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'An inferiority complex, often used to mean low self-esteem, is a feeling of intense insecurity, inferiority or of not measuring up. An inferiority complex can be seen in the negative or "useless" reactions to problems in life. These reactions are useless because they do not solve the problem at hand, but only serve to guard one's self-esteem by avoiding the task or by placing the blame for the failure outside of the individual's control. A primary inferiority feeling is said to be rooted in the young child's original experience of weakness, helplessness and dependency. '

How is this related to the ever confident & moophat Manvi? The Manvi who believes in giving tit for tat and someone who fears no-one. Yet when I see her behaviour towards Jeevika, one thing which always strikes me is how inferior she feels in front of her. They are one yet not equal in stature because Manvi doesn't deem herself worthy to put herself on the same pedestal as her Di. This is something I've noticed since the very beginning of the show. She was always insecure of losing Jeevika and even when she finally accepted Viren as the right partner for her sister, she continued to make light hearted sarcastic remarks about how Jeevika won't love and need her as much after marriage. Often it seems like she is hiding her insecurities under her humour while innocently trying to express her desire to be noticed by Jeevika. When JM re-united after the Chacha fiasco, Manvi brushed away the knock on the door thinking it's Dabbu and clearly told him to not mess with the older sister but when she finally opens the door and sees Jeevika in front of her she is gobsmacked.

She pleads to Jeevika to never ask for forgivness. She would rather be beaten than to see her sister bow down in front of her (even if she is at fault). Everything that goes wrong in Jeevika's life is due to Manvi's misdoings. She feels suffocated by the fact that someone like Jeevika could love someone like her so much. It's beyond her understanding! Is this something which she has built within herself over the years? Jeevika certainly doesn't blame her, in fact she believes every happiness in her life is due to Manvi. Could it be Beeji's blame game since childhood? Whatever the reason is, Manvi definitely seems to rate herself inadequate in front of Jeevika and maybe that's why the love is so aggressive in nature. There is a lot of insecurity in this relationship since childhood and I guess it's just heightened over the years.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I so need to finish my maths planning but guess what I here to comment of your topic :D. Loved your definition of inferiority complex. When it to comes to her sister Maanvi seems to have it that in her head that she is less in every form and places Jeevika on this high pedestal. The way she has been referring to it in the last few episodes reminds of the self profiling prophecy. If you are told something enough times you will believe it even if it is untrue. Even though Maanvi hasn't been told this, it is what she believes and still lives by in even though it maybe untrue.

Humor is great way to disguise feelings and over the years Maanvi has just done that, placed her serious anxieties about Jeevika into a casual comment or joke. Which is taken light heartedly but underlines her feelings. Even if Jeevika is at fault, somehow Maanvi feels that she has caused it. She scarifies everything for Maanvi and never does anything for herself, yet Jeevika see it in a different way.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Pj-

I so need to finish
my maths planning but guess what I here to comment of your topic :D. Loved your
definition of inferiority complex. When it to comes to her sister Maanvi seems
to have it that in her head that she is less in every form and places Jeevika on
this high pedestal. The way she has been
referring to it in the last few episodes reminds of the self profiling prophecy.
If you are told something enough times you will believe it even if it is
untrue. Even though Maanvi hasn't been told this, it is what she believes and
still lives by in even though it maybe untrue.


Humor is great way to
disguise feelings and over the years Maanvi has just done that, placed her
serious anxieties about Jeevika into a casual comment or joke. Which is taken
light heartedly but underlines her feelings. Even if Jeevika is at fault,
somehow Maanvi feels that she has caused it. She scarifies everything for
Maanvi and never does anything for herself, yet Jeevika see it in a different
way.





A teacher never has finishing hours really!

Even when Maanvi found out about Chutki, one of the first things she said 'Before your marriage I wad No.1, after marriage I became No.2 and now I'll become No.3'. These were her real feelings coming out in a light manner.

The one who forgives is bigger than the one who asks for forgiveness so how could she become bigger than her Di?
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A teachers hours are never finished. Even if you stop working there are still things you could do, especially when your a new teacher and haven't learnt the art of time management.

She has always put herself second and even if Jeevika is at fault she doesn't let her apologise as somehow she things indirectly it was her own doing. 'The one who forgives is bigger than the one who asks for forgiveness so how could she become bigger than her Di'

She can never be bigger than her Di, which is why she doesn't allow her to say sorry. How these sisters do have a complex relationship
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Posted: 13 years ago
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^I think Jeevika kind of relishes the position Manvi gives her. Being 'God' for someone must be a good feeling :P
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Reemaji .. beautiful thought provoking post 👏

Jeevika for Maanvi is always on a high pedestal, more than love she worships her di.. she believes that her DI CAN NEVER BE WRONG, as her DI is her GOD.. can Bhagwanji be wrong NO - this is just that firm BELIEF and TRUST .. whatever be the situation her DI can never be wrong ,..

