Dharmakshetra :) - Page 108

Originally posted by: Urmila11

Well, I saw the list on page 130, so what should the Vyasas do in this new version of MB? Are they allowed to take infinite creative liberties 😈

No I guess. Whatever we should write must have at least an indirect mention in the epic. We cannot take creative freedom to that extent I guess.

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

I agree Jamy Parashuram's curse to Karna does seem to be an interpolation since karna is able to recall Brahamastra in is final duel with Arjuna but there are few other possibilities as per me

1)The curse is an interpolation.But yet it is mentioned in different parvas so there is consistency in these mentions.So if it is an interpolation whoever has added it has done a good job of keeping it consistent

2)The curse is actually true but Karna wasn't cursed regarding brahamastra but Brahamshira.That would explain why Karna was able to recall Brahamastra and would make karna the only person other than Ashwathama and Arjuna who had Brahamshira

3)The curse is actually true and somehow Karna was powerful enough to overcome it .It would explain the following line in the duel when karna recalls the Brahamastra

Trembling at the shock, Karna then displayed his activity to the utmost of his power. Steadying himself by a powerful effort he invoked the brahmastra

It could also be that karna does something that requires a lot of power to recall Brahamastra hence overcoming the curse

1. Curse story is mentioned twice, but narration of events is different. So it must be an interpolation.
2. According to the story Karna was cursed for Brahmastra only, not B Shira / B Danda. Brahmastra's name is clearly mentioned in CE.
3. If Karna was powerful enough to overcome a curse, which Krishna himself could not do, why are we not praying Karna instead of Krishna?
4. Scientifically, Karna, before his death shows all symptoms of profuse loss of body fluids, in which a main symptom is mental confusions/giddiness which can be overcome (at keast for some time) by a highly healthy individual like Karna. I know medical statistics does not agree with me mostly. But there are always exceptions for everything is also a fact widely accepted. So this curse story is a creation of someone who did not understand the science & it might have been added for one more reason.

Gotta say this here. 😆

^^^Sure maate... Kunti is all yours from this minute.😉 par meri maa ko dukh mat dena, plz...

Originally posted by: AnuMP

Gotta say this here.😆

At least we attempt to read and argue our points. Over the last couple of days I saw a few people who actually said 'no I haven't read any of this, but I know what's in it anyway'😲😆And I was told that the written word is useless😲😆

And one of my colleagues actually called KMG and Bibek Debroy stupid people who don't know what's really in the texts🤣. But of course, they haven't read it and they know it anyway😆

I never knew people could be proud of their own ignorance.

This ignorance is wat I have been whining about in every thread...
Most people who talk about Mahabharat do so with wat they have 'heard' from grandmas n aunts...n they proudly claim stuff without knowing wat's in the text...In a way, I am grateful to Sidhharth Tewary coz it's bcoz of him, I started makinh an effort to know the text, n my misconception on Mahabharat got cleared...

My friend n I were discussing that most people know the folktales n rumours more than the actual facts...

Anu...I am pretty sure ur scholarly colleagues were referring to facts related to Draupadi... 😉

^^^Right. Had I not read actual book, my thoughts on Karna would never have changed.😃

Originally posted by: Brahmaputra

^^^Sure maate... Kunti is all yours from this minute.😉 par meri maa ko dukh mat dena, plz...

Originally posted by: Brahmaputra

^^^Right. Had I not read actual book, my thoughts on Karna would never have changed.😃

Mine too but in a negative way... 😭
Before I loved Karna to the core n even cried for him... 😭
Now I am totally confused...

so, the writing has began it seems.