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Posted: 9 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Kisha6

I disagree. we are comparing a 16 year old immaturity of Sumo to a 27 year old Sravan's behaviour and saying both are at par is not in my opinion correct.

from the time Shravan came back, Sumo is the one who is trying to be understanding with him.Sumo is also thinking in the same lines as you,trying to understand Shravan's problems and trying to get him out of his cynicism.but the issue here is, we can't go on understanding and analyzing their behaviour

Even a sadistic person has some reason for his behaviour, like his parents are abusive,he sufferred a lot in his childhood which made him turn like this way. but do we condone his behaviour just because of these reasons? it is the same here (am not comparing Shravan here but just trying to make a point)

it is not only your upbringing which makes you as the person you are but also the person you want to be. Pushkar has a good upbringing no doubt but at the same time, he has a mother who is manipulative and a father who does nothing. Pushkar is different to everyone of his family including Varun.

so at the end, what I say is Pushkar chose to be what he is now (an understanding,upright,gentle natured individual) and Shravan chose to be what he is now (a cynical,only living in the past and who hates women)


so yeah, in teens we like to read Mills and Boons type of heroes (brooding,dark,handsome etc) but in reality you would like to settle with a gentle,caring,supportive,understanding friend as your life long companion



Even hurt at the age of 16, just go back and think the situation in which he was insulted.

His mom left him, his dad refused to let him know anything clearly, he wasn't having anyone to share that to, to cry and express his pain to, except a "close" friend Sumo.
He somehow managed to go to her and wanted to tell her when she blasted him and insulted hik making him a laughing stock for the whole school.
He was already a nerdy introvert, and t b see kind of people don't get easily offended or hurt, but when they do, the stabs they get from the person hurting never heal so soon or so easily.

Then what happens...
He goes away from her... When he returns back what be sees... she says "itni badi baat bhi nahi thi.."
Then he sees his Chachi and Vandy are the kind of women who just can anything for their own good.
Then he sees a women like mami who pushes Sumo hard when she even slightly feels she isn't of any good to her... (that scene when he comes n catches her from falling when he had come to her place to discuss the Khosla case)
Then he must have seen girls like Urvashi everyday in the "high class" society he lives in!! Who want to manipulate and hitch to rich guys like him for the sake of a luxurious life.
Now what do u expect...
That is what makes him of the opinion that women are selfish and mean.
When every woman he comes across, unfortunately turns to be a kind of vamp what can he do.

I agree that after an age, we have to decide what kind of person we want to be, but the truth that u can't deny is we become what we see, we read, we learn from what is around us.

Pushkar... a guy who has a loving set of parents, a real elder brother Varun. A nice set of good friends, no painful past of scars, no mental stress of seeing his parents fighting daily with words no child should hear or seeing his family suffering coz of their financial needs, no seeing that his mom toils day and night for them coz his dad want able to work. Pushkar had a nice sorted out lifestyle.

Shravan... a guy with a broken family, parents who fought like snakes and mongoose, a life which had lots of mental and financial stress when he was young. A guy who left everyone in the family at the age of 16 and left for an alien country.
Then he stayed there for 10 years without anyone... but just visits from his "caring" dad.
A guy who immersed himself in studies and made of him what be is now... ruthless, kind of cynical, hard natured guy, knowing that innocent nerds are trampled under the feet of the world.

Sumo is an exception... he has started to realise it too. But then misunderstandings come and put then apart... now am just hoping all this gets sorted soon!!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ttt1


Yeah
Ina real sense a person like Sravan is a nightmare ...because you have to keep thinking how he will take your every single action

Although I can justify his reaction when sumo questioned ramnath ,I don't find any reasons for sumo to understand his behaviour post that

I think it's too biased towards Sravan ,the story

Also in the beginning he had trust issues. But even after trying to give her life o prove a point if he doesn't trust her intentions its nothing much she can do ...one day he will regret but that regret would be due to external factors ...like he realizes ramnath's was wrong , kamini is a bitxh etc...but the fact will remain that he will always require external factors to trust the girl he claims to love ...how is it a relationship then



U will understand his state of mind if u go thru all the posts... I have expressed what I feel at least 10 times 🤣


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Good Morning/ Afternoon and Evening to All!!
Amreen... Such a meaningful and well deserved post. I am one of those silent stalkers of the forum and I've been itching to say something since the last episode, but due to dearth of writing talent, I have kept quiet and Ur post prompted me to share my thoughts!

As many other forum members pointed out, the behaviour of Shravan was and is highly condemnable. Its not just his attitude but also his outburst of '"now, get lost", which took me by surprise. I was taken aback by his demeanour. You don't talk like that to anyone. It was very condescending. And Shravan taking that attitude with Sumo, in front of the whole office, is beyond my understanding.
Many of you have stated that he does it to Sumo, as she is the closest to him and he takes out all the frustration on her, which I completely understand. And you have so very well explained it in your post.

As I was sitting and thinking of the last few episodes and this final explosion of Shravan, what struck me was- maybe Shravan didn't mean to actually yell at Sumo. Yes, of course, on the surface level, that is what has happened. This guy had been in turmoil since his encounter with his mum and the events that followed, Ramnath's accusations and Sumo's stand on her PoV. He has been shown to be totally disturbed. And to top it, the last straw was, Sumo questioning his Dad.
He just blew off, probably at the whole situation and not at Sumo. That 'get lost' might probably be to the whole unpleasantness he has been surrounded with. Well, of course, he needed to just let it out and there was the situation.

