Is Veera Actually 100% Wrong On Whatever Mess Has Occurred So Far ?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Finally back to forum after ages - Thanks to my busy university schedule - The quiz, assignments & so on that i don't have single bit of time to come to forum ... But today was very much necessary

Before saying anything in my really long essay - Wanna tell that Call me a Veera Bhakt, Veera's lawyer, Veera's Defender, Veera's Dadima, Veera's bhoot sawar in my body, Veera's Keedha inside me & blah blah - So on & so forth - I don't care & won't even feel offended

And before explaining things - Let me throw in many Veera's fault - Can say her pagalpanti, her insensitivity, her pure insanity, impulsiveness, childish nature & blah blah ... Yes - Veera was & is definitely wrong - The slap & those insensitive & much disgusting words & taunts that she threw at Baldev face straight away without thinking - Gunda, Tu Mere Layak Nahi Hai, Tu Kisi ko Khush Nahi Rakh Sakta, Tu Rishton Ko Nibhana Nahi Jaanda & all sorts of crappy shits ++ Her so called dumb brain when it comes to Baldev, her so called Miss-I-Know-It-All Attitude, Her King Size & Mahaan Ego & Her VeerJi obsession - This was no need at all by her side . This was totally crap & stupid & definitely wrong in her part ... But good in a way that before marriage she said all this - Now she's is Tadaping & Bhuktofying all her kaands na - Inside her she is completely broken & is not having peace at all & that's why she wants to run away from all this mess ... And I seriously wanted to hit her on head & give her one tight slap so that she gains back the "Aqal" which her so called Family couldn't give her

** So Now to the main point - Back to the title - Is Veera actually 100% at fault on whatever the mess has occurred in her & Baldev's relationship? ... I would say NO ... I would say she is 25%-30% wrong but for Veera haters I'll put it in 40%-50% ... I would go for the 1st option ... The reasons are as follows

1. The picture is so clear that there is absolutely no one to guide Veera and to tell her of what is right & what is wrong. No one told her that what she did to Baldev was absolutely wrong - The slap & those disgusting wordings ... This is why Veera is this way - Way to egoistic & has the superiority complex & high head kind of girl - Coz she got everything damn easily ... Parents da farz is to guide & tell their child of which direction to go after they create the mess - No matter how old is their kid- Be it 22 or whatever - They need guidance

2. She doesn't realize her mistakes coz no one is there to make her understand and no one is there to point out & correct her faults ... Those hypocrites SS family - Ratan, ChaiJi & yesterday even Nihal ... Ranvi & Gunjan shouldn't be mentioned coz these two are more than gone case ... Veera initiates 2 steps to try to sort things out with Baldev - but eventually doing the same mistake again & again she keeps falling back 4 steps & doesn't even understand how her plans backfires. There is no one to pull Veera back from the fall but instead her So-Call Family let her keep falling - Like my friend told me the love for Veera by SS family is freaking shallow.

3 If we see the picture carefully once again, then I would say Veera is all alone. During RG time - Every single person was there & taking all the efforts to unite them ... Ratan, ChaiJi + VeeBa played all kind of roles to unite RG ... Then what has happened now - Those hypocrites SS family took a U-turn ... No one did asked Veera what actually happened & what did she do that Baldev has said yes to marriage in anger ... Did those hypocrites try to have a word with Baldev ... Did those hypocrites try to samjhaofy Veera that she should talk with Baldev & encourage her to reconcile stuffs with Baldev BIG NO ... When things come on Ranvi - Everyone is on laadla Beta, Ghar Ki Izzat & all crap ... But when Veera tried something a little for her own happiness no one is giving a damn care to her - All Ratan did yesterday - Went to complaint Ranvi & Nihal - Talked all crap - Which was Truly Unexpected. Gunjan's all kaands was easily forgiven by Ratan, ChaiJi & Ranvi - Be it insulting fiasco, Vanity van & after 1st marriage fiasco, Ranvi's birthday fiasco - All coz of Ranvi ... And now when the tine for someone to stand up for Veera - Everyone is ignoring her & her doings

4. In a way is Good that Veera left everything to God - Poor she - Bechari what is left in her hand when her own Mahaan & Hypocrite family is Influencing & Mentally Emotional Blackmailing her. Will who she can share her sorrows - Will anyone understand of what's burning inside her? - BIG NO again ... During RG time did ChaiJi ever told Ranvi or Gunjan that leav everything to God - NO ... But when she so called explaining to Veera, ChaiJi reminded about Ghar ki Izzzat & leave everything to God. The Gyaani Ji / Granthi Ji of Gurdwara scene said it all yesterday about marriage & relationship - At least the priest knocked some sense in her head - Coz nobody in SS family would ever do that ... If the priest doesn't put some Aqal in Veera's head - Who would do the honors? And now I'm sure - With those words of Gyaani Ji / Granthi Ji , Veera will chose Baldev over Ranvi & this is where she will correct her mistakes. And that it why the Gurdwara scene has touched me so much. The moment Veera wants to sort things out with Baldev, someone or the other just brainwashes her brain & BAM - Back to having the egoistic & confused attitude - Brains gone

