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Posted: 13 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: RandomSquared

i love that they are finally concentrating on jeevika a little more...she is the lead as well. and they were on virman for sooo long it was getting boring. the sotry is about the two sisters im glad jeevika is back in the picture

I totally agree with your comment 😉
Edited by -Yamz- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#62
Guys, get back to the topic at hand. There is no need to bring up discussion from ATs, other topics and such. Any further comments that don't relate to the thread's original topic specifically will be deleted. If anyone has any questions/comments, we are just a PM away. -EHMMBH DT
Edited by luvya4ever - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The so-called "Jeeman" we are getting these days is nothing but Jeevika, Jeevika and more Jeevika. Each damn scene revolves around her completely ignoring the 'Man' in Jeeman.The Manvi BBG scene was SO badly edited whereas Jeevika's crying hogs the entire episode. I remember during the VM track , people complained about overdose of Viraat; now some are complaining about J's overdose, big deal?? Frankly speaking Jeevika's scenes are boring, repetitive and dont have the kind of impact that they should. I dont have any problems with a Jeeman track provided BOTH the sisters are in focus and none of the other characters are ruined as well. Here just to glorify Jeevika , V and M's characters are ruined every single day. So how do you expect the VM fans to be quiet?? And noone is demanding for VM to be there in the entire episode, even if you give a 2 min QUALITY scene on them, you wont see people complaining.
And regarding Cancer, it wasnt badly handled during the entire VM track. They made a mockery of it only after JM returned to Hrishikesh. And frankly, it isnt just Viraat who was insensitive in handling it--the "best jeeju" in the whole world , Viren, knew about the reports too but he is too busy family planning and making babies. And in Jeevika's world ,cold bears more weightage than CANCER. If such glaring bloopers can be excused , then why single out Viraat ? Because atleast he showed concern for M for the most part except the current episodes unlike some.
And about people demanding for rain seq when M has cancer, though i may not agree with it, everybody has their own pov and shouldnt be criticised on the basis of it..few of them did demand for such a seq, but at the end its upto the CVs to decide what to incorporate and what to let go. ..and just bec some of them wanted a rain seq doesnt make them any less insensible ..Someone posted courtroom drama as an upcoming track, I personally am not in favour of it and believe that it will totally ruin the very foundation of the show but hey that doesnt man I should go on questioning the sensibility of the person who suggested it.
And lastly about "stalking" , well the people who post in the behna AT arent the ONLY JM fans ..there are many silent viewers who view the AT too..I do so and while I may not be a fan of J as an individual, I at times like the way the sisters bond is portrayed so I visit the AT when i like a few of their scenes, so does this mean I am stalking?? Just bec I dont post?? And I sure have seen plenty of snide comments passed against VM/V and the VM fans too..noone is a saint in all this.
And lastly, I will still maintain that most of the VM fans dont have a problem with JM track ..few might have ,just like some "behna" fans have with VM track but most of them are fine with it as long as the the story is weaved correctly...most of them are complaining about the editing, bg music, assassination of Viraat and Maanvi and lack of M..and i see no fault in this cos this show is after all, "ek hazaron mein meri behna hai" not "ek hazaron mein hamari jeevika hai" 😊
Edited by niku28 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Okay you ppl are tellin virat is not bothered about the reports then wat about viren??he also knows the truth ryt??
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: niku28

The so-called "Jeeman" we are getting these days is nothing but Jeevika, Jeevika and more Jeevika. Each damn scene revolves around her completely ignoreing the 'Man' in Jeeman.The Manvi BBG scene was SO badly edited whereas Jeevika's crying hogs the entire episode. I remember during the VM track , people complained about overdose of Viraat; now some are complaining about J's overdose, big deal?? Frankly speaking Jeevika's scenes are boring, repetitive and dont have the kind of impact that they should. I dont have any problems with a Jeeman track provided BOTH the sisters are in focus and none of the other characters are ruined as well. Here just to glorify Jeevika , V and M's characters are ruined every single day. So how do you expect the VM fans to be quiet?? And noone is demanding for VM to be there in the entire episode, even if you give a 2 min QUALITY scene on them, you wont see people complaining.

