disguise passing time at the mela for a laugh, so if he had something that powerful wouldn't he make some money out of it?

Everything else that happens with the taveez or whatever you think is happening, is just a figment of your imagination and your desire to believe that there is something else at play as it makes for a nicer story doesn't it? What can taveez do if Maan and Geet do want to go separate pathways, it is gonna melt and transform into a pair of handcuffs and keep them locked together, there isn't even a enough metal there to make sturdy handcuffs there so that plan would fail anyway. We all saw for ourselves when Geet and Maan had their MU the taveez did not keep them together, you might have think it tried when it got stuck, but it was bound to get caught up in their clothing, the way those two were fighting like WWF wrestlers do in a Friday night smackdown 😆 It's just a metal box at the end of the day stop trying to make into something it's not, Geet can get her duputta tangled in a plant pots all the time 😆 so it comes as no surprise to me got the taveez tangled in MSK's hospital room door handle. It wasn't God, trying to tell her MSK is there in that room, don't go, it's just Geet Handa being her usual clumsy self.

2. Dupatta

Duputta is just a duputta at the end of the day, it is worn either on your head or around your neck, it does not signify her honour, her izzat or anything else. Geet does not even wear her dupatta properly half the time, she just scrunches it up around her neck, so it ends up covering nothing so what does that mean, she doesn't care about her izzat or it just fashion. But she makes such a fuss about not having it if MSK comes in, it's hilarious, I still remember that scene when MSK walked in on her when she was getting ready and did a ishara to him to give her dupatta and then the way she put it was, there was no difference in her having it. Geet's dupatta gets stuck on any random item they can think of and MSK helps her to release so we all think this symbolises how he will save her izzat, remove all obstacles in her life but this just shows how accident prone and clumsy she is, how she doesn't look where she is going half the time, hence the Maaneet bumping sessions we get every week and MSK doesn't leave any chance to help Geet as he is bit obsessed with her if you hadn't noticed. Izzat cannot be bought how many times have we heard our elders say that, it has to be earned and duputtas don't come for free. It's just a piece of material, next we will say her salwar signfies her dignity as we never see it fall down even though it's held up by a string, showing what a fragile state Geet was in after the dev fiasco and how MSK has never messed with her salwar (we have seen hook her top buttons and dori) shows he wouldn't dare play with her dignity. Dev gifted Geet a red duputta, he takes her izzat away so how can the duputta symbolise her izzat and isn't a red duputta symbolism of a married women, which she never was. There are times when Geet rips her own duputta to help MSK even when he was still like a stranger to her, why does she do this without any hesitation because it's just a duputta nothing else, cause this would mean Geet is tearing her izzat for MSK, which MSK would never allow happen.
Duputtas have been notoriously used in all Indian dramas as way of having romantic scenes, the classic example, duputta gets trapped heroine thinks the hero is responsible but it's a nail or something. Now I never heard that the duputta was symbolising the heroine's izzat in these shows even when they have had similar scenes with their lead pairs, but because Geet has had such a traumatic past in this show, we are all adding two and two together and coming up with these theories.


3. Names

Dev

The name Dev is derived from the Sanskrit word Deva which means god. Now whether you believe in god or is not the issue, as we don't have any qualm's over this Khurana sibling's existence (maybe some over whether they are true brothers or not), now who could I be hinting to, let's all take a moment to ponder this ongoing conundrum. However, I think everyone agrees that Dev is more devil like than God like.

First of all let's look at the reason Dev came into Geet's life and why he needed the money, were his intentions good, but his way of going about achieving it wrong, was he a misguided soul? No, Dev needed the money to save his own skin after creating huge debts gambling. Gambling is thought of as a sin in many religions. So we all make mistakes in our lives at some point, it's how we react to them and rectify them that shows your true character. Could he not work to earn some money to pay off his debts, like anyone else would? But instead of working hard to sort out his debts, he decides to try take a shortcut route full of lies, fraud and deceit, where an innocent girl was made to pay the price for his mistakes.

The plan itself was sickening and evil to say the least. Although the mastermind was someone else, Dev did not have any problems going along with this plan which makes him equally as guilty to begin with. The responsibility and success of the plan lay at his hands as he was the main character in this charade, if he was not comfortable with what he was doing, the plan would flop but he displayed no problems or discomfort, showing he is a man who does not have a conscious.

Geet's family were happy with the rishta as it was from Canada and he came across as a decent guy, so what was the need to make Geet fall for him. It was not like Geet's family cared whether she said yes or no to the rishta, if Daarji was happy this shaadi was happening, so why the need to such romantic gestures as showering Geet with rose petals. The plan up to this point was cruel enough, make Geet fall in love with you then marry her despite already having a wife, steal her land and jewellery and then ditch her at the airport, but this wasn't enough for him' He decides to cross all limits and boundaries of humanity and has a SR with Geet, despite knowing he is going to ditch her the next day, he couldn't control his selfish needs for one night despite being happily married. According to Indian law this SR would be classified as rape. Despite cheating on his wife, Dev should no remorse and even slapped NT when she questioned him about what he was doing. Finally, there is Meera, despite all of he has done, he still has the nerve to go for no3 in the show, he never misses a chance this one.