5. The very first thing is why didn't Veera have the guts to reveal to SS family of whatever she did with Baldev - The main question is did Ratan & ChaiJi even try to dig deep of the problem like they did during RG time - BIG NO ... Her so called family didn't even bother to check ki what has actually happened & exactly kya hua - Haan Haan - Rishta toot gaya so toot gaya - Now Baithe Ke Rovo ... Veera didn't took the himmat to tell her own family the truth of what she did with Baldev & the hypocrites are densed as always - Andar ki baat they can never know - Be it about Gunjan or Veera ... But now Veera has got the guts to dance in Baldev's Haldi - Phir bhi nobody is pointing out at her - LIMITS ... And the jealousy game with Rajveer - Sigh not needed but again - Doesn't have brains & superior complexity - Filhal toh she doesn't know who the real Rajveer is but Jab she will learn about it - Apne Aap Mein Sabak Mil Jayega ... So everyone in SS family is controlling & playing with her life - Intentionally OR Unintentionally - In mentally kind of way - And this why she has lost the sense of thinking & doing ult patang harkate and she doesn't know where to go.

6. No doubt in saying that Veera loves Baldev - But she fails to express tremendously or her love is never seen in depth ... Thanks for the people around her who has controlled her mind, her egoistic attitude & her VeerJi obsession that she cannot stand up for Baldev & gives more priority to the Mahaan family for obvious reasons ... So the real person who can bring Veera down to earth is Bansuri - She will indirectly rectify Veera's flaws in her own style & taunts ... Like one of my friend said - SS family only loves Veera when it comes to Ranvi, but the rest of the time - the treatment is shown like "Kaun Hai Veera?"

** Phew - Freaking long - But do read & try to think that are we actually going right to blame Veera all alone - Saare Fasad Ki Jhar Toh SS family & Mahaan Banda Ranvi Hai ... Never seen any fandom before to bash the female lead in such an extreme way & seeing on this on the forum for the first time as if Veera has murdered Baldev & few people calling her with what sort of names that I don't want to mention here coz it's disgusting for me to say it out loud. So basically looking at a wide view - Veera is trapped at the wrong place - Let me see - who doesn't go against her when she will take the step of marrying Baldev

*** Also if I don't come back to comment for few days - Doesn't mean that I ran away with what I wrote - Since my exams are approaching in less than 10 days & even having my Spanish exam 2mrw - I won't be able to be online coz not enough time at all - But will deffo read all the comments after 10th Dec - Tab tak toh VeeBa ki Shaadi bhi Ho Jayegi ... Newaz - I know that it's a long post - Anyone who is disinterested can yawn away & go - But Fandoms here who have a lil time to read & think in 1% bit - Plz do na kha !!!





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Posted: 10 years ago
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Superb post and hats off to your guts. I have stopped watching the show since the break up and just by reading the post of all friends in the forum I am in line with the story. I agree with your post. I have been thinking in the same way, but honestly I didn't had the guts to make a post like this and since I am not watching the show recently, I cared a damm. I really felt bad for both VeeBa on the scene when both were fearing losing their love and came running to talk to each other. I know it was for the sake of drama only, but let us put ourselves in he shoes of VeeBa for a while and think why the hell Bansuri had to come at that very moment with the invitation cards? Baldev found himself in a no man's land and after the tauntings of Bansuri their respective egos took over. You are dead right in your analysis there is no one to tell Veera what is right and what is wrong, the entire family has always been concerned about Ranvee's happiness only. I remember the Ranvi birthday part when despite being at the minimal fault everybody made her realize she was the main culprit and she had to apologize to Gunjan. Nihal was the last hope, but as many friends have been saying even his character is also been butchered yesterday. I am not for once saying Veera was right, yes she was wrong, but Baldev too repeated his mistake. Even after what had happened in the dandiya party why did he instantly said yes for Simo, without thinking with a cool head. Why did he never told Veera exactly what had happened in the football match. He has always felt insecured after Rv entered the scene, but al least for me he never tried to explain it properly to Veera why is he feeling so insecure. He knows RV is trying to encash on the hatred that Ranvee bears for him, at least in front of him RV has never kept two faces, because he knows he can easily manipulate Ranvee, who in turn can easily manipulate Veera. That is what has happened, RV made the entire scene look to Ranvee as if Baldev was behind it and he made Veera believe it was true. Veera's biggest problem is her Veerji obsession and that is why she never thought twice before bashing Baldev. I remember during Ranvee's birth day the entire forum was actually divide into two fan groups and we almost had a fan war, where one group was blaming Veera nad the other group was blaming Gunjan, when the real culprit was Ranvee. Here also he is the main culprit and some poeple are balming Veera and others are defending her and I know again Ranvee will get away, as for him even the dirtiest slang I had ever learned in my life is too small. Every one is suffering for him only, but still he will go unpunished and unblamed.

