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@nividances

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Posted: 10 years ago

#401

Typing this from my phone, so please excuse any typos/errors.

The same boiling water that softens potatoes hardens eggs. It's all about what you are made of, not your circumstances. The scandal and Savita's subsequent sudden passing exacerbated the situation and created the current circumstances that are so uncomfortable. Despite all this though, the bottom line is that R&B was never interested in Ranjan's business, even when Savita was around. Her presence or lack thereof did not at all impact R&B's interest in Excelsior. The expectations that Ranjan, Sam, and Tan had from R&B that he would some day put down roots in India and become somewhat involved in Excelsior were unrealistic from the get go...it has nothing to do with the circumstances, it's just not who he is. Also, the advice that both Sam and Tan gave him? To figure out the truth. That's not at all like him...he is quiet and unexpressive, but extremely emotional as well. So how and why would he dig up old skeletons in search of an answer that either way wouldn't bring back the one person he loves most in this world?

I'm not saying that he is correct for giving up the shares and quitting from his position so suddenly (he is certainly wrong for being so hasty), but his decisions are very much a reflection of who he is...hasty, nomadic, and completely uninterested in selling cars. A moment of patience in a moment of anger and frustration could have saved him the moments of regret that he is facing now and may face in the future. But again, that's just who he is.

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taramira

@taramira

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#402

KOI bechare RB ka birthday celebrate karega ki nahin?? or is he a larger than life character... jo upar se tapka... as it is my over dramatic heart is going out to him... dude dikhata nahin but so much kashma kash going on inside... aiyooo.

I can just imagine II and he sharing a deep intense look revealing each others internal battles, when they see each other for the first time after the selling.

I also Imagined a conversation that II has with Sam. Sam upset and II finding herself defending the dude in a subtle non committal manner.

I am 100 per cent sure that this will bring them closer... of course she will not suddenly become a devi and sing "mera Pati mera devta hai" and curl up the ends of her braid.. but something will shift.

sabse zyada dukh mujhe tab hoga when he wraps up the room. Spectrum and his love story are so interconnected. I guess now it will be simply RB and II and nor RB excelsior and II KMPG.

and as Alfred Tennyson very aptly put forth

'The old order changeth yielding place to new And God fulfills himself in many ways Lest one good custom should corrupt the world."

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taramira

@taramira

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#403

so so sorry, I dont know what happened back there. Itna bara kaise ho gaya???

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TanjoreGirl

@TanjoreGirl

Dazzler

Posted: 10 years ago

#404

@nivi totally valid point..but my sympathy is more with Ranjan simply cause that poor guy has been asking his kids to attend, tan to take..nobody seems to care about it ..bas ek baar bol detha pehle, why raise hopes by saying i will come and then sell but like i said for both Ranjan and R&B its only going to get better from here.. may be end of sani dasai..

@tara lovely comment hum karenge celebrate R&B ka bday thoda let it cool down..

@shilpa iyers only solution to every problem bhagwan ki pooja karo ..homan is good for the MM house..😃

and my lovely Nisha ..i ❤️ you, so sweet i could use all the love i get here cause i am sitting and cooking here :-)
and of course Sosy crisis is so much better ..
and ur sons last first grade day so sweeet , i cried buckets when it was my daughters last day in KG then found a solution we dont treat her a day older than 6 even now 😆 ..we have a few more days before school closes..

will be back in a couple of hours.. hope to carry my laptop to my bedroom to type in the night i hate the ipad..

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Srividya

@moonwearer

Rocker

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Posted: 10 years ago

#405

Originally posted by: nividances
Typing this from my phone, so please excuse any typos/errors.
The same boiling water that softens potatoes hardens eggs. It's all about what you are made of, not your circumstances. The scandal and Savita's subsequent sudden passing exacerbated the situation and created the current circumstances that are so uncomfortable. Despite all this though, the bottom line is that R&B was never interested in Ranjan's business, even when Savita was around. Her presence or lack thereof did not at all impact R&B's interest in Excelsior. The expectations that Ranjan, Sam, and Tan had from R&B that he would some day put down roots in India and become somewhat involved in Excelsior were unrealistic from the get go...it has nothing to do with the circumstances, it's just not who he is. Also, the advice that both Sam and Tan gave him? To figure out the truth. That's not at all like him...he is quiet and unexpressive, but extremely emotional as well. So how and why would he dig up old skeletons in search of an answer that either way wouldn't bring back the one person he loves most in this world?

