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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: TaaniRocks



Me too 😃 Finally some discussion all i get to see in this forum is just one-sided opinions


Same here !!
Btw, did you see the views on this topic of yours ? It's almost 400 !! 😃 Looks like a lot of people are reading everything silently . 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: VasusenaRadheya


Same here !!
Btw, did you see the views on this topic of yours ? It's almost 400 !! 😃 Looks like a lot of people are reading everything silently . 😉


Hahahahaha they are reading it but no one is saying anything.Must be contemplating what to say in correspondence to their favourite character or refusing to acknowledge it.Oh well 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You just pinned all the blame on Veera for what RanJan couldn't become.

Veera isn't a Ranvi.. who'll chup chaap se suffer through everything. Veera cares about her Veerji and that's why she is doing all this. If she didn't care about him, why would she even step in the whole matter? She dislikes G because of everything that girl has put Ranvi through. If she didn't care about Ranvi, she would have never felt any dislike towards G. I'm gonna be frank here, G is no more the innocent girl who has suffered in her childhood. She has become a vamp.. Ranvi's so called mohabbat isn't going to work magic and bring her back. She needs something really hard thrown at her which will make her realize the things that are in front of her eyes. And in this case Ratan and Veera's behavior towards G, comparison is completely irrelevant! Ratan doesn't know anything about what happened during the casting couch fiasco. Thus making her reaction towards G rather accepting.

Veera's actions influencing RanJan don't exactly change anything. G would have behaved that way towards him anyway.. She doesn't feel frustrated, she feels hatred towards him for her broken dreams and literally blames him for every little bad thing that is happening to her. Because she herself is a weak and petty person to accept her own mistakes. G isn't the one who's suffering, it's Veera who suffered when G shamelessly revealed about Veera not being Ratan's daughter because of her so called revenge, which has got her nothing. Still Veera has overlooked that and rather sees what she has put RANVI through than what G has put HER through. It's not easy to forget your whole family's insult because of a girl twice.

Veera never knew about her family financial problems when she was was going abroad. It was Baldev who told her about everything at the last moment. G was fine to dream about whatever she liked/wished when she was unmarried but she has a family now and is married whether she accepts it or not. G didn't care a penny about what would happen to her family or her in laws, if she ran away with Jagjeet. Her family has already suffered enough humiliation because of her. But still she never cared about them. If her reasoning is her delusional brain or that they never cared back. It's utterly petty. Her father had a heart-attack and she was ready to give him another. She has had enough love, but she is too shallow & negative to ever value it or realize its worth.

The show is called Ek Veer ki Ardaas Veera. And literally everything will connect to Ranveera and that means Veera as well. G is still getting less than what she really deserves. And things like making paranthas and doing housework is causing her to suffer.. I wonder what happens to the women who do that daily and on top of that, have a job to get to.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Tani i do agree with you,'too much of everything will make you sick'..similarly i felt veera is overdoing it today,.my heart went out to gunjan esp when she saw those girls wearing modern outfit and having fun,.obviously for a girl who has always been taught to dress up and njoy her life,its not easy for her to accept the fact that shes married to a village guy who is not educated and doesnt earn lot,its a different thing that our ranvi is one in million,.if we keep ourselves in gunjans place and imagine if we get married to someone who we dont love ,well i cant even imagine marrying someone i dont love let alone spending rest of my life
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..Tamanna

You just pinned all the blame on Veera for what RanJan couldn't become.


Veera isn't a Ranvi.. who'll chup chaap se suffer through everything. Veera cares about her Veerji and that's why she is doing all this. If she didn't care about him, why would she even step in the whole matter? She dislikes G because of everything that girl has put Ranvi through. If she didn't care about Ranvi, she would have never felt any dislike towards G. I'm gonna be frank here, G is no more the innocent girl who has suffered in her childhood. She has become a vamp.. Ranvi's so called mohabbat isn't going to work magic and bring her back. She needs something really hard thrown at her which will make her realize the things that are in front of her eyes. And in this case Ratan and Veera's behavior towards G comparison is completely irrelevant! Ratan doesn't know anything about what happened during the couching cast fiasco. Thus making her reaction towards G rather accepting.

