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Posted: 9 years ago
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"Love is not love, which alters, when it alteration finds" I'm a firm believer of this concept. 😳
The one that does not change is the LOVE between two people, not the two people who're in love. We cannot grow without changing. It's all about accepting the changes. A man has to accept the change of his wife becoming mother, changes of priority, it's as simple as that, just an example. 😆

No, I for once don't see Nana Ji to know the Suman, coming undone. He's loves the Sumo she paints in front of him. He guards Sumo the person, not her emotional torment.


First of all thank u for putting forth a topic where one wants to enter into a discussion & then secondly indulging in a discussion ... after a long time had a meaningful discussion of IF .. 😳

Ofcourse change is one constant in life ... v grow taller 😳... unfortunately fatter😆😉 ... thats all part of change ... i am of course talking about ur line ... THAT LOVE CHANGES ... thats the point i am discussing here ... as u said a man accepts his wife becoming a mother .. YES thats a CHANGE .. but surface .. it does not change the intrinsic quality of the wife which the husband fell in love with ... it does not change her as a person ... just an added dimension is introduced in their love ...

Cant argue with your take away from the 3 odd week of the show .. if u as a viewer felt that NANAji does not see SUMO as a whole.. then somewhere the creatives did not convey that message effectively TO U ...


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Posted: 9 years ago
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"Love is not love, which alters, when it alteration finds" I'm a firm believer of this concept. 😳
The one that does not change is the LOVE between two people, not the two people who're in love. We cannot grow without changing. It's all about accepting the changes. A man has to accept the change of his wife becoming mother, changes of priority, it's as simple as that, just an example. 😆

No, I for once don't see Nana Ji to know the Suman, coming undone. He's loves the Sumo she paints in front of him. He guards Sumo the person, not her emotional torment.


First of all thank u for putting forth a topic where one wants to enter into a discussion & then secondly indulging in a discussion ... after a long time had a meaningful discussion of IF .. 😳

Ofcourse change is one constant in life ... v grow taller 😳... unfortunately fatter😆😉 ... thats all part of change ... i am of course talking about ur line ... THAT LOVE CHANGES ... thats the point i am discussing here ... as u said a man accepts his wife becoming a mother .. YES thats a CHANGE .. but surface .. it does not change the intrinsic quality of the wife which the husband fell in love with ... it does not change her as a person ... just an added dimension is introduced in their love ...

Cant argue with your take away from the 3 odd week of the show .. if u as a viewer felt that NANAji does not see SUMO as a whole.. then somewhere the creatives did not convey that message effectively TO U ...




@Bold that's the type of changes I'm talking too. Added dimensions. Not the type of change, where one wakes up to be an entirely different person all together. 😆Sorry if din't put forth my point clearly.

About my take on Nanaji and Sumo, I guess, "to each, it's own". I see it that way. It's a story and it's all about perceptions.

The post is just to try and give a different perception over the character Suman. People are so mean to her here. 😆😆
Edited by SS4MaNan - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Swetha...U said it all
U described very well about Suman , can't say anything about it & nothing to add 👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Good post. I see Sumo as the asr without his sister.
It was Anjali and nani who showed us the good side of asr. Without them we would think he is a villain Plus he had tons of money. With sumo there is only her nanu but he too does not know her enough.

With her family she knows she is not valued but continues to do her duty without worrying about the care. Her nanu cares a lot abiut sumo but she still needs to maintain false hapiness in front of him to make him happy and without guilt. Sumo maintains her image with nanu to not hurt him.

With shravan she expects more as she also cares that much more about him. Any slight that comes from would would hurt her a lot. Especially when she is unaware of his feelings for her.

Right now she is upset about shras well executed plan to insult her... Her trust in him took a beating. When weu are hurting so much you hardly tend to think beyond ourself. in that sense Sumo is blind in her own feelings. Things will start changing when shraman start talking.

Shravan initially wanted to prove he didn't need sumo and sumo is trying that now. Both would soon fail.
Edited by poppinss - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss

Good post. I see Sumo as the asr without his sister.

It was Anjali and nani who showed us the good side of asr. Plus he had tons of money. With sumo there is only her nanu but he too does not know her enough.

With her family she knows she is not valued but continues to do her duty without worrying about the care. With shravan she expects more as she also cares that much more about him.

Right now she is upset about shras well executed plan to insult her... Her trust in him took a beating. When weu are hurting so much you hardly tend to think beyond ourself. in that sense Sumo is blind in her own feelings. Things will start changing when shraman start talking.

Shravan initially wanted to prove he didn't need sumo and sumo is trying that now. Both would soon fail.