Naintara = star of our eyes

Star of our eyes is like saying someone is the apple of our eyes ie they are cherished and loved above others. However, Naintara is one of the loneliest characters in the whole of GHSP. To begin with she had a loving husband and was accepted by all (apart from MSK) as the daughter in law of the Khurana family. However, after making plans to mess up Geet's life, she invertedly messed up and destroyed her own life and alienated herself from everyone. Her poisoned thoughts slowly eroded and dissolved any love Dev once had for her in his heart. With Dev having deserted her and moved with Meera, she drafted in PQ to help her in battle to get revenge, however, as soon as PQ discovered the truth NT was alone again. Even Sasha and Tasha ditched her seeing what depths she was willing to sink to. Dev although not deservedly seems to have found someone who can overlook his past, whilst NT all on her lonesome, until the recent entry of her bro. Arjun will leave her side too once he knows the actual truth just like PQ did, it's just a matter of time and NT will be left with no one in the world to call her own once again.

Brij

His name was throwing up lots of different meanings on google so I have decided to discuss something else related to this character, his famous red tilak. The tilak is applied at the point which symbolises where your third eye/spiritual eye would be. The spiritual eye and its opening is linked to spiritual enlightenment and mediation. I don't think Brij does yoga and mediates, he just doesn't take me as the type. As for him having reached spiritual enlightenment... err I don't think soo unless go on murdering spree is a new way of cleansing the mind and soul.

Arjun

Arjun means white. White is synonymous with being the colour of the side of good, the hero's colour but Arjun hasn't come to be a hero, sorry NES. Right now Arjun is a very dark and dangerous character, who wants to get revenge for what he thinks his sister has gone through. Arjuna from the Mahabarat was famous for never failing to hit the target and being undefeatable. But will Arjun really bring down MSK and keep him there, obviously not as we can't have evil triumph over good, what kind of message would this send out, so his aim is going to falter at some point and miss the target and that is when MSK will rise again. How far will Arjun go to get his revenge, we will have to wait and see.

Anwesha

Anwesha does not mean non-existent, therefore it is not symbolic of her character, case closed. This was by far the easiest part of this theme 🤣🤣🤣

Manisha

Means sharp intellect, genius and sagacity. I'm not going to even bother to explain this one, PM me if you need help, but don't expect a reply 🤣🤣🤣

4. Celestial bodies

As if we don't get enough gazing into each other's eyes, we now get constant moon and star gazing. These two are going to have really high optician bills in the future. Maan and his constant wooing under the moon, where do I begin with this one. I think I have cracked this and it answers a few other questions that have been bothering the devils for ages, ps it's nothing to do with symbolization. We have been wondering about MSK's parents for a while well I think the CVs are trying to enlighten us with MSK's past with these moon scenes as MSK is really half human and half werewolf. I don't know who was the werewolf was but I think it was his mum and when Mr Khurana senior found out her secret he went and re-married. This is the reason why no one mentions Maan's parents and why MSK really hates women as his mum made him half werewolf. This also explains why MSK was not very good at things like showing human emotions especially in the beginning and his stalkers skills he has heighted sense of smell which helps him locate Geet easily. Geet seems to have tamed his inner wolf with her love but it still comes out and now again. So what happens to this love struck half were-wolf when there is a full moon, of which they are absurdly high amount of in GHSP. It is kinda similar to how a true werewolf would be affected, the gravitational pull of the full moon affects the tides and as the brain contains a high % of water, the full moon messes up with the werewolf's mind making them go mad which causes their savage side to come forth. With MSK the full moon, messes up his head making him dangerously diabetic coma inducing level sick with his romantic talks or say crazy absurd things like stars are giving salaami to his and Geet's rishta.

Speaking of stars that brings us on to the very common occurrence of shooting stars in GHSP whenever Maan and Geet are around. Shooting stars are masses of debris, falling through the sky leaving a streak of light behind them on entry into the earth's atmosphere. Now that sounds very dull and boring, therefore, they have been given a makeover to symbolize something romantic and sweet, which they are not. Whatever way you try to dress it up, masses of debris will remain debris. Shooting stars are not falling because the stars are looking down and us thinking, wah what a jodi, I better take a trip to planet Earth to let them know I approve and they have my blessing otherwise they might break up knowing the stars don't approve of their rishta. Shooting stars would become an even rarer sight than they already are in that case then.

