Originally posted by: fieldmouse2004
why is arrogance only associated with arpita? her arrogance seems to be derived from two factors, her being proud about being musically trained, and her displeasure with qazis performance
You forgot her general "I'm better than you" attitude - which has been constantly directed to the other contestants.
Originally posted by: fieldmouse2004
as far as the latter of the factors is concerned, that is an example of her honestly, and her commitment to fairness. she always says what she feels, and for that she is targeted- i dont understand it so would u ppl rather that she be fake, and that she suck up to qazi etc- inadverdently playing politics and mind games. in fact her dissuport of qazi, marks that she plays no politics, for she nos that hes juntas favourite (and that the fame jodi would be eventually chosen by the public)- faking being nice to him, could have won her a lot of support (which it has for rooprekha btw), but she didnt- and that is because of her strong sense of honesty and integrity, so in no way can u call her arrogant or a politician.
Hey, it's not only 'us' calling her arrogant - heck, even her colleagues including Rex think so.
Where did honesty and integrity go when she complained about Ruprekha to the faculty yet said that everything was cool to Ruprekha?
Where's the integrity in always crying and complaining when she's not the top student - even though the other contestant was genuinely better than her in that round?
Originally posted by: fieldmouse2004
the other factor, that deems her arrogant is her proudness of being classicaly trained. hoenstly speaking whats wrong with that, yes she has been classically trained, and so she has a right to state it. why because this shows that unlike most of the oether contestants (who just started singing recently), she has been working hard on her singing from a very long time. she started traing when she was4- therefore that is 19 years of training that she has had, meaning that she has worked hard, to improve and strengthen her music for 19 years. then shouldnt she have the right to say that she has been classically trained. whears look at qazi (no offence to anyone), he has just started singinbg recently, and he wanted to be an actor- he could not have put in as much collective effort as she did. so her being trained is in fact a very significant point and hence u cant contest her on that..
Just because she has put 19 years into this does not mean that the untrained singers have not put anything into it either. It just goes to show that untapped talent can withstand and/or surpass trained talent if given a chance. It goes to show that with hard work, one can achieve in a few weeks what others have taken many years to achieve.
Originally posted by: fieldmouse2004
secondly why dont people see qazi and rooprekha as arrogant. as far as i rember (and as people seem to hve forgotten), rooprekha was known as natchari and in fact had the most fights with qazi. she also confidently asserts that her singing is the best, and better than arpita when queried. then why is arpita only seen as arrogant.
and as far as qazi is concerned- correct me if i am wrong- but did he not go on record to say that he was born beautiful. is that not arrogance? and did he not say that he was better than abhijeet sawant. again was than not arrogance (plus with due consideraation, qazi would not have lasted very long in indian idol, as the judges were more brash there, and plus since the singers there were not trained. the only reason that qazi has imporved is because he is being cinstantly trained at gurukul;. whears abhijeet sawant was not. based on that evaluation, qazi would not have loasted very long in indian idol, so hoiw can he say that he is a better singer than abhijeet sawant. is that not arrogance?)
but never mind, fine i am willing to accept that that is qazis honest opinion and respect that and dont hold it against him. then why cant others respect arpitas honest opinions, why is she seen as arrogant?.
Even though Qazi may have said this initially, he has definately humbled - see how much he gets scolded by the judges, faculty, and peers - constantly in the danger zone, trying his damn hardest to improve each time and focusing on his quote "Where there's a will there's a way" and "I love challenges" - this is the total opposite of Arpita, who when is in the danger zone or gets criticized goes bawling, still thinking that she should've been the top student or whatever.
Instead of concentrating on herself, she tries to round up others (like Ruprekha, Rex) into forming a 'tag-team' against the weakest link (Qazi). This was definately evident during that episode where she came and sat beside Ruprekha when Ruprekha was eating - she basically tried to get Ruprekha all worked up against Qazi.
Do you see Qazi ever doing that? Nope - instead of going around trying to get people against others, he has the dignity to use the time to improve himself instead.
Same with Ruprekha, she may have been known as nathchadhi, however like Qazi it seems as though she has humbled - although there was the time where she had sunk to Arpita's level after Arijit was voted out, and they went to complain to the faculty.
Originally posted by: fieldmouse2004
i no that oneof the fame jodi is definetely going to be qazi. u dont need a psychic to predict that. there is one more place, so why dont u people, instead of voting for who is nice to qazi and who isnt, vote for he/she who performned the best. for we in fact the judges of this competition and we have to be fair. so a vote given to someone because they are nicer to qazi, rather than on their singing ability, should in effect be seen as unfair right and hence a 'lie'. contributing to your negative karma- (leading on to the claims of 'what goes around comes around' that seem to be hounding this forum) so by voting for someone because u personally like them or their attitutude, u are making an unfair jugement and in the extremist sence even sinning (or rather adding on negative karma)- so then in effect isnt that wrong.
Don't try and put others on a guilt trip because they don't appreciate your favourite contestant. There are many different aspects of a performer that different people admire - however at least for me, a singer can be as great as Kumar Sanu or Mohammed Rafi, however if they constantly walk around with a holier-than-thou attitude - I would not like them at all.
Performance (again for me at least) consists of all-round character/personality as well as talent. I'm sure there are others that look for the same in a performer. If Sonu Nigam was a prick, I don't think many would like him, no matter how well he sings.
Don't bring Karma and all this into the argument - you sound very desperate and ignorant trying to get others to consider your favourite contestant. Don't be foolish.
Originally posted by: fieldmouse2004
for u are meant to judge on how well they sing and perform not their opinions.
No, we are ENTITLED to judge on the total package. BTW, since when did you set the specifications on what we're allowed to judge in a contestant?
Originally posted by: fieldmouse2004
i feel really bad for arpita, because firstly she nos that no matter how well she performs, no matter how fantastic her perormance may be- she will not be voted in by the audience. even is she was the best, and everyine says it - she wont be voted in because the audience dislikes her. is that fair considering that she should be voted for/againat depening on her singing talent..
I feel bad for her too because if she dropped the attitude and humbled herself like Ruprekha and Qazi, she would definately be the female janta-ki-jaan. She has the talent, but the packaging needs major improvement.
Originally posted by: fieldmouse2004
so how aboit when u vote now, instead of voting the one with the sweetest disposition, or the one nicest to qazi, u vote for the one who performed the best or worked the hardest. for u may not realise it, but u are shaping destinies right now and the fate of someones entire future could depend on u.
I think instead of you telling us how to vote and who to vote for, we'll vote for the person who we think is an all-round top notch person - both personality-wise & performance-wise.
BTW, quick question - are you by any chance Arpita or someone closely related? Her mother maybe? No offense but you sound extremely desperate to change others opinions.
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