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Posted: 8 years ago
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As per Amulya suggestion... I added my reply here..

I loved Shravan and Sumo equally in the beginning and admired Sumo.

Is it not true that she took Shravan always granted from childhood, she understood that he has trust issue and broken completely.

As a friend she should have did things more sensible.

I excepted more from Sumo because we are women and sensible than a man any day.

We are mentally strong, brave and balanced that's why I support Shravan.

If I had Shravan in my life once he back the first thing I would have done to talk with him even he ignores or insulted atleast for first few times.

I would have treasured that man who love me unconditionally.

Even I sacrifice him for my family I would try to ease his pain with different ways

I would kept my self respect intact more gracefully without making a fuss.

I would never let him drift.

I want Sumo to be more matured and sensible after knowing how bad parents he has

So this Suman don't deserve Shravan.

I am not blessed in my life to have such a man in my life.
Edited by sneha_17 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: sneha_17

As per Amulya suggestion... I added my reply here..


I loved Shravan and Sumo equally in the beginning and admired Sumo.

Is it not true that she took Shravan always granted from childhood, she understood that he has trust issue and broken completely.

As a friend she should have did things more sensible.

I excepted more from Sumo because we are women and sensible than a man any day.

We are mentally strong, brave and balanced that's why I support Shravan.

If I had Shravan in my life once he back the first thing I would have done to talk with him even he ignores or insulted atleast for first few times.

I would have treasured that man who love me unconditionally.

Even I sacrifice him for my family I would try to ease his pain with different ways

I would kept my self respect intact more gracefully without making a fuss.

I would never let him drift.

I want Sumo to be more matured and sensible after knowing how bad parents he has

So this Suman don't deserve Shravan.

I am not blessed in my life to have such a man in my life.



I appreciate your opinion now that you have explained why you think so.

I agree with a lot of what you said but perhaps not all of it. But that's okay, we all are entitled to our own opinions 😊

I think that both Shravan and Sumo have been victims of the games that have been played by people close to them.

Again, I think it depends per person in terms of how strong we are and not the gender. In this case Sumo is emotionally stronger, however I also think that everyone has a certain limit to what they can bear, and Shravan may have crossed that.
Sumo was also not free to express her emotions to him because of the promise she made to Ramnath. think at that point she was filled with hurt, and she herself didn't know what to do.

Shravan had started to drift a long time ago, and the actions of the people around him (read Ramnath) accelerated this process. I think it came down to such a situation that not even Sumo could bring him back. And truly it is now up to Ramnath and Nirmala.

Sumo has also been on an emotional rollercoaster, with the Aditya incident and then right after her wedding with Shravan, and how he took her to the court. If you tease a wounded tiger, she/he will retaliate, and that is what both of them did.

I see your point of view, but in my point of view they both should be treated the same and if he is rude to her and she retaliates, that should be viewed s the same if it were to happen the other way around.


Having said all of that, I want to thank you for explaining your point of view and allowing me the chance to understand 😊

I guess we can, amiably and without any negativity, just agree to disagree 😛
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sneha_17

As per Amulya suggestion... I added my reply here..


I loved Shravan and Sumo equally in the beginning and admired Sumo.

Is it not true that she took Shravan always granted from childhood, she understood that he has trust issue and broken completely.

As a friend she should have did things more sensible.

I excepted more from Sumo because we are women and sensible than a man any day.

We are mentally strong, brave and balanced that's why I support Shravan.

If I had Shravan in my life once he back the first thing I would have done to talk with him even he ignores or insulted atleast for first few times.

I would have treasured that man who love me unconditionally.

Even I sacrifice him for my family I would try to ease his pain with different ways

I would kept my self respect intact more gracefully without making a fuss.

I would never let him drift.

I want Sumo to be more matured and sensible after knowing how bad parents he has

So this Suman don't deserve Shravan.

I am not blessed in my life to have such a man in my life.



