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Posted: 14 years ago

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On the episode

Maan tells Annie the whole story 👍🏼. Does it in style with the hide and seek game - not realistic, but stylish and entertaining. 😆
Annies reaction was not sufficient, from the writing as well as acting point of view. From the writing point of view, there should have been more disbelief. It wasn't a bed-time story. It was something so disturbing and disgusting about your brother. Instead it seemed more like "oh! I didn't know my bhabhi doesn't like Italian good. I should take her to an Indian restaurant instead." Shock and disbelief was not there to sufficient extent in the writing. And whatever little of these the writing did have, acting missed it. Reminded me of the lack of acting on Dev's part when he came to know that Geet is pregnant with his child. They should have used some black & white effect and background music here to make up for the (lack of) acting.
Bhangra party - okay. Cinematic liberty. Can't say anything more about it.
Geet-Arjun-MSK-Dadi: I liked how she calmly asked MSK for the reason behind his decision. And not comfortable about her giving Arjun a chance. It is too big a chance. Why bother? It's not that Arjun is in a dire need of this contract. That's what I would think. But I guess whatever she did goes with her character. Now she better make up to MSK for this in tomorrow's episode.
Mystery of Arjun's character: The mystery is good, but I think it's high time they started showing something about what he is up to. Maintaining complete opacity there may mean audience will get bored. Some layers have to start unfolding.

Overall story moved forward. So, that's a good thing.

Not related to the episode, but I think they should start showing more positive promos. The latest promo seems to indicate that Arjun will have an upper hand. Doesn't send good vibes. Promo should indicate that Arjun will try, but MSK will have the upper hand. That's what Star One audience will like (I guess I am one of the typical Star One viewers - want positivity and entertainment at the end of the day; not headache).

On Maan Singh Khurana

After reading the opening post of this den (that too only in parts) I am truly scared of Maan Singh Khurana 😆. Total mental case.

But that aside, he has never been my dream man. Analysis that I had written in the den for the pool-party-thappad episode is what defines Maan Singh Khurana as he is today for me. He is intelligent, handsome, smart and many other things. But there is an animal in him, which makes him the person in whose Geet and only Geet can fit.

So, before delving further into him, I am pasting from the analysis after pool-party-thappad episode.

In real life, I would not come within ten miles of someone like Maan Singh Khurana. This is how I feel from the very beginning. In real life such people are called jerks. Not hot or dreamy 😊 If such a man had indeed saved my life like he saved Geet's, I would make sure even further that I do not come within ten miles of this person. Because it would be difficult for my self respect to not give it back to him when he acts as a jerk and a women-hater and it would be difficult for my sense of gratitude to ever show any disrespect to him after he saved my life. Geet manages to do both 😊

So, yes! If I were there in place of Geet, there would have been no story. And I can never love, or even like a man like Maan Singh Khurana. I can never get close enough to such a person to even know if there is soft and caring heart in there.

But in this story, there is Geet and there is Maan. Maan who would have irritated the feminist in me to no ends (giving random lectures on "tum auratein" to a stranger woman??), inspired Geet to become strong. I am empowered enough that I would not have tolerated a boss like MSK even for a day. But Geet hung around long enough to fall for this man (she had the compulsion to retain the job, accepted her compulsion and tolerated him).

The animal is MSK would make me cringe, because I anyway would have no respect for him. He could have done nothing for my development as an individual. But sometimes knowingly, sometime unknowingly, he has done so much for Geet's development, that the animal is him can not make her hate him. The animal in him hurts Geet not so much out of a pity for herself, but out of a concern for him.

I could never have been the one to tame the animal in him, because I could never have accepted him. But Geet accepts him and is willing to tame the animal in him. I would never have cared to look at the hurt a man like MSK carries, much less try to heal him. But Geet has the softness, the patience, the willingness and the heart to do it.

That's why they are meant for each other. And I love the characters, even though I do not identify with them. I love the characterization of the animal in MSK, while I continue to hold my hatred for such an animal.

Does it mean that it is okay for MSK to be an animal with Geet. No, its not. Even Geet did not accept it. That's the good thing. She gave it back with the slap. So, I don't think any wrong message is going out there for the society. Showing a criminal in a show does not mean his acts is being condoned. Showing the animal in MSK did not mean it was being condoned. It wasn't. Otherwise the slap would not have come from Geet - a woman who loves and respects him to no end despite recognizing the animal in him. So, I am perfectly happy with the CVs here. They have shown the character without condoning it.

And since then, Geet has tamed the animal in him.

What created that animal in the first place? That remains to be seen and there is no point speculating about it here. Just hope that CVs give strong enough a story. Given other sides of his personality, it is difficult to believe that the animal is there by birth. There has to be a very strong reason for it and I hope the writers do justice there.