5. Colours

How many more different white outfits for Geet can they come up with, we have had the all styles from sari to salwar suit 😆 the costume designers must be getting fed up 🤣 The constant use of white and red, does is it really add anything to the scenes by using these colours, is it meant to even be adding anything to the scenes or are they only used because they are Maan and Geet's favourite colours. I personally don't care what colours they wear in scenes as it's the dialogues and the acting that should bring across the romance and passion, for example, I don't need to see them in red clothes, if they wear blue the message will still come across. The use of symbolism is supposed to add to the scene and overuse of the same colours repeatedly as symbolism blunts its effect if there was any. Whenever we see white clothes in the show, we expect good scenes but Dev entered in white clothes, so didn't that mean he was supposed to be the hero and not the baddie in the show. The episode when NT breaks the truth to Geet about Dev being married to her and where she tells her to abort the baby, is the first time in the show Geet wears white. So before the maaneet love story white was just white and didn't symbolise anything but as soon as this love story began everyone started to see white with a different perspective, isn't that interesting to notice.

So I could go on even further but it's new years day and I think I have made you suffer enough already 🤣🤣🤣

Edited by Malihaluvmyself - 14 years ago
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I would like to thank Nissar and the entire team of GSHP for entertaining us beyond our imagination. We have spent countless hours on analyzing each episode aired so far with love, anger, compassion so today I would like to talk about the symbolism which we tried to find in everything ..first I thought it is silly me but my hunger for it went ahead when Nissiar reinforced that he too has symbolism in his episodes..so what did I need more.

Let's start with the names and its symbolism

GEET- means a "song" so her character is like a song with a story and "full of life and music". She takes life a song and everyday she starts with a new beginning with humming for a better day.

Geet also means the melody…she brings melody into Maan's life.

MAAN- "Respect." He demands respect and people give him respect. He also gives respect to the humanity and womanhood. He accepted Geet with all her past baggage which is difficult for any man of our society to do but he gave respect to Geet and to mankind.


Pinky-People with this name tend to be filled with the joy of life, quite imaginative and enthusiastic.

Savetri means "relating to the sun" in Sanskrit. We have seen like sun she is the only one who has been constantly bringing light in Maan's life and be there for him everyday.

Adi-The name of a Malay warrior\'s teacher.." so Adi has been a warrior at KC fort, he is a true warrior of KC and its welfare. He is also a teacher who comes with logical solutions to many including Geet, Maan, Pinky.

Dev- "God" when he first landed on the show he acted like god for Geet, He created the image of God in front of Geet's family and Geet by showering Geet with love, respect but he was an evil in God's form.

Nainatara- means "eyes seeking for Stars"…so she always had big ambition in her life and to fulfill those goals she always went tout of her way to reach the stars!

Dupatta. –As we all know is a scarf is synonymous with feminine modesty.

Dupatta with different colors- It has been the great symbol since the first episode aired.

If you remember the April 5th episode, Geet falls from her sccoty and leaves the dupatta so that she could reach home early.

She leaves that white dupatta- which signifies her purity, innocence and we see that white dupatta in Dev's hand which symbolizes that Dev will be responsible to protect her purity and innocence.

When she reaches home Darji punishes her for not wearing dupatta, so it can be taken as a source of feminism and protest as well as a tool of imposition and oppression.

On the episode 12th April-Dev gives Geet "Red dupatta" and tells her that he dreams of making her his and tells her that wherever happens between them he'll feel that he is attached to her becoz of that red dupatta…as for it is true…because of that marriage "even fake" but Geet will always be attached to Dev because of that red dupatta in which he makes her his bride and till date Geet has some kind of attachment to Dev due to their baby.

Again on 13th April- Geet's family put that red dupatta on her forehead for the engagement ceremony…here dupatta is symbol where it was used as a tool of control by her family to marry her against her wishes.

Then the scene which none of us can forget is April 20th a Geet's blue dupatta flies away and lands on Maan's head….again the symbol is Blue Dupatta- blue color of virgin Mary- which we normally compare Geet to Virgin Mary and also symbolizes Geet's purity and also the harmony & unity about to come between Maan & Geet. That incident does bring Maan and Geet together and Maan becomes her savior.

Maan gives her dupatta back symbolizing giving her honor back!

May 14- When Geet was locked in a room by Brij..Geet tries to reach out to police and throws her yellow dupatta for her rescue , the yellow dupatta lands on Maan's head and Maan comes to find Geet. This yellow dupatta symbolizes dishonesty, cowardice which Geet's family did to Maan and yellow is also color of hope so that time Maan was the only hope for Geet.

May 18- Again Geet covers herself with yellow dupatta and visits Maan to get the information of the agent, Maan unveils her dupatta a sign of knowing Geet or unveiling her preconceived image…as she answers Maan questions regarding her self respect to Maan.

Again we see Geet wearing her white dupatta during her visit to Golden temple….again the symbol of purity and also white color is the color of angles and gods, as the color reflects that which is sacred and pure.

Then on office "hum tum ek kaamare mei band" we see for the first time Maan holding her blue dupatta with all the symbolic references already discussed for that element - that is, blue usually indicates femininity, life, purity, etc., just as water does. So Maan it is an indication that Maan will give her the new life.

Another significant moment we see Maan taking out Geet's dupatta which was stuck on thorns at the office and both of them are touching each other and Maan taking her dupatta out of those thorns……symbolizes that Maan will slowly help her to set Geet free from her misery and obstacles so now the symbol together they will fight and face the problems.

