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Posted: 11 years ago
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I beg to differ. The revenge marriage plan was his. But it back fired when he realized he lost kalpi in the process. He didn't think before he didi it. Now Gauri won't let him loose. If you remember the day they took over kapoor mansion gauri said to send them to jail and he said no I will have my revenge another way. But then all of a sudden kalpi left him. he thought oh I can marry poo and kalpi won't leave me she will stay with me and be my mistress. Well it back fired. Then he wanted divorce and thought I need another way to have revenge bt that is when gauri intervened. The plan was laid out by rags first. Gauri came in later. Now he is so called majboor because he didn't think things through before he did them. He screwed only himself and kalpi the rest really are fine whether poo, neetu sahil .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: daisyfields

Diane, if u remember Ragzs had always planned on marrying Paakhito take revenge on the Kapoors . He had even told Sammy about this and had taken Paakhi out for dinner only to make her fall for him and succeed in his revenge . So his revenge plan had always included marrying Paakhi. Also Gauri never told him to marry Paakhi when he found her and she told him to take revenge on Kapoors . She just wanted him to take revenge on them . Marrying Paakhi was his idea . I was always against this from day one that the great and conniving Mr Singhania has to resort to marrying a girl to destroy her family. He could have easily convinced Gauri that he will use business tactics and bring the Kapoors down. Also he knew about the strained relations betn Paakhi and her parents. So anyways marrying her to bring them down does not make any sense as they never cared for her in the first place . He claimed to love Kalpi and also swore to Kamla that he would never Paakhi . And then he ditched her at the last moment and left her and her family to face public humiliation. So in a way Kamla is right , he never cared about Kalpi feelings and love and the consequences of his behaviour for her. So Kamla's anger regarding that is justified .

By doing this he dug his own grave in a sense he played right into Kamla 's hands and Kamla got a chance to seperate Kalpi from him in a justifiable manner. Kalpi feels guilty about the humiliation she and her parents faced due to the marriage breakup and has also somewhat lost trust in Ragzs and thats why is aksing to stay away from him till he gets his revenge. On the other hand he also played into Paakhi's hands by marrying her legally and even now by giving in to her demands . Paakhi on thr other hand is doing her best to establish herself as Mrs Singhania publicly and tomo after a year she will make it extremely difficult for Rags to divorce her . So whre is the revenge?

It has been ragzs fault all the way and he's going to be made to pay for it by spades


For me I think it's because of his mom request he agreed to marry Paaki and he did come to take revenge on kapoors that was his plan until he feel in love with Kalpi!! I understand your point! But with finding his mom came consequences! Consequences that cud not be left alone and because of these he always looked as the one to be blamed!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunyy

I beg to differ. The revenge marriage plan was his. But it back fired when he realized he lost kalpi in the process. He didn't think before he didi it. Now Gauri won't let him loose. If you remember the day they took over kapoor mansion gauri said to send them to jail and he said no I will have my revenge another way. But then all of a sudden kalpi left him. he thought oh I can marry poo and kalpi won't leave me she will stay with me and be my mistress. Well it back fired. Then he wanted divorce and thought I need another way to have revenge bt that is when gauri intervened. The plan was laid out by rags first. Gauri came in later. Now he is so called majboor because he didn't think things through before he did them. He screwed only himself and kalpi the rest really are fine whether poo, neetu sahil .


Isn't it the same day he found gauri that he went to neetu and Sahil and propose a condition to marry Paaki and made them sign some documents?! That's was after he found gauri on the same day he was supposed to marry Kalpi! And he did do it rush rush!! That's why I'm thinking it's gauri that made him marry Paaki!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: daisyfields

Diane, if u remember Ragzs had always planned on marrying Paakhito take revenge on the Kapoors . He had even told Sammy about this and had taken Paakhi out for dinner only to make her fall for him and succeed in his revenge . So his revenge plan had always included marrying Paakhi. Also Gauri never told him to marry Paakhi when he found her and she told him to take revenge on Kapoors . She just wanted him to take revenge on them . Marrying Paakhi was his idea . I was always against this from day one that the great and conniving Mr Singhania has to resort to marrying a girl to destroy her family. He could have easily convinced Gauri that he will use business tactics and bring the Kapoors down. Also he knew about the strained relations betn Paakhi and her parents. So anyways marrying her to bring them down does not make any sense as they never cared for her in the first place . He claimed to love Kalpi and also swore to Kamla that he would never Paakhi . And then he ditched her at the last moment and left her and her family to face public humiliation. So in a way Kamla is right , he never cared about Kalpi feelings and love and the consequences of his behaviour for her. So Kamla's anger regarding that is justified .

