daler biased

according to the 15th decmber gala..he said that even if aditya is given a month he wont be in tune...how can he decide that?that means that from now only he knows that even next week aditya wont sing well..he is a baised judge..palas did right by walking out...i say replace daler with shaan

he should give constructive criticism...he is discouraging him for no reason.... why doesn't he pick anyone one else..like Sammy..he is over-confident and he is totally besura...Aditya is a million times better than him!

Actually judges are not happy with adi's performance...
I dnt wats the reason..But judges have their own fav n they save them even they sing besura
Its an academy everybody has cum to learn..they can not judge on adi's performance n say he cannot sing well ever 😭

he said teen mahine me bhi sur me nahi gayega :( its so sad, now even if he sings surila, Daler will keep on thinking in his head, besura, besura...

I think Palash is lenient and some what has a soft corner for rock singers.. He keeps saying that in rock singing power is more important than sur... But the judges, Daler especially comes from a very traditional Indian classical school of music and for him sur is the utmost thing... so according to him Aditya is not good and needs to go miles to improve his sur.. which is quite okay... If according to him singing in perfect sur is the minm requirement, then he is quite okay in his judgement with Aditya. Infact many singers, Sonu Nigam, Suresh Wadekar etc., have quite made it clear that singing in sur is the least minm requirement... so I don't see Daler is biased in anyway...

If Palash wants the judges to have a soft corner for rock singers and wants them to judge on a different criteria... then that's his view point. he cannot impose it on the judges...

regarding his acceptability with the junta we know and have seen how in reality shows good singers keep getting chucked out... and some below average singers somehow manage to get more votes... there could be several reasons for this.. it is not clear as to why this happens. like in case of Qazi he has a tremendous personality and magnetic factor... In Qazi's case it was quiite obvious that he got votes due to his amazing persona,,, but in case of Aditya (not offending any of his fans) he is far from having that kind of persona like Qazi. I am sure he is not attracting the lakhs and lakhs of votes that Qazi had got... May be among the eliminated contestants like Tripti, Vidhan, Alok he has some edge over them in terms of persona and likability, popularity etc.,... But if he is pitted against someone like Ashutosh (who I think has comaprable persona and likability factor as Aditya has) his edge in voting might disappear.

But we cannot have support for Palash's argument that Aditya is getting more votes because people like his singing... Only after the voting patterns are analyzed by experts one can say what are the reasons why he has won in previous cafe rounds....

Originally posted by: jhansiv

I think Palash is lenient and some what has a soft corner for rock singers.. He keeps saying that in rock singing power is more important than sur... But the judges, Daler especially comes from a very traditional Indian classical school of music and for him sur is the utmost thing... so according to him Aditya is not good and needs to go miles to improve his sur.. which is quite okay... If according to him singing in perfect sur is the minm requirement, then he is quite okay in his judgement with Aditya. Infact many singers, Sonu Nigam, Suresh Wadekar etc., have quite made it clear that singing in sur is the least minm requirement... so I don't see Daler is biased in anyway...

I don't remember Palash saying that sur shouldn't be considered a factor in Aditya's case. He said that since Aditya's specialization is rock, it is hard for him to shift form rock to Indian where sur is considered differently than it is in rock. He wasn't trying to say to neglect sur. Even for him sur is important, but being a rocker himself, he know how hard it might have been to shift the gear. This perspective of his can only be see by him and not by other judges (since they don't have much knowledge about rock). So I don't agree that he has a soft corner for rock singers. As a matter of fact he has soft corner for all his students which is obvious till now.

Originally posted by: sneha_09

I don't remember Palash saying that sur shouldn't be considered a factor in Aditya's case. He said that since Aditya's specialization is rock, it is hard for him to shift form rock to Indian where sur is considered differently than it is in rock. He wasn't trying to say to neglect sur. Even for him sur is important, but being a rocker himself, he know how hard it might have been to shift the gear. This perspective of his can only be see by him and not by other judges (since they don't have much knowledge about rock). So I don't agree that he has a soft corner for rock singers. As a matter of fact he has soft corner for all his students which is obvious till now.

I am not questioning his love for his students. Yes he is quite close to them and very emotionally attached to them and genuinely wishes for the success for each of them. Infact I liked the way he encouraged Ritu and Alok. So I do not absolutely question his sincerity.

But when he is in a teacher's role he cannot let his background affect the type of encouragement he gives to his students. When good singers like Rohit, Tripti were having problems in bringing out their performance, in polishing their persona and making themseleves presentable and likable he did not go that extra mile of giving them the encouragement... certainly not to the extent that he empathized with the problems of Aditya...

