the caring of Jeevika for Manvi..really!! Edited.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hallow Guys,
I was not regular viewer of ehmmbh. I started watching this show regularly after Virka's marriage. Amidst these episodes 2nd times Jeevika gave me chance to raise finger on her love for Manvi!! 😕
Yesterday's episode, Jevika roughly compelled Manvi to stay away from Virat bt did she observe Manvi's face for a while!! That face was not accepted to keep away her from Virat . Manvi sacrificed her feelings only for respecting her sis's utterance. Nevertheless, jevika had claimed to Viren she knew Manvi so welly!! ohh really!!!!😕 where as, Viren understood every gesture of Virat just a moment..Viren can feel his bro from his insight so easily...what Virat pursuing n wanting viren can catch it without thinking twice( i applaud these 2 bro's relationship)...Truly, Virat said r8 to Jevika," u r not perception Virman's relation the way i m".
Hence, i would like to say, Virat n Viren's bro relationship is more depth than Jevika n Manvi's sis relationship.
Only by weeping can't make relationship strong, for strong relationship its needed to realize each other properly,n i fetched out this lacking in Jevika.
Well, she wants no clashing b/w her maternal home n in-lows...hence, she forced to Manvi n she excused she has responsible on Manvi..but has she no responsible on Virat?? Does she not bahu of Narain family??..if yes, then why does she not discuss about whole matter with both Virman keeping then on same place??!!


I quite disappointed on Jevika's activities ...neither she becomes responsible Bahen nor Bhavi..😵
PSS: Another matter, why does Jevika always ask Manvi about her relationship with Virat showing angry face😕...whats the reason behind of this?? Does it envy?? i hope not.🤔

Give ur views also...n No offence please..😊

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I m understanding Jevika's so called consciousness for Manvi..but does she ever try to be a sis of Virat?? i want 1 time if she keeps Virat on Manvi's place..she will understand how much Virat will be frustrated n broken if he not gets Manvi.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Jeevika is not wrong. She does not want her sister to be defamed. Even Maanvi has not realised her feelings for Viraat and thus her sister is trying to warn her. Like we say ''precaution is better than cure'' :)
What matters to Jeevika is her sister must not be defamed as what she felt in the words of Swamini Bua while Viren is unaware of the thoughts of Swamini Bua to Maanvi, all he can see is the happiness of his brother and is with Maanvi.
Both Jeevika and Viren are right in their concerns to their younger siblings when Viren pushed Virat to realise what really Maanvi means to him, Jeevika could not do the same, she asked Maanvi but Maanvi denied and she felt that it is better to take distance from this friendship rather than in the long run it grows into something deeper and Maanvi has to bear the wrath of swamini bua.
The only thing is as viewers, we know that it is a little late on the warning as Maanvi has already grown used to Viraat and will be a little difficult for her to keep her away from him , she has said the same to Jeevika and prefered to make Virat to take distance from her.
Maanvi does not want Jeevika to run into problems because of her and Jeevika does not want Maanvi to be bad mouthed in her in laws as she can not hear it, she wants Viren to clear it.
Viren does not want to clear it because he knows how Viraat feels for Maanvi and can not say to Jeevika and so indirectly the allegations from Maya and Swamini bhua can be right.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Du_Nish

Jeevika is not wrong. She does not want her sister to be defamed. Even Maanvi has not realised her feelings for Viraat and thus her sister is trying to warn her. Like we say ''precaution is better than cure'' :)

