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blue5sky

@blue5sky

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Posted: 10 years ago

#451

Just caught up with why me?
So poignant.
Life for me has all been about eating humble pie and reversing strong stands. Like- I will never quit my job, I will never be the kind of girl that will wear saris because my mother in law wants me too. I shall never aspire or covet my bosses jobs and the list goes on.

I guess II joining Ranjan could be pretty much like an extension her care for Ranjan. My aunt became a student of law when she was 34 because she could not bear to see her 82 year maternal grand father's law practice go down! The practice was an 80 year old practice when she took over all they did was civil cases for agricultural lands tucked in town in south India helping farmers who brought in banana and paddy for fees. Her parents in law and husband ( my mama) minded the kids during her course. And she was no soap bahu.

Sometimes we girls go through this phase of not wanting to be type cast so stringently that we stop being true to our nature. I did before I learnt my lessons 😭. Thankfully almost every test taught me to respect the family I had around me.

Either way you take this Nisha you will have us clamouring for more as always!

II and RnB are you babies... Just that this pride here loves them immensely. And we want the very best for them.

Great work rock star! You have us all eating out of your hands!

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Ashu25

@Ashu25

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 10 years ago

#452

Originally posted by: TanjoreGirl

boll de get it out ..nobody will shoot koi majaal kisi ki ..bol de..

actually everyone's opinion is right from where they come from

Hahahahah

Bahut saara logic nikalta hai yahan Anu.

I am a very emotional person

Itna logic seh pana mushkil hai mere liye

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harshita

@harshita27

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#453

Originally posted by: swathi1990

Harsh

Great points !!!

But there I have some questions...

Do u think R&B keeping the shares and misleading people is wise ??? or do you expect him to continue juggle both argent and excelsior ???? What is the expectation and how do you think R&B failed...

And my two cents about "People should think about all others before taking a decision"...I never agree with this...A doctor makes money and sustains his family only when other people become sick...Whatever u eat is coming by either killing a plant or an animal...In a sense if you look at any action we perform, one's profit is another's loss...That is how the universe is set up...and if we look at human's actions each and everything we do is to attain profit/sustainability over a long term...So, leaving the person's passion or happiness just for the thought that the company wouldnt run at all is unacceptable...He didnt give it to a crook...He gave it to an honest, capable and interested Ranjan...tomorrow Ranjan can sell it to an equally hardworking and honest person...Infact no organization/life depends on one person...Everything is replaceable...

Swathi!!!

I knew tum R&B ke support mei bologi... I too was and am in support of R&B pursuing his passion - angel investment... But keeping his shares, maintaining a non-working owner title , likehe had been maintaining all his life , possibly since the day he was born, had not hindered his persuing of his passion. The firm is pvt rigt now... A few years later when Ranjan's health wouldfail, they could possibly go public n appoint other folks n still get the company running... Maybe Manny could step upto be the chairman or Tan and R&B n Manny could partly own the responsibility! There were options... This was a total knee jerk reaction to first signs of trouble at argent... My dad is a doctor, but he n I were very clear that if I didnt like bio, I am OK to go ahead with another profession... He has a big clinic.. But tomorrow if he wants my help in form of maintaining some non-working ownership, I would gladly do that... It would n should not come in my way.

On your other point about "people should think of others before taking a decision" - a doctor - a good one, always takes on committments he can fulfill...he doesnt promise magic when there is no hope just to keep making money at the same time a doctor never gives up hope of saving a life if he knows its even a 0.1% chance of survival... I have seen my dad, yes he makes money cozthat is his livelihood, but there have been sooo many times when we have had to return half way from a function, coz my dad got a call from hospital(he is on a salaried job, so he can choose to be on call or not), I dont remember going on any more than 6-7 days on vacation in 2-3 years not because we couldnt afford it, but coz dad had staff shortage, n couldnt take P.T.O so much without emergency... You are given a job, so just be true to it! N dont give up until there is absolutely no hope! You are an employer n not an employee because of 2 reasons - you have the skills to provide for people and also because people trust you in that position to take decisions for them... When a manager is hired,a junior's recommendation matters as much as a peer's or a seniors...coz finally it is the people below you whom you have to manage n your peers whom you have to deal with n your seniors whom you have to convince of your ideas.. You are given a higher post in a corporate ladder when you "step up in times of crisis/ opportunity"... Do a bit more than job description, warna apna toh sab sochte hain...jab log dusre ka bhi sochte hain tabhi they get recognized n praised as well... N that matters a lot in promotion! So when you become an employer, you dont take vacations wily nily... N you certainly dont up n leave... You weigh your each move, lay down what might happen if you take a given path n then choose one... The higher you go the bigger is the responsibility n the more responsible one would not just up n leave without trying every trick from the bag...