Now the other aspects of this man. One thing that really strikes me is that this man is demanding. He is hard on himself as well as people around him where performance and achievement is concerned. He doesn't tolerate mistakes from other people and not from himself either. To the extent that is he makes a mistake, he does not know how to handle it (remember how hard it was for him to say sorry for the first time). Part of such behaviour can be innate and part of it can be due to upbringing. Somewhere I identify with this aspect of his personality because I, myself, am like that. I can't tolerate stupidity in people around me, especially people working under me. And I am hard on myself too. If I go wrong, I go bonkers. I drown in guilt so much that I can hardly figure out what to do to salvage the situation.

The same thing extends to his personal life. He is hard on himself and others in relationships too. He can't stand someone going wrong, whether its his brother or his GF (Sameera?). But in case of relationships, its not just about making a mistake and getting punished. He punishes people wherever he can (Dev for gambling debts), but this leaves a scar on him too. He doesn't know how to deal with them - so he just escapes and goes in a cell. Extending the same logic, when he goes wrong, he expects others to be hard on him too. When Geet realized that she had made a mistake in understanding MSK and he had never bailed Dev out, she knew she had made a huge mistake. After the pool party fiasco MSK knew he had made a huge mistake in how he treated Geet. But while Geet still can go and talk about it, MSK can't. He will just beat himself up. He wouldn't even be satisfied by asking for punishment from the other person. He will punish himself and still not know how to deal with it.

That's MSK for us. Hard on himself and hard on others. Why? Again we do not know. As I mentioned earlier, part of this can be in the innate (it is in me). Part of it can be about upbringing - demanding parents/father?

Then there is another aspect. Beneath all this, he is really soft. He is hungry for love and care. He is scared of his needs, but the needs are there. To love and to be loved. And when these needs are fulfilled, he hogs it. He becomes the most passionate, most caring, most loving person you can ever meet. But this part of him is difficult to reach. Because to reach here you have to tame the animal and break through his hardness. Not many can reach here. His family has been there since the beginning - at least Dadi Ma (and supposedly the NES 😃 ). But from elsewhere, only Geet could break through.

That's MSK for us too.

Phew - this became too incoherent. But can't spend more time now. So, this will have to do.

Edited by sharmishtha01 - 14 years ago

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shreya_l

@shreya_l

Dazzler

Posted: 14 years ago

#12

Theme of the Den - Maan Singh Khurana

Sini loved your extensive case study... in real life if we come across such a person ..the first reaction might be to run away...😆🤣Finding him charming and intriguing is a bit hard to swallow...But in fiction he is mindblowing😉😆🤣

Maan Singh Khurana, naam hai jaana pechana.
Mile isse hum pehli baar, HP ki galiyon mein yaar.
Bachayi isne ek anjaan ladaki ki jaan,
Hum sochein kaun hai yeh gabroo jawaan.
Baaton se laga voh tedha, gusse ke bhara kaduva karela.
Par chupi thi acchayi, jo humein pasand aayi.
Sachi thi uski sab batein, anjaan ladaki ko seekh de jati...
Phir hua uska is ladaki se samana, Geet Handa naam hai usne jaana.
Geet ki jameen thi usne khareedi, dhokhe se jo Geet se thi cheeni.
Voh tha anjaan aur Geet pareshaan,
Is kashmakash mein aaye ek duje ke kaam.
Jaana ek duje ko kuch aur, gussail, badtameez, stree dveshi aur jhagdoo...
Apni baat jo tha humesha manvata, dikha yeh akela kuch na haath aata.
Ek baar phir bachayi jaan, Geet kyun hui apne parivaar ka shikaar.
Voh tha isse anjaan, seekh phir thi ek baar
Purani janjeerein tod gira do dewaar.

Phir mile hum is shaqs se, shahari babu ke vesh mein.
Yeh nikala ek udhyogpati, aakarshak, dhanvaan...
Par kuch aadatein nahin badalti.
Apne jeevan ko bas dhakel raha tha voh, bas yun hi din kaat raha tha voh.
Geet aayi aur phir shuru hui ladai,
Dhak -dhak se bana dhust danav, sadu boss bhi to tha manav
Hulchul yun kuch dil mein hui, samajh na paya kya thi yeh khalbali.
Kayi jhagdon, ulajhano aur sacchayi ke baad,
Pyaar mohhabat ki hui hai baat, sang jeevan bhar saath rehne ke saath.
Aage dekhen kya rukh legi jindagi, dukh ho ya khushi sang sehni hogi.

