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Posted: 11 years ago
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About consummation happening or not happening, this is what I wrote in another post.

Pointers to why consummation would have happened.

They got Tara to faint and postpone MJ's arrest by a day. Now why was that, considering not much happened after MJ returned to the mansion and left the next day (at least till today's episode).

A newly wed husband and wife who are very much in love with each other, who had an unfinished SR the previous night and are emotionally high strung because they know they will get separated the next morning are bound to want more than just a good night kiss.

Tara was draped in her Karva Chauth saree, revealing yet concealing her shapely body. Now why was that? Just to go off to sleep?


Well after all this, there is still a possibility that consummation may not have happened.

Maybe Tara got dressed in that saree to remind MJ of the night she kept the fast for him for his long life and hence it was a means to assure him and herself that he will be out soon. Or maybe MJ may have asked Tara to dress up in that saree because he did not get to see her in all her glory that night (as he was more worried about hiding his dada then)


Maybe they did want to consummate after MJ got turned on seeing sexy Tara but their wounds got in the way. Tara did have a huge bandage on her arm and MJ would have not wanted to hurt her more. Or maybe just as they were getting close, they remembered they just lost Mj's childhood friend and the sole witness/alleged victim that morning and decided to postpone for the moment. Or MJ would have restrained himself, wanting to take their relationship to the next level only after he is fully free.

So both possibilities of consummation happening and not happening are there.

From the point of CVs, I think they deliberately inserted that scene today to up viewer interest and intrigue. Now they can show the rest of the night in bits and pieces with each or both of them recalling what happened that night as and when they get a trigger to jog their memory.


And yes, as Piya pointed out they seem much more cozy after Radha's death than before, especially Tara. Remember the way she was clinging to MJ when he was being taken away to prison? Now that seems like the way a normal couple would behave if they have experienced the joys of being intimate with each other but have been/are being deprived of it now.

Coming to Nandu-RP observation, yes I agree with you that both are misdirecting their hurt for their own shortcomings. Both aspired for something they could not have, or were being deprived of and they felt their siblings were somehow responsible for that.


RP felt that because of his sexual orientation, he did not get his father's love and more importantly, his respect, things which his brother got in abundance. He could not live the life he wanted (freely acknowledging that he was a transgender). In his twisted mind, he thought that JR is responsible for it because JR himself was able to lead the life he wanted without any fear of rebuke. Whatever he (JR) did was appreciated and accepted by his father while he himself was punished, shunned and ridiculed. JR brings an orphan and the old man loves him more than his eldest son. A 'worthless' boy with no pedigree gets love while he gets rebuked. So he hates JR and MJ, the two people his father loved the most because it is he who craved for his father's love and they got it instead.


Nandu had a similar life. She wanted her mother to give her all the attention and love but her sister took it all. Her irresponsible nature always got her scolded by her mom. She aspired for riches and comfort and Tara got it all. What is worse, the alliance was meant for her and Tara intervened and snatched it from her. Had she not done that, she would have married MJ, the prisoner, who was safely locked away in prison, lived her life of luxury in the palatial house and continued her affair with Adi, hoodwinking everyone in that house. This is called having the cake and eating it too. Unfortunately Tara did not allow her to even have a glimpse of that cake. Just like RP, she could not live the life she wanted and both her mother and sister were responsible for it. She has not seen the struggles Tara went through to get her husband's love. She did not see Tara rough it up in UC when her husband went there. She thought Tara was always enjoying the lap of luxury. That is why she was trying to brainwash JR yesterday. Since JR has seen for himself how Tara lived in that house, I hope he does'nt fall for it. In fact, he shut her up yesterday but I don't know if or when he will fall prey to the lies these two are spewing against Tara.

So both RP and Nandu feel they have been wronged by their respective parents and their siblings have benefitted from it.
Edited by Opti - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: Opti



About consummation happening or not happening, this is what I wrote in another post.

Pointers to why consummation would have happened.