And regarding Cancer, it wasnt badly handled during the entire VM track. They made a mockery of it only after JM returned to Hrishikesh. And frankly, it isnt just Viraat who was insensitive in handling it--the "best jeeju" in the whole world , Viren, knew about the reports too but he is too busy family planning and making babies. And in Jeevika's world ,cold bears more weightage than CANCER. If such glaring bloopers can be excused , then why single out Viraat ? Because atleast he showed concern for M for the most part except the current episodes unlike some.
And about people demanding for rain seq when M has cancer, though i may not agree with it, everybody has their own pov and shouldnt be criticised on the basis of it..few of them did demand for such a seq, but at the end its upto the CVs to decide what to incorporate and what to let go. ..and just bec some of them wanted a rain seq doesnt make them any less insensible ..Someone posted courtroom drama as an upcoming track, I personally am not in favour of it and believe that it will totally ruin the very foundation of the show but hey that doesnt man I should goon questioning the sensibility of the person who suggested it.
And lastly about "stalking" , well the people who post in the behna AT arent the ONLY JM fans ..there are many silent viewers who view the AT too..I do so and while I may not be a fan of J as an individual, I at times like the way the sisters bond is portrayedso I visit the AT when i like a few of their scenes, so does this mean I am stalking?? Just bec I dont post?? And I sure have seen plenty of snide comments passed against VM/V and the VM fans too..noone is a saint in all this.
And lastly, I will still maintain that most of the VM fans dont have a problem with JM track ..few might have just like some "behna" fans have with VM track but most of them are fine with it as long as the the story is weaved correctly...most of them are complaining about the editing, bg music, assassination of Viraat and Maanvi and lack of M..and i see no fault in this cos this show is after all, "ek hazaron mein meri behna hai" not "ek hazaron mein hamari jeevika hai"😊

awesome reply..agree with each and every word of yours..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ita_04

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZwFKu3qZ3c&hd=1&t=2s[/YOUTUBE]

n for people still curious...this is the virman i fell in love with...maybe everyone who watched EHM did...but i don't see them anywhere now n that is what makes it hard to relate to the seven day track or whatever...we feel jeeman are the soul doesn't mean virman aren't loved by us...i really do not understand if u don't proclaim urself a "fan" by asking for this n that...y u can't love a couple...we all have our own reasons n parameters n if we feel something amiss we can point out..like we pointed out virat's unreasonable attitude during the confession track..


hmm..i love the VM..my fav till nw..AA is the master of VMs..true that VirMans lost...
okey i cnt believe i actually went thru this entire thread nd all the comments..phew finally done...
...dont knw if i can actually add much..still..felt like sayin smtn...

firstly abt the topic ...again we are not against J gettin importance..again like rashii said..apart frm the whole stop ruinin VirMan fr behana comments on MP..there were so many other comments whch talked abt the actual probem.that is..the othr 3 (main leads 2)...getting buthchered...oh and the cancer track ofcourse..no one remembrs that anymore..!!!its eitr j crayin fr M nd rakshabandhan or V tryin2 convince the khandan..:/
i completely agree with u abt VirMan gettin lost frm the beginin of the 7 days track..im bein really honest here..i m a hardcore VirMan fan!..but i m not gonna watch a soap which doesnt make sense on the other fronts as well..i wanted 2 see the confession 2..but wat we got in the name of VirMan track was ..this...J cryin...virat tryin 2 convince rishikesh family.random punters scenes..manvi bein so not manvi..virat repetetively tryin2 convince J abt his love fr manvi..less virman more J nd virat scenes..then hw can i forget ..COLD v/s Cancer!...at the end of it all finally the confession...in the rain.(wasnt one of those who asked for it though..)..i wanted Manvi 2 fall sick 2 nd viraat 2 take care of her..but then...well watevr..ok so thats wat we got...no VirMan at all!...:O.since then VirMans been lost!..(lol here i go again..got carried away..)

well the point is..all we want is a plot that we can connect 2..frankly i dont see y J has been crying so much all of a sudden..while viren and esp Viraat have been left bein silent spectators?..
what we are askin for is the same thing u guys ar askin for 2...the consistency in the track..i think i myself have asked ..hw cum Viraat knowing that Manvis condition is worsened is no doin anytn abt it..y do i see him tryin hard 2 convnce evryone instead of actually searching for alteranative traetments...its like they have completely ignored the fact that this person was the same guy who ws ready 2 give up his feelings if it meant helping Manvi get better!!??..
its really disapointing and irritating that they have reduced this iconic lover 2 wat we see nw...😕