Episode Analysis

Maan aaye Anvesha paas,
Karni thi Geet ke vishay mein baatein khaas.
Geet ne aapko bhi bhadkaya, pehle Dev bhai ko nikala.
Ab mujhe nikalvane ka samay hai aaya.
Maaf karna mujhe Maan bhai,
Nahin dekhni aapki shaadi aur apni bidaayi.
Maan ne dhoondha tareeka advitiya,
Khelein chupa chupi, khojana tum mujhe.
Dekhtein hain kya tum dhoondh pati, aankhon par baandh patti.
Girne se bachaya Anvesha ko, saaf dikhayi deta sab...
Poocha sawaal jiska jawaab tha vishaas,
Phir bataya kaise Dev ne todi Geet ki har aas.
Geet par beeti sun Anvesha hai hairaan,
Maafi use maangni hogi Geet par kyun dhaye maine yeh ilzaam.
Maan ne sujhaya hai ek tareeka, jo Anvesha ko bhi hai theek laga.

Geet baithi gumgeen, aaya hai ek ajnabee.
Pooche kyun ho tum udaas,
Pyaare se chehre par lagati udaasi nahi kuch khaas.
Baat ko ghuma kar khud se karo mat door,
Batao dil ki baat aur khush ho jao huzoor.
Rishton aur bhavanao ki kare voh baat,
Geet ko samjhaye nikaal do dil ka gubar.
Ajnabee ko batane se nahin koi nuksaan,
Yun kehta hai voh hoton par laa muskaan.
Geet sunaye apna haal, jee na payegi choota jo humsafar ka saath.
Dar par apne paao jeet, jo beeta use bhool jao Geet.
Dat kar karo dukhon sa samana, par har din nahin hota ek samana.
Rituyen bhi hoti hain chaar, jindagi vahi nahin dikhati baar baar.
Din aur ujale ka dilake ehsaas,
Pyaar nibhao kehta hai de kar poorna vishvaas.
Geet ne kiya shukriya ada, poochti hai kaise madad karoon yeh batao.
Anvesha ka liya naam, Geet kahe bulati hoon main use.

Anvesha aur Geet mein phir dosti bahaal,
Geet ki ban gayi hai voh behen, mita sab malaal.
Maan bhai ka tha ye sujhaav, tumhari muskaan ke voh hain sahi haqdaar.

Dhol, tashe aur nagadon ki aawaaz, Dadi poochein Maan kya hai baat.
Itne mein dikha ajnabee, Maan janana chahein kyun hai voh yaheen.
Maan ka yeh nirnay, Arjun nahin karega taiyaari yeh hai taya.
Janati hoon aapke faisala hota hai sahi,
Kya batayenge mujhe kyun yeh baat kahi?
Geet ka hua Arjun se parichay,
Wedding planner nahin Naintara ka bhai hai yeh.
Maqsad chupa Arjun ka isme koi, Maan jaanate hain isliye an-ban hui.
Naintara ko maafi mil sakti nahin,
Jo hua mere saath main kabhi bhoolongi nahin.
Arjun nahin chahte dena koi safayi, isliye maine yeh file lautayi.

Geet nahin leti kisi ka paksh,
Par insaan pehchaanane mein kya hai voh daksh.
Uska nazariya hai sahi, galat hai Naintara, uska bhai nahin.
Soch jo hoti meri aisi vishvaas nahin main phir kar sakti,
Dev aur Maan hain alag insaan, voh hai dhokebaaz aapne bachayi meri jaan.
Mauke ki karein Dadi aur Geet umeed,
Maan hain maane, par is nirnay se hain dukhi.

Arjun ki chaturayi, abhi Dadi, Geet ko nahin nazar aayi
Maan ko anhoni ka eshaas, baar baar hota khatare ka aabhaas.
Dikhne mein to lage sahi insaan, par iske iraadon se sab anjaan.
Kahani hai rochak badi, humein intezaar ab har ghadi.

Nirnay = Decision, Gubar = Grief, Malaal = Grief, Paksh = side
Daksh = Capability, Aabhaas = Feel, Rochak = interesting

Edited by shreya_l - 14 years ago

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starlite7

@starlite7

Voyager

Posted: 14 years ago

#13

Kudos to the CVs. Today's epi progressed the storyline by leaps and bounds … no beating round the bush, no dragging of the scene…straight and to the point…whether it is Maan's convo with NE, Geet-Arjun first meeting or Geet's logic to keep Arjun as the wedding planner. An intellectually mouth watering episode…with superb acting by GC, DD and Arjun, super dialogues, execution and storyline.

The CVs seem to have completed their gestation period and r burning rubber ….yeah. We got an inkling yesterday with Maan calling Arjun a spade, joining the dots between Geet and NE as the root cause of Geet's distress.

Maannie by the pool

Maan finds NE by the pool…in tears and comes straight to point.

NE, as usual, jumps to conclusion and blurts out in a similar way she did with Geet. Maan tries to stop her but she is on a roll….self-pity….leading upto 'I hate her.'

Enuff is enuff…Maan takes the ropes in his hand and uses a unique, effective way to drive his point home.

Let's play ur childhood game of hide-n-seek. Maan's strategy is two-fold…

- first, he wants to calm her down to the point that she can think straight

- second, drive the point home in the way she can understand

What better way than to lead her on that path with something from their childhood ? Becoz more than us, Maan knows his sister…beneath that immature attitude lies a good heart and a sharp brain. Brilliant move !

