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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: saras_7

Aditya is not an evil guy. He has very good ethics & is a very friendly human being. He was the one who helped Sumo initially when Shravan left Sumo in middle of the dance floor. Shravan left Sumo as if to go to hell with it. Aditya jumped in & saved Sumo from embarrassment, and he helped her with her business as well. Aditya also bought an expensive dress for Sumo, when she couldn't afford for Preeti's marriage. That is the kind of pure love Aditya has for Sumo. Shravan never purchased anything for Sumo. Shravan was always arrogant and just spoiled by taking away PCT from Suman. SHRAVAN HAS NO LOVE & IS ALWAYS IN A HIDING ZONE. Shravan uses people according to his needs & wants & is very rude & egoistic. He doesn't have feelings nor does he care about others. HE HATES WOMEN. SHRAVAN HAS NO LOVE FOR SUMO & HE IS A COMPLETELY SELFISH PERSON. HE IS CONFUSED BETWEEN INFATUATION & LOVE. SHRAVAN SHOULD STOP THINKING NEGATIVELY ABOUT PEOPLE TRAPPING OTHERS. HE HAS THAT ATTITUDE, THAT IS THE REASON WHY HE FEELS OTHERS ARE MISLEADING. PEOPLE WITH SHRAVAN'S ATTITUDE CAN NEVER LOVE A GIRL COMPLETELY & DO JUSTICE TO THEIR LOVE & RELATIONSHIP. Take a break Shravan & get your mind cleared.

Shravan was the one who created all these situations & misunderstandings between Aditya & Sumo by BSing with Aditya about Suman. So, SHRAVAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ADITYA's BEHAVIOR & ADI-SUMAN BREAKUP.

If SHRAVAN for a second was placed in ADITYA's character, would he accept his fiancee to have relationship before marriage? Will you accept that GIRL ? WILL YOU HAVE A HAPPY MARRIED LIFE SHRAVAN? CAN YOU BE PEACEFUL? NOT RIGHT - SIMILARLY WITH ADITYA. ADITYA IS ALSO A HUMAN BEING.

"HEROISM - IS NOT BY LOOKS,HEIGHT,NOR HOW HANDSOME A PERSON LOOKS. THESE ARE ALL TEMPORARY & SUPERFICIAL. THEY WILL WIPE AWAY SOMEDAY.
RATHER A HERO SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO CARES FOR THE ONE HE LOVES & GOES TO ANY EXTENT WHERE HE DOESN'T HURT HIS LOVE, & DOESN'T BREAK HER HEART".

P.S. - Not all girls have relationships before marriage. There are girls who are very strict, disciplined, pure & who maintain their virginity & respect their relationships with their "HUSBAND". If Husband&Wife's relationship is PURE & UNDERSTANDING & WIFE IS GOOD-NATURED, WIFE WILL GO TO ANY EXTENT to satisfy HUSBAND'S NEEDS & WANTS. THERE ARE SOME GIRLS WHO RESPECT THIER HUSBANDS & MARRIAGE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. I think somebody's opinions is a bit off track. Please read through from others perspectives & please apologize for saying incorrect things about Girls/ladies.




Wow! *slow clap* You have understood Aditya sooo well!!🤔
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Posted: 9 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: saras_7

Aditya is not an evil guy. He has very good ethics & is a very friendly human being. He was the one who helped Sumo initially when Shravan left Sumo in middle of the dance floor. Shravan left Sumo as if to go to hell with it. Aditya jumped in & saved Sumo from embarrassment, and he helped her with her business as well. Aditya also bought an expensive dress for Sumo, when she couldn't afford for Preeti's marriage. That is the kind of pure love Aditya has for Sumo. Shravan never purchased anything for Sumo.