All the best for your exams and thanks for giving me the courage to make this post.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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👏👏👏
You spoke up my mind😎

Point 6 is highlight of all👍🏼
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice post..not commenting about what veera has dobe till now and what she is going to do in the upcoming episodes..but wanted to say one thing..as u said, no one in the SS family gives a mental support to veera other than just confusing her what is right n what ia wrong..from deeper inside she truely loves baldev and wanted to be with him..but the outer egoistic and i'm-always-right attitudewala mind is not allowing her to sort out the problems between them..also the family members who have seen the real love of baldev towards veera,are keeping quiet even though they know the fact that baldev has taken the marriage decision in anger..they will be repeating that but still they won't try to talk with him or let veera talk to him and suggest her to apologise..im a recent episode chaiji said that "may be this is god's decision and we should leave everything upon god".. Is it??? If we tried a lot, still nothing worked, then people will say leave everything upon god..but here everything is just opposite for them when it comes to veera 's life..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Good move team veera was waiting for this post since last night 😊
Well veera is not a toddler or teenager that she needs some1 to guide her that she's wrong, did she need guidance when she accused baldev and trusted a stranger, when baldev tried to guide her that rv is a wrong person she should stay away she thought he's just jealous.

Ppl as egoistic as her even if they get the so called guidance won't change their point of views.
Baldev has never got any love or proper upbringing still without guidance he's mature enough to accept his mistakes and apologize and if veera has no guidance and her nonsense is justified then i would say even gunjan had ni guidance and her mother even pressurized her so the casting couch her faking love with r and her gambling stealing is justified too.
Bcoz gunjan has no1 to guide her too😊
Edited by overactor - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Even a 1000 pg thesis on her bechari ness cannot justify her😵
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Veera has lived in delhi for 15 years away from ss parivar she didn't gain any values there too? She is the one at fault and now she won't even apologize but become mahan by exposing simo🥱
If she's such a bechari she can stay with her psycho family and marry psycho rajveer who would agree to become their sweeper
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice post Sukh. I get your POV but sadly I do not share it. No doubt that Veera hardly gets any support from the SS family for her relationship with Baldev, but she is an adult now so in my POV she holds at least 70-75% of the blame. Just to be clear, I also blame the other 3 leads the most for their faults rather than their families or their upbringing (ex: Baldev's vellagiri, Gujan's kaands, Ranvi's numerous faults etc).

Veera's family did not make her go to Baldev and slap him and tell him all that rubbish. Baldev was her intended life partner so just because her God-like Veerji and her kal ka aya hua dost RV suspected him did not mean that she needed to side with them too.

The issue was not that her Veerji said that Baldev must be the actual culprit, the issue was that she suspected and distrusted Baldev at the first chance she got. She saw it for herself that her Veerji was making his judgment based on RV's evidence and suspicions and not because he actually witnessed Baldev framing him, so why didn't she consider that her Veerji's opinion could be wrong? She has disagreed with him on his opinions before na (most recently about the NiRa thing), so what was the problem this time? The problem was her lack of genuine trust in Baldev to begin with and not what her mahaan family thought of Baldev or their lack of active support to her relationship with Baldev.

The biggest problem is how unrealistically she and the other characters have been written. Anyone in real life with Veera's smarts, ego and obsession with a family member, would have supplied at least one genuine heartfelt apology for their actions so far, but Veera hasn't and instead she wasted all of her time enacting childishly embarrassing tricks. There is no good reason for this apart from the ridiculousness of the writers. If she got that Baldev had decided to marry Simmo out of anger then why was her first instinct not to apologise to him and make amends but rather to enact thakela plans to delay the wedding. I mean W*F!😳 I don't even kid when I say that I find SNS way more logical than this show coz at least the characters and tracks there are consistent in their craziness.🤪😆

Now I personally don't like it when ppl use very offensive words for Veera but I totally get why they hate her so much, the writers have made her very unsympathetic and difficult to relate with her.🥱 I doubt Bansuri's taunts would ever go through to her. The writers are gonna keep her and her entire family obnoxious forever. Agar inhe sudhar na hota toh kabka sudhar jaatey.🥱

