The depth of hurt

Now as we stand on the 6th episode post leap, the one thing I have noticed and which is clearly amiss is the depth of hurt.

Maybe, it's too early for me to say that, but for a precise series, 6 wholesome episodes are enough to at least give signs of the basic points they have developed the hurt and hatred of the two leads.

We, are all- guessing.

Whenever they go to a trance, there are no real emotions being portrayed. They don't stay in the present, they don't think of the future, what they do is to ponder over every damn flashback. Every good memory joined with the last bad one. Fine! It can work for two episodes, where they needed to set up their job background. But then?

So, I will be listing a few things, I would like to see the story build on. Honestly, I can't argue on who is more hurt and who is less, because they never showed us anything. So to balance both the sides with equal genuinity, I wish they show this somewhere or the other-

Captain Doctor Suman Tiwari/ Her Father's favorite Cadet/ Devraj's best friend's idol daughter/ Class topper/ Shravan's sweetheart-
Okay, her hurt can be calculated by listing all the people she has lost, abruptly-in seconds. Plus her uncordial relations with the leftover members of the family makes her the most vulnerable at the first glance.
What we all need to know that she was in a habit of being a bit mechanical, but practical. She very well knew about every emotion, and she had a list of not dwelling on wrong things at the wrong time.

But now her hurt accounts for-
1.Her father's dubious death. (it's obvious there was something off with the vest deal. It is being indicated for a long time that there is something wrong going on in the Malhotra industries, maybe not Devraj directly but his co-workers.)
2. She being delusional as a teenager. ( Think of meeting the man of your dreams when you were 18 and trying to run away with him against your family- you will most probably laugh. But when it happens for real, you are guilty. And when it happens with some family tragedy- you will be hurt. Rather, you may even forget all the love and promises you had for him- at least for some time. )

We all may, debate on point number 2. But its a universal truth, that anything associated with a bad event/tragedy makes us run away from it because it is going to refresh all those things we won't like to come across with again.

Now what I think could be added-

3. Because she thinks that Devraj is the real culprit- her efforts of making Vijay and Devraj friends might also hurt.
4. Believing and loving the man who was rebuked by all of her family (which is particularly dead now-all of them) would make her feel guilty.
5. She thinking that somewhere she had broken Shravan's heart. Shravan was fine with her not loving him, but somewhere she too reciprocated his attempts. So now, for starting all this, for taking him with her- she is guilty. -This feeling could surface when they again become friends. This feeling may pull her back from pursuing any romantic interest with him again until the case's verdict makes things clear.-
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Captain Shravan Malhotra/ Vijay's best male cadet/ Devraj's now pride and then pampered son/ Class's surprise/ Suman's only love-

1. Accusing his father abruptly, and then socially murdering his respect.
2. Suman's words. She instantly debunked him. She could have cried with him, could have let him be her support. Rather she threw him away, plus all the other family members were openly slapping him and abusing him on the face. (Now people will come up with the fact that they all kinda were suffering from a major death, but let me tell you that this plot was being built up for long. Both their families were on loggerheads. They were constantly teaching their children how bad the other is and you shouldn't meet. But with Suman's final words, all the teaching of them being wrong, all the past incidences came up in front of Shravan and he too accepted the fact that his father was right, and these people are not worth help or trust.)

Now, what could be added-
( hurt can arise from guilt as well)

3. Disappointing his father, when he was ready to do anything for him. He too wanted to make his parents proud. Doing all that to his parents on the same day, when the society was abusing them instantly after a certain tragedy- might have hurt him in the long run.

4. Somewhere, it hurts to think that the man- Col. Vijay Tiwari, who pushed him to be the Army Officer he is today, died. He loved his Vijay Uncle. And then there was a conflict- a major one. So the whole goodwill to become a good cadet because he loved Vijay Uncle and his daughter was converted into heated anger to prove his dad's innocence.

5. I wrote this in my story as well- with so many bad things linked up to him, he might feel responsible for it somewhere. It affects the behavior, the mindset majorly, when you grow up in such a situation. he seems cold, and maybe he is afraid to open up or hang around the way he used to. He is no more naive, rather he tries and maintains distance- that unintentionally he might hurt someone. - This can be so good, once the reconciliation starts. Because this thing can only be sorted by Suman Tiwari and no one else-


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Thanks for listening to my views. More than the debate of who is hurt and who isn't let us think of better reasons that can balance both the side.

Would love to hear from you!