😆😆😆 : either you're joking or you need a shake-up! Proof of love is buying an expensive dress? Ahem. Girl, if a woman can't buy herself an expensive dress, she shouldn't wear one. If you need a man to buy you a dress, then what are you good for? Buy your own dresses! Suman, if she wasn't exploited by her family, and didn't let herself get exploited, can buy herself all the expensive dresses she wants. Why does she need Shravan or Aditya for that?

Shravan was always arrogant and just spoiled by taking away PCT from Suman. SHRAVAN HAS NO LOVE & IS ALWAYS IN A HIDING ZONE. Shravan uses people according to his needs & wants & is very rude & egoistic. He doesn't have feelings nor does he care about others. HE HATES WOMEN. SHRAVAN HAS NO LOVE FOR SUMO & HE IS A COMPLETELY SELFISH PERSON. HE IS CONFUSED BETWEEN INFATUATION & LOVE. SHRAVAN SHOULD STOP THINKING NEGATIVELY ABOUT PEOPLE TRAPPING OTHERS. HE HAS THAT ATTITUDE, THAT IS THE REASON WHY HE FEELS OTHERS ARE MISLEADING. PEOPLE WITH SHRAVAN'S ATTITUDE CAN NEVER LOVE A GIRL COMPLETELY & DO JUSTICE TO THEIR LOVE & RELATIONSHIP. Take a break Shravan & get your mind cleared.

Shravan was the one who created all these situations & misunderstandings between Aditya & Sumo by BSing with Aditya about Suman. So, SHRAVAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ADITYA's BEHAVIOR & ADI-SUMAN BREAKUP.

I agree that Shravan is an arrogant asshole, especially when driven by his parent to be one. His father does shove misogyny into him, and that's why, he isn't such a great husband material. But Aditya molested a woman, just because he's physically stronger than her. Personally I would advise a girl to send such a guy's ass to jail. If you misunderstand someone, you molest them? You can ask them questions, in private (if you're decent), in public (if you're an asshole), but you CANNOT MOLEST ANOTHER HUMAN BEING AND PASS OFF THE RESPONSIBILITY TO SOMEONE ELSE. If you believe anyone other than a moletser is responsible for his or her own act, you're so deluded.


If SHRAVAN for a second was placed in ADITYA's character, would he accept his fiancee to have relationship before marriage? Will you accept that GIRL ? WILL YOU HAVE A HAPPY MARRIED LIFE SHRAVAN? CAN YOU BE PEACEFUL? NOT RIGHT - SIMILARLY WITH ADITYA. ADITYA IS ALSO A HUMAN BEING.

"HEROISM - IS NOT BY LOOKS,HEIGHT,NOR HOW HANDSOME A PERSON LOOKS. THESE ARE ALL TEMPORARY & SUPERFICIAL. THEY WILL WIPE AWAY SOMEDAY.
RATHER A HERO SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO CARES FOR THE ONE HE LOVES & GOES TO ANY EXTENT WHERE HE DOESN'T HURT HIS LOVE, & DOESN'T BREAK HER HEART".

So the way to a woman's heart is through expensive dresses, and by treating them like objects and property? 😡 😡 😡 You're sure you aren't a man posing as a woman on this forum?

P.S. - Not all girls have relationships before marriage. There are girls who are very strict, disciplined, pure & who maintain their virginity & respect their relationships with their "HUSBAND". If Husband&Wife's relationship is PURE & UNDERSTANDING & WIFE IS GOOD-NATURED, WIFE WILL GO TO ANY EXTENT to satisfy HUSBAND'S NEEDS & WANTS. THERE ARE SOME GIRLS WHO RESPECT THIER HUSBANDS & MARRIAGE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. I think somebody's opinions is a bit off track. Please read through from others perspectives & please apologize for saying incorrect things about Girls/ladies.