What matters to Jeevika is her sister must not be defamed as what she felt in the words of Swamini Bua while Viren is unaware of the thoughts of Swamini Bua to Maanvi, all he can see is the happiness of his brother and is with Maanvi.
Both Jeevika and Viren are right in their concerns to their younger siblings when Viren pushed Virat to realise what really Maanvi means to him, Jeevika could not do the same, she asked Maanvi but Maanvi denied and she felt that it is better to take distance from this friendship rather than in the long run it grows into something deeper and Maanvi has to bear the wrath of swamini bua.
The only thing is as viewers, we know that it is a little late on the warning as Maanvi has already grown used to Viraat and will be a little difficult for her to keep her away from him , she has said the same to Jeevika and prefered to make Virat to take distance from her.
Maanvi does not want Jeevika to run into problems because of her and Jeevika does not want Maanvi to be bad mouthed in her in laws as she can not hear it, she wants Viren to clear it.
Viren does not want to clear it because he knows how Viraat feels for Maanvi and can not say to Jeevika and so indirectly the allegations from Maya and Swamini bhua can be right.


well, i know Manvi's feeling for Virat still as bud...but her heart is not allowed to stay away from Virat..n i want this matter Jevika should have to aware without only hearing Manvi's talked...hence, i contrasted b/w Viren n Jevika's thought...now tell me, what will Jevika do when she knows Virmaan relationship in future?? Will she say Manvi to sacrifice her love for both families respect or not will she confront Sawamini Bua n make understanding her for Maniv's love??
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Guys, not necessary to agree wth me atleast give ur's personal view.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ogive_nab

Hallow Guys,
I was not regular viewer of ehmmbh. I started watching this show regularly after Virka's marriage. Amidst these episodes 2nd times Jeevika gave me chance to raise finger on her love for Manvi!! 😕
Yesterday's episode, Jevika roughly compelled Manvi to stay away from Virat bt did she observe Manvi's face for a while!! That face was not accepted to keep away her from Virat . Manvi sacrificed her feelings only for respecting her sis's utterance. Nevertheless, jevika had claimed to Viren she knew Manvi so welly!! ohh really!!!!😕 where as, Viren understood every gesture of Virat just a moment..Viren can feel his bro from his insight so easily...what Virat pursuing n wanting viren can catch it without thinking twice( i applaud these 2 bro's relationship)...Truly, Virat said r8 to Jevika," u r not perception Virman's relation the way i m".
Hence, i would like to say, Virat n Viren's bro relationship is more depth than Jevika n Manvi's sis relationship.
Only by weeping can't make relationship strong, for strong relationship its needed to realize each other properly,n i fetched out this lacking in Jevika.
Well, she wants no clashing b/w her maternal home n in-lows...hence, she forced to Manvi n she excused she has responsible on Manvi..but has she no responsible on Virat?? Does she not bahu of Narain family??..if yes, then why does she not discuss about whole matter with both Virman keeping then on same place??!!
I quite disappointed on Jevika's activities ...neither she becomes responsible Bahen nor Bhavi..😵
PSS: Another matter, why does Jevika always ask Manvi about her relationship with Virat showing angry face😕...whats the matter behind of this?? Does it envy?? i hope not.🤔

Give ur views also...n No offence please..😊


Its not that jeevika has not realised maanvi and Virat's feelings for each othr... As a matter of fact, Subconsciously, she HAS.
She simply does not want to accept it. We all kno that Jeevika-Maanvi's relationship is really close as sister's. Well its not just a sister's relationship. Since the time they lost their parents, it has also been sumthin of a parent child relationship, where jeevika is the parent (or u can call Mother for a more Protective relationship) and Maanvi is the child (or natkhat daughter who keeps gettin into trouble).
to every mother no matter how old her Daughter grows, she is still a child (or bachchi in Jeevika's words to Viren) in the Mother's eyes. I think the most difficult phase for a mother will be to actually realise her daughter is grown up when its time to get her married.

Back to the point, Subconsciously Jeevika HAS realised Maanvi's feeling for Virat, Its the reason why she keeps telling Maanvi to stay away from Virat. Coz:
1 - what if Virat doesnt return Maanvi's feelings (Note: Jeevika still doesnt know that Virat is madly in luv with her sister)
2 - What if Swamini Bua and Vadhera Family refuse to accept Maanvi?
3 - Virat is not yet a serious guy in life, doesnt work, hangs out with frnds, bade ghar ka bigda ladka n all that, inshort not willing to take responsibility in life.
4 - God knows what many reasons.