I am actually writing ----FADED-A SuVan Story---- and I kinda tried stating all the things I thought necessary to fill up the depth of their hurt.
thanks again!

I think the tragedy did bring Shravan and his father much more closer than it was shown preleap because while he did respect his dad, there was still a sort of miscommunication in the beginning. When Shravan entered the school, it was through Suman where he got to learn about the meaning of relationships and the beauty of it which attracted him to her. Simultaneously, I was feeling a bit more content on Suman realizing the fact that Vijay was still imposing his opinion on her even though the track was rushed only for her to go back to square one (her criticizing the relatives of her colleagues that are not from army background to commenting on Shravan entering the military for "SHOW-OFF purposes." The real culprit is bad writing & bad timing here so cannot really take sides but writers themselves are responsible to receiving a mixed response to the current storyline.

Yes, Suman suffered a lot in her life - losses of her parents and detaching herself from forming new relationships but she's also developed a questionable sorta attitude or the trait of shifting gears from hear & there so that kinda leaves me a bit more baffled about the one who was ready to go against her father to suddenly blaming him for the losses & tragic shifts in her.

Originally posted by: nancy56

Now as we stand on the 6th episode post leap, the one thing I have noticed and which is clearly amiss is the depth of hurt.

Maybe, it's too early for me to say that, but for a precise series, 6 wholesome episodes are enough to at least give signs of the basic points they have developed the hurt and hatred of the two leads.

We, are all- guessing.

Whenever they go to a trance, there are no real emotions being portrayed. They don't stay in the present, they don't think of the future, what they do is to ponder over every damn flashback. Every good memory joined with the last bad one. Fine! It can work for two episodes, where they needed to set up their job background. But then?

So, I will be listing a few things, I would like to see the story build on. Honestly, I can't argue on who is more hurt and who is less, because they never showed us anything. So to balance both the sides with equal genuinity, I wish they show this somewhere or the other-

Captain Doctor Suman Tiwari/ Her Father's favorite Cadet/ Devraj's best friend's idol daughter/ Class topper/ Shravan's sweetheart-
Okay, her hurt can be calculated by listing all the people she has lost, abruptly-in seconds. Plus her uncordial relations with the leftover members of the family makes her the most vulnerable at the first glance.
What we all need to know that she was in a habit of being a bit mechanical, but practical. She very well knew about every emotion, and she had a list of not dwelling on wrong things at the wrong time.

But now her hurt accounts for-
1.Her father's dubious death. (it's obvious there was something off with the vest deal. It is being indicated for a long time that there is something wrong going on in the Malhotra industries, maybe not Devraj directly but his co-workers.)
2. She being delusional as a teenager. ( Think of meeting the man of your dreams when you were 18 and trying to run away with him against your family- you will most probably laugh. But when it happens for real, you are guilty. And when it happens with some family tragedy- you will be hurt. Rather, you may even forget all the love and promises you had for him- at least for some time. )

We all may, debate on point number 2. But its a universal truth, that anything associated with a bad event/tragedy makes us run away from it because it is going to refresh all those things we won't like to come across with again.

Now what I think could be added-

3. Because she thinks that Devraj is the real culprit- her efforts of making Vijay and Devraj friends might also hurt.
4. Believing and loving the man who was rebuked by all of her family (which is particularly dead now-all of them) would make her feel guilty.
5. She thinking that somewhere she had broken Shravan's heart. Shravan was fine with her not loving him, but somewhere she too reciprocated his attempts. So now, for starting all this, for taking him with her- she is guilty. -This feeling could surface when they again become friends. This feeling may pull her back from pursuing any romantic interest with him again until the case's verdict makes things clear.-
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Captain Shravan Malhotra/ Vijay's best male cadet/ Devraj's now pride and then pampered son/ Class's surprise/ Suman's only love-

1. Accusing his father abruptly, and then socially murdering his respect.
2. Suman's words. She instantly debunked him. She could have cried with him, could have let him be her support. Rather she threw him away, plus all the other family members were openly slapping him and abusing him on the face. (Now people will come up with the fact that they all kinda were suffering from a major death, but let me tell you that this plot was being built up for long. Both their families were on loggerheads. They were constantly teaching their children how bad the other is and you shouldn't meet. But with Suman's final words, all the teaching of them being wrong, all the past incidences came up in front of Shravan and he too accepted the fact that his father was right, and these people are not worth help or trust.)