An episode where Maan wipes his face with Geet's dupatta to clean the ink symbolizes that Maan is also taking help of Geet to overcome his past and yellow dupatta signifies that Geet is the hope for Maan's happiness. Also we see how he covers Geet with the dupatta in front of Raasika which signifies that Maan will protect her honor and respect and will not let others do any harm on her reputation.

Then when Geet's tell Maan about her pregnancy and she was trying to tell him the whole story, we saw both of them mere inches away and Maan was holding her green dupatta.. so that time green dupatta signifies jealousy, envy, and misfortune.

Sept 21st- - Geet's duppatta is stuck again with Maan. This time it was the Gathabandhan where a knot is tied using the ends of the clothing worn by the bride and groom(dupatta & Maan's watch) and as in marriage the knot signifies the sacred wedlock

There are many more dupatta story but for now lets stop..

Other symbols

Taveez.....we all love it and know it!

Candles- We see repeatedly that MSK burning candles in darkness symbolizes that in the hour of darkness he will be the light of her life and wherever she will go she will take his love always. He assuring her that even the wildest storm won't be able to keep him away from her!

Roses (white & RED) combo shows the unconditional love between them.

Nov 23- Store room.....full of symbolism

That day another loop was closed by Nissar….remember that dark room where MSK was there locking himself and clinging to his past where Geet tries to enter but in this epi we saw a similar room where Geet enters again but before MSK !

Dark room slowly becomes illuminated as Geet enters and we see two statues of goddess, room full of boxes, ray of light coming from outside, two doves near each other. Then Geet slowly walks towards the boxes where lights are falling which signify how Geet was igniting all the happiness of their love !

Statues of Goddess -

Geet enters the room in between the two statues of goddess. According to Vastu decoration the two statues kept on the side of each door signify that both the sides of door are believed to protect the home dwellers from any untoward event. So it signified that Geet is protected from all evils!

Doves-

Doves are symbol of peace and love so two birds are together so Maaneet together….when chandelier falls …MSK pulls Geet and doves fly signifies that Doves are sometimes released at Christian weddings.. so they completed their vows in marriage that day.

Ray of light

Geet enters towards light and start opening the boxes...shows she has opened her past and removed her emotional and past baggage's and she opened three boxes...

First one.....her pregnancy
Second one- Fake marriage
Third one- Dev the culprit... So it shows that she opened herself and brought light to her past !

There are other symbolism but before you'll throw tomatoes I'll stop here.


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Angel : lets go baby..

The baby looks up and sees the angel protecting her till yesterday smiling down upon her and holding a hand to her .

The baby shakes her head and clings harder to the cord .

Angel: U cant stay here anymore, god wants you back with himself.

Baby: but mamma wants me too, she loves me.

Angel looked at her with a sad smile.

Angel: I know ur mamma loves u a lot but the outside world doesn't let her be happy and now its her time to be unhappy again. U must leave her and come with me.

Baby: No mamma has no one except me in her life. She will be all alone if I too leave her.

Angel: baby, mamma has papa too now.


Baby: but papa fights with mama

The baby puts on a sad face.

Angel eyes are filled with tears now. She had taken many children
away before but this one, the child for whom this girl had given up everything,
even the angel didn't have the heart to take her. But God had given her clear
orders to bring her back. The child who had been the reason for this girl of 18
to live.


Angel: papa fights with mama coz he loves her.

Baby: But papa forgets about mama when he is angry, he
hurts her too.


Angel had no answer to this. She didn't know what to say.

She usually had answer to all the questions but today she failed. For the first
time the angel had run out of words and explanations to the little one.


Angel: baby come we are getting late. I cant leave u here, mamma will be up any moment

Baby: But mamma will not be able to live without me.

Angel: baby she will learn to and u can come back to her later but not now.

The baby was baffled at this statement. If she could come back later why couldn't she stay now.


Baby: have I been a bad girl.

Angel: no baby u have always been good. U have supported ur mamma and given her strength when she was weak u have been a good child to her always.
Baby: then why should I come

Angel: baby ur mamma needs to learn to live with papa too and she thinks only about u all the time not papa.

The baby chuckles at this.

Baby: see my mamma loves me so much.

Angel : I know baby.

Baby: papa, loves me too u know that and he is happy that mamma thinks of me more than him.

Angel: papa loves u and mamma more than u know baby but..

The angel was again lost for words

Baby: I can come back later..

Angel: Yes u can..when mamma and papa call you, you can come back to them and at that time I promise I will let u be with her always.

Baby is confused what to say to this.

But baby ehsaas ( I named her that) does not wanna go with angel. She cant leave mamma all alone and go.Yes papa is there but mamma will be shattered if she goes. She is thinking of some thing to say so that he can stay back with mamma.

Baby: what will mamma do once she knows I am no more with her.

Angel knows very well that mamma will never be able to get hold of the fact that her baby left her all alone in life. Mamma had fought against the world for the baby and now baby also leaves her. Mamma will take days or even months to accept the truth.

