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Posted: 13 years ago
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I disagree with some of the comments here that Satyabhama was Krishna's favorite wife. I also heard this mentioned in some texts, but the actual purana calls Shri Krishna a yogi even after marriage. He never had any favorites and to him, all his wives were one, the different amsas of Goddess Lakshmi. Saying Krishna had a favorite wife is insulting to his other wives, and also insulting to him since he was no Ravan to create a distinction between his wives. Only mortal men with more than one wife have favorites, because the human heart can love only one woman the best...try as it might, it cannot love more than one at the same time. But Shri Krishna was no ordinary man. He was a yogi during the entirety of his avatar, while doing the raas leela with the Gopis at Vrindavan and also during all his various marriages.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: skarriramsai



But, Neetha shetty is still acting in Dhoond Legi... As far as I know her role is very much "on" in the serial. Though sometimes she tends to overact, she will surely be better than the other girls, it luks like. Anyways can't say🤢

Also, Dhoond legi manzil has its set erected in Pune. Dwarakadeesh's set is in Baroda. so, how can this actress manage two shows in tow diff. places?

She will ply through Charter flight or wat ?😉

OK guess I am wrong. Though it looked like her in the promo, yesterday I didnt think it was her when I watched the episode itself. Am too confused. Need to see more.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

I disagree with some of the comments here that Satyabhama was Krishna's favorite wife. I also heard this mentioned in some texts, but the actual purana calls Shri Krishna a yogi even after marriage. He never had any favorites and to him, all his wives were one, the different amsas of Goddess Lakshmi. Saying Krishna had a favorite wife is insulting to his other wives, and also insulting to him since he was no Ravan to create a distinction between his wives. Only mortal men with more than one wife have favorites, because the human heart can love only one woman the best...try as it might, it cannot love more than one at the same time. But Shri Krishna was no ordinary man. He was a yogi during the entirety of his avatar, while doing the raas leela with the Gopis at Vrindavan and also during all his various marriages.