Veera's actions influencing RanJan don't exactly change anything. G would have behaved that way towards him anyway.. She doesn't feel frustrated, she feels hatred towards him for her broken dreams and literally blames him for every little bad thing that is happening to her. Because she herself is a weak and petty person to accept her own mistakes. G isn't the one who's suffering, it's Veera who suffered when G shamelessly revealed about Veera not being Ratan's daughter because of her so called revenge, which has got her nothing. Still Veera has overlooked that and rather sees what she has put RANVI through than what G has put HER through. It's not easy to forget your whole family's insult because of a girl twice.

Veera never knew about her family financial problems when she was was going abroad. It was Baldev who told her about everything at the last moment. G was fine to dream about whatever she liked/wished when she was unmarried but she has a family now and is married whether she accepts it or not. G didn't care a penny about what would happen to her family or her in laws, if she ran away with Jagjeet. Her family has already suffered enough humiliation because of her. But still she never cared about them. If her reasoning is her delusional brain or that they never cared back. It's utterly petty. Her father had a heart-attack and she was ready to give him another. She has had enough love, but she is too shallow & negative to ever value it or realize its worth.

The show is called Ek Veer ki Ardaas Veera. And literally everything will connect to Ranveera and that means Veera as well. G is still getting less than what she really deserves. And things like making paranthas and doing housework is causing her to suffer.. I wonder what happens to the women who do that daily and on top of that, have a job to get to.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#36
First of all...thank you for making the post...I've been waiting for some excitement like this!!!

I think if we look at what Veera's doing from an outsiders prespective, you used the example of a new viewer watching for the first time...this is true...but for all of us who've been watching Gunjans downward spiral...for us it's understandable...not really nice but understandable

Veera's dishing out some medicine it it is super bitter...it sucks to be Gunjan right now...but it could suck waaaY worse...what Veera's doing is child play really...for what Gunjans done to her (the revelation, the disrespect of the fam, her horrible treatment of Ranvi)...she could be far more evil! Gunjans Manoj truth could've been thrown into her face in from of everybody...but Veera held it in...

That's a huge truth...and Gunjan could've been paying for it herself had Rangi not taken the blame or worse if Ranvi hadn't been there! Let's rewind a little further to the whole Jagjeet drama...Gunjan would've been paying horribly if her wedding had gone through...by she didn't get that...


What she's getting now is not torture!!! Not all!! What's she's having are Princess problems...for which I give you all a huge Jaggi sized eye roll for defending her as if she's getting her ishh handed to her...she is going to be fine!!! Veera can chill out...definitely...she doesn't need to be mean...that's what she's doing by the way...she's being mean...it's not enough to shake Gunjan out of her stupor...but it is what it is...I for one am glad that Gunjans getting pushed around a bit!
Edited by sunny303 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: sunny303

First of all...thank you for making the post...I've been waiting for some excitement like this!!!

I think if we look at what Veera's doing from an outsiders prespective, you used the example of a new viewer watching for the first time...this is true...but for all of us who've been watching Gunjans downward spiral...for us it's understandable...not really nice but understandable

Veera's dishing out some medicine it it is super bitter...it sucks to be Gunjan right now...but it could suck waaaY worse...what Veera's doing is child play really...for what Gunjans done to her (the revelation, the disrespect of the fam, her horrible treatment of Ranvi)...she could be far more evil! Gunjans Manoj truth could've been thrown into her face in from of everybody...but Veera held it in...

That's a huge truth...and Gunjan could've been paying for it herself had Rangi not taken the blame or worse if Ranvi hadn't been there! Let's rewind a little further to the whole Jagjeet drama...Gunjan would've been paying horribly if her wedding had gone through...by she didn't get that...