I want to say that I respectfully disagree with you completely. And it is possible to love someone while recognising their weaknesses.
First of all- women are stronger, more balanced is just honestly so discrimatory. It is not true at all. People are people. Some are strong, some are weak, some are emotional, and some are all of these at different points in life. To say that is to do a disservice to men. I'm honestly wondering why you would think that.
As for sumo- I remember Shravan insulting her so many times. Not "one-two" times. Is her mental health not as important? Is it okay for Shravan to insult her publicly and privately because he "loves " her? The fact is that people ca love you and you can love them but it still would not mean that it was a healthy or happy relationship. Perhaps there are better ways to deal with Shravan- but sumo clearly does not know how to and she has tried hard enough. Time to let go.
We do not have the power to "make sure people don't drift"! Shravan is a grown man. If he has not learnt this much by now I doubt he ever will. You can take the donkey to a well but you cannot make him drink water! I'm not saying it can never happen- there are people who really can work miracles and can change people. But I feel at 26- people are the way they are. Nothing is impossible.
In GOOD relationships- love is not enough and neither is it the most important- respect, maturity, communication, trust- all these are equally important.
Sumo has tried quite enough- change should come from within.

Now let me tell you an anecdote. My best friend from 7th std is a guy who has had a terrible homelife. His father is a guy who hits his mom and his mom has a lot of problems. Not leaving her son problems but yelling at him, telling him bad words, sleepwalking and leaving their apartment at 2 in the night kind of problems. His dad then left his mom and has another family while being married to both women.
I will leave it up to you to think if his homelife compares to the fictional Shravans.

My friend has problems- he gets anxious, he's very. Particular about certain stuff, has gone to therapy because he was depressed. But you know what my friend is not- CRUEL, vicious, mean. He gets angry at seemingly little things and we have had more fights that I can count. But we have always made up and never ever have either of us crossed a line while fighting. I have my insecurities and never has a fight escalated to a level where he would use something that would truly hurt me. He loves me and I love him. Completely platonic relationship. What I'm trying to say is that the world can be a hard and unfair place but yet we love and flourish. My friend is the most positive and strong guy I know. He sends me these super positive texts and when he feels like everything is too much he calls and we talk. He tells me how he feels, why life sucks and shit. I listen. He does not blame the world for his issues and does not act like woe is me. Oh and he's far far younger than Shravan. And it's not just me. We re a group of 4 friends. We all help him. If he ever crosses a line - I don't know if I would forgive him. I might not. Just because he loves me doesn't give him the right to hurt me. And just because I love him it doesn't mean I could forgive him. But you know what it's imaginary- because my friend is respectful, kind, empathetic and intelligent. He has CHOSEN to be this way. He chooses to do yoga and calm himself. He doesn't unfairly lash out at people. We are who we choose to be. I hope you can take something away from my real life.

I urge you to think more carefully.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@nirja you are right being physically or emotionally strong doesn't depend on the gender. But our society wants the women to be more understanding and sacrificing because they have been doing the same since years. Honestly for me this taboo will never change. But our sumo dear is not like that she had her own flaws and so does shravan. We need to stop arguing about who is wrong here. They both just don't communicate with each other being bffs
Ps: hats off to you friend for being too positive in his life 👏 I wish you both all the happiness in the world 🤗
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: muskiii

@nirja you are right being physically or emotionally strong doesn't depend on the gender. But our society wants the women to be more understanding and sacrificing because they have been doing the same since years. Honestly for me this taboo will never change. But our sumo dear is not like that she had her own flaws and so does shravan. We need to stop arguing about who is wrong here. They both just don't communicate with each other being bffs
Ps: hats off to you friend for being too positive in his life 👏 I wish you both all the happiness in the world 🤗



Thank you so much muski:) exactly.. Have you ever seen friends let alone bffs who don't communicate ?! I honestly told this story because I feel that Sneha has a romanticised version of this guy and I would honestly if worried if a guy like Shravan came into any woman's life.

PS: thanks you so much! He's a great guy. Don't get me wrong - he can be really mean at times but he never ever crossed the "Lakshman Rekha" . And his life was so terrible that he used to come to my house for dinner everyday because of no dinner or something at his house. So yeah.. Hope he's happy always :) I wish lots of happiness too:):)
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Posted: 8 years ago
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The Suman we are seeing today is not the Sumo we saw in the beginning, its the fact..
Shravan had lot of issues but until Preekar wedding , he was not that bad

Sumo knows about Ramanath and its manipulation

Please Guys, our Sumo was more matured and sensible but CVs destroyed her character

When you are depressed and trust issues , how much ever intelligent you are you can't think straight that what happened with Shravan, the person he loved and trusted him manipulated him very badly

I believe the person I love..

Self respect is not just respecting your ethics and principles, it also about respecting others feeling

Noone handle anything in a right way and drifted

I support Shravan as he was broken soul, small help from Sumo would have fixed him

I preferred she handled Ramanath better and saved Shravan..

