Ravinder Ravi Voted Out, who’s next? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Jatayu

that was my thinking initially. later i realised that these young boys and girls will not only be singing from behind a radio or as playbacks. They themselves will become stars in their own right. and for that they'll need to perform.

That is not to say that singing is not important. As an example, Naseeruddin Shah or Om Puri are better actors that Amitabh Bachchan. But B is THE star. Because of his total presence.

Similarly..............

i cudnt have put it better . well said .👏 talent will get u no where close to being a star unless u have the charisma.
im sure there r hundereds of talented ppl across the country who will naver become a star cos they dont connect with the janta

Originally posted by: panny85

see i disagree with that. especially when it comes to singing. i feel like it's ok when it comes to acting to be a total performer since everyone is going to be looking at you most of the time obviously. and i dont think om puri is necessarily a better actor than amitabh. they're all good in their own ways. def om puri doesnt have the presence but still. anyways i feel like when it comes to singing, it should only be based on the sole singing talent and nothing else.

OK. I respect your views.

However, just for the sake of dicussion, take the case of western artists. Earlier they used to sing on stages. GREAT artists, real great singing but no performance eg Beatles, Pink Floyd, Eagles, Bee Gees .......

Then see the trend. This type of stage performances were gradually replaced by Michael Jackson's dance-cum-song, Madonna with her histrionics, Britney with her show of the female anatomy.

SET is trying to follow that trend (well of course not the Britney but the rest)

Singing is OF COURSE important. It is paramount (my reason for not being a Qazi supporter). But these additional frills are also becomong important.

oh definitely i agree there that additional frills (hte X factor) is becoming very important. i just think it's sad that all those talented people out there.. not all of them can exactly be a "star" whatever the definition of star is. so what can they do? apparantly the janta wants just more than the singing talent. i just think it's sad

Originally posted by: panny85

oh definitely i agree there that additional frills (hte X factor) is becoming very important. i just think it's sad that all those talented people out there.. not all of them can exactly be a "star" whatever the definition of star is. so what can they do? apparantly the janta wants just more than the singing talent. i just think it's sad

I think it does not matter what junta want. Sorry to sound cynical but what is important is what SELLS.

MONEY.

Another example: Rahul Dravid has got MUCH better overall figures that Sachin. But Sachin wil ALWAYS be the star.

But it's not all a lost cause. The REAL good ones WILL rise. Only, the competition is much much more. Have faith pany85. There is place for pure talent. But that talent has to find it's proper forum where pople will pay good money. Ya back to money again. Sorry.

who say mona outclasses others with her all combination factors?with one last example mona can never be put ahead of arijit .
Infact arijit is a perfrct example of all factors.

How many times mona dared to attempt any difficult song?
hardly once or twice and ppl are putting mona ahead of arijit .Its really sad.

All improved with their own pace ,but i guess all of them also realizes how important performance is along with singing.
If performance is a barometer then also arijit stays up on the top.

Sorry to go on and on about it but just thought of another thing to add to this

As an example of where only talent, no performance, also sells is Ghulam Ali the Ghazal singer

Originally posted by: shimmeryf

If performance is a barometer then also arijit stays up on the top.

If he really is THAT good, then why was he voted out by judges, faculty, contestants AND junta?

Originally posted by: panny85

oh definitely i agree there that additional frills (hte X factor) is becoming very important. i just think it's sad that all those talented people out there.. not all of them can exactly be a "star" whatever the definition of star is. so what can they do? apparantly the janta wants just more than the singing talent. i just think it's sad

No its not sad.Just like singing performing is also an art and you cannot degrade a performer.the taste of the public has changed.people do not want kundan lal sehgal (with due respect to him) today.They want a performer.They don't want to listen with their eyes closed,they want to hear and watch.we have enough of play back singer.india is full of talented singers but how many stars like Qazi do we have,that is why SRGMP is making its singers perform altho the performance is pathetic but still they r trying.

in an art there is no mathematical formula to prove that one is better than other.For me Qazi is as talented as any other singer today because his singing and performance is what I enjoy.I don't care if he had a training or not.

jatayau u r getting in to another debate altogether
FG was not a talent hunt
we all know it.
how many good singers left early bcoz of the drama indian janta craved for ,we all know .

Mona is good but i just wished to say that since she has "PERFORMED " well once or twice ,u cannot put her on the top at this moment in this competition only.

ani11 why do u bring qazi in discussion ?
he is winner and not a part of this competition.
we are discussing the current contestants and now they are no less than others.They all are really good at performances also .i hope u have observed it .