What she's getting now is not torture!!! Not all!! What's she's having are Princess problems...for which I give you all a huge Jaggi sized eye roll for defending her as if she's getting her ishh handed to her...she is going to be fine!!! Veera can chill out...definitely...she doesn't need to be mean...that's what she's doing by the way...she's being mean...it's not enough to shake Gunjan out of her stupor...but it is what it is...I for one am glad that Gunjans getting pushed around a bit!


Sunny i really was not in the mood to get here but im telling u u r getting ur love letter soon
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: ..Tamanna

You just pinned all the blame on Veera for what RanJan couldn't become.


Veera isn't a Ranvi.. who'll chup chaap se suffer through everything. Veera cares about her Veerji and that's why she is doing all this. If she didn't care about him, why would she even step in the whole matter? She dislikes G because of everything that girl has put Ranvi through. If she didn't care about Ranvi, she would have never felt any dislike towards G. I'm gonna be frank here, G is no more the innocent girl who has suffered in her childhood. She has become a vamp.. Ranvi's so called mohabbat isn't going to work magic and bring her back. She needs something really hard thrown at her which will make her realize the things that are in front of her eyes. And in this case Ratan and Veera's behavior towards G comparison is completely irrelevant! Ratan doesn't know anything about what happened during the couching cast fiasco. Thus making her reaction towards G rather accepting.

Veera's actions influencing RanJan don't exactly change anything. G would have behaved that way towards him anyway.. She doesn't feel frustrated, she feels hatred towards him for her broken dreams and literally blames him for every little bad thing that is happening to her. Because she herself is a weak and petty person to accept her own mistakes. G isn't the one who's suffering, it's Veera who suffered when G shamelessly revealed about Veera not being Ratan's daughter because of her so called revenge, which has got her nothing. Still Veera has overlooked that and rather sees what she has put RANVI through than what G has put HER through. It's not easy to forget your whole family's insult because of a girl twice.

Veera never knew about her family financial problems when she was was going abroad. It was Baldev who told her about everything at the last moment. G was fine to dream about whatever she liked/wished when she was unmarried but she has a family now and is married whether she accepts it or not. G didn't care a penny about what would happen to her family or her in laws, if she ran away with Jagjeet. Her family has already suffered enough humiliation because of her. But still she never cared about them. If her reasoning is her delusional brain or that they never cared back. It's utterly petty. Her father had a heart-attack and she was ready to give him another. She has had enough love, but she is too shallow & negative to ever value it or realize its worth.

The show is called Ek Veer ki Ardaas Veera. And literally everything will connect to Ranveera and that means Veera as well. G is still getting less than what she really deserves. And things like making paranthas and doing housework is causing her to suffer.. I wonder what happens to the women who do that daily and on top of that, have a job to get to.


I didnt pin all the blame of what RanJan couldnt become because for that they have a long way to go.What I blame her for is adding fuel to the fire which was not necessary already in the hostile environment and coming into a marriage that is between two people Ranvi and Gunjan.

Gunjan is not torturing Ranvi that he is chup chap tolerating he clearly know the situation between him and Gunjan.His only fault is that he loves Gunjan and theirfore is in pain because of his own unrequited love not because Gunjan is torturing him,she literally avoids him.Much like what Veera is doing ot Gunjan at every point of the day whcih is basicly bullying her.Gunjan doesnt blow up like a pressure cooker on Ranvi unless he does something that initiates it.

You cannot say she is doing all this because she cares about Ranvi .What is Veeras objective that she wants to achieve by doing this.The only thing she has achieved is that Gunjan resents Ranvi more than previously and wants to run away sooner and at any cost.If that is her way of showing how much she loves her brother.Then she is clearly misguided.Gunjan has more reason to hurt ranvi now all due to Veera.

Ranvis whole family has put everything that Gunjan did behind them except Veera who holds this resentment towards Gunjan and wants her out of Ranvis life.If she really did this for Ranvi she would know how much Ranvi loves and cares for his wife and instead of tearing them apart bring them together.Unknowingly or choosing to be unknown is causing him more pain.