He lets her lose until she is abt to fall into the pool. The dialogue that ensues is enlightening…

MSK - See u were abt to fall in

NE - No bro, I wudnt

MSK - Why?

NE - Coz u r here…with u here nothing can happen to me. I trust u more than my life.

…and then WHAM !

MSK - And this is the same trust Geet had in Dev. But Dev not only broke her trust but destroyed her life.

NE - What r u saying bro ? Dev n Geet ….

MSK - …Ki shaadi hui thi …Even tho he was married, for Geet money he falsely married her, showed her dreams n made promises. Just one day after the wedding, he ran away…and today Geet Dev ke bachche ki maa banne wali hai.

NE is dumbfounded …Honestly Nikunj should have done a better job with her expressions. She totally diluted the importance of this scene with her below par expressions.

NE - I cant believe my own bro did something like this….n without even knowing the truth, I said so many things to Geet…and she took it all in quietly without saying a word in defense. I made a huge mistake…I must ask her forgiveness.

MSK - NE just saying sorry is not enuff…I have a better idea. Who better to know Geet's frame of mind than her Maan J

Geet-Arjun – peheli mulaakaat – extremely well done

I was always curious how this first meeting wud take place between these two…and I must say I'm not disappointed.

Geet looking pensive, tearful, forlorn … lost in thought. Arjun walks in with file and notices her. Does he not know that she is the bride ? I doubt it.

Curious he steps closer and introduces himself. Geet does not hear me. Arjun continues saying, what's wrong u seem worried. Geet wakes up from her reverie, stands up and hastily wipes her tears.

Arjun handles the situation very well…find a damsel in distress, calms her down to open up to a stranger. Some super dialogues from Barry….saving it for another day. I don't think Arjun expected to find an intelligent, thoughtful mind behind that face. He was taken in by her story and her simplicity….and I feel genuinely opens up and advises her. There seemed to be no airs around her …unlike NT, NE. What u see is what u get.

Drashti and Piyush did very well in this scene. Arjun- Geet – their first step to building up a rapport.

Arjun must have expected to see a small window into her thoughts but got a mountain load instead. He is intrigued by what he's hearing…he is drawn to this stranger girl's thinking, her fears, her past …she is an enigma…when push comes to shove…he will hesitate to exploit her….this is my initial reaction.

His male protective instinct kicks in and he tries to pacify her by giving her the analogy of different months in a year having different seasons. Phew…thank god…no more astronomy…more like the weather channel. But I liked his advice and Geet did too.

Geet feels reassured by this stranger, calms down and thanks him. She finds out that Arjun is here to meet Anwesha and goes to find her.

Geet-NE

She finds her in the dining room…both wanting to talk to each other. So Anwesha leads her outside to talk to her and takes her to the outhouse which is dark. NE turns on the light and the dhol starts playing. Geet turns around to see the office staff decked up in all finery dancing the bhangra…Maan walks in and stays in the background. NE looks at Maan and smiles

NE tells her that she brought her her coz she didn't know how to ask for forgiveness. And adds a nice touch, courtesy Maan, all the girls are Geet's maiyka and the boys are from the groom's side…a complete family. NE says she is defo on the bride's side. Geet is touched and says that she has found a sister who will always support her and hugs NE….NE gives a thumps up to bro. Maaneet exchange smiles. Geet's humility comes out when she says that NE did not have to do all this…all she needed was a hug. But NE confesses that this was planned by Maan. Maaneet exchange a smile.

Maaneet, Dadi, Arjun – another good scene

Dadi asks wots happening hearing the music. Maan is about the respond when he spies Arjun and says U ?

Geet feels guilty that she left Arjun hanging and apologizes. Maan is shocked. Dadi is surprised to see him. Before Maan can say anything she tells him that Arjun had come to return the file but feels that Arjun would be the best wedding planner for them. Maan puts his foot down and says that I've decided that Arjun will not be the wedding planner. I like the way Geet tells him…Maan agar apne yeh faisla liya hai to soch samajkar hi liya hoga. But can I ask why ? Do u know today when I was alone, he'd helped me. Maan refuses to accept her statement and enlightens her …isne jo bhi kiya tumhari madad ke liye nahi, apne maqsad ke liye kiya…that Arjun is NT's bro.

Geet is shocked. She turns around and asks Arjun – u din tell me this. One thing I liked about Arjun is that he looks Geet straight in her eye…there's still hope for him.

Arjun defends himself saying I din know who u were…I just found out today that u r the girl Maan's getting married to. I know there is a lot of hatred for NT,so I'm relinquishing this contract coz I don't want anyone to look at me with doubt…n Maan I won't justify myself any further…and hands over the file to Geet….and asks Geet's forgiveness. I asked u to forget ur past but unknowingly I reignited those same thoughts from ur past….I'm sorry.