and lets talk abt Manvi..first they decide 2 tell us that her cancersspread all over..but then we dont see any symptoms...then the whole condfession in rain again no effect...then the dialogues here...aatma nd saas(which got bashed endlessly...)...frst we atleast go2 see her man...nw we hardly do..does JeeMan mean nly JEE..we are forced 2 wtch J cry nd cry endlessly fr M..so nly J cares..wat at M?..Ms alws been(fr me..!!! dont wan2 f8..)...the honest behana!...shes alws been loyal 2 J no matter wat alws had J as her frst priority..nd nw Manvis suddenly sidelined..she cant cry eitr.?.so she doesnt need comfort..isnt she also goin thru the same thing shes also missin her behan for the frst time on rakshabandhan 2 r8?..so y isnt she shown cryin..y isnt viraat shown comforting her like viren is..the same viraat who used 2 understnd evrytn abt her.evry momen evry thot of hers...nw suddenly dosn't evn call her evn ftr seein J bein all depressed...doesnt wonder of Ms ok?..its been days...since they had a convo..wernt these the same virman who used 2 not sleep before sayin gn..or the ones who used 2 alws wish each otr the frst thng in the mornin...watevr happened 2 the consistency in the script?...nw we see them not thinking abt ach otr eitr...?..well on top of that we have 2 ear the whole khandan nd izzat stff frm the otr characters...
viren 2 was seen standing and listenin 2 crap agains his pregnanat wife..not a word frm him...
the main thing though is CANCER !..evryone frm Viraat ND Jeevs 2 beeji nd otrs.have forgotten that M has cancer ...insted they are busy asoo bahofying fr J nd her tadap 2 see M..?..wat is that?
tats y u see us sayin stff we say tr...

im not against the behanas ...ok i admit im not a fan..lost connect long before..but u cant ignore the most important thing that is Cancer..or destroy other characters..for the sake of showin J s concern fr her sis...all we asked for is give us 2 mins of VirMAn but sensible old VirMan..not just the crappy random phone convos..or the stuid ROKA that im hearin abt...wat ?.with ...Ms cancer nd evrytn..wat was the need for it?..nd that 2 after they have completely ruined VIrMan!!...suddenly they wish 2 show us them gettin engaged..so not happy with the current track...!nd yes so not happy with J ..that charcter has been damaged so much that i cant see her as she was before..still not aginst it..wish 2 revive her? do it..but do not mess with Viraat!..and esp Manvi..!!
p.s..the talk abt trps..is nly cz sid sir himself instigated the f8..he blamed virman fr the drop..so cant blame us if we are tryn2 make him understnd wat happend tr...:/
Edited by misaki - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: misaki


hmm..i love the VM..my fav till nw..AA is the master of VMs..true that VirMans lost...
okey i cnt believe i actually went thru this entire thread nd all the comments..phew finally done...
...dont knw if i can actually add much..still..felt like sayin smtn...

firstly abt the topic ...again we are not against J gettin importance..again like rashii said..apart frm the whole stop ruinin VirMan fr behana comments on MP..there were so many other comments whch talked abt the actual probem.that is..the othr 3 (main leads 2)...getting buthchered...oh and the cancer track ofcourse..no one remembrs that anymore..!!!its eitr j crayin fr M nd rakshabandhan or V tryin2 convince the khandan..:/
i completely agree with u abt VirMan gettin lost frm the beginin of the 7 days track..im bein really honest here..i m a hardcore VirMan fan!..but i m not gonna watch a soap which doesnt make sense on the other fronts as well..i wanted 2 see the confession 2..but wat we got in the name of VirMan track was ..this...J cryin...virat tryin 2 convince rishikesh family.random punters scenes..manvi bein so not manvi..virat repetetively tryin2 convince J abt his love fr manvi..less virman more J nd virat scenes..then hw can i forget ..COLD v/s Cancer!...at the end of it all finally the confession...in the rain.(wasnt one of those who asked for it though..)..i wanted Manvi 2 fall sick 2 nd viraat 2 take care of her..but then...well watevr..ok so thats wat we got...no VirMan at all!...:O.since then VirMans been lost!..(lol here i go again..got carried away..)

well the point is..all we want is a plot that we can connect 2..frankly i dont see y J has been crying so much all of a sudden..while viren and esp Viraat have been left bein silent spectators?..
what we are askin for is the same thing u guys ar askin for 2...the consistency in the track..i think i myself have asked ..hw cum Viraat knowing that Manvis condition is worsened is no doin anytn abt it..y do i see him tryin hard 2 convnce evryone instead of actually searching for alteranative traetments...its like they have completely ignored the fact that this person was the same guy who ws ready 2 give up his feelings if it meant helping Manvi get better?..
its really disapointing and irritating that they have reduced this iconic lover 2 wat we see nw...😕