You say he didnt give it to crook... But the fact that company n employees now KNOW that the son will sell off n move on in a pvt company, might n will land the company with the same outcome - downfall of a flourishing business!Ranjan doesnt want to sell off his company! N R&B's action will ultimately lead to a sell off if someone from family does not step up... N if Ranjan has to sell n completely wash his hands off, toh wo kaam Ranjan tabhi kar deta jab he saw R&B is well settled with Argent... Are you implying that since it is not R&B's baby so it shouldnt matter to sell off Ranjan's dream when Ranjan gets old?? All am saying is, agar Ranjan ka sell off ka mann hota toh wo Excelsior ko itna grow hi nahi karta... Just like Argent is R&B's baby, Excelsior is Ranjan... They are working on it to just sell off! I dont know how to explain it...maybe someone else might do a better job at explaining ki selling off a flourishing business is not really a correct move!

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ishruhi

@ishruhi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#454

Originally posted by: ishruhi
no anu...its not like solving all problems single handedly but supporting a family member by what she can do...i think even rnb thinks he left ranjan alone which is bad in some sense.nahi tho he will not have showed this much sadness...she can help ranjan in some sorts.even not as a share holder but as an employee...even for a small period of time...

sorry anu...it was for swathi

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putti77

@putti77

Rocker

Posted: 10 years ago

#455

Originally posted by: swathi1990

No pls...😭😭

II can't join excelsior...That is sooo not her...She is not the soap bahu who tries to solve everyone's problems...

I cannot imagine II joining Excelsior. The thinking itself makes me uncomfortable.

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ishruhi

@ishruhi

Rocker

Posted: 10 years ago

#456

why i quoted my own post!!!i could have edited!!!aargh!!!

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ishruhi

@ishruhi

Rocker

Posted: 10 years ago

#457

if putti n swathi is having same opinion and if many others too have such,then lets wait for 3rd umpires decision then!!!

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Ashu25

@Ashu25

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 10 years ago

#458

Harshita... Wonderfully put again!!

Putti... Why NOT???

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Ashu25

@Ashu25

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 10 years ago

#459

Asma

..I almost missed your post!!

I loved your comment...

Wonderful of your aunt to have thought she could help her fil!!!

I am so glad people like this still exist...

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Hsp.canada

@Hsp.canada

Inactive

Posted: 10 years ago

#460

Originally posted by: TanjoreGirl
Swathi - R&B told Ranjan he is attending the AGM , u dont give up on ur family , u dont leave ur dad out there at 68 without providing any support...
u owe ur parents something.. if R&B was a hippy , musician , chef i can understand he is in the business of venture capitalism so Excel is not totally out of his zone..

he unfortunately hates his dad and holds him responsible for his moms death but wont put a detective to find the truth or punish him, he will hurt where it hurts most give up on something Ranjan holds on dearly ..

let me be honest right now i would like to be in hawaii, i dont want to make 20 mooli parathas after a grueling work day , i want to order food but i dont do that , nobody can question me if i did it but i decide to cook and clean because i feel its my responsibility to feed healthy so as an individual u have a responsibility towards ur family first ,your own way you have to come to some understanding u just cant let go , if you thought too hard u can never marry, have kids,

Nobody wanted R&B to run the company is it a crime to even expect to hold on ,its savvys too she would have been upset..

next i HONESTLY dislike the term soap bahu ...what is wrong in II becoming a CEO she is qualified for a story thats a twist and that will be so perfect here ..this is what happens in most business homes when the man is not interested women take leadership roles..i think its perfect totally perfect ..i would be such a shipper for that i honestly in real life cant wait to see something like that a Bajaj or Reliance or Birla being helmed by an Iyer /middle class educated girl 👏
ek baar II type person instead of the entitled species will be so cool.

I have also noticed that whenever anyone acts straight or normal we think its soapy but we dont become Dalai Lama when we say we want peace , we are being normal.

Anu I said the same thing on page 87 of SS 25. It's not about u as in an individual when u are a shareholder of a big company, u are liable to the employees. That's what I had felt after the Natraj update, u and Hersehey put forward the points in a very crystal clear manner👏 I think most kids in this day and age follow what they want and maybe we old school that we think about others😭. I felt really bad for Ranjan. I still do. Maybe we are moms so feel it more, we don't think in I anymore it's always we and so our passion run high.😆😆

I will just copy what I had written to Swatti

Swatti we are born to do our thing, we do what we feel like especially in this day and age. But if you are born in business family, you have a legacy factor to take care off, (given it gives employment to few thousand people) even if your heart is not into it, you can set up a trust and walk away from that. But to sell it a robber is as good as participating in the crime.

RnB is a shrewd business man like his dad. He better have a good explanation if he indeed sold his shares. I somehow can't process if he sold just to spite his father. He has immense respect for his old man as Savvy did an amazing job in raising him. I am perfectly fine if RnB doesn't want to sell cars, but don't leave the business without any advice on how to manage resources. RnB should also give his exit plan not just drop the bomb. That would make him a malicious person, which will be so out of character.

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