It'll just hurt Maanvi more and like a typical, protective Mother Hen, Jeevika doesnt want to see Maanvi hurt so subconsciouly she's trying to kill any love Maanvi has for Virat by asking her Mannu to stay away frm him.

This is the depth and analysis of their relationship from my POV.

2nd relationship: Viren-Virat:
this relationship is just as deep as Jeevika Maanvi but not as close. Why, Jeevika and Maanvi can feel when the other might be in trouble, not Viren-Virat (atleast i havent seen any such episodes where viren-virat do. do tel me if am wrong).

Viren is just an Elder Brother, philosopher and Guide to Virat. But Not a Parent the way Jeevika is to Maanvi. Virat has a mother to worry for him and a Father like Dadaji to keep him in check. Jeevika is Mother, Father AND Sister to Maanvi.

So why is it that Viren can understand Virat's feelings for Maanvi when Jeevika is incapable of doin so?
Answer is in my earlier statement: Viren is just an Elder Brother to Virat while Jeevika is Mother, Father AND Sister to Maanvi.
The extra relationships put extra pressure on Jeevika to think from all directions.
Just the way Viren and Dadaji understood that Maya is not right for Virat, Jeevika's Subconscious Motherly Instincts make her see the ineligibilty of Virat as Life partner and also the chance that the Vadhera's may refuse to accept Maanvi. Viren sees all of it in Jeevika which is why he didnt tell her that Virat has gone to rishikesh to propose to Maanvi.

(in Bold and Blue), even i feel the same.
(Its my analysis) that Jeevika is (again subconsciously) a little Selfish to Share Her Mannu with anyone. She wants all the love, focus and attention of her sister, be the center of her world. If Maanvi falls in love with Virat or anyone, Jeevika will havta share that love and attention, which i think she doesnt want to.

Which is why she tells Viren that Maanvi is still a bachchi and Tells Maanvi 'Tu ab bachchi nahin rahi. Badi ho gayi hai tu. 21 saal ki'. This dialogue shows her motherly protectiveness and her selfishness acc to me
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sigh, I am simply waiting for the day when Virika and Virat will come to know that their Maanvi has cancer. The pain in Jeevika and Virat's eyes, their over protectiveness, it'll all come to surface. I hope Virat-Jeevika fight with each othr over her treatment and how to luk aftr her. It'll make Maanvi-Viren's haalat even more amusing. Whose side will they take?
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Originally posted by: fiddub


Its not that jeevika has not realised maanvi and Virat's feelings for each othr... As a matter of fact, Subconsciously, she HAS.
She simply does not want to accept it. We all kno that Jeevika-Maanvi's relationship is really close as sister's. Well its not just a sister's relationship. Since the time they lost their parents, it has also been sumthin of a parent child relationship, where jeevika is the parent (or u can call Mother for a more Protective relationship) and Maanvi is the child (or natkhat daughter who keeps gettin into trouble).
to every mother no matter how old her Daughter grows, she is still a child (or bachchi in Jeevika's words to Viren) in the Mother's eyes. I think the most difficult phase for a mother will be to actually realise her daughter is grown up when its time to get her married.

Back to the point, Subconsciously Jeevika HAS realised Maanvi's feeling for Virat, Its the reason why she keeps telling Maanvi to stay away from Virat. Coz:
1 - what if Virat doesnt return Maanvi's feelings (Note: Jeevika still doesnt know that Virat is madly in luv with her sister)
2 - What if Swamini Bua and Vadhera Family refuse to accept Maanvi?
3 - Virat is not yet a serious guy in life, doesnt work, hangs out with frnds, bade ghar ka bigda ladka n all that, inshort not willing to take responsibility in life.
4 - God knows what many reasons.