P.S. Good luck for you exams.🤗


Edited by ...-Riya-... - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Excellent post👍🏼

i did not look at the situation this way until i read ur post...now that i did, i think u r totally correct...
i mean its true that Veera is egoistical, self centred mostly and more than anything Veer ji obsessed..but she is like that because she has been that way since she was a kid and was never set correct..if we think about it, it was all 'Veer ji'-Veerji' for even then and none among the SS family cared for her like the way they'd have done for her if she were the legitimate child of the family, except one person-Ranvi
so far she has only seen/experienced/lived with them and no one else..her formative years at the hostel don't count because she lived alone then and not in a family set up..
so SS family have been the guiding force for her in every action of hers until now and then there's the matter of being an adopted child..she must be feeling obligated to them, her sense of gratitude is so strong that she can never think of going against them, particularly her brother...
knowingly or unknowingly she compares Baldev and her relationship to that of her bro and sis in law and finds little or no similarities..she must have expected Baldev to behave just like Ranvi, when a fight arose bw two of them...thats why she kept expecting him to come forward and say sorry, when she clearly knew that it was HER fault and not his..
In each of our lives, we have a role model-probably one's mother or father or a sibling- and we usually follow them, react just like them and even think like them..
We can say that, until Ranvi got married, Veera was the center of the universe for him and in turn she followed him like a loyal pet, protecting him, following him and consulting him in almost every matter...but then, Gunjan came into the scene and suddenly Veera wasn't the center of the universe for Ranvi but a mere sister..it was easy for him to change sides because he has had the guidance of elders, almost everyone was ready with an advice for him as to how to handle a marriage..but like u have said, Veera is left to fend for herself when a similar situation came into her life..so to cut the long story short, its not entirely Veera's fault that she did what she did, but her upbringing, largely her family is at fault..
the Gurdwara scene struck a chord with me because she placed her beloved's happiness above everything else, sacrificing love for love's own sake..😭 and that takes a lot to do

And, Good luck for all your exams🤗😳

Edited by ..IshqShava.. - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@sukhmani awesome post!kudos to ur guts! I've also made a post on veera's andha pyaar for her veerji.I agree with u.I always felt that veera is used by SS family,when rockstar track was on.I clearly noticed when veera was having a accident,ratan was worried for her puttar,nt for veera.And thats why i've 1ce mentioned my doubt on ratan,after ranvi rejected baldev,whether she'l take veera's side or nt.And she proved me ri8 yesterday.I feel seriously,both baldev,veera r used by their families,whether SS family for poly,kv,rockstar stuff,or by bansuri for sarpanch post,and nw also she's forcing her like on baldev,by cashing out the current situation,which r completely against veera.I've noticed this forum is full of baldev fandom.No offence to anyone,i m just expressing my views just like baldev fans express,i m nt forcing this to anyone.Thats why i gave kudos to this post.Right frm start i m supporting veera,iss chakkar me view clash bhi ho chuke hai,in which i've back off alwys to avoid heat up.I m deeply nd really connected to veera.Her thoughts,her concern for her family.Ranvi,ratan accepted her,educated her uska ehsaan mana usne.Isliye i got connected.My heart used to cry when she cried alwys.I was supporting her till football match.Bt jo kuch bhi baad me hua,i m really angry on her,kya kuch nh keh rahi hu main usse mein,bahut kuch.Bcoz i've really nt expected this behaviour frm her.Mujhe bas use yahi problem ki wo apne veerji k pyaar me andhi hai,aur baki sabko galat samajh rahi hai.Upar se dhang se baat karne ki bajaye she's behaving al insane.I m irritated due to her behaviour,nt to her.Maine aaj tak uske khilaf ek word nh bola,bt ab khud bol rahi hu,bcoz she's really wrong ri8 nw. Veera ne achhe kaam kiye ab tk bt maine kabhi tarif nh ki,baldev fans will bash me nw veera ne kya kam kiye?Bcoz apno ki ziada tarif karke unko ziada chadana nh hai,wo zameen par he rahe to achhe. Ulta alwys criticized her.Uska sath diya maine ab tak,umeed bhi rakhi usse,bt ab pani sar se upar chala gaya hai,uski galtiyon ka main aur sath nh de sakti,nd isliye chahti hu,ki usko apni mistake realize ho,kaun galat hai aur kaun sahi ye dekhe,aur jiske sath usne galat kiya hai usse maafi mangey.Though i m unable to see her like that,par ye usiki bhalai ki khatir hai. Baldev fans will say nw ki ye idhar se udhar jaa rahi hai. Kabhi veera k khilaf to kabhi usika side leti hai. Nt like that. I just want ki veera sudhar jaye,aur is ke liye use galiyaan bhi deni pade to m ready. Yes rv k sath flirt karte dekh,i was boiling. I didn't like that behaviour. I've mentioned ki agar veera meri sis hoti,to i've definitely slapped her for this. Veera is padhi likhi ganwar yes uski aankhon par veerji ki patti chadi hui hai isliye. Yeh baat maine kal bhi boli thh

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