Mannu, feels blessed to be loved by her Di so unconditionally, and ever since her childhood.. whatever problem J faces Mannu blames herself .. because DI can never do anything wrong is written permanently on M's mind and heart

She is always submissive when coming to her di.. she might fight against everyone in the world for her di and di's happiness...but she will never agree to it that she could as well be the reason for her Di's happiness...Di ki har baath Mannu kay liye paththar pe lakhir jaisa hai.,,,

J's unbound love is overshadowing M's thoughts for she thinks from her Di's perspective ,,,, it is more complex to understand M's feelings...where she has to hide her inferiority complex behind moophat words and wide smiles ... for Mannu, feels her Di's every word is pathar pe lakeer ..

In her submissive and inferior feelings, she will never be able to understand, how overwhelming J is with M's love for her Di
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Originally posted by: munnihyderabad

Reemaji .. beautiful thought provoking post👏


Jeevika for Maanvi is always on a high pedestal, more than love she worships her di.. she believes that her DI CAN NEVER BE WRONG, as her DI is her GOD.. can Bhagwanji be wrong NO - this is just that firm BELIEF and TRUST .. whatever be the situation her DI can never be wrong ,..

Mannu, feels blessed to be loved by her Di so unconditionally, and ever since her childhood.. whatever problem J faces Mannu blames herself .. because DI can never do anything wrong is written permanently on M's mind and heart

She is always submissive when coming to her di.. she might fight against everyone in the world for her di and di's happiness...but she will never agree to it that she could as well be the reason for her Di's happiness...Di ki har baath Mannu kay liye paththar pe lakhir jaisa hai.,,,

J's unbound love is overshadowing M's thoughts for she thinks from her Di's perspective ,,,, it is more complex to understand M's feelings...where she has to hide her inferiority complex behind moophat words and wide smiles ... for Mannu, feels her Di's every word is pathar pe lakeer ..

In her submissive and inferior feelings, she will never be able to understand, how overwhelming J is with M's love for her Di



Munniji

Beautiful reply yourself. I've always found their relationship very complex because it takes various forms & shapes. They are two sides of the same coin yet Manvi feels she's insignificant in front of Jeevika. Despite all her reckless acts since childhood, Jeevika has loved and protected her and that makes Manvi worship her. Their source of dependency on each other originates from then. I wish we could hear/see more of their childhood stories. The examples Manvi gave this week of how Jeevika would offer everything to Manvi first, make sure she's fed etc. proved to be a great insight. Jeevika never counted those moments as anything because protecting and loving Manvi is her first nature but Manvi's reverence towards her Di has manifolded because of those memories.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I feel its pure love n respect towards jeevika n nothng like inferiority complex... She loves her di too much to ever think she is wrong... Being orphan at an early age n gtng all luv n care from jeevika she is too much attached to her n hence feared tat her di might forget her while jeevika was gtng married...
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Originally posted by: shona_virman

I feel its pure love n respect towards jeevika n nothng like inferiority complex... She loves her di too much to ever think she is wrong... Being orphan at an early age n gtng all luv n care from jeevika she is too much attached to her n hence feared tat her di might forget her while jeevika was gtng married...



I agree it's pure love and respect but it goes to the extent of belittling her own self worth. She doesn't think she is worthy of too much love and she is always blaming herself for everything that goes wrong.
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*



I agree it's pure love and respect but it goes to the extent of belittling her own self worth. She doesn't think she is worthy of too much love and she is always blaming herself for everything that goes wrong.


yes! Tats bcoz she respects her... Jeevika is elder to her n she is sensible enough to take it in a way tat being elder jeevika always makes da right decision... She thinks she is wrong coz she believes jeevika can never be wrong... Its not tat she follows jeevika like a lost puppy always... Otherwise she wud hav never filed a case against her dear sister... Wen she thought jeevika is wrong (though she was not bt well Manvi thought so) she filed a case against her sister bt den tat was also coz she dint want her to compromise on her happiness for her dying sister... A big big factor for Manvi being so attached to jeevika is coz dey lost der parents at an early age... Normally children learn to share da luv of der parents wid der siblings... Dey hav to... Bt in dis case bcoz dey lost der parents n jeevika being elder took over Manvi's responsibility all her luv n care as a sister as a mother went to Manvi... Manvi never shared her sisters luv wid any1 so she feels insecure of loosing her sister... Dis is very common... In general also wen parents having single child wen giv imp or even a bit of attention to other children may be da childr cousin or children of other relatives da child feels jealous... I'm still not convinced tat Manvi feels inferior... Both sisters give da required luv n respect to each other...

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