A woman has every right to sleep with who she wants and when she wants as long as she is prepared for the consequences. It DOES NOT AFFECT her purity. Please get rid of the patriarchal notion that women are cattle, and men their shepherds. If you are indeed a woman, you're a brainwashed apology for one. I do not recommend either men or women sleep around indiscriminately, but if they do, their purity is at an equal level. A woman who sleeps around and a man who does the same should (or not) be s**t-shamed in EQUAL proportions. You need to apologise, if anyone does-- how dare you troll women, and say they must
GO TO ANY EXTENT to satisfy HUSBAND'S NEEDS & WANTS. ?????????


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Very awedome post...i always said the same thing not in such beautiful and lycid manner...but even nimmo..the kameeni...accepted that shravan was responsible for adi molesting sumo...is hdight of her pervertness...yes nimmo is pervert...i don't want cvs to redeem nimmo..she has absolutely no love for her own son...and i want sumo to give a big bhashan to nimmo...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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a vry well said dear...
aditya is such bad person he still blaming shravan for what he does to sumo...yuck even not feeling guilty hadh h...koi kuch bhi aake aditya se bolega aur vo gadha uspe vishwas krlega 😡
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Posted: 9 years ago
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completely agree with you...
great post...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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great post
i fail to understand how women can justify what Aditya did. it is because of this confused thinking that women are in such a terrible situation in society.

if women themselves are confused and unclear about the respect of a woman, how will they teach their sons to respect women and how to behave. how will this tendency be controlled

if you dont have a relationship, what do you tell? suman had nothing to tell. seriously!!!

shravan did bad, but is that a justification for attempted rape?

can there be any justification ever for touching a woman without permission??? even for a husband??
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: saras_7

Aditya is not an evil guy. He has very good ethics & is a very friendly human being. He was the one who helped Sumo initially when Shravan left Sumo in middle of the dance floor. Shravan left Sumo as if to go to hell with it. Aditya jumped in & saved Sumo from embarrassment, and he helped her with her business as well. Aditya also bought an expensive dress for Sumo, when she couldn't afford for Preeti's marriage. That is the kind of pure love Aditya has for Sumo. Shravan never purchased anything for Sumo. Shravan was always arrogant and just spoiled by taking away PCT from Suman. SHRAVAN HAS NO LOVE & IS ALWAYS IN A HIDING ZONE. Shravan uses people according to his needs & wants & is very rude & egoistic. He doesn't have feelings nor does he care about others. HE HATES WOMEN. SHRAVAN HAS NO LOVE FOR SUMO & HE IS A COMPLETELY SELFISH PERSON. HE IS CONFUSED BETWEEN INFATUATION & LOVE. SHRAVAN SHOULD STOP THINKING NEGATIVELY ABOUT PEOPLE TRAPPING OTHERS. HE HAS THAT ATTITUDE, THAT IS THE REASON WHY HE FEELS OTHERS ARE MISLEADING. PEOPLE WITH SHRAVAN'S ATTITUDE CAN NEVER LOVE A GIRL COMPLETELY & DO JUSTICE TO THEIR LOVE & RELATIONSHIP. Take a break Shravan & get your mind cleared.

Shravan was the one who created all these situations & misunderstandings between Aditya & Sumo by BSing with Aditya about Suman. So, SHRAVAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ADITYA's BEHAVIOR & ADI-SUMAN BREAKUP.

If SHRAVAN for a second was placed in ADITYA's character, would he accept his fiancee to have relationship before marriage? Will you accept that GIRL ? WILL YOU HAVE A HAPPY MARRIED LIFE SHRAVAN? CAN YOU BE PEACEFUL? NOT RIGHT - SIMILARLY WITH ADITYA. ADITYA IS ALSO A HUMAN BEING.

"HEROISM - IS NOT BY LOOKS,HEIGHT,NOR HOW HANDSOME A PERSON LOOKS. THESE ARE ALL TEMPORARY & SUPERFICIAL. THEY WILL WIPE AWAY SOMEDAY.
RATHER A HERO SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO CARES FOR THE ONE HE LOVES & GOES TO ANY EXTENT WHERE HE DOESN'T HURT HIS LOVE, & DOESN'T BREAK HER HEART".