I could be completely wrong in my assumption. I have a strong feeling that Shravan is sub-consciously aware that his dad might be wrong. Could he be in Denial, which led to his Anger?
Someone also mentioned in one of the posts, that Shravan might have something up his sleeve and all this is just a pretence. Does he?
Shravan has not been shown to be impulsive so far. Yes, he is sensitive and quite emotional but I don't think, he is impulsive. So, what was the reason for this impulsiveness of Shravan? He is battling with his emotions.
That certainly doesn't make him right. And this is where, he has to pay big time, in the future to get his Sumo back. Especially, as this came out at completely the wrong time, where it involved PCT, Sumo's love and life. No wonder, they say, ur anger is ur biggest enemy.

I know, I am ranting off and not even sure, if I made any sense. Guess, I'm confused like Shravan too... thinking too much about a Telly Show 😕 and getting too much involved with it. I put myself in Sumo's shoes and wondered if it would have happened to me, would I be able to forgive the guy? I might, if I were Sumo, as she is a very matured, reasonable, sensible and understanding woman.

All I wanted to say is.. Shravan definitely was wrong but NOT as much as it has been taking rounds amongst the forum members.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Amreen...



U will understand his state of mind if u go thru all the posts... I have expressed what I feel at least 10 times 🤣


Lol I understand a lot of repeatation for you :-)
For me it's about whether the show is interesting or not ,cos I m a viewer with.limited time for entertainment ...so if the show is good I stich if not I switch

Let me tell you what I liked about the show : that the leads knew each other ,has been in love.for a while
Aghast hero with trust issues was a interesting concept once now it's too much redone on Hindi tele

Here that's what is happening ,they are trying to create hero behaviour through first making him misbehave ,and then regret ...so reason is there no denying that. But story wise will fall apart ...simple reason
Why he's behaving is internal factors (his trust. His belief system)
Why he's regretinf is external factors (dad cheating him,chachi manipulated )
So.either sumo is not a part of the story (that's what I meant by biased )

On the other hand if you see sumo ,her action anger almost most of the things sravan is directly a part or expected to be a part of ( she should understand because she should know he has trust issues etc)

To me that a done many times concept which is not new ,so I was not looking for reason but understand ing ...#ekdujhekevaaste
Not Sravan suman ke vaaste because sumo should realise his trust issues ,his mom his dad all of it ..because she left his years back etc...#sacrificalindianheroine
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Amreen...



Just place urself in his place... Won't u be a bundle of messed up emotions, when suddenly u are thrown in front of ur mom u hate with all ur heart after a looong period of ten years...!!
Think what will u do when there is so much happening in ur life...


He hates his mom and the way his dad behaved seeing her hugging him, it was like he would leave him any moment. For Shravan, Ram was the only genuine parent, friend, guardian in his life...he cannot even imagine to loose him!!

And plus he has a workload of some tough case which he unfortunately won... and when after the case, he sees Sumo misbehaving with his dad, he looses the cool but then guilt claims him as soon as he sees her tears!!
Now so many emotions playing in the head of one man... and he literally has no one, with whom he can share all, his dad will manipulate him n shut the topic, Sumo se he won't talk, Pushkar doesn't know much so he is out of the frame, Forget Lalaji, Varun, Chachi or Vandy!!
He doesn't even have a friend, what will he do!!
Kaun hai use samajhne wala!!

As I said Sumo deserves his apology and that too an apology with him on his knees and even I can't wait for Sumo to give him back coz there are a lot of misunderstandings!!
Sumo thinking he did all the wrong and Shravan not realising what wrong he was indirectly forced to do!!
As per the situation she needs to blast him, but then they will pass the phase and come out with a stronger relationship and the new trust will be forever!!



Dear i hv been relating to all his woes and worries , even till the episode where they both confronted where Sumo asked his apologies... n she said shes not wrong... till then i hv been okay , even him leaving her in the middle of the road was understandable... all the MCP behaviour sometimes not relating to or understanding but still i put up with it...

But sorry i disagree with u here that what he did at his office infront of his whole staff n crew... the way he talked to her.. in which tone .. that was not justified / Relatable... understandable chalo i agree. That was his pent up anger that blasted... but he was there listening to what she was saying.. in order to stop her from misbehaving with his father he came n blasted at her like. N was yeah its my fault talk to me.. n talking to her in that tone...
Aah his guilt . Hes so mahan that after blasting n insulting her infront if the whole office he felt guilty... he slaps berry n all his misdeeds are forgiven no... not at all... not for me atleast... he failed as a friend .. that moment itself... and pushkar spoke it out loud...
If personally i wud hv to put me in their places that wud hv been the end of relationship fr me... im not the one to put up with insults and constant shots to my self respect ... i wud not bargain my respect for love..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The only point i want to put across is we cannot always forget a person's mistake just based on his "troubled past" or his "troubled childhood"
We all relate to Shravan's woes. His inseciritiee n no one really come up with his MCP behaviour like they did after friday's episode...

U know one day if in his spit of anger, Shravan goes on and murder a woman just because he has troubled past n childhood and he has trust issues. He wont be justified. He will be as wrong as he is now...
He might know about his father's intentions, but his role and right as a friend doesnot need him to know what his father do...

His friend was broken, he knows the reason and bloody knoww shes not wrong... and what did he do, come n blast at her, shouted at her, insulted her... n then thinking he was not wrong is just... 😕

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