Baldev's Self Destruction, Road to Redemption - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great post Mandy! 😃 I agree that baldev does not need to apologize to veera after what she did to him. Something big and serious needs to happen which will finally make baldev realize that he is very gullible and needs to have a mind of his own.

Only then can he be back on the right track while continuing to be the focused, determined guy that he is. 😊

As this goes on, veera will eventually be shown being redeemed by finally starting to truly understand baldev.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ElireEli


Yeah it does seem improbable that Veera will ever fall in love with him. But Veera had seen his mean side since childhood. Since childhood Baldev had always tried to create problems in their lives. See if you recollect the MKC days, he was a bit mean. he used to bully people for his own advantage, he tried to spike Veera's lassi so that she is insulted in front of the whole pind. So meanness was there, but there was also a soft side to him which we loved. As Vishal had himself pointed out in his tweet he had turned from grey to white to black. So it started with grey shades in the beginning then we got to see the good nature of his and now his evilness is back. But rest assured this will die soon. It is only that now he is hurt and insulted and hence his worst is coming to the fore but his soft inner side is still present inside him. See even in the election track, when Ranvi had not disclosed that his friends had attacked him, he had begun reflecting on all his actions. But that died soon because he was manipulated by his mother to believe that Ranvi was doing it to gain sympathy. So redemption will surely happen. How Veera will fall in love is a big question. But consider this inspite of knowing of all the mean things he did since childhood she had begun to get attracted towards him when she saw the real side of him, but since she is egoist and believed that Baldev is worthless, she dismissed those feelings. She needs to again witness that real side of him for her to fall for him. But that will take time. See when you fall in love you have to accept all the bad along with the good qualities in that person. So it is needed that Veera gets to know all that is wrong in him and only when she knows him too well will her love for him will have a strong foundation. Karan was a different case. He was selfish. Here Baldev had been wronged, not intentionally though. Think about the love and care he never got from his father, he loved Veera but she unintetionally played with his feeling and finally he lost his dream post. According to him when he was white nobody cared a fig for him so why not turn black and take his revenge. I am not defending him but I guess it was natural for him to react in this manner. I know it is annoying to see Veera always being proved right. I myself feel like slapping her. I believe that something might happen when Baldev will himself realize the repercussion of his actions and will regret it. I too want Veera to witness that change and get to know the real side of him. Veera has yet to understand Baldev completely. Baldev has a better understanding of her pain but she has a long way to go to realize how much this post was important for him. Had she understood him she would not have thought that she never excpected him to become sentimental. Redemption will surely happen and Veeba will be the end game. Just wait and watch


Veeba are end game. There is no doubt about that. But the show's name is "Veera". So she'll always be shown winning. I don't feel like slapping her at all. She is the only well written character in the show. But its mostly at the expense of other characters. I realized this when I saw the scene where Veera spoke up for Ratan yesterday. Let's forget Ratan's hypocrisy for once. I absolutely adored her coz she was shown to be an iron lady. She has silenced the Pind even before. Why did she need Veera's help yesterday?? They could have made Ranvi speak up for Ratan as well coz he isn't an MCP. But he was only a spectator only because Veera is the central character.
Again Ratan has handled more tricky situations pre leap. SO why does she need Veera's last minute brilliance to tackle the upcoming problems?? That's further character butchering of Ratan

Now Ranvi. He was my favourite character pre leap. But post leap he needs Veera at every baby step. He is made spineless to show that Veera can guide him in everything. Ranvi doing things for Veera has completely vanished from the show. Ofcourse he was also butchered for Gunjan, not just Veera 😆

Veera played the most important part in Gunjan's redemption. It should have been Ranvi, right?? But this is Veera's show. She'll do everything here😆

Baldev was also a strong character. One with gray shades and he should have remained that way. But now he is made a villain to show that Veera will eventually bring him on the right path. And she will be shown winning always coz its her show. I like love stories where male and female leads win battles equally. In the sense both should be flawed. Otherwise there's no excitement in the story.
Baldev is also selfish like Karan. He is doing everything for the Sarpanch post and to boost his ego. Karan's affection for people was never shown coz he was a side character. But he saved Gunjan, respected Veera's family. He just committed one mistake. 🤔 Baldev is committing even more mistakes.
There is no place for strong characterizations like Ranvi and Ratan's pre leap characterization and Baldev's gray shaded characterizaion during the initial days. Ranvi and Ratan's characters are butchered shoowing them in a positive light. Likewise Baldev and Gunjan's characterizations are butchered showing them in negative light. A hero like Baldev and a couple like Veeba are misfits in a show where the central character is the most important. It should have been in a show where male and female leads are equally important. Eventually Veera would be the saviour for everyone. After they fall in love, Baldev will be turned spineless like Ranvi. I am not looking forward to that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Agree they are glorifying the central character at the expense of others😕 I earnestly hope that Baldev doesn't turn spineless after they fall in love😕 Coz then all my optimism will go down the drains and I too will lose interest in their love story. 🥺 Just hoping for the best and will still watch out for the redemption track just for Vishal.
Edited by ElireEli - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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^^ Actually this is something which happens in most shows on Indian Telly😆 The female lead is almost always glorified at the cost of the male lead..If the female lead commits a mistake, the male lead is made to commit a bigger mistake to nullify the effect and make sure the sympathy is always with the female lead..I have always had a huge problem with this trend but i guess nothing can be done..Am not gonna take names but there is this show i was watching back then where the female lead was downright irresponsible & impulsive..Right when you think she is annoying and feel sorry for the male lead, the writers will make him do something obnoxious and eventually all the concern is shifted to the female lead..I'l forever wait for that one show where the leads are shown as equals and one is not butchered to glorify the other😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ElireEli

Agree they are glorifying the central character at the expense of others😕 I earnestly hope that Baldev doesn't turn spineless after they fall in love😕 Coz then all my optimism will go down the drains and I too will lose interest in their love story. 🥺 Just hoping for the best and will still watch out for the redemption track just for Vishal.