P.S. - Not all girls have relationships before marriage. There are girls who are very strict, disciplined, pure & who maintain their virginity & respect their relationships with their "HUSBAND".



Wow, you sound like a narrow-minded MCP...Do this and that for men...Are you a 'man'? Because I can't even consider the possibility of you being a girl and saying all that shit that you have uttered. That's not possible...

Excuse me? Are you trying telling me that I should apologize for thinking that a woman is not a man's possession to own? Or over the fact that woman has rights over their body more than their supposed 'future' husbands do? I didn't get that...

First thing first, lets's stop thinking of him as the mahan atma who only tried to help her. He has been manipulating his way around since the day one. And what you said? He seeing her standing there alone and dancing with her, doesn't prove a thing. I don't know about you, but to me dancing with a girl doesn't prove that a man is a decent human being...

And He helped her with her business, brought her an expensive dress? Are you serious? Is this the justification you are giving to prove his 'pure love'? You don't BUY someone's love. So Aditya buying her a dress and Shravan's not buying her a dress doesn't prove which ones of these idiotic men love her. I don't think you have been watching the show, or know Suman or even any girl for the matter if you think buying an expensive dress is all that it takes to prove someone's love.

Any girl with self-respect would hate the fact that the man is trying to buy her love or attention by giving her expensive gifts. That's insulting. And I don't think you have any idea about girls because if you did, then you would have known that the fact that he brought her the dress by lying to her was a mistake. And btw, you got the facts wrong here, Suman paid for her dress, and she didn't get to know that he had made it appear the it cost less than she thought and paid for. Nahi toh he and you would have known how much a she would have felt insulted. A man buying the girl a dress or anything doesn't prove his love.

And helping her in business? Did you watch the episode? He didn't help her, he manipulated the whole situation. And sorry to say, but manipulation isn't 'love' either.

I am ignoring all that you have said about Shravan because we aren't talking about him here. What he feels for her and what not, is a discussion for the other time...

Excuse me? Are you trying to say that a man with the supposed 'good ethics' and adult, with a functioning brain, was subject by Shravan's evilness and forced on the gun point by him to misbehave with Suman and in the end physically and sexually assault her? Wow! Do you know that after the age of 18 every person is responsible for the crime he/she commits and there are no justifications for whatever that crime is...So anything Shravan said and had done can't be used as a justification for the way Aditya behaved and the assault on Suman...

And anyway, if their relationship and Suman was so important to him, he would have asked her, at least, if what Shravan told was true? And why did the good guy with good ethics believed on an evil like Shravan? Shouldn't Aditya have thought to give Suman who he claims to love a chance to explain herself if he didn't have any trust on her, to begin with? But the suppossed good guy didn't do any such thing, he just believed in whatever was said and punished her...Wow!

I don't know about Shravan, but to a 'man' of this age and time insignificant things like shouldn't matter. I am sorry to say but you seem to have stone age ideas if you keep insisting that women are men's possession and how a woman should not only stay virgin but also not be in any kind of relationship before marriage and if she does, she is wrong and has done a crime aginst her future husband. That's even beyond what I would define as narrow-minded...

And about Aditya, a man who had his own share of fun before he met Suman, wanted her to be his since the day she was born? Wow, why such double standers? Almost all the women do end up married to men who already had countless relationships with countless woman, shouldn't the women feel the same about those men who lost their 'respect'? Why the women get the used goods even though they themselves have preserved their virginity for their future husbands? Why do they have to accept the man they are getting married to with all their flaws and lack of virginity? They are suppossed to not make an issue about it then why do men have all the right to make it an issue?