He gives Maan one last look and turns to leave.

Geet stops Arjun. Maan is upset…Geet what r u doing ? did u forget how many zakhm NT has given u ? He is the same NT's bro.

I know Maan. I can never forget that….nor can I ever forgive NT. But this doesn't mean that we should look at everyone associated with NT with suspicion. Arjun listening keenly.

Both Maaneet are so much in character….Maan the angry, arrogant, unwilling to believe anyone that has defied the truth. For Maan once he judges a person he is unwilling to change his opinion…coz he arrives at it with a lot of thought. This might not be applicable with his opinion about Arjun. For Maan life is either black or white…nothing in between.

Geet is also still the same, in love with life, inspite of all her past unhappiness, willing to give another a chance, unwilling to paint everyone with the same brush. She would rather color them differently.

Maan tries to protest but Geet stops him saying u n Dev r bros. But u two are so diff. After what Dev did to me, I shud never have trusted u. If I think like u then I wud think that u would also one day betray me.

Dadi says Geet is right (arjun turns around and looks at Maan who is listening to Dadi's words)…all 5 fingers are not alike…n how can u forget that he saved my life this morning. This is news to Geet….another brownie point in Arjun's favor…but Arjun is not gloating.

Arjun, I feel has also had a lot of eye-openers. For starters, he met Geet and has formed his own opinion. Then he met Geet with her family, Maan and Dadi. Then he finds out that Geet has been wrong by Dev and NT…something so bad that she can never forgive NT. And then inspite of this , how she is willing to give Arjun a second chance. A lot of things that Arjun has to digest…something I'm sure his sister has not been upfront with. How do all these developments affect his mission of ruining Maan's happiness ?

Bahut nek hai yeh Dadi says. Give him another chance. (Arjun pretty soon u hav to prove or disprove Dadi).

Geet continues. Maan u always look at people with sachai ke nazar. ..so tell me, wud it be right if we look at Arjun with NT ki nazariya se? How can we judge Arjun without knowing him?

Maan cannot argue with Geet's logic but is unwilling to bring down his guard and says that tho he may go with them but does not accept their choice. Geet looks at Dadi who nods her head in acquiescence. Geet then looks at Arjun smiling and Arjun returns her smile.

A perfect game of chess …in progress.

A white king, queen and bishop ….facing off a black knight who is trying to defend his dark queen. The duel between the white king and the black knight will be fascinating. The black king is nowhere to be found….But after today, I feel Arjun will go hunt Dev down to get some answers.

Nissar, CVs, Barry – Brilliant !!!

Gurmeet, Drashti, Arjun – Fantastic performances. Arjun welcome to the team.

NE, Dadi – Good job !

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Edited by starlite7 - 14 years ago

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@-RD-

Stunner

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Posted: 14 years ago

#14

"A man is a God in ruins." Ralph Waldo Emerson

The Problem doesn't lie in MSK but Viewers perception of him

"Shallow men speak of the past; wise men of the present and fools of the future"

So MSK is the wise one .....neither does he speak abt his past nor abt the future all he values and talks about and looks to cherish is his present with Geet

"Men are born soft and supple; dead they are stiff and hard. Plants are born tender and pliant; dead, they are brittle and dry. Thus whoever is stiff and inflexible is a disciple of death. Whoever is soft and yielding is a disciple of life. The hard and stiff will be broken. The soft and supple will prevail."

And its falling in Love thats made him soft and supple again ...and so he shall prevail...his character is as beautiful as the rainbow ....his personality having various hues/shades to it along with the pot of gold which is his heart and to see the rainbow and get the pot of gold u have to go thru the rain ......

As for todays epi

Geets char is kinda stagnant and isnt growing cause she isnt learning from her past mistakes and is falling for words despite the deceit she faced due to words in the past ....and her apparent relation based comparison was kinda flawed in my opinion cause Maan had proved himself on countless occasions as being different to dev when she found out they were siblings where as Arjun hasnt done anything to prove he is different rather if he was the right guy he shud have said I am NT's bro instead of Maan saying so ...also I have been told never to tell strangers anything and Geet always tells everything to anyone even the little kid in Home Alone knows that u don't tell everything to strangers .