Now, what could be added-
( hurt can arise from guilt as well)

3. Disappointing his father, when he was ready to do anything for him. He too wanted to make his parents proud. Doing all that to his parents on the same day, when the society was abusing them instantly after a certain tragedy- might have hurt him in the long run.

4. Somewhere, it hurts to think that the man- Col. Vijay Tiwari, who pushed him to be the Army Officer he is today, died. He loved his Vijay Uncle. And then there was a conflict- a major one. So the whole goodwill to become a good cadet because he loved Vijay Uncle and his daughter was converted into heated anger to prove his dad's innocence.

5. I wrote this in my story as well- with so many bad things linked up to him, he might feel responsible for it somewhere. It affects the behavior, the mindset majorly, when you grow up in such a situation. he seems cold, and maybe he is afraid to open up or hang around the way he used to. He is no more naive, rather he tries and maintains distance- that unintentionally he might hurt someone. - This can be so good, once the reconciliation starts. Because this thing can only be sorted by Suman Tiwari and no one else-


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Thanks for listening to my views. More than the debate of who is hurt and who isn't let us think of better reasons that can balance both the side.

Would love to hear from you!

I am actually writing ----FADED-A SuVan Story---- and I kinda tried stating all the things I thought necessary to fill up the depth of their hurt.
thanks again!

This is nicely written. I also want them to add these in Sumo and Shravan. It will make them look more reasonable and will add some depth.

I want writers to think beyond Vijay's death and Devraj a suspect.

The serial still holds lot more potential than we are getting.

Originally posted by: SharmiliBandhi

I think the tragedy did bring Shravan and his father much more closer than it was shown preleap because while he did respect his dad, there was still a sort of miscommunication in the beginning. When Shravan entered the school, it was through Suman where he got to learn about the meaning of relationships and the beauty of it which attracted him to her. Simultaneously, I was feeling a bit more content on Suman realizing the fact that Vijay was still imposing his opinion on her even though the track was rushed only for her to go back to square one (her criticizing the relatives of her colleagues that are not from army background to commenting on Shravan entering the military for "SHOW-OFF purposes." The real culprit is bad writing & bad timing here so cannot really take sides but writers themselves are responsible to receiving a mixed response to the current storyline.

Yes, Suman suffered a lot in her life - losses of her parents and detaching herself from forming new relationships but she's also developed a questionable sorta attitude or the trait of shifting gears from hear & there so that kinda leaves me a bit more baffled about the one who was ready to go against her father to suddenly blaming him for the losses & tragic shifts in her.

Yeah, more than anything Suman holds herself guilty of whatever happened. Honestly, this change, this self-hurt can be exploited well. To me, Suman looks much wounded,because there is reversal in her character arc even if she went back to square one. She doesn't bother about breaking a rule or two, plus she doesn't restrain herself from mingling with civilians (Vikram). She would have married an Army guy no matter what, but that has also changed.

Shravan actually holds on to his character more. He is bitter and angry but there is no reversal of his other character traits.

Originally posted by: raahiyaan

This is nicely written. I also want them to add these in Sumo and Shravan. It will make them look more reasonable and will add some depth.

I want writers to think beyond Vijay's death and Devraj a suspect.

The serial still holds lot more potential than we are getting.

True!!! I just hope they do it, the way it should. I am positive with the creators, they have done great work previously.

Yeh Pyaar Nahi to kya hai- is my go to thing now,its beautiful and will be till eternity.

EDKV1 is something we all know.

So I guess they know there job really very well.

Originally posted by: nancy56

True!!! I just hope they do it, the way it should. I am positive with the creators, they have done great work previously.

Yeh Pyaar Nahi to kya hai- is my go to thing now,its beautiful and will be till eternity.

EDKV1 is something we all know.

So I guess they know there job really very well.

Yeh Pyaar Nahi toh kya hai as a storytelling was nicely executed. Though it was mainly a ML perceptive show but I like how it was presented with ofcourse it's ups and downs.

I don't know if I should remain positive since they obviously had to make changes because of covid but I too hope they present the characters in every possible way even if they can't show much of outdoor

Originally posted by: raahiyaan

Yeh Pyaar Nahi toh kya hai as a storytelling was nicely executed. Though it was mainly a ML perceptive show but I like how it was presented with ofcourse it's ups and downs.

I don't know if I should remain positive since they obviously had to make changes because of covid but I too hope they present the characters in every possible way even if they can't show much of outdoor

@I loved Sid from YPNTKH. But yeah it was more about the male lead than the love story even. Unfortunately they had to rush the ending. But the concept of the show was interesting.