It'll just hurt Maanvi more and like a typical, protective Mother Hen, Jeevika doesnt want to see Maanvi hurt so subconsciouly she's trying to kill any love Maanvi has for Virat by asking her Mannu to stay away frm him.

This is the depth and analysis of their relationship from my POV.

2nd relationship: Viren-Virat:
this relationship is just as deep as Jeevika Maanvi but not as close. Why, Jeevika and Maanvi can feel when the other might be in trouble, not Viren-Virat (atleast i havent seen any such episodes where viren-virat do. do tel me if am wrong).

Viren is just an Elder Brother, philosopher and Guide to Virat. But Not a Parent the way Jeevika is to Maanvi. Virat has a mother to worry for him and a Father like Dadaji to keep him in check. Jeevika is Mother, Father AND Sister to Maanvi.

So why is it that Viren can understand Virat's feelings for Maanvi when Jeevika is incapable of doin so?
Answer is in my earlier statement: Viren is just an Elder Brother to Virat while Jeevika is Mother, Father AND Sister to Maanvi.
The extra relationships put extra pressure on Jeevika to think from all directions.
Just the way Viren and Dadaji understood that Maya is not right for Virat, Jeevika's Subconscious Motherly Instincts make her see the ineligibilty of Virat as Life partner and also the chance that the Vadhera's may refuse to accept Maanvi. Viren sees all of it in Jeevika which is why he didnt tell her that Virat has gone to rishikesh to propose to Maanvi.

(in Bold and Blue), even i feel the same.
(Its my analysis) that Jeevika is (again subconsciously) a little Selfish to Share Her Mannu with anyone. She wants all the love, focus and attention of her sister, be the center of her world. If Maanvi falls in love with Virat or anyone, Jeevika will havta share that love and attention, which i think she doesnt want to.

Which is why she tells Viren that Maanvi is still a bachchi and Tells Maanvi 'Tu ab bachchi nahin rahi. Badi ho gayi hai tu. 21 saal ki'. This dialogue shows her motherly protectiveness and her selfishness acc to me

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: fiddub

Sigh, I am simply waiting for the day when Virika and Virat will come to know that their Maanvi has cancer. The pain in Jeevika and Virat's eyes, their over protectiveness, it'll all come to surface. I hope Virat-Jeevika fight with each othr over her treatment and how to luk aftr her. It'll make Maanvi-Viren's haalat even more amusing. Whose side will they take?


thanx for ur nice replying. Ya, this is the most precious track fr viewers when jevika n virat wl know abt manvi's cancer.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Actually I agree with you. I don't know why people can't see the difference in relationships here. Jeevika might be Manvi's mother, father and sister, but despite that, she doesn't know her sister like Viren knows Virat. I had this thought in mind ever since the episode when Virat boldly tells his brother about Jeevika and Manan! He knew his brother loves Jeevika, but he knew that finding out later will break him more, so he took a responsible and mature step for his brother!

Until now, I have seen nothing between the sisters besides weeping and oh-so famous dialogues! I abosulutely loved the track when Manvi was trying to break the marriage, but at that time, she had a reason. She did see something between Jeevika and Manan. But what makes Jeevika keep Virat away from Manvi other than her bahu-vrata? Maybe she can't see the love in Virat's eyes, but can't she see the happiness Manvi feels when Virat is around her? I hope we see a change in Jeevka soon. Neither did I see enough of Jeevika. It was always Manvi who sacrficed for her dead sister, and Jeevika can't speak up against her sasural? Maybe am judging her a bit too much, I should wait for the track that might change this. But honestly, I love the brother binding more. They have no cliched dialogues, no weeping, and they still make me aww! They will always be my favorite jodi!

If it were to me, I did make this show "Ek Karodo Mein Mera Bhai Hai!"