Geet's char needs to mature with experience but I dont see that happening and who am I to complain when I dont contribute to the trps

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MarshP

@MarshP

Rocker

+ 3

Posted: 14 years ago

#15

-The Episode-

After a long time we finally get an episode with logic. I liked the overall episode, even the Maan and Anvesha scene, which at a first glance looks childish and immature coming Maan. The idea behind the scene was good; Maan was trying to show her that prejudices are clouding her judgment. However, this scene turned out to be subpar due to a subpar performance from Nikunj. Her acting leaves Annie's character unconvincing. It's true that I don't like the idea of Maan getting a sister out of thin air, however I do understand that what is done is done. Just because the audience may accept this character out of nowhere, doesn't mean that we can accept performances that are obviously lacking on a regular basis. Annie's reactions to the truth revelation were horrible at best and she ruined the scene for me by making it look amateur. The rest of the episode was good! I especially liked the Geet and Arjun scene. It gives his character a mystery factor, and makes the audience wonder whether Arjun is positive or negative. However, please CVs don't make a Arjun a another character in limbo. In simple words, we don't want another Dev! He is meant to negative and he should remain that way. The last scene were Geet chooses to give the contract to Arjun despite knowing he is NT's brother, was very much in her character. Geet is a person who chooses to believe in the good in people. She is innately trusting and at times to a fault. And I for one didn't feel that Geet compared Maan to Arjun, she simply compared the situation. I liked Geet giving Arjun the file; that means the story is going somewhere. This track might seem like troubled times ahead for Maan and Geet, but it is not necessarily so. This track has a lot of potential and will end with Maan and Geet on top. However, whether this ends up being a winner in terms of logic depends purely on execution, and execution alone. So CVs please put your logical minds to work and give us something GEET like, because lately the show has been very out of character.

-The Maan-

Maan today did something that goes against his very instincts. He knows that Arjun is up to no good BUT he lets Geet give the contract to Arjun. He expresses his displeasure and simply walks away. The look Maan gave as he walked past him was enough to show the audience that Maan will be ready. Now the Maan and Arjun war is all set. Let's sit back and watch how the battles unfold!

Sin: Awesome "analysis" my fren👏....Maan sure has his share of issues that expands beyond his gigantic ego. Aisa Bhi Hota Hai Part 2 is Priceless!🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dupatta Zindabad!

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BgblZoolander69

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+ 5

Posted: 14 years ago

#16

Today's den dedicated to The Maan Singh Khurana, is he man or god?

Arjun Vs. MSK

Round 1: Arjun 1 - MSK 0

Welcome back Logic!

Maan and Anvesha scene - I liked this scene. For the first time Maan was able to play connect the dots and find a solution to the problem (this is how it should have always been and should continue to be). They way he explained to Annie about the truth was smart as well. It was a well thought out scene. It definitely felt like a brother sister moment, where the elder brother teaches his younger sister about right and wrong. Gurmeet was good with his expressions. If Nikunj was better with the acting the scene would have had more impact

Arjun and Geet Scene - This was my favorite scene of the episode. First off, I like Arjun's character.Do I like Arjun? YES!! A suave villain he is...and he might not be a villain at the end. He is interesting and there is more then meets the eyes. He has many layers. He has potential to be both positive and negative, basically a character with grey shades. He appears to be a strong character. I want to see more of what is going on in his psyche. The scene was a very emotional one. Geet's pain was evident and it made me genuinely feel for her as I always do. Geet pours out her heart to Arjun and he gives her good advice. I think Geet's innocence and sweet charm might end up to be Arjun's weakness and not Maan's as everyone continues to believe. How is it not possible to get engrossed in Geet's innocence and goodness? Some are jealous and hate her for it, while others love her madly for it. Drashti stole the show with her brilliant depiction of pain and sadness.

Arjun strikes again! - Arjun has somehow been able to get the three most important people in Maan's life (Geet, Daadi, and Anvesha) in the palm of his hand or so he thinks. I am sure he is under the impression that Geet will be his ticket to destroy Maan. I feel though he is wrong, Geet may be the only one who will save Maan. How will Arjun win the battle? Will it be through Geet or Anvesha's heart? I am hoping that he falls for Geet. That will add spice to the story. Him falling for Anvesha is just too predictable and been there done that. But that us most likely the path Cv's will take.

I love the fact that Geet gave Arjun a chance despite the fact that he is NT's brother. This nature about Geet is what sets her apart and why Maan loves her. I do not believe her to be his weakness at all. She is a strong woman who is able to fight for herself and for Maan when it is needed. Here we have two people who love each other so immensely that they are willing to give anything for the others happiness. I do not think we need to worry who will win the battle between Arjun and Maan because of this reason. They will stand up for each other and fight for each other. What will be fun to watch is how Arjun attempts to trample them. Now the question is how is right in judging Arjun, Maan or Geet? I shall say both. Ajrun has two sides to him. There is one side that is misguided by his sister and believes that Maan has ruined her life and there is his "good" side. If he was all evil, he would not have given Geet advice or consoled her. Maan is right in judging him because; Arjun is truly after his happiness. Geet is right because it is not in Arjun's innate nature to be evil but he is rather influenced by external factors.

Over all - An improvement from what I have been seeing for the past couple of weeks (pathetic script and logic). It was a good episode with things that finally make sense.