@Bold THIS. With him she wants more. Wan't he that one person who loved her without expecting anything in written. It's true that she exploited that love, his love in her childhood, but now she won't. Give it back to her and she shall treasure it, hold on to it for her dear life.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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very well written...
I liked it so much...agree with u in every point
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I was going to make a post defending Suman myself.
Someone has pointed this fact in so thread, if it was a Male lead who was self centered and worse for wear, falling in love with a kind hearted girl, no one would raise any question.
Suman has gone through so much in her life and she has her own set of flaws. And a day will come when she realizes and admits her flaws, so why hate her now?
Besides, Suman is not all bad, she toils for her family, has a up and running business that she established on her own.
Why hate her fixating on a mistake she committed ten years ago? She is in the wrong, undoubtedly. But no person is perfect.
And as you said, we love them inspite of their flaws.
Thank you for making this post.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: prc_fan1


MAIN AA GAYI.

I don't think Nanaji is fully aware of what Suman goes through because that is something only we know & nobody else can know. He doesn't know the specifics like the fact that Shravan humiliated her or that ShraMan are not friends, but he is very well aware that Suman is hurt. She acts strong with Nanaji but that doesn't mean Nanaji has no idea about how vulnerable she can be or that how much she lacks true love in her life.
Also, this whole 'aap nahin samjhenge' is not because Nanaji won't be able to understand & reason it out, but sometimes even if another person objectively understands our situation, they would never know how much pain we go through because its so personal. So we choose to block out other people's POV under the pretext of 'aap nahin samjhenge'.

I hope I made sense😆




@Redwine1 If you're around. Do read it. She cannot emotionally latch her pain on him. He's just not that person in her life. That's my whole point in one line.
Edited by SS4MaNan - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Nice post...
Suman seems less complicated after reading your analysis...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Would highlight on few things :

School Age : Shravan and Sumo relationship
Sravan and Sumo dis share a special friendship,though albiet in secret arrangement wherein both parties have agreed upon. They never acknowledge in front of school. Sumo was totally a confident, big bully, upright, miss popular and extrovert... I could keep adding further contrary to what was Shravan. Suman did had a upper hand in friendship and at many instances did made him look inferior.

Suman consciously bullied Sravan and insulted him in public about his mother and due to this their relationship got strained.
He left to London and they weren't in touch with each other for 10 long years.

Agreed young Sumo was highly immature bully and those behavior are highly unacceptable but its comes due to extreme insecurity, peer pressure and lack of parental guidance.
I am not acknowledging this behavior but why Sravan on first place accepted such low treatment.
Why didnt he raised a little voice against her though being a friend.
Why he accepted her image rants when young Sravan used to keep his heart on sleeves. He was so upfront in speaking about his feeling then don't you guys think it's a duty of friend to
Straight away speak on being bully. ( I feel he could have done on this prom school night incidence)
Agreed Sravan did had low self esteem and his self respect was shattered on he made a right decision leaving all and going to London. Though Suman ran behind him and was sorry but it was of no means. Only after the damage was done she actually realize the consequences. Yes the fact remain 10 years long she was apologetic and guilt tripping on this incidence and he actually was left with harsh memories that haunted him.

10 years back Young Sravan and Sumo

Sumo actually waited for an apology for about 10 long years. She wanted to revive their friendship but Sravan ignored and showed that he is actually moved on which was untrue. He shown such facet that hit her badly. After Mata Rani incident ignorance treatment has withered away he came with a plan to take revenge from this girl who poke and made a public humiliation of him in front of entire school.

He has shown two facet that he has accepted his apology and moved from this incident. He got the same dress for both the girl Urvashi and Suman to humiliate them in public. Unconsciously he bound to have given hopes in Urvashi by buying a dress, taking him to party, mingling and be friending with her...with Suman he finally took a revenge in front of entire school 10 year past incident which shook and hurt him... He called her gold digger, sucker who runs behind the rich guy and hurted her immensely to show of his place and he is not some one who can be taken for granted.
Yeah she was right in saying whatever I did wrong to you was 10 years back but what you did today???? I really wanted to know 10 years long guilt tripping was not enough in her case?? Shouldnt she be given a little mercy since at 16 years age mind is not much developed, though a conscious mistake but it was not a crime.??? I think this party was totally uncalled ???? Due to party Suman was unable to make it up at airport so she has to bare 3 lacks loss wherein she agreed pay it to her Mami. Sravan was deeply hurted after he hurted him. His calculated move hasn't gone the way it should and Suman has to also bear financial loss so he thought, it's monetary to pay 3 lacks and do the final settlement and get closure on it but he failed to understand that he wasn't responsible for her misery if you poke your nose into her family matters, you might he hurting her more. Suman repaid his money with her mom gifted jewellery as a blessing on her wedding. She gave those priced possession because she genuinely doesn't want anybody favor.

Both as an individual failed to look beyond exterior as what they actually are internally. They both are merely affected by each other name but inflict as much pain they could. It shall happen only to those people with whom you share a special bond. A refreshing plot with loads of angst, too many roadblock, lot of mis understanding, past baggage to atually become EDKV. Journey has just begun !!!!



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