Note : No offence to JeeMan fans! Or anyone for that matter.
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Originally posted by: fiddub


Its not that jeevika has not realised maanvi and Virat's feelings for each othr... As a matter of fact, Subconsciously, she HAS.
She simply does not want to accept it. We all kno that Jeevika-Maanvi's relationship is really close as sister's. Well its not just a sister's relationship. Since the time they lost their parents, it has also been sumthin of a parent child relationship, where jeevika is the parent (or u can call Mother for a more Protective relationship) and Maanvi is the child (or natkhat daughter who keeps gettin into trouble).
to every mother no matter how old her Daughter grows, she is still a child (or bachchi in Jeevika's words to Viren) in the Mother's eyes. I think the most difficult phase for a mother will be to actually realise her daughter is grown up when its time to get her married.

Back to the point, Subconsciously Jeevika HAS realised Maanvi's feeling for Virat, Its the reason why she keeps telling Maanvi to stay away from Virat. Coz:
1 - what if Virat doesnt return Maanvi's feelings (Note: Jeevika still doesnt know that Virat is madly in luv with her sister)
2 - What if Swamini Bua and Vadhera Family refuse to accept Maanvi?
3 - Virat is not yet a serious guy in life, doesnt work, hangs out with frnds, bade ghar ka bigda ladka n all that, inshort not willing to take responsibility in life.
4 - God knows what many reasons.

It'll just hurt Maanvi more and like a typical, protective Mother Hen, Jeevika doesnt want to see Maanvi hurt so subconsciouly she's trying to kill any love Maanvi has for Virat by asking her Mannu to stay away frm him.

This is the depth and analysis of their relationship from my POV.

2nd relationship: Viren-Virat:
this relationship is just as deep as Jeevika Maanvi but not as close. Why, Jeevika and Maanvi can feel when the other might be in trouble, not Viren-Virat (atleast i havent seen any such episodes where viren-virat do. do tel me if am wrong).

Viren is just an Elder Brother, philosopher and Guide to Virat. But Not a Parent the way Jeevika is to Maanvi. Virat has a mother to worry for him and a Father like Dadaji to keep him in check. Jeevika is Mother, Father AND Sister to Maanvi.

So why is it that Viren can understand Virat's feelings for Maanvi when Jeevika is incapable of doin so?
Answer is in my earlier statement: Viren is just an Elder Brother to Virat while Jeevika is Mother, Father AND Sister to Maanvi.
The extra relationships put extra pressure on Jeevika to think from all directions.
Just the way Viren and Dadaji understood that Maya is not right for Virat, Jeevika's Subconscious Motherly Instincts make her see the ineligibilty of Virat as Life partner and also the chance that the Vadhera's may refuse to accept Maanvi. Viren sees all of it in Jeevika which is why he didnt tell her that Virat has gone to rishikesh to propose to Maanvi.

(in Bold and Blue), even i feel the same.
(Its my analysis) that Jeevika is (again subconsciously) a little Selfish to Share Her Mannu with anyone. She wants all the love, focus and attention of her sister, be the center of her world. If Maanvi falls in love with Virat or anyone, Jeevika will havta share that love and attention, which i think she doesnt want to.

Which is why she tells Viren that Maanvi is still a bachchi and Tells Maanvi 'Tu ab bachchi nahin rahi. Badi ho gayi hai tu. 21 saal ki'. This dialogue shows her motherly protectiveness and her selfishness acc to me

Quite an interesting take. There are many perspectives you can take from Jeevika's stand and I think that's why the sisters relationship is more debated. With the brothers, it's a straight-forward, easy going relationship where both will be there for each other and there's hardly ever any disagreement. Where as the sisters, their whole emotional attachment towards each other is so unstable that you don't know what will trigger what kind of reaction. The reason why the brothers are in sync is because it's not their relationship which drives the show forward. You need the problems and conflicts for the drama which mainly comes from the sisters so there will be instances where J & M will upset each other and seem to not understand each other but frankly it's a part of their relationship. It's full of emotional upheaval .If they were like the brothers, all 'normal' (which I know some people appreciate more) then there would be no story to tell.

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