Now let's come to the theme of the den; Maan Singh Khurana. Naam mein bhi kitna daam hai! What is he? Man or god? Obvious answer: man with god complex. Sinny has wonderfully depicted the many facets within Maan Singh Khurana's mind. I do not feel the need to say much more. I will say that every human being is sculpted with the happenings of their past. The past frames our present and future. It makes us who we are. Maan is a perfect example of that. We do not know what has happened in his past, but were given clues that a certain experience in his life has made him the man we see today. Maan sees himself as self actualized and strong person both emotionally and physically. He holds himself in high regards. He comes off as strong, but in reality he is weak. He is weaker then Geet, who he perceives to be fragile and always in need of him (which I believe comes from the fear of abandonment). The experience with Sameera broke him and made him reclusive. That is not a sign of a person who is emotionally strong. Yet Geet, who has faced so many hurdles, still lives life with a smile on her face. Maan has high morals and is brave. That is what makes him appear so superior. He may stand there like he is the king of the world with his arms flooded across his chest and clenching his jaws, but he is nothing but a man scarred from the battles of life. However, with time and the right influence we are able to see his gentle side.

I still remember my reaction from the first time Geet bumped into him at the fair and he pushed her away. I hated him at that moment. But he made a lasting impression. Until I saw him save Geet from the water I wondered what kind of man denies a girl help. Then today we have the Maan Singh Khurana who is willing to give even his life for that same girl who was a thorn in his life. Now I wonder what kind of man does so much for a girl that you cannot help but love him. Yet that arrogance and self importance is still intact in his nature. We see a soft side, but we also see that rage when it is needed. We as humans are not made of a single quality, but many qualities that come to form when the situation requires it. Same goes for Maan. He may have been that arrogant man filled with hatred back in Hoshiarpur, today he is a man in love whose compassionate qualities (Not that he wasn't compassionate before.He has always been Geet's savior. Even if he acted like she annoyed him.) are brought to the forefront because of his predicament.

Edited by Ann.A - 14 years ago

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@49erFan

Sparkler

+ 4

Posted: 14 years ago

#17

Again, Im pressed for time!

Here is my short take today!

Great episode, story is moving ahead and just loved how Geet made the decision of keeping Arjun and I'll explain why in a bit!

MSK, knows how to handle all his ladies and he does it so sportingly with his sister. Great way to handle things and clear the misunderstandings between sister and ur future wife, very important if he wants to have any hair left on his head! 😆He came out clean and told NE everything, even about the baby, I loved that part so they won't have any misunderstanding later. Loved how he put a smile on Geet's face. He will do anything to keep all three happy!

Arjun and Geet interaction, Arjun will learn from his talk with Geet, he maybe a grey character and he is no fool! Trust me he will connect the dots and come to Geet's defense later which means he will even dis his own sister for this! Geet's innocense will bowl the guy over, make him realize that Geet is not who NT makes her out to be and this will make him get to the bottom of the truth! Im sure he will try to harm her, but later realize. I don't think he will fall for her, but when he does find out the truth and Geet's family not present at wedding he will give Geet away to Maan, meaning he might just do her kanyadaan! I know my hopes are too high, but I think this is the way it will go! Geet will win this battle with her strength and her heart of gold!

MSK, wow how he knows that Arjun comes with a hidden agenda! Yes Arjun has a line up! 😆Again, creatives why fight the battle with getting at all of Maan's ladies, leave to a man to man battle na! 😆
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Arjun still needs a haircut, Im hoping roots don't start growing on his forehead! 😆

NE can't act at all, she is a total turn off for me!

Edited by 49erFan - 14 years ago

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taqdir

@taqdir

Dazzler

Posted: 14 years ago

#18

Excellent episode, amazing story! Story writing team was brilliant today. You did a very good job balancing the logic, the story and the characters. Today I will give the whole credit to the writing team. The performers are always good, the director already acknowledged but the story writing team seemed to have worked really hard to come up with such an amazing idea. Congratulations!

Well, how do I start? The mind blowing part was when geet stated the fact that if maan and dev can be different being brothers so why cant the same happen with NT and arjun? That single sentence rocked the entire episode. I mean, we know arjun would have to plan the wedding to create suspense in the story. We also know that its totally stupid if maan remains unaware of it till the wedding day. It would be more than illogical if maan agreed to hire arjun after knowing that he was the wedding planner. The craziest thing would have been if maan didn't try to stop his family from hiring arjun. Yet so conveniently and sensibly arjun was kept as the wedding planner because geet's logic was very strong. Although in this case its not logic but experience that prevented maan from supporting such an idea. Nevertheless maan understood that arjun has convinced the ladeies about his innocence and geet's logic forced him to give arjun a chance. But as an experienced businessman he knows whom not to trust which is why he is unhappy about the situation. What an excellent balance of characters and story! How beautifully we saw each of the characters playing their role properly and yet allowing the story to flow. Yes, sometimes in life the enemy will sit in your bedroom and drink wine and you will have to tolerate it and stay alert!