Angel: baby papa will help her to live ahead..i promise u that..papa will be always with her..he will stand with her whenever she needs him..

Baby: papa will be with her, but mamma will not be able to take it in that I left her..i know my mamma I know her.

Angel : Baby mamma will have to live with that..I cant leave u here..not with these people the outside people do not like u and they will harm u .

Baby: I am not afraid till I have my mamma and papa with me. I know they will protect me always.

They hear a voice..its mammas.

" baby I will be ok..dont worry and don't worry u will be ok too..i know I hurt u but papa will take care of us..i know he will.."

That's the last words that mamma spoke before darkness surrounds the baby..

They hear another voice.."angel come back with the baby I cant give u any more time.."

Angel: come baby..we have to go now..

Baby: but..

Angel: u heard him we have to'I am sorry..

The baby is in tears by now..but she knows she has lost the battle..

She says: mamma I will come back, I will back whenever u call me and then I will be with u forever..i am sorry to leave u like this..but I know papa will take care of u..and mamma u love me na so take care of urself for me..i will come back soon..

With this the baby ehsaas hands over herself to the angel and the angel and baby leave..

In the world outside..the doctor says.." sorry Mr.Khurana I couldn't save the child.. but your wife is out of danger now.."





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MAAN SINGH KHURANA!!!

The carpenter's Syndrome😆


Indeed Maan singh Khutrana should ba a carpenter by profession only then can he meet success no use of running behind wodden blocks & cursing them'..

👏Features of carpenter's syndrome::👏

Mental deficiency is also common with the disorder, although some patients may have average intellectual capacity' am I not right ???

😉 Tower-shaped skull ( for hid Endless growing hairs)

😃 Additional or fused digits ( all his digits r fuded & he knows oly to run away from geet cant stand)

😳Reduced height.( reduced height of Brains' never thinks.. never never'..


Sweetness Cherished'..👏

😳The sweet love is Amazing power of nature'..😳

😆Love changes'..😆

😉Aspergers Syndrome '😕 Carpenter's syndrome ' Sopite SYNdrome

Asperger's Syndrome often prefer their own company. ( ANGRY YOUNG MAAN)😡

They are not interested in fashions, trends and celebrities and may seem to live in their own private world.( MAAN SINGH KHURANA WAHI KARTHA HAI JO USI ACCHA LAGE )😳

Any interaction with peers may be one-sided as they tend to talk exclusively about their interests and do not ask any questions.( GEET CHUP BILKUL CHUP, JAB BOSS ORDERS DE RAHA HAI JUS LISTEN)🤢

Social responses are often inappropriate.( FILE KHARAB KARDI PHIR BHI Masti KE MOOD MAI )🥱

The sopite syndrome is a neurological disorder that relates symptoms of fatigue, drowsiness, and mood changes to prolonged periods of motion & disinclination for work''..👏

Kc will soon go in for auction !!!



DEV SINGH KHURANA!!

PETRIFIED MAN DEV :👏

tell me does any of his single CEll also attempt to do any work ?

he stands petrifeid walks petrified & ythinks PETrified!!! 🤢



VICKY SINGH KHURANA!!

ANWESHA SINGH KHURANA!!

SAVITHRI DEVII!!!! Dadi is the most in CONsistent character is the whole series ??

Y does she do a summersault of her ?? plzz dadima turn ur age' ACT urself ?



the good dadi in search of bahu rani!!!

fixing up bahu rani as secretary'.

trying hard to make maan or geet CoNfess the love story!!

accepting geet on dinner date!!

forcing for Engagement??

chucking geet out ??

begging Geet to come back to maan's life?

&&& NOW ? staring wen she is back??

Tell me u have AD( ALzehiemer's Disease)!!! Then ll shut ma mouth & take back these words'.


MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS dadi.......😆

A person with MS can suffer almost any neurological symptom or sign.. ll jus write very shOTRt....
Uhthoffs phenomenon, an exacerbation of extant symptoms due to an exposure to higher than usual ambient temperatures...

so afTER seeing HAWT haWT maan doing TAI chii stuff her temperature RISes & her underlying CONditions flares up!!!

SHE back to the MId point of her pendulum : GEET u R right!!!

&&& one more impoRTANT FEAture of this DIsease is tat the patient has character modification towards FRIENDliness & SWeet Behaviour :

so u see this ezplains herattitude towards NT & DEV...... 😭


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GEET HANDACRYING BABY SYNDROME 😭
  • cry for 30-40 minutes or more at a time
  • cry more in the afternoon and evening
  • look like they are in pain when they cry

Expect there to be times when your baby can't stop crying, no matter what you do.


tell me wen GEet does not CRy ???


gets up... morning : cries in joy!!😭


goes to office : looking at maan she cries...😭


holds her tummy " past memories she cries..😭


maan hugs her : she cries..😭


dadi tells somethings :she cries...😭


maan hold DP : she blushes & cries...😭


she sees the ring & taveez : & again she cries....😭


looks at dev NT : cries of anger.... 😭


goes to bed : she cries.... 😭


cries wen she ia awke * asleep too ... round the CLOck!!! 😭





NAINTARA RATHORE

EAGLES SYNDROME😈

Eagle syndrome has been linked with aging ( NT is growning olDEr) and trauma ( the POISONLESS POISON) and is more common in females than males. The condition may present symptoms of chronic dull pain, or sharp pains when swallowing, stretching the tongue, or turning the head.