I'm not saying that he is correct for giving up the shares and quitting from his position so suddenly (he is certainly wrong for being so hasty), but his decisions are very much a reflection of who he is...hasty, nomadic, and completely uninterested in selling cars. A moment of patience in a moment of anger and frustration could have saved him the moments of regret that he is facing now and may face in the future. But again, that's just who he is.

Loved yhe analysis...the bold stands out ...

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Srividya

@moonwearer

Rocker

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Posted: 10 years ago

#406

The events unfolding since the Tananda and II's prayers for helping her family are heart rending...I wonder like the varied metaphors Nisha uses is the Free...giving up what he owned symbolic that the hatred...anger ...would slowly get replaced with/by the love of II Lasya and the Paavadai clad angels who would render Rukmini Ramana and address the dude as their Appa? Only time will unravel as he heals...there is great pain...the pain can also bring in its own dynamism to relationships...we see the insecure side of R&B everytime II comes close to claiming the dude as HERS,,he wants to be comforted the way he comforts II ... after the intial angst...i am hopeful that some perspective change will come...

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Srividya

@moonwearer

Rocker

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Posted: 10 years ago

#407

Originally posted by: Nisha0604
Vidya, this is for you. I read your comment from last night about letting go of the kids you teach. I can only imagine how hard it can be. I still get dreams of my 11th & 12th grade Commerce class, standing in the corridor and gossiping when we suddenly would get a period off coz the teacher took the day off. I distinctly recall everything we did for the 12th graders Farewell. I dont recall much of the farewell WE got.
I have made it a point to visit my school many many many times over the years (My husband will bribe the bahadur at the gate to let us in if we happen to go on a Sunday. Such a different feeling it is... I cannot describe it😭) Its no longer the illustrious, geeky, Iyer/Iyengar bastion of learning for kids of people working in the bureaucracy. It continues to function though, differently

There is a HUGE Saraswati statue in the lobby, the school would hire a Iyer priest every Feb to conduct Ganapati homam and Saraswati homam before they handed out our Board Exam hall tickets.

I have in the last 10 or so years gone a couple times to my teenager's "last day of school" when he was in Elementary, ALL the teachers, staff, lunch ladies would ALL LINE UP AND WAVE AT A STRING OF YELLOW SCHOOL BUSES ceremonially

"have a good summer" they cheer as the kids would go beserk screaming from the windows.
I tear up as I write this, because today's the last day of my 1st grader's school year
Its a very poignant scene, to watch 100s of adults sending off kids like that.

I would be a basket case if I were a teacher😭 Its impossible for me to let go of things so I wud be in an asylum

Thank you for taking the time to write this touching post...yes it is a happy moment tinged in pain when i watch babies that step in as 3 year olds leave 14 years later as young men and women...having forged bonds and ties that last a life time...would i want to do anything else...No...:) Schools may be constantly changing ...if we have the will we can be change makers...i have children walking up to seek blessings and a kumkum smear from Saradha,,,doing a namaskaram looking up with the same affection hope at a family member...one can only smile and let out a silent prayer say a few reassuring words...

Edited by srividyamouli - 10 years ago

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harshita

@harshita27

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#408

Originally posted by: TanjoreGirl

Hershey sathya vachan you know i was in such shock that R&B sold that I couldnt comment in the thread uthna bura laga mujhe , just glad it didnt go to Chachu ...
You know one whole afternoon i tried to tell the same kki not done , you dont bail on your family , you dont bail and then folks said Ranjan deserved it 😭😭 from the beginning he has been saying do nothing just hold on , why cant that guy get even that small happiness 😭

a 68 year old Ranjan in that conference room with his only son giving it back is just sooo sad,so sad .. koi kuch bhi kahe its sad..

I had made an oath no more Ranjan gushing , no more Ranjan supporting but not able to 😭

The light at the end of the tunnel is it can only get better for Ranjan after this..
no wife, no kids supporting him, so guess after this even Minion offering chai will seem better.

Koi humare Ranjan Ko bachao and like Sam said find out and put him in jail but is roz ke unwanted zindagi se chutkara do..