She failed as a friend in then (being mature) and now (don't know why)
Edited by sneha_17 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: sneha_17

The Suman we are seeing today is not the Sumo we saw in the beginning, its the fact..

Shravan had lot of issues but until Preekar wedding , he was not that bad

Sumo knows about Ramanath and its manipulation

Please Guys, our Sumo was more matured and sensible but CVs destroyed her character

When you are depressed and trust issues , how much ever intelligent you are you can't think straight that what happened with Shravan, the person he loved and trusted him manipulated him very badly

I believe the person I love..

Self respect is not respecting your ethics and principles, it also about respecting others feeling

Noone handle anything in a right way and drifted

I support Shravan as he was broken soul, small help from Sumo would have fixed him

I preferred she handled Ramanath better and saved Shravan..

She failed as a friend in then (being mature) and now (don't know why)


I think you got the meaning of self-respect all wrong. Its exactly what you're stating as not, self-respect as per me is valuing one's own values and principles while respect is valuing others feelings and emotions.


Suman did once try to relieve Shravan off his burden by reuniting him with Niru but it backlashed so bad that they din't see eye-eye for many days, lost her PCT and then her accident happened. Now how many times can a girl try to change the person she loves even when she is being rebuked for it like getting punished!! She isn't a goddess and she too is a human and certainly has her own limits. I personally an a Pantheist ad so I don't pray but people do say that god doesn't give anything without praying for it. So, when even god doesn't give out that easily we're still just his creation.

How could she handle Rammy!! I don't think that was ever possible without hurting Shravan and she chose not hurting him.

For me she passed as a human even if you think (I don't think so) she failed as a friend or lover.
Edited by --Amulya-- - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sneha_17

The Suman we are seeing today is not the Sumo we saw in the beginning, its the fact..

Shravan had lot of issues but until Preekar wedding , he was not that bad
Right he had issues with her and it was sorted by sumo. She was the one who was running behind him when he started ignoring her (i wonder why shravan couldn't do the same during preekar1wedding)
Sumo knows about Ramanath and its manipulation

Please Guys, our Sumo was more matured and sensible but CVs destroyed her character
No she has always been immature and egoistic. Dont you remember the episode when she was saying sorry to shravan. Itni bhi badi baat nahi thi and all that crap.(i hated her there) and she prooved her nature in many episodes

When you are depressed and trust issues , how much ever intelligent you are you can't think straight that what happened with Shravan, the person he loved and trusted him manipulated him very badly
True shravan has been manipulated a lot that too by the person he loved and respected a lot. I dont call it his stupidity now. Its his nature (good)

I believe the person I love..

Self respect is not respecting your ethics and principles, it also about respecting others feeling
Yes👏
Noone handle anything in a right way and drifted

I support Shravan as he was broken soul, small help from Sumo would have fixed him
Agreed. She always knew that she had the key ti his heart.

I preferred she handled Ramanath better and saved Shravan.
Dont get me started on her stupid, MAHAAN crap. All this was done to keep you away from your farher🤪

She failed as a friend in then (being mature) and now (don't know why)

Edited by muskiii - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Amulya--


I think you got the meaning of self-respect all wrong. Its exactly what you're stating as not, self-respect as per me is valuing one's own values and principles while respect is valuing others feelings and emotions.


Suman did once try to relieve Shravan off his burden by reuniting him with Niru but it backlashed so bad that they din't see eye-eye for many days, lost her PCT and then her accident happened. Now how many times can a girl try to change the person she loves even when she is being rebuked for it like getting punished!! She isn't a goddess and she too is a human and certainly has her own limits. I personally an a Pantheist ad so I don't pray but people do say that god doesn't give anything without praying for it. So, when even god doesn't give out that easily we're still just his creation.

How could she handle Rammy!! I don't think that was ever possible without hurting Shravan and she chose not hurting him.

For me she passed as a human even if you think (I don't think so) she failed as a friend or lover.


I meant the below

Self respect is not just respecting your ethics and principles, it also about respecting others feeling
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Posted: 8 years ago
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When we start respecting others feelings more then somewhere in between we tend to loose our own moral values. Both ours and others feelings and values if don't match, will always clash and they can't go mutually together.

Compromise is of course necessary in life but we must still be able to keep our self-respect (valuing our own moral values) intact.

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