Hopefully is all I can say.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks

^^ Actually this is something which happens in most shows on Indian Telly😆 The female lead is almost always glorified at the cost of the male lead..If the female lead commits a mistake, the male lead is made to commit a bigger mistake to nullify the effect and make sure the sympathy is always with the female lead..I have always had a huge problem with this trend but i guess nothing can be done..Am not gonna take names but there is this show i was watching back then where the female lead was downright irresponsible & impulsive..Right when you think she is annoying and feel sorry for the male lead, the writers will make him do something obnoxious and eventually all the concern is shifted to the female lead..I'l forever wait for that one show where the leads are shown as equals and one is not butchered to glorify the other😆


It happens in most of the shows on popular channels. I have watched few shows where female leads have been notorious as well😆 Its mostly love stories in which male leads are characterized such that everybody sympathizes with them. But that'll not happen in a show like Veera.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Prii..


It happens in most of the shows on popular channels. I have watched few shows where female leads have been notorious as well😆 Its mostly love stories in which male leads are characterized such that everybody sympathizes with them. But that'll not happen in a show like Veera.



True..I was actually referring to the TRP toppers which mainly comprise of family sagas..Since Veera ain't a love story, its easy for them to butcher Baldev to glorify Veera😆 This is nothing compared to what Gul Khan shows tbh..Her male leads are almost always abusive and misunderstand the female lead only to be proved wrong every single time😆 Upar se she never shows a proper redemption 😆 Take YHM for instance..The male lead is the USP of the show..The best written character by a mile and he is rarely butchered to glorify the female lead..Atleast not till now😆 But then thats Ekta and this is Beyond Dreams😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks



True..I was actually referring to the TRP toppers which mainly comprise of family sagas..Since Veera ain't a love story, its easy for them to butcher Baldev to glorify Veera😆 This is nothing compared to what Gul Khan shows tbh..Her male leads are almost always abusive and misunderstand the female lead only to be proved wrong every single time😆 Upar se she never shows a proper redemption 😆 Take YHM for instance..The male lead is the USP of the show..The best written character by a mile and he is rarely butchered to glorify the female lead..Atleast not till now😆 But then thats Ekta and this is Beyond Dreams😆

LOL yes😆 Gul Khan does the same. I was also referring to Ekta's love stories😆 KYPH, both seasons of KMH characterized their leads as equals. YHM is another gem. But this would be only until remarriages and leaps happen😆
In Veera its not just Baldev, every character has the same fate
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Prii..

LOL yes😆 Gul Khan does the same. I was also referring to Ekta's love stories😆 KYPH, both seasons of KMH characterized their leads as equals. YHM is another gem. But this would be only until remarriages and leaps happen😆
In Veera its not just Baldev, every character has the same fate



Gul Khan is a specialist in butchering the male lead to glorify the female lead😆 Ekta takes the same route too at times..Like say Jodha Akbar..I stopped watching now but back then they always butchered Jalal to make Jodha look mahaan..But unfortunately, every time they attempted to do that, the female lead only came across as self righteous and annoying😆 But yeah, Ekta generally handles love stories well..Atleast the first few months😆 Add Kahin Toh Hoga too..As far as i remember, ppl always felt sorry for Sujal and found Kashish annoying😆 YHM shouldn't be compared to Veera cos that show has a really strong male lead😆

Yeah, the male lead is always the scape goat😆 The worst part is that they regret in no time, fall in love, become spineless and indulge in cringe worthy cheesy romance🤢😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Prii..

I donno where the show is heading. Initially Baldev was a match for Veera. But now he no longer is. I can even take the MCP ness in his characterization that was shown yesterday. I have watched a love story with the same track long time back. But the hero in that show was ultimately the 'hero'. There is no way Veera can see him in a different light now. She isn't going to guide him. In Ranjan's case they were friends. Ranvi played a part in bringing Gunjan back because of the same reason.

But Veeba are enemies and Veera has no feelings for him ( I think the CVs have forgotten that as well)
The way Baldev is going, Veera would become a hypocrite as well when she falls in love coz Baldev has done everything that Karan has done and will commit graver mistakes. So if Baldev can be given a chance Karan could also have been. And it's always Veera winning over Baldev and Baldev being shown in bad light. Its getting monotonous. He should be shown proving himself atleast a few times in the right way. Again Ranjan were friends and this wasn't exactly necessary. Veera is way too smart and Baldev's characterization is no match for her. Having said that I don't watch the show for Veera. So even if they introduce a new lead for her I am least interested.



Veera is obviously not going to fall in love with this version of Baldev but if he were to turn his life around, many would take notice of him for different reasons. Right now he is looked at as the sarpanch son or the bully, but he can't be that way forever especially now that Ratan is sarpanch. There has to be something big that makes Baldev take control of his life and make something of it.

As for them not being friends, very true but they do have the tendency to clash, they have since childhood that is why it is not being ruled out that Veera may indirectly put sense into him.

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