Do NOT for a second think that a man who think of virginity of a woman as a condition to respect her, love her and marry her is right in his stand. That's not love. If that would have been love, then not any man would have married and loved a woman who had a relationship before, is a divorcee or a widow. Do you even comprehend how wrong and conditional you are making a man's love sound? I am sorry to say, but I have seen men love their wives despite not being the first main in their wives' life. Love is not conditional nor it has any limitation...

I am disgusted by the fact that Aditya thought of less of Suman because she had a relationship before. If she did, so, what? She is +26, was she supposed to live as she chanted 'kab mera Aditya aaye ga? since the day she was born? Is that would that have been right? She owned him NOTHING...No girl owns any man anything...

Okay...So Aditya is your hero? The one who didn't trust the girl he 'loves' and had forced himself her, is that what a hero does? And please, if you think I had said all of that because I think of Shravan as a hero, then you are wrong about that too. Shravan needs to wake up and change himself into a better man, but Aditya has to no redemption quality if he too like you thinks he can get away with putting all the blame on Shravan and stays his narrow-minded disgusting self...

P.s...I agree, not every girl has a relationship before marriage, but that has nothing to do with respecting and not respecting their future husbands. You do realize that the girls aren't married to their future husbands as soon as they are born, right? Because the way you said it, looks like you expect the girls to consider themselves married to their future husbands with their first breath, not matter if one day they do get married or not...

And a girl's respect for marriage and her husband doesn't depend on her virginity. She is a PERSON, not a damn thing which is made only for the husband who may or may not even respect her, let alone love her. Her maintaining her virginity or not, it's her damn business, not anyone else. Her virginity is hers to give, whoever she wants to. If she wants to wait and give it to her future husband or someone she loves, it hers to do with it whatever she wants to. No one has any say in this matter. NOT even their future 'husbands' whom they are not even married to. Losing her virginity doesn't mean she is losing her 'respect', her dignity or her character...

Excuse me? What her virginity has anything to do with being a good wife or having a good husband or having a good married life? I mean, are you serious? Do you want to say the girls who have given their virginity to their husbands aren't beaten and subjected to domestic violence? Are you saying girls are treated with respect just because they gave their virginity to their husbands? Do you even live in the real world? Do you not see the kind of domestic abuse women suffer in our society? And that happens despite the fact that they had 'maintained their virginity' and had been loyal to their husbands for years and years, before and after marriage. And what they get in return? Nothing.

The reality is that a girl being virgin or not doesn't mean a thing. There is no surety that if she is 'maintaining her virginity', she is going to have a good husband or a good married life. A mature and open-minded man is all it takes to have both. If he is any good, and a man in a true sense, his wife's lack of virginity isn't going to stop him from giving her the love and the respect she deserves. That is the man whom I actually call a 'man' because the virginity of her wife or not being the first man in her doesn't make him insecure. He just works on being the 'man' of her life and that's what proves his mardangi...

Assaulting a girl, making her feel less, shaming her isn't what a real man would have done and Aditya has done all of it. And don't not even for a second delude yourself that Shravan has forced her into doing anything he has done...There are no justification, and no matter how much you and he himself try to hide his crime behind Shravan's idiocy, THAT is NOT going to work...

Originally posted by: saras_7

If Husband&Wife's relationship is PURE & UNDERSTANDING & WIFE IS GOOD-NATURED, WIFE WILL GO TO ANY EXTENT to satisfy HUSBAND'S NEEDS & WANTS. THERE ARE SOME GIRLS WHO RESPECT THIER HUSBANDS & MARRIAGE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.


Wow, No matter how much you say hate Shravan, you sure do sound like him. 😲.

Okay, so a wife has to do this and that, and what a husband has to do? How many men wait and save their virginity for their wives? How may men have never been in a relationship before they got married? Ah, did you meant because they are 'men', they can do what the hell they want? Right, right... A girl has to maintain their virginity, and then go to any extent to satisfy their husband's need and want, and this and that, but I heard no word from you on what a GOOD husband has to do...Oh, how silly of me, you see Aditya as the perfect 'man' toh woh hi toh 'perfect' husband ke definition hai, nahi?