They got Tara to faint and postpone MJ's arrest by a day. Now why was that, considering not much happened after MJ returned to the mansion and left the next day (at least till today's episode).

A newly wed husband and wife who are very much in love with each other, who had an unfinished SR the previous night and are emotionally high strung because they know they will get separated the next morning are bound to want more than just a good night kiss.

Tara was draped in her Karva Chauth saree, revealing yet concealing her shapely body. Now why was that? Just to go off to sleep?


Well after all this, there is still a possibility that consummation may not have happened.

Maybe Tara got dressed in that saree to remind MJ of the night she kept the fast for him for his long life and hence it was a means to assure him and herself that he will be out soon. Or maybe MJ may have asked Tara to dress up in that saree because he did not get to see her in all her glory that night (as he was more worried about hiding his dada then)


Maybe they did want to consummate after MJ got turned on seeing sexy Tara but their wounds got in the way. Tara did have a huge bandage on her arm and MJ would have not wanted to hurt her more. Or maybe just as they were getting close, they remembered they just lost Mj's childhood friend and the sole witness/alleged victim that morning and decided to postpone for the moment. Or MJ would have restrained himself, wanting to take their relationship to the next level only after he is fully free.

So both possibilities of consummation happening and not happening are there.

From the point of CVs, I think they deliberately inserted that scene today to up viewer interest and intrigue. Now they can show the rest of the night in bits and pieces with each or both of them recalling what happened that night as and when they get a trigger to jog their memory.


And yes, as Piya pointed out they seem much more cozy after Radha's death than before, especially Tara. Remember the way she was clinging to MJ when he was being taken away to prison? Now that seems like the way a normal couple would behave if they have experienced the joys of being intimate with each other but have been/are being deprived of it now.

Coming to Nandu-RP observation, yes I agree with you that both are misdirecting their hurt for their own shortcomings. Both aspired for something they could not have, or were being deprived of and they felt their siblings were somehow responsible for that.


RP felt that because of his sexual orientation, he did not get his father's love and more importantly, his respect, things which his brother got in abundance. He could not live the life he wanted (freely acknowledging that he was a transgender). In his twisted mind, he thought that JR is responsible for it because JR himself was able to lead the life he wanted without any fear of rebuke. Whatever he (JR) did was appreciated and accepted by his father while he himself was punished, shunned and ridiculed. JR brings an orphan and the old man loves him more than his eldest son. A 'worthless' boy with no pedigree gets love while he gets rebuked. So he hates JR and MJ, the two people his father loved the most because it is he who craved for his father's love and they got it instead.


Nandu had a similar life. She wanted her mother to give her all the attention and love but her sister took it all. Her irresponsible nature always got her scolded by her mom. She aspired for riches and comfort and Tara got it all. What is worse, the alliance was meant for her and Tara intervened and snatched it from her. Had she not done that, she would have married MJ, the prisoner, who was safely locked away in prison, lived her life of luxury in the palatial house and continued her affair with Adi, hoodwinking everyone in that house. This is called having the cake and eating it too. Unfortunately Tara did not allow her to even have a glimpse of that cake. Just like RP, she could not live the life she wanted and both her mother and sister were responsible for it. She has not seen the struggles Tara went through to get her husband's love. She did not see Tara rough it up in UC when her husband went there. She thought Tara was always enjoying the lap of luxury. That is why she was trying to brainwash JR yesterday. Since JR has seen for himself how Tara lived in that house, I hope he does'nt fall for it. In fact, he shut her up yesterday but I don't know if or when he will fall prey to the lies these two are spewing against Tara.

So both RP and Nandu feel they have been wronged by their respective parents and their siblings have benefitted from it.