Infact as far as I have seen it is the judges who thought to go a little lenient on the X-factor thing after the first round... That way even though Ritu just stood and sang her Abhija song she was appreciated for her singing and for whatever little positive qualities of X-factor in her. Now since she was not so criticized for her X-factor we could see that she certainly made progress in X-factor... Things like X-factor etc., can be developed within a short time (in most people's cases) unlike sur which takes longer. Infact the right attitude in helping people lacking X-factor is to be more encouraging towards them, that way they will overcome their inhibitions and can bring it out. But in case of sur if you are soft and lenient towards that person that will not help him/her to improve his/her sur... I didn't mean that you need to be unduly harsh towards them... but you need to tell the facts right.. Maybe the Fame academy might not be great place for Adi to further his talents, maybe he should take formal training for sometime ... that way since he has already has commendable X-factor and with his improved singing abilities he will go places and will become a true rock star... In the academy you can only polish the singing abilities, give some valuable tips in some of the things like maintaining voice, proper breathing techniques etc., but if someone is way below in the singing abilities then within 3 months they cannot make much strides in that... Maybe in one or two songs they will show remarkable singing capability but it might not be sustained.... So in that way I think the judges have done the right things... (Yeah Daler is somewhat harsher than he is he could have told Adi the same thing in a softer tone... )

Anyways the above is my two cents... I hardly have much knowledge of music, it is not upto me to tell if sur is important in singing or power is important. But in case if sur is important and if it takes a considerable amount of time to build the capability to sing in sur then the judges are right...

Originally posted by: sneha_09

I don't remember Palash saying that sur shouldn't be considered a factor in Aditya's case. He said that since Aditya's specialization is rock, it is hard for him to shift form rock to Indian where sur is considered differently than it is in rock. He wasn't trying to say to neglect sur. Even for him sur is important, but being a rocker himself, he know how hard it might have been to shift the gear. This perspective of his can only be see by him and not by other judges (since they don't have much knowledge about rock). So I don't agree that he has a soft corner for rock singers. As a matter of fact he has soft corner for all his students which is obvious till now.

i agree

and also daler shud be replaced....he cannot decide anything abt adiz future...who is he.......gawd i hate the guy sooo much😡

Well i think Daler is a great singer but he is not a good judge. I think he playing the bad guy where his job is to only critise like in pop idol there is one cant rember his name.

The last episode i think was intresting and they are jsut trying to get there TRP up. Seemed all pre planed even when Alok came back in the last min it all seemed preplanned to.

Now back to juding i think Daler has a problem with Adi and i think palsh did the right thing if i was there i would do the same. He basically asking Adi is leave singing cant say directly but thats wat the words he said he never encourages him for every other contestant its only 4 SUR how can it be allways 4 for every contestant in Adis case he is poora besura.

Daler also point out something that no has raise a issue on yet. He said that other shows a besura singer won the show and he feels disgusted about it. I think the other show is Fame Gurukul and the other singer is Qazi. Not 100% sure buti think i am 90% right.Which means indain public is a fool in his eyes. I think daler is frustrated and is taking it out on Adi as ppl r seeing other qazi in him.

Went too long LoL

laters

Originally posted by: bollyb

Well i think Daler is a great singer but he is not a good judge. I think he playing the bad guy where his job is to only critise like in pop idol there is one cant rember his name.

The last episode i think was intresting and they are jsut trying to get there TRP up. Seemed all pre planed even when Alok came back in the last min it all seemed preplanned to.

Now back to juding i think Daler has a problem with Adi and i think palsh did the right thing if i was there i would do the same. He basically asking Adi is leave singing cant say directly but thats wat the words he said he never encourages him for every other contestant its only 4 SUR how can it be allways 4 for every contestant in Adis case he is poora besura.

Daler also point out something that no has raise a issue on yet. He said that other shows a besura singer won the show and he feels disgusted about it. I think the other show is Fame Gurukul and the other singer is Qazi. Not 100% sure buti think i am 90% right.Which means indain public is a fool in his eyes. I think daler is frustrated and is taking it out on Adi as ppl r seeing other qazi in him.

Went too long LoL

laters

Having Known Adi for over 7 years...let me also offer my 2 cents in this forum...

The guy has loads of charisma and energy and i think thats the reason the public keeps voting for him. For those who dont know, let me tell you he is one of the top vocalists in english and is a frontman for a band called Oritus. He has composed gr8 songs and i hope that he sings one of those when he is to leave the academy.

Let me also say that we need not be overly critical of either Palash, Daler or Adi...everyone is correct in hos own way...for sure Adi is not the same with the hindi singing...Rock music has its own idiosyncracies wjoch demand that you sing the nodes and be very powerful while singing...Hindustani (in which Daler has been trained) classical music asks you to take care of the transitions that take place between Nodes too..there has to be a softness ....So i guess now we can see what is the issue as of now....Daler and Adi are on 2 different planes...Palash is one of the very few in India who has been able to bridge the divide somewhat between Rock and Hindustaani....

Having said that I really felt that Daler should only decide on the merit...I agree that Adi has not been the most accomplished in his singing...but I agree with the faculty that Adi did not deserve to be in the danger zone at least this time...I feel Daler does not like Adi for some reason...

I hope whichever candidate goes out...Merit should be the only criteria...Based on the combination of factors...I believe that Adi will be there in the show for at least few more weeks...Who knows if he is able to make the journey...he can be the winner...

till then keep rocking ...and voting Aditya...

cheers

Lalit