Oh, God! You are wrong on so many levels that I can't even find the words to tell you how much I am shocked and disgusted I am after reading what you have written...


Originally posted by: saras_7

I think somebody's opinions is a bit off track. Please read through from others perspectives & please apologize for saying incorrect things about Girls/ladies.


^ On that, I agree, but it's not me, it's you! It's you who is off track and you should apologize for saying incorrect things about Girls/ladies because I guaranty you, not even one girl here will agree with what you have written...
Edited by A.Hajnal - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Oh god.. Someone really sounds like MCP.. What's with girl pravachan to save their home only.. why.. only girls are married kya..? in husband wife relation.. if she is his wife.. n he is too her husband.. n both need to do compromises in their relation n both have their responsibilities to keep their relation intact.. not only wife.. there is no need to become one ruler.. n other one as bali ka bakra every time.. Oh plz.. 😵
N abt Aditya.. nobody was forcing him to accept tainted Suman like he was thinking even if he had so many relations in his past.. he turned out "girls touch me" not after he saw Suman.. So Adi is not sati savitra.. 😆 plz.. he could have cancelled the wedding.. I wouldn't have said bad abt him.. but he molested one girl.. he is like such a man.. who will think if lady is prostitute means he can rape her anytime n anywhere.. So sorry for being harsh.. but I hate such mentalities..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Aditya should called off wedding if he s concerned abt Shraman past..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shahneem


Very well said.

Men establish patriarchy, but women maintain it.

A man can have as many relationships as he wants, but that doesn't affect his 'honor' but a woman must be a virgin in the marital bed. I call bullshit on that.


I told my husband I wasn't a virgin, and if he couldn't deal with that I didn't want anything to do with him. We're married for 12 years now, and the topic of my virginity has never come up. I support him in times of crisis, and he cooked me dinner last night because I'm working on a deadline.

That's how real men and women function, as equals, and complements to each other.

Men like Aditya, and I'm sorry, like Shravan, are not the sort any woman should want to marry. You can have an affair with a goodlooking man, but a marriage (presuming it is for keeps) must be between two people who respect one another: because every time life slaps you down, you need a partner who stands beside you, not one you need to defend yourself from. Marriage as a concept is dwindling in many parts of the world, because women are now financially independent, and if they like they can very well give birth to, and bring up a child all on their own. Now, more than ever, if marriage is to last as an institution, men and women must have the same 'honor' and 'affair' codes. What's good for the gander must be good for the goose.

Neither of the men respect Suman at the moment: and unless Shravan can go back to his true self and get rid of the misgyny lessons Ramu Kaka keeps dishing out, Suman shouldn't marry him either.

A man like Aditya deserves a kick up his backside, and a boot out of society. A man like Shravan needs to wake up and smell the coffee. And a woman like Suman needs to realise that she is good enough to be on her own, and no one, not even those who have brought her up, have the right to dictate who she should marry.

But expecting all this out of a Hindi soap is out of the question.

So, at the very least, as the TM says, women need to stop making googly eyes at molesters and blaming the victim or the instigator. Not all men would react as Aditya did, and anyone who denies that, man or woman, needs a shake or two.


@Bold:- Word...I am amazed by the people, esp women who still think that this is how things are supposed to be. I am horrified by the possibility that they excercise their mindset in real life too. A 'man' has to have that much power over a woman's life since the day she is born and in exchange, she should not expect a thing. What kind of society we are going to have if with this mindset these women are going to educate and rise the children of next generation, boys and girls...🤢

Thank you for sharing your story with us. Knowing that makes me so happy, so content and so much pride I feel as a girl...May God bless you both and kisi ki nazar na lagee...*Respect for both of you* 🤗

I agree with each and every word of yours and couldn't said it better...So, I am going to only say 'word'...😳

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