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It is emotions that bind the audience to any story. Some characters incite hate and others love. In Geet my favourite character is BABY. She does not exist as yet, but the baby is the character that has driven the story forward to date. She became Geet's impetus to live, the purpose that forced Geet to leave HP, and got her to build a life for herself in Delhi. It is evidence of the strength of Maan's love for Geet.

Geet's story truly started the day she knew she was with child. How? We saw Geet was dumped by Dev at the airport. She was not ready to move ahead. Her only aim was to go back to him and prove to the world that he was innocent. She wanted him back, but the day she came to know that she was carrying a child her search became more comprehensive and detailed.

She tried to match everything she knew. It was then that she remembered Dev and his family were living in a Guest house and it was the first time it struck her that she could get their number from the Guest House. So, she did and called up Canada to tell about the Baby she was carrying though they did not care.

When her family learnt about it, they wanted her abort the child, but she firmly refused. It was the first time she truly fought her family. Before when it was just Dev, she had parted with her suhaag ki nishaanis. But, the baby she could never part with. When the mid-wife refused to cooperate with their forced abortion attempt and they found no other way her own grandfather and cousin brother decided to kill her.

Maan saved her from Brij and unknowingly became the baby's saviour too. Together the 2 changed the direction of Geet's life – became her destiny. They gave her courage to fight for justice against her family and break the norms of society by becoming a single mother.

It was Baby who gave Geet courage to move into an unknown world, a world very different from the one where she had grown up, a world whose harsh realities and rules she was not aware off, a world where she didn't know whether the people support her or be equally against her. Baby – The Silent Character Who Has Propelled this Story
It is emotions that bind the audience to any story. Some characters incite hate and others love. In Geet my favourite character is BABY. She does not exist as yet, but the baby is the character that has driven the story forward to date. She became Geet's impetus to live, the purpose that forced Geet to leave HP, and got her to build a life for herself in Delhi. It is evidence of the strength of Maan's love for Geet.

Geet's story truly started the day she knew she was with child. How? We saw Geet was dumped by Dev at the airport. She was not ready to move ahead. Her only aim was to go back to him and prove to the world that he was innocent. She wanted him back, but the day she came to know that she was carrying a child her search became more comprehensive and detailed.

She tried to match everything she knew. It was then that she remembered Dev and his family were living in a Guest house and it was the first time it struck her that she could get their number from the Guest House. So, she did and called up Canada to tell about the Baby she was carrying though they did not care.

When her family learnt about it, they wanted her abort the child, but she firmly refused. It was the first time she truly fought her family. Before when it was just Dev, she had parted with her suhaag ki nishaanis. But, the baby she could never part with. When the mid-wife refused to cooperate with their forced abortion attempt and they found no other way her own grandfather and cousin brother decided to kill her.

Maan saved her from Brij and unknowingly became the baby's saviour too. Together the 2 changed the direction of Geet's life – became her destiny. They gave her courage to fight for justice against her family and break the norms of society by becoming a single mother. It was Baby who gave Geet courage to move into an unknown world, a world very different from the one where she had grown up, a world whose harsh realities and rules she was not aware off, a world where she didn't know whether the people support her or be equally against her.

In Delhi, Geet accepted Maan's job not for herself but, for baby. As the story progressed the baby's gave her courage to stand on her own, to fight the taunts of people like Sasha because she knew someday the world would try to defame her because of the baby.

The baby not only united Maan and Geet, but provided the biggest tests of their relationship to date. When Maan told her that what mattered most to him was Vishwas and Bharosa, Geet realized that he must know about her baby before there relationship got deeper. It was the biggest shock and test of Maan's life. He faltered when she first told him "Mein Pregnant Hu", but did not let her go when he learnt the whole story and when she later explained her fears about her "pavitra" and her "responsibility". He assured her about her purity and embraced her responsibility. Made it his own from that day forward. Took her to the hospital for her first check up.

Baby gave her courage to fight Sasha, Dev and NT when Maan could not be by her side. When it was time for her to choose between her baby and immediate justice (with an amniocentesis) Geet chose baby. It was for Baby's sake that she once again stood up to Naintara at Pindi Queen's Party. It was NT's question about what name Geet would give baby that triggered Maan's extreme act of Khoon Bhari Mang. Most recently, it was Maan's outpouring of love for "their" baby that inspired Geet's first "I love you".