By doing this he dug his own grave in a sense he played right into Kamla 's hands and Kamla got a chance to seperate Kalpi from him in a justifiable manner. Kalpi feels guilty about the humiliation she and her parents faced due to the marriage breakup and has also somewhat lost trust in Ragzs and thats why is aksing to stay away from him till he gets his revenge. On the other hand he also played into Paakhi's hands by marrying her legally and even now by giving in to her demands . Paakhi on thr other hand is doing her best to establish herself as Mrs Singhania publicly and tomo after a year she will make it extremely difficult for Rags to divorce her . So whre is the revenge?

It has been ragzs fault all the way and he's going to be made to pay for it by spades


This is word for word what I would write.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Raghav had no right to ditch a girl at the altar, he did a big crime right there. You claim it was done for his mother! OK! But why did he then proceed to taking his new wife to flaunt her in front of Kalpana? Why did he tell her he still loves her, as if it was her consolidation award. We all have a gala time bashing Pakhi because she is irritating but Raghav has been the real culprit throughout this love triangle. He has always given her the wrong signal, and yet he plays his victim card really well.Heck!!! He is no better than Kamla. Kamla is doing all of this for Pakhi right? Well then just like Raghav is not to blame for ruining 3 people's lives for his mother, then we can argue that Kamla is not to blame for always standing by Pakhi and ruining Kalpana's chances of happiness, after all she did raise her? I am using Pakhi here and not Kalpana because both Kamla and Raghav have left no stones unturned to ensure Kalpana is ruined beyond repair for their own selfish reasons.

If Raghav truly married Pakhi for revenge in Gauri's name, why is he overlooking Gauri's feelings and intentions and ensuring Pakhi is happy every day and is telling the world, yes am her proud husband? Surely that is not obeying his mother's feelings right? So thats where I argue his reasons of majboori are utter bullshit.

If tomorrow Gauri tells him to go and murder Kalpana, are we still going to claim he did it because he was coerced, hence he is still an innocent victim?


I blame Raghav alone for this mess, and now Kamla is playing on this to ensure her Pakhi baby gets what she wants whilst Kalpana suffer! Raghav is making sure the world refer to Kalpana as the mistress by allowing Pakhi to claim him as hers in front of the world whilst he smiles and nods like a moron in agreement.


(Didnt intend to offend, sorry if I was too blunt, although I did try to be slightly diplomatic😆)
Edited by _innocent_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: _innocent_

Raghav had no right to ditch a girl at the altar, he did a big crime right there. You claim it was done for his mother! OK! But why did he then proceed to taking his new wife to flaunt her in front of Kalpana? Why did he tell her he still loves her, as if it was her consolidation award. We all have a gala time bashing Pakhi because she is irritating but Raghav has been the real culprit throughout in this love triangle. He has always given her the wrong signal, and yet he plays hi victim card really well. He is no better than Kamla. Kamla is doing all of this for Pakhi right? Well then just like Raghav is not to blame for ruining 3 people's lives for his mother, then we can argue that Kamla is not to blame for always standing by Pakhi and ruining Kalpana's chances of happiness, after all she did raise her? I am using Pakhi here and not Kalpana because both Kamla and Raghav have left no stones unturned to ensure Kalpana is ruined beyond repair for their own selfish reasons.

If Raghav truly married Pakhi for revenge in Gauri's name, why is he overlooking Gauri's feelings and intentions and ensuring Pakhi is happy every day and is telling the world, yes am her proud husband? Surely that is not obeying his mother's feelings right? So thats where I argue his reasons of majboori are utter bullshit.

If tomorrow Gauri tells him to go and murder Kalpana, are we still going to claim he did it because he was coerced, hence he is still an innocent victim?


I blame Raghav alone for this mess, and now Kamla is playing on this to ensure her Pakhi baby gets what she wants whilst Kalpana suffer! Raghav is making sure the world refer to Kalpana as the mistress by allowing Pakhi to claim him as hers in front of the world whilst he smiles and nods like a moron in agreement.


(Didnt intend to offend, sorry if I was too blunt, although I did try to be slightly diplomatic😆)



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Posted: 11 years ago
#17
The only fault of Raghav is that he has too much effect on Kalpana and he always makes her cry.

Kalpana already has a mother who is her life time sorrow and now Raghav has come to add to it .

I pity Kalpana. She is the most unlucky girl in the world to have a mother like Kamla and lover like Raghav !!

As for Raghav i really dont understand him.What does he want ?

All I see is that he wants to keep doing wrong things just to apeace others and be good in all eyes...well it can never be !

Untill and unless he takes a right stand he deserves to suffer .

Kamla is trying to be righteous by dialogues .But the fact is she is cornering and sidelining Kalpana to give the happiness to Paki .Something she always does and something we as viewers always hate
Edited by ShanUlas - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShanUlas

The only fault of Raghav is that he has too much effect on Kalpana and he always makes her cry.