Now about maan-NE communication, I am not quite satisfied with the way maan tried to explain NE the dealings with dev and geet. Dev's act itself is quite huge and it really doesn't matter how much geet trusted him. Whether geet trusted dev or not doesn't change the intensity of the crime. After saving NE from falling I really thought maan was going to say that how come NE can have faith in him and not his choice? How come NE supposed that maan could love someone who can break the family? Because the path he took to make NE understand with a real life experiment lead my thoughts that way. Secondly, NE reacted less than expected. She took one complete episode to complain and react regarding maan's wedding and some significant amount of time on two episodes crying over the family condition and compared to that, today her reaction was kind of invisible. I understand that the team may not want to waste any more time on dev controversy but at least they could have showed tears rolling down NE's cheeks out to utter sadness thinking what dev did as well as out of deep respect towards maan for being so great. Because NE has no idea how geet changed maan and melted the frosty heart of him everyday. According to NE, it should be as simple as that her one bro damaged an innocent girl's life while the other acted as an angel to love, respect and accepted her in his life. Some tears and reactions are necessary but unfortunately the team made NE react and cry for the wrong reasons before and wasted the right situations where her character could have gained some brownie points.

Well, some minor likings and disliking goes here

1. Geet shook out of surprise hearing the sound of the drum in the dark. Awesome reflex!

2. Maan-geet gestures of appreciation while the office team was dancing was beautiful

3. Tasha's presence in the dancing group was ridiculous as well as hilarious. It looked as if she was punished; which is, dancing to please geet.

4. Arjun-Geet interaction was good. Its ok for arjun not to know the bride as she is not expected to be in the groom's place.

That's all from me now. I would like to thank the writing team again for being so creative. They not only did their homework well but seem to have done a whole lot of successful research on how to keep the story intact and the characters consistent. See, this is what we want actually at the end of the day, a good story. Beside a good story we love to see some romance, suspense, adventure, fun, etc. We want our bread/rice plain and want curry/veg/salad on the side. Curry as a main meal is not fulfilling as well as unhealthy. Today the meal was excellent. The curry was good too, the veg quite healthy. Well the salad had some strong repelling spice but we managed it well. So thank you for the wonderful dinner.

Loves and prayers…….

Edited by taqdir - 14 years ago

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vasuja

@vasuja

Voyager

Posted: 14 years ago

#19

I am liking the episode till now...Good development in story line...

two points I am gonna clap for

Maan said Anne that Geet is pregnant👏

Geet knows Arjun is NT's bro👏

Will write my views after the epi is over

I loved todays epi:

The story moved and that too in a decent speed.....I totally loved it.

Maan-NE scene: Maan allowed NE to rant about Geet, understood what she felt. I also liked the way Maan made NE understand what trust means and how wrong it is to break someone's trust. NE knows now that Dev cheated Geet and she is pregnant with his child. The dialogues were crisp, to the point and no drag.👏👏👏 Good NE's brain worked and she realised her mistake

Geet-NB scene: when I heard NB telling Geet to talk her heart out to Ajnabee I remembered Geet's convo with Meera- the difference is that Meera was good and NB is evil. Arjun's dialogue was very good and it did soothe Geet. Perfect dialogues to make him look good in front of Geet. This Arjun is intriguing me....Very interesting character till now😊😊

Geet-NE- Maan-KC gang: Ok Maan calls her friends to cheer her up... Good 😳but was that chudail Tasha doing 😡. She just needs a bahana to enter Khurana mansion. Geet & NE are sisters now😡 Aaj kal Geet mein sister sister khel hein....😆😆😆 The apology was good. DD'e expressions were on dot, Nikunj looked sweet but her expression lacked depth. Since Annie is here to stay I am trying to accept her😡😡 Please CVS give 4 lines of dialogue to give her a back story...You have introduced such a major character atleast give her 5 mins in an epi and give her back ground story... you wasted showing her makeup in intro😡

Geet-Daadi-Maan-Arjun scene: Well Geet what I mentioned earlier. Geet's logic makes sense. her dialogues were true. from Geet's perspective giving Arjun a second chance makes total sense...She justified it with her dialogues. Just one doubt. I think Arjun knows the cases on NT and he thinks all these are stories made up by the khuranas. Today I remembered Maan's dialogue when he said Geet first time sorry, "Geet, Tum bilkul meri Dadi ke tharah baath jkar rahi ho" So Geet and Dadi think alike...I am happy that Maan agreed for Geet's sake but clearly expressed his dislike. Thanks MSK character is intact.

Arjun's character is growing on me....He is so grey and all of us are totally unaware of his next move.....NT was pure evil who pounced directly, but Arjun is so calculative.....finally a villain with brains.

No precap today

10/10 for today's epi for the story, screenplay, and dialogues

Edited by vasuja - 14 years ago