Maan's love for "their" baby moved the viewers as well as Geet. His care for her health, fussing over nausea, sensitivity over food cravings, and wholehearted unconditional love for the baby has us all enthralled with him. Conversely, while the baby continually united Maaneet, it divided DevTara. The baby is proof not only of Dev's gunah it is evidence of his disloyalty to Naintara. And from the moment she learnt of its existence, NT has lived in fear of the day Dev would learn of it. She played with fire and destroyed Geet's life, but baby's existence fissured Naintara. It brought out her feminine insecurities: (1) She was not woman enough to hold her man's attention and (2) not fertile enough to bear a baby while Geet got pregnant right away. The emotional cracks overtime became ravines. She fought with Dev over the ghost of Geet-cum-baby. Dev, on the other hand, started to lie about seeing Geet in Delhi. Their cumulative secrets and lies including her non-disclosure of the baby truth and unwillingness to face the truth eventually driving Dev into Meera's arms away from hers.

So, while the baby is yet unborn, she has continually driven the story and is an integral part of it. It is the silent character that has driven the story – no wonder the audience is so passionate about it's existence.

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POSSIBLE PLOTS
There are a ton of baby scenes in the Baby + Maneet = Romance + Comedy

Here are some Dramatic Plots with and without Baby:

1. The most potential story line could be RETURN OF DEV IN GREY not SAINT. The story can be progressed very well if we could see that DEV wants the child or is trying to get his hands on the child after all the child is the "heir" to all the KHURANA empire and the first child of the family doesn't hold a special place for all. Dev could even use the law here as he is the biological father. There could then be a CLASH OF THE TITANS and brothers. Maan would never let the child go away from him coz its his and GEET happiness and to maan all that matters is GEET's smile.

2. We could have Sameera attempt to use the baby to drive a wedge between Maaneet if she every enters the story. I.E. make Geet feel unattractive an unworthy of Maan. Make Maan doubt whether he will be a good father given his own miserable childhood.

3. If Dev dies and Vicky enters the story. The next story line that could make people connect with the story emotionally is the digging up of the KHURANA secrets. The writers explain to us who is VICKY and why does pammi call Maan "chote saab ji.." ' this could lead to that Maan is not the legal heir and they have to move out. But, the baby via Dev may still be the "true" Khurana heir. So, there could be a battle between Maaneet and Vicky over baby's right to the Khurana empire with Maaneet being its custodian till the baby is an adult.

4. Alternately, if Maan is not a "true" Khurana heir, but the baby is. Then NT might want to fight for its custody and that of the Khurana empire particularly if Dev dies.

5. The court room here can refer here to The justice that GEET seeks and since now the child, once present, can prove that dev is the Biological father of the child and not only will they seek justice but the world points fingers at them and now they have to face it together.
If the baby doesn't happen'seedhe bhasha mein if The writers decide on a Miscarriage now some tracks that could be developed:

1. Geets emotional breakdown after the baby is lost. Yes that's the most promising track. Yes maan has lost a child too but he keeps a straight face in front of her coz he needs to get her out of her trance. Maans small gestures like taking her for walks or taking her to a dhabba and even missing a meeting coz she needs him..like dadi calls and tells him that she hasn't eaten nything and maan hurries out of office leaving a meeting behind..Yes in this situation makeher weak and make him as her pillar of strength.

2. Once geet has lost her baby her urge to get Justice increases. Till day she was quiet coz she wanted baby to be safe but now she has lost everything she valued so lets see her fighting for Justice against Dev..and pls Dev should be evil here not saint..he proves her wrong, he accuses her of making him spend a night with her without a relationship and here again Geets parents could stand a role..make them stand with their daughter for justice or against for family's "Izzat".

3. The khurana secrets once reavled could lead to both moving out and since baby is not here let us see GEET becoming his strength and supporting him even after loosing her baby.

4. Geet has lost her baby but her spirit of helping others, so their babies does die She decides to built a rehabilitation centre for women who have been through same traumatic past.

5. Geet working on political projects where she finds herself engrossed in women who have experience fraudulent marriages and Maan is J or helps her with it. Or how about maan and GEET visiting places finding proof and people to help them and making their lives better. No one would come in the open on their own this would require hard work from team actors and even audience and then we can live the Theme of the show too..and truly everyone would like to name their daughter GEET as shown in the first promo..for she not only fights for herself and other JUSTICE against the odds.

With this I sign off. Contribute your ideas for the story and baby pls.

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Practical Implications of having a baby in the track

Information and Broadcasting minister Ambika Soni in 2009 said, "As long as health and education concerns are kept in mind, it's okay for kids to put make up on."

Preface
1. Legal grounds
2. Ethical grounds
3. Logistics
4. Summation


Preface


While one is interested in seeing the progress of the baby track, one should also take into consideration some factors.

I am gonna make this as sweet and short as possible.


Legal Grounds


The Child is defined as a person in the 0 to 18 years age group.

Hiring or working with babies, child artistes is covered under Indian Laws by The Child Labor (Prohibition and Regulation) Act, 1986 that stipulates certain measures to stop exploitation of child workers. [Link: Act http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/childlabouract/childlabouract.htm]

Under the provisions of the Act, some of the salient points are as follows:

7. HOURS AND PERIOD OF WORK. - (1) No child shall be required or permitted to work in any establishment in excess of such number of hours, as may be prescribed for such establishment or class of establishments.