Anu! I do not support or oppose Ranjan's innocence... My gripe is with the protagonist taking the easy way out... R&B acted like an immature businessman...thinking about himself rather than the company and its employee... He made money... I know 4.5 cr is like no big deal for a paris based angel investor... But for Excelsior employees, this move means an ageing owner who now holds 71% shares and the only clear successor washed his hands off the company...now if the companymakes losses or there is attrition considering they dont see a bright long term outlook, is it not R&B who has finally brought down Excelsior...yes, he didnt sell to Harish... But the fact that he quit is in itself pretty disheartening for the excelsior business morale... There is clearly no worthy or competent successor to this Pvt Ltd firm... Harish is itching to usurp the power n eat the tree called excelsior like a Termite... R&B just provided the draught that would bring out the same end to the tree... One way or the other...he is going to cause exact same outcome that Ranjan didnt want for thefruit of his labor...R&B calls himself a businessman... But I think he is just like any other MBA from those big schools Warton, Harvard etc.. Who have knowledge but no committment, they are looking for their betterment and not thinking of anyone else... His is a small personnel asset... He doesnt think of the responsibility that Ranjan has...towards the employees of excelsior..he couldnt do his job well in one place.. So he didnt try another tactics... He took the flight at first sight of any questions from a man who gives his day and night to the firm.. R&B speaks less... But I have never felt he has shied from getting his point across when at Argent... How come he didnt emply those tactics here??.. He just Acted selfish... N acted rash...he is truly Savvy's son..acting before thinking, IF savvy committed suicide... I want him to analyze his decision like a businessman and not an emotional person..it was a plain bad business decision...yes he owned negligible shares...but for the employees, it meant at some point in future he would inherit the rest of Bhalla shares and do the right thing by the company... By selling he showed the employees and the market that Ranjan is alone in all this... N that is my problem!!! When in business, you got to keep your personal grudges aside n do the right by the company! Why couldnt our protagonist do it in thefirst place...I guess he has to khao thokar before he learns... A nice business learning for him I suppose... One he will be able to pass to his grandkids ki dekho, I might have started n sustained a good business in Argent but I did make blunders like Excelsior... So there is always a reason why decision should be well thought out! Specially when you are responsible for soo many lives n their livelihood.

Edited by harshita27 - 10 years ago

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Nisha0604

@Nisha0604

Sparkler

Posted: 10 years ago

#409

Hersh

You mention some great points. I am totally stunned at how you interpreted it, very intelligent I must say, not that I ever doubted any of my readers, but kamaal ke observations

Yes the company is saddled with a aging weak man who even his family doesnt trust. The closest alternative is a crook!!

Wow!!

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Nisha0604

@Nisha0604

Sparkler

Posted: 10 years ago

#410

Originally posted by: srividyamouli

Vidya

I met my Sanskrit teacher 15 years after 10th grade (I didnt take Sanskrit in 11th & 12th grade), at some random temple event in South Delhi during one of my India trips. I did a namaskaram at the tent, people gave me weird looks. The teacher didnt remember me, she has taught 10,000s over her 30 year career. When I explained who I was, she began to cry.. though she still didnt remember she was touched by the gesture😭
I told her what a wonderful teacher she was, and how I credit much of my hymns and scripture knowledge to her alone👏 (9th & 10th grade Sanskrit curriculum included the Gita, not sure if it does now)

There was nobody on earth that could pronounce Sanskrit quite like her👏 A single Iyer lady that never married, lived with her brother's family. She conducted a shloka class in the lobby of the school by the Saraswati statue the first 25 minutes of lunch, all of us that went to the shloka class only got 15 minutes of lunch. Raja Rajeshwari bhajans, Kamakshi, Vishnu shlokas every shloka I know is because of her.
Most kids in the shloka class were also learning Carnatic at home (me? not so regularly) so they would be absolutely the BEST SINGERS👏 Every morning at assembly the shloka class girls would also be the prayer song singers

It was a pucca tachi mammu, jasmine string school😆 Teachers would show up late on Varalakshmi Pooja and male teachers would show up late on Avani Avittam😆

Sigh!!

You bring back such wonderful memories for me
THANKS FOR DECIDING TO COME OUT IN THE OPEN AND POST
I couldnt have taken a trip down memory lane without you

Edited by Nisha0604 - 10 years ago