You express so well that sometimes I feel like my answer to you won't be able to live up to that amount of sophistication haha 😆 but it's always great to read what you have to say. I personally think that JR will get persuaded by Nandu's words because Tara will very brashly reveal that RP is Kalavati which will horrify JR. Since JR had just heard from Nandu that Tara is a frequent liar when it comes to getting herself out of trouble, he'll think that she's lying to get herself out of revealing where she was last night and why she lied about her whereabouts. I don't necessarily think this misunderstanding is such a bad thing because with JR's support out of the way, it'll make room for unexpected people to step in support Tara (I'm hinting towards FC and Nirmala here). What I'm scared about is the attack RP is planning on Tara. Who's going to save her and how badly will this affect her quest to prove MJ innocent?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sfarazi


You express so well that sometimes I feel like my answer to you won't be able to live up to that amount of sophistication haha 😆 but it's always great to read what you have to say. I personally think that JR will get persuaded by Nandu's words because Tara will very brashly reveal that RP is Kalavati which will horrify JR. Since JR had just heard from Nandu that Tara is a frequent liar when it comes to getting herself out of trouble, he'll think that she's lying to get herself out of revealing where she was last night and why she lied about her whereabouts. I don't necessarily think this misunderstanding is such a bad thing because with JR's support out of the way, it'll make room for unexpected people to step in support Tara (I'm hinting towards FC and Nirmala here). What I'm scared about is the attack RP is planning on Tara. Who's going to save her and how badly will this affect her quest to prove MJ innocent?



Shegufta, you are gifted with the power to express. I love reading your takes too. Yes, JR will get persuaded to believe Nandu who has just entered the house and already throwing her weight around rather than trust his Dil whom he had lived with for six months. He is mad to believe that Tara would lie about such a thing just to get away from answering where she was the previous night. He knows just how much the woman loves her husband. Would he even dare to suspect her to be of loose morals considering she spent the night out? Should he not think that if she is hiding something from him there should be a good enough reason. If she is making a serious allegation that his revered brother is a eunuch, there must be something to it? I would rather that he thinks she has come unhinged because of MJ's imprisonment rather than think her to be immoral or a liar? Anyway it is a given that he is not going to trust her or help her.


Coming to help from FC and Nimmo, I agree with you that it is welcome that Tara will get support from unexpected quarters. I think FC's help may come after the attack on Tara because FC is the only one who is aware of RP's truth. He is not helping because he thinks Tara has misunderstood him but if she gets attacked, it should not take long for FC to put two and two together to figure out Kala was behind this. He knows what Kala is capable of. As to Nimmo, her help will be forthcoming only when she comes to know that MJ is her son. I don't think that will happen soon or maybe it will.

This show is unpredictable. It is low on IQ (for many things make no sense) but high on EQ. Now we have a new CV too. No wonder they have completely blacked out the fact that Tara has seen her father before and they had a photo of him in their house before she got married (he looked nothing like Guruji). Now AD tells Yug that she has kept her children from memories of their father by destroying all his pictures. Maybe this is to explain why Tara could not recognise her dad when she saw him in prison. Looks like the true identity will get revealed only when AD sees that tavis Guruji gifted Tara.
Edited by Opti - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Awesome analysis dear

Love is not only about seeking its also about giving

Me too thinking what excuse Tara will give to JR??
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Posted: 11 years ago
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mriara scenes ab nahin milenge to thodi thodi si SR scenes dikhayenge, shayad.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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It is said that if you are treated like an animal one day you become on too ...
I have a little sympathy for RP coz its not his fault that he was born a kinner and it was not his fault that due to this fact his dad was harsh towards him
But that doesn't give him a right to kill and betray people especially those who respect him .
Nandu on the other hand I cant show sympathy coz no matter how selfish , mean ,and kaam chor she was her entire family loved her and she betrayed them just to insult and ruin her sister's life 😡😡😡😡
If RP betrays her then I think she deserves it .
AD has a soft corner for tara why wouldn't she tara is responsible , selfless and honest to her loved ones
To be honest I would kill to have a daughter like that 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I completely agree with what you said about RP-Nandu bond. Somewhere in the past even though unintentionally their parents have treated them unfairly due to which they are what they are today.