Kalpana already has a mother who is her life time sorrow and now Raghav has come to add to it .

I pity Kalpana. She is the most unlucky girl in the world to have a mother like Kamla and lover like Raghav !!

As for Raghav i really dont understand him.What does he want ?

All I see is that he wants to keep doing wrong things just to apeace others and be good in all eyes...well it can never be !

Untill and unless he takes a right stand he deserves to suffer .

Kamla is trying to be righteous by dialogues .But the fact is she is cornering and sidelining Kalpana to give the happiness to Paki .Something she always does and something we as viewers always hate

Awesome response Shana! He is indeed to busy appeasing others especially Pakhi and Kamla that he is overlooking the dard he is causing Kalpana. He claims to understand her suffering because he is suffering more! If that was the case, how come he has not gone out of his way to fight for her and threaten suicide himself to Gauri to get him what he wants?

@red👏👏 Agreed!!- She found a man who was ready to give her the entire sky but alas he proved to be no matter than her own mother as he ensured she was second best just like Kamla has done since the day Kalpana was born. What difference is there b/w Raghav and Kamla in the real sense? Both are out to hurt Kalpana. Kamla does it intentionally whilst Raghav does it unintentionally: but end results are always the same!


@pink! I agree!!! He needs to suffer until he decides to grow a backbone and stand up for what he truly wants! He needs to stop being indecisive and become that old Raghav Singhania who wanted nothing more than his Kalpana's smile.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: _innocent_

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Raghav had no right to ditch a girl at the altar, he did a big crime right there. You claim it was done for his mother! OK! But why did he then proceed to taking his new wife to flaunt her in front of Kalpana? Why did he tell her he still loves her, as if it was her consolidation award. We all have a gala time bashing Pakhi because she is irritating but Raghav has been the real culprit throughout this love triangle. He has always given her the wrong signal, and yet he plays his victim card really well.Heck!!! He is no better than Kamla. Kamla is doing all of this for Pakhi right? Well then just like Raghav is not to blame for ruining 3 people's lives for his mother, then we can argue that Kamla is not to blame for always standing by Pakhi and ruining Kalpana's chances of happiness, after all she did raise her? I am using Pakhi here and not Kalpana because both Kamla and Raghav have left no stones unturned to ensure Kalpana is ruined beyond repair for their own selfish reasons.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">If Raghav truly married Pakhi for revenge in Gauri's name, why is he overlooking Gauri's feelings and intentions and ensuring Pakhi is happy every day and is telling the world, yes am her proud husband? Surely that is not obeying his mother's feelings right? So thats where I argue his reasons of majboori are utter bullshit.
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">If tomorrow Gauri tells him to go and murder Kalpana, are we still going to claim he did it because he was coerced, hence he is still an innocentvictim?</font>


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I blame Raghav alone for this mess, and now Kamla is playing on this to ensure her Pakhi baby gets what she wants whilst Kalpana suffer! Raghav is making sure the world refer to Kalpana as the mistress by allowing Pakhi to claim him as hers in front of the world whilst he smiles and nods like a moron in agreement.</font>


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">(Didnt intend to offend, sorry if I was too blunt, although I did try to be slightly diplomatic😆)</font>


Raghav didn't take Paaki to flaunt her! She flaunt herself so that Kalpi will see both of them together, Paaki still has hope that she will win raghav!! Kamal is misleading
Paaki knowing the truth about raghav and Kalpi! She knows they love eachother!! Raghav always told the truth to Kalpi and Kamla! It's Paaki who's encouraging raghav saying she have to ale excuse all the time! Why did he remove her hand from holding her then? Why did he question her about the sindoor and friend if he didn't care about Kalpi?! Wen it comes to telling the truth raghav have done it! Unlike Kamla, she know the truth but yet lies to Paaki just to encourage her in false love!! Raghav is not overlooking gauris feelings in fact he is doing all this to Paaki because of his mom! He wants to keep her happy and by doing that he is also taken away from his love!!
I do appreciate your opinion and don't consider it as bashing! Clearly we have different opinions!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShanUlas

The only fault of Raghav is that he has too much effect on Kalpana and he always makes her cry.

Kalpana already has a mother who is her life time sorrow and now Raghav has come to add to it .

I pity Kalpana. She is the most unlucky girl in the world to have a mother like Kamla and lover like Raghav !!

As for Raghav i really dont understand him.What does he want ?

All I see is that he wants to keep doing wrong things just to apeace others and be good in all eyes...well it can never be !

Untill and unless he takes a right stand he deserves to suffer .

Kamla is trying to be righteous by dialogues .But the fact is she is cornering and sidelining Kalpana to give the happiness to Paki .Something she always does and something we as viewers always hate


So you don't think raghav love Kalpi?! And sacrificed his love for his mother?! Don't you see he is hurting too!!

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