I will speak frankly to,I never said Gunjan is an inocent character shes grey.But neither is Veera the inocent she has her own selfish motives too behind whatever she wants.The only difference between Gunjan and Veera is that her family supports her reams and aspirations and Gunjans doesnt and now she is trapped.If someone took Veeras dream and told her all you should do is be a housewife and nothing else,wont she feel trapped and suffocated.Veera sees only one view.ONLY HERS.

and about Ranvis love bringing her back ,I never said that it would you have come up with that assumption yourself.But if you havent realised that Gunjan had become civil to Ranvi by wishing him on holi before the argument fiasco.where she did feel guilty before Veera came running in yelling all sorts.So I doubt that Gunjan would behave like that with him anyway unless provoked.If Gunjan is a petty person then Veera is selfish and ignorant that she still doesnt acknowledge that due to her ,Her brother sacrificed everything and has no respect in the eyes of his wife.

Then Veera is talking about rights that Ranvi has on Gunjan one of them being that it was Ranivs decsion to marry her then it should be Ranvi to kick her out not Veera.She has no right to do that and neither did Ranvi tell her too.In relevance to Ratan reaction towards Gunjan the reason shes accepting is because she loves her son and knows that her son loves Gunjan and therefore is willing to accept her and anyway even if Ratan finds out I doubt she will hate or throw Gunjan out .I mean she accepted Veera who is the living proof of her husbands betrayal.So she shouldnt have any problem with Gunjan.

The person that is suffering is visibly very clear.Gunjan has lost everything her family her father as well as her dreams and is trapped and cornered in a house with Veera bullying and forcing her to do this and that.So why shouldnt she hate her.Whilst Veera is pursuing her dreams is in family that loves her and teats her the same .Yeah clearly we can see whose suffering here.Gunjan is being punished over all her actions,shes getting the exact opposite f what she wants each time,her only fault is that she cannot see her mistakes.Like I said Gunjan only explodes when she is provoked and what she did to Veera was because of her father telling her he was dissapointed in her.She felt the pain of losing the only person that loved her so wanted Veera to feel the same.In my opinion veera never overlooked Gunjans behaviour with her family.Shes taking her revenge now and that is a petty characteristic.

Even if Veera didnt know about her financial status but she isnt blind to the fact that her brother works on the field all day and they have a debt they need to repay,or was she so self-involved that she forgot to pay attention.I was talking about Ranvis education and the state that he is in now.Doesnt she see that taking care of her has made him make sacrifices.She cant be that self-ndulgent that she cant connect the dots.Right now Gunjans objective and her lifes dream has always been to go abroad and the more obstacles their are the more passioante and ruthless she has become in attaining it.She has never cared for Ranvi family or him so its not like shes going to think of them while running away.Why would she??.When she still hasnt realised what he has done for her and she has no emotional connection whatsoever with them.

Then RanJan marriage doesnt contain only Ranvi Gunjan they should have joined Veera also.A marriage consists of two They are only two people that can make this marriage work .Ranvi and Gunjan.Ranvi accepts Gunjan with all her baggage so it doesnt matter what she thinks ,because they all know Gunjans character by now so keeping false hopes is their own fault.

Veera said that now Gunjan is Ranvi s wife she should do all his work is wrong.She may be his wife but that doesnt mean she HAS TO do everything for him.That is backwards thinking.




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Brenda00

Tani i do agree with you,'too much of everything will make you sick'..similarly i felt veera is overdoing it today,.my heart went out to gunjan esp when she saw those girls wearing modern outfit and having fun,.obviously for a girl who has always been taught to dress up and njoy her life,its not easy for her to accept the fact that shes married to a village guy who is not educated and doesnt earn lot,its a different thing that our ranvi is one in million,.if we keep ourselves in gunjans place and imagine if we get married to someone who we dont love ,well i cant even imagine marrying someone i dont love let alone spending rest of my life


Her dreams have broken and her only fault is that she hasnt given up.People alays say that never give up on your dreams.That is what shes doing now!!! and shes become a vamp just because of it
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lol...for that^^^?!! I hate having things just handed to me...I want to earn it!!! Lol...well I said what i said and I'm within the rules...

I've wanted an exciting post like this for a while!

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