and lets talk abt Manvi..first they decide 2 tell us that her cancersspread all over..but then we dont see any symptoms...then the whole condfession in rain again no effect...then the dialogues here...aatma nd saas(which got bashed endlessly...)...frst we atleast go2 see her man...nw we hardly do..does JeeMan mean nly JEE..we are forced 2 wtch J cry nd cry endlessly fr M..so nly J cares..wat at M?..Ms alws been(fr me..nly pls dont wan2 f8..)...the honest behana...shes alws been honest 2 J no matter wat alws had J as her frst priority..nd nw Manvis suddenly sidelined..she cant cry eitr..so she doesnt need comfort..isnt she also goin thru the same thing shes also missin her behan for the frst time on rakshabandhan 2??..so y usnt she shown cryin..y isnt viraat shown comforting her like viren is..the same viraat who used 2 understnd evrytn abt her..nw sudeenly dosnt evn call her ..its been days...since they had a convo..wernt these the same virman who used 2 not sleep before sayin gn..or the ones who used 2 alws wish each otr the frst thng in the mornin...watevr happened 2 the consistency in the script?...nw we see them not thinking abt ach otr eitr...?..well on top of that we have 2 ear the whole khandan nd izzat stff frm the otr characters...
viren 2 was seen standing and listenin 2 carp agains his pregnanat wife..not a word frm him...
the main thing though is CANCER !..evryone frm Viraat ND Jeevs 2 beeji nd otrs.have forgotten that M has cancer ...insted they are busy asoo bahofying fr J nd her tadap 2 see M..?..wat is that?
tas y u see us sayin stff we say tr...

im not against the behanas ...ok i admit im not a fan..lost connect long before..but u cant ignore the most important thing that is Cancer..or destroy other characters..for the sake of showin J s concern fr her sis...all we asked for is give us 2 mins of VirMAn but sensible old VirMan..not just the crappy random phone convos..or the stuid ROKA that im hearin abt...wat with Ms cancer nd evrytn..wat was the need of it?..nd they have completely ruined VIrMan...suddenly they wish 2 show us them gettin engaged..so not happy with the current track...!nd yes so not happy with J ..shes been damaged so much that i cant see her as she was before..still not aginst it..wish 2 revive her do it..but do not mess with Viraat!..and esp Manvi..!!
p.s..the talk abt trps..is nly cz sid sir himself instigated the f8..he blamed virman fr the drop..so cant blame us if we are tryn2 make him understnd wat happend tr...:/


Bang on answer and ur post covered up all the points👏
P.S: U said that u thought that u can't add much i can see that from the quantity and quality of ur post😛😆


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nivluvsvirman


Bang on answer and ur post covered up all the points👏
P.S: U said that u thought that u can't add much i can see that from the quantity and quality of ur post😛😆



lol😆...im surprised myself...well um... wen it cmes 2 EHM..i lws get carries away..dont i?..😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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niku geetha shravz...

well i singled out virat coz he is the one who loves manvi to death...if virat isn't concerned [rather cv's forget to make him so]...i can't see viren losing sleep over it...virat promised to put M's health over every other thing n all we see is over dragged scenes of J n virat crying with each other over VM LS...
n as i keep repeating its from that tym that cancer started losing importance n now its just crossed its limit with M's magical hair growth...
n about manvi being sidelined...well as far as jeeman is concerned both sisters make a complete whole..sometimes one will be in the forefront..at tyms the other...but yes even i agree virman are being handled terribly which irritates me as well coz i see a very very promising couple getting lost somewhere... the balance is always in question...when manvi was thinking about virat back in march-april during the maya track...we didn't have a single JM convo in weeks..n now its happening after virman gets their confession...
everyone is complaining about cancer...jeeman virman virika...but what i protested against was JM being blamed for everything starting from ignoring cancer to story being destroyed..frankly the downfall has started way back...


n niku...
silent readers do not necessarily quote you out of context in other threads just to critisize...n when i said that i wasn't meaning people like you who appreciate..

Edited by ita_04 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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well i singled out virat coz he is the one who loves manvi to death... if virat isn't concerned [rather cv's forget to make him so]...i can't see viren losing sleep over it...virat promised to put M's health over every other thing n all we see is over dragged scenes of J n virat crying with each other over VM LS...

sanhita di--
@red i expected some one would point out this...actually u r ryt...i totally agree that cancer track is very badly sidelined...may be virat wants to marry/stay with mannu asap because that would give him the official ryt of taking care of her...and once he gets engaged to her ,i am sure he will be with maanvi 24/7 and search the best doctor for her..
and that is the reason virman LS is being concentratd now..
Edited by shrav_virman - 13 years ago

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