(2) The period of work on each day shall be so fixed that no period shall exceed three hours and that no child shall work for more than three hours before he has had an interval for rest for at least one hour.

(3) The period of work of a child shall be so arranged that inclusive of his interval for rest, under sub-section (2), it shall not be spread over more than six hours, including the time spent in waiting for work on any day.

(4) No child shall be permitted or required to work between 7 p.m. and 8 a.m.

(5) No child shall be required or permitted to work overtime.

(6) No child shall be required or permitted to work in, any establishment on any day on which he has already been working in another establishment.

The National Commission for Protection of Child Rights (NCPCR) was set up in March 2007 under the Commission for Protection of Child Rights Act, 2005, an Act of Parliament (December 2005) and it oversees that all guidelines as enshrined in the Constitution of India and also the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child are met.

One important aspect is that there are a bunch of Child Rights groups such as Shakti Vahini etc., that are in the mix who are potential child right's upholders.

8. WEEKLY HOLIDAYS. - Every child employed in an establishment shall be allowed in each week, a holiday of one whole day, which day shall be specified by the occupier in a notice permanently exhibited in a conspicuous place in the establishment and the day so specified shall not be altered by the occupier more than once in three months.

13. HEALTH AND SAFETY. - (1) The appropriate Government may, by notification in the official Gazette, make rules for the health and safety of the children employed or permitted to work in any establishment or class of establishments.

(2) Without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing provisions, the said rules may provide for all or any of the following matters, namely : (a) cleanliness in the place of work and its freedom from nuisance;

(b) disposal of wastes and effluents;

(c) ventilation and temperature;

(d) dust and fume;

(e) artificial humidification;

(f) lighting;

(g) drinking water;

(h) latrine and urinals;

(i) spittoons;

(j) fencing of machinery;

(k) work at or near machinery in motion;

(l) employment of children on dangerous machines;

(m) instructions, training and supervision in relation to employment of children on dangerous machines;

(n) device for cutting off power;

(o) self-acting machines;

(p) easing of new machinery;

(q) floor, stairs and means of access;

(r) pits, sumps, openings in floors, etc.;

(s) excessive weights;

(t) protection of eyes;

(u) explosive or inflammable dust, gas, etc.;

(v) precautions in case of fire;

(w) maintenance of buildings; and

(x) safety of buildings and machinery.


Ethical Grounds

Taking these legal grounds into consideration, one must also take into consideration the ethics of hiring a baby of a few days old or few weeks old or few months old to face the heat, dust, and the impracticality of the current sets anywhere in Mumbai or surrounding areas with the insane viral diseases on the prowl that are not sparing even much older people.


Logistics

Is it possible to shoot with one baby and if the baby falls sick what would they do?

Is it possible to have twin babies so that if one goes sick they can shoot with the other?

They need to hire different babies of different ages to show progression of the baby track or will they continue the track with the same baby?

Nannies/parents present on the sets for babies, would it not put some strictures on working?

How fast paced or even paced will their storyline be?

How are they going to ensure continuity?


Summation

The article 32 of the UN speaks about child labor as follows-"States parties recognize the right of the child to be protected from economic exploitation and from performing any work that is likely to be hazardous or to interfere with the child's education, or to be harmful to the child's health or physical, mental, spiritual, moral or social development."

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Addendum Errata:

1- Is it possible for PH/Channel to book a good, well-lit, safe, in healthy locales, better maintained flat and film the baby track in that flat with a limited crew?

2. Is it possible for the PH/Channel to shoot the baby track at the baby's original home with just the lead actors and a limited technical crew and the Director/Cinematographer going there and shooting it with just a hand held or any of the newer camera equipment?

3. Is it possible for the PH/Channel to hire a doctor/nurse/nanny for the period they want to shoot a baby track? Will that be feasible?

4. How are they gonna ensure maximum safety?

5. Is it possible for the creatives to weave a story and plot along the lines mentioned keeping the constraints in mind without doing grave indignity to the story?

6. Or show a small or marginal leap so as to cast an older toddler or baby

7. Most important points and suggestions: The best option to my mind is to shoot with just the director, the lead pair, the cinematographer at the baby's house with her/his parents present and not take her/him away from his/her natural habitat (this point is an extension on point 2)

8. They can have a second level crew directing the baby and capturing moments of the baby whenever the baby is awake and in good cheer. If I wanted a baby track, as a director, I would tag one second line cinematographer from my technicians with a handheld, stalk the baby for a few days and capture all the essential moments and use SFX (Special Effects) and merge scenes of Maneet that are shot with a fake baby/fake-to-look-like-a-real-baby (doll) - it can be done and it has been done before.

Shoot some scenes with the baby and the lead pair and recycle them at intervals by interspersing with the SFX edited scenes.

There are workarounds as I mentioned in Points 1, 2, 3, 7, 8 so let's look at the bright side too.

[End of Theme]


Edited by Malihaluvmyself - 14 years ago

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