And on the questions, I told this earlier from the FB scene yesterday I think a SR did happen. MJ said that the ring will remind Tara of this NIGHT' which is giving strength to my belief. If it has happened I want the CV's to show that sometime sooner, in full...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sfarazi

He just wants to destroy anyone who has ever experienced love I guess. He wants to destroy his family and in that sense he too is blind towards JR's love and respect for him.
Well AD said today that she got rid all of her husband's memories because she could move on after his death. Now they could have changed the story but I hope there's something else to it then that. What if CVs just have a guy who talks like Tara in jail just so Aashiq miya doesn't go back into depression mode? He could actually no relation to either of them and can simply be MJ's friend in jail.
Yeah I think SR happened too and I hope that show us more! Itne sizzling jodi ka SR nahi dekhaya toh kya kiya!
Oh god Shaina! You're so right! I hope they find good ways to keep giving us our daily doses of Mriara 😭




Aisa ho sakta hai but hoga nahi because in hindi movies and shows when a character like this is introduced then he always turns out to be this long lost father, mother or sibling!!!!😆

Oh they will have to find ways of it and that is why the suhaag raat was kept to be shown in flashback I suppose!!!!!😊

So that the audience can survive on that One Drop Of Love in these trying times!!!!😊 ❤️

Ek Boond Ishq pe hoon zinda... 😊





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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Opti



Shegufta, you are gifted with the power to express. I love reading your takes too. Yes, JR will get persuaded to believe Nandu who has just entered the house and already throwing her weight around rather than trust his Dil whom he had lived with for six months. He is mad to believe that Tara would lie about such a thing just to get away from answering where she was the previous night. He knows just how much the woman loves her husband. Would he even dare to suspect her to be of loose morals considering she spent the night out? Should he not think that if she is hiding something from him there should be a good enough reason. If she is making a serious allegation that his revered brother is a eunuch, there must be something to it? I would rather that he thinks she has come unhinged because of MJ's imprisonment rather than think her to be immoral or a liar? Anyway it is a given that he is not going to trust her or help her.


Coming to help from FC and Nimmo, I agree with you that it is welcome that Tara will get support from unexpected quarters. I think FC's help may come after the attack on Tara because FC is the only one who is aware of RP's truth. He is not helping because he thinks Tara has misunderstood him but if she gets attacked, it should not take long for FC to put two and two together to figure out Kala was behind this. He knows what Kala is capable of. As to Nimmo, her help will be forthcoming only when she comes to know that MJ is her son. I don't think that will happen soon or maybe it will.

This show is unpredictable. It is low on IQ (for many things make no sense) but high on EQ. Now we have a new CV too. No wonder they have completely blacked out the fact that Tara has seen her father before and they had a photo of him in their house before she got married (he looked nothing like Guruji). Now AD tells Yug that she has kept her children from memories of their father by destroying all his pictures. Maybe this is to explain why Tara could not recognise her dad when she saw him in prison. Looks like the true identity will get revealed only when AD sees that tavis Guruji gifted Tara.



It is idiotic and how much more are we going to excuse??😕

Jairaj is believing the greedy Nandu over his beloved Daughter-in-law!!!!

Oh no!!!!A new CV!!!!

That always means that the show will have no connection to what was shown before!!!!😒




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice one there shagufta.
Rudra and nandini are results of parenting gone wrong.I can somehow sympathize with RP but I am unable to make myself sympathize with Nandu.Her grievances are more result of self-initiated negative thought process, non-realistic ambitions and extreme jealousy.
But I loved your moral of the story 👍🏼

Answers to your soul stirring questions
Did SR happen?
80% yes otherwise no point of that dressing and SR like room set up.😉
If so will they show more?
They are smart enough to know fandom is dying to see SR.They will definitely show.TRP ka sawaal hai 😉
Tara has seen her father's picture so can guruji be her father?
100% yes
What excuse will Tara come up with tonight?
She will say the truth and no know will even try to understand
Will Nirmala find out more about her missing son?
yes , it is like she is on treasure hunt and finds another clue when she reaches one clue



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