I do see where you are coming from. Agreed he was more like a Yogi. If it is not considered blasphemous in me saying this, there are infact many texts in vaishnavism that state that Krishna had sex only for the purpose of giving his wife the most divine experinece of being a mother. It is said that none of the wives were able to attract him either by lust or for sex. it was more his mortal duty which he performed. And his 8 wives each had 10 sons and 1 daughter. His marraige to each and every wife also has a story and purpose behind it.
But I certianly dont think that it is an insult to his other wives. Just like this text, it is also stated that Satyabhama was his preferred wife. he did spend a lot of time in her company.
But his soul mate was always Rukmini with whom he never had the need to give any explanation. Simlalrly among all his children, Krishna is said to have been fond of Jambavathi's children more than the rest.
And saying he was fond of one more is definitely not an insult and neither does it imply that he created a distinction. He did not listen to one wife to trouble the other. if he had done that then it would have been a distinction. But as an avatar in a human form he was more fond of Satyabhama.
Like Vaarali said in another thread, Narada did want to test krishna once to see how is able to spend time with his numerous wives and he was shocked beacuse he saw Krishna with each one of his wives. He was omnipresent but they were his forms and not his actual self. But a manifestation of his form. His real self is said to have been mainly between his 8 wives and more with Satyabhama.
Infact, the devotion of the Gopikas is said to be even more pure than that of Krishna's wives. When Udhava takes them a letter from Krishna, the letter is torn to bits and they see Krishna in each and very piece of that letter. Its when Udhav sees Krishna with each and every gopika he realises what true devotion is. Once when Krishna fakes a headache, he asks Narada to get the dust of his devotee and it would cure him. When narada asks his wives, including Rukmini and Satyabhama they refuse saying their feet dust on Krishna's forehead will be sinful. But when Narada apporaches the Gopi, they give it without any hesitation. Which is when Narada states that the Gopikas devotion is the highest. Now, does this mean his wives were not devoted to him and an insult to him? No way.
Just my view point.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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^^ I get what you're saying, and I can understand where you're coming from, but still I don't believe that God could have any favorites, whether it be for wives or sons. I know texts mention Satyabhama as the favorite wife and Jambavathi's children as his favorite kids, but favoritism is a humanistic quality and I don't believe God, even in a human avatar, would show favoritism. Even though Kaushalya was his real mother, Ram never showed any partiality or favoritism towards her. All three of Dashrath's wives were equal to him because he did not want to create a distinction between his birth mother and stepmothers like a normal human. Even though Krishna Avatar was different and the personality of Krishna differed greatly from Ram's, their teachings were very similar and their Godliness as well...Ram's was more hidden since he always proclaimed himself to be human more than God, while Krishna's was more noticeable since he never claimed to be just human, but there are definitely a lot of similarities.
Just like Krishna never showed any distinction between the Gopis, or any favoritism towards Yashoda over Devaki since the former brought him up, he never showed any favoritism or distinction amongst any of his wives or children.
Placing the wives aside, it is first of all totally wrong to show favoritism between your children. No truly good parent loves one child over another, so I don't believe for a second that Krishna preferred Jambavathi's children to the children of his other wives...they all were his kids and Krishna would never commit the sin of loving one child over the other. That would make him comparable to Dhritarastra, who blatantly preferred Duryodhan to his other children. As for the wives, Bhagawat Mahapuraan says that Krishna was a yogi in both mind and body. Like you mentioned above, he gave his wife children just so they would enjoy the joys of motherhood, otherwise he lived his entire life without any humanistic desires or pleasures.
I personally think it was Satyabhama's interpretation that Krishna preferred her to his other wives, because that was the kind of personality she had before Narad broke her pride, and the writers later on interpreted it that way also. It is also wrong saying only Rukmini was Krishna's soulmate, because all eight wives were the amsas of Goddess Lakshmi and Lakshmi Ma is the soulmate of Lord Vishnu in every age and yuga. All eight wives were Krishna's soulmates (or else Krishna would not marry them, would he?😳) because they all were the same only.
If you want, we can agree to disagree since this is not a major issue to debate on anyway😆. I hold to my belief that Krishna never showed any favoritism or special preference for any particular wife or child, because that would be going against his character and making him an ordinary mortal instead of an amsa of Lord Vishnu.
Edited by JanakiRaghunath - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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You are entitled to your belief Janaki and me to mine. I do dis agree.
Comparison between Rama and Krishna itself is not right. They were completely different. Rama never knew or he never showed that he was an incarnation. Whereas Krishna from day has known the purpose of his existence.
I dont think its Sathybhama's interpretation. It is something which has passed through generations. and If all 8 were Lakshmi's amsas and his soul mates, then, why only Rukmini offered the tulsi and the balance was rectified. There is some meaning and substance to it. I completely dis agree here.
Whether a true parent or not, every parent has a favourite. They may not make an express distinction but they definitely prefer one over the other and this is a universal truth. Just beacuse they prefer one over the other does not mean they are bad parents.
And since Krishna married 16,108 or 16008 wives not all can be termed as avatars of Lakshmi.
Dhrithrasthra wanted Duryodhana as the eldets to take the crown as he felt he had suffered injustice. Duryodhana was being used to fulfil his desires, his alter ego. But no where does Mahabharta say that Dhritrashtra preferred Duryodhana to his other sons. Or that he was partial to him or only liked him. As the eldest he wanted him to take on the mantle of being a king.
Infact no record stated Duryodhana or Dristrashtra as being unjust or unfair except to the Pandavas. Their is no record as far I know that they illtretaed their subjects or were bad kings.
And as an incarnation, they were supposed ehibit those very traits of a Human. They were God's incarnation in human form.
And just beacuse some os said to be preferred or a favpourite does not imply or mean that the others were treated badly or ignored.
Edited by vinuchand - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: vinuchand

You are entitled to your belief Janaki and me to mine. I do dis agree.

Comparison between Rama and Krishna itself is not right. They were completely different. Rama never knew or he never showed that he was an incarnation. Whereas Krishna from day has known the purpose of his existence. Ram may not have shown as many miracles as Krishna, but he definitely did show some...no normal human could have turned a stone into a woman without freaking out😆, so just that fact itself tells me that Ram knew he was God, but acted like a human to teach people how to live the ideal life.😳 How can God not know about himself, especially Lord Narayana? There were also other incidents, like sages bowing down to him during vanvaas, killing Khar and Dushan's 14,000 rakshas with just one arrow, etc, and remember, after Ram killed Ravan and the devtas appeared to him, Brahma told him that he was the avatar of Lord Vishnu, and Ram neither denied it nor did he proclaim himself to be god. He said that in that life, he was the son of Dashrath and that is all he knows.
I dont think its Sathybhama's interpretation. It is something which has passed through generations. and If all 8 were Lakshmi's amsas and his soul mates, then, why only Rukmini offered the tulsi and the balance was rectified. It is stated in the Bhagwat Puraan that all eight chief queens of Krishna were the avatars of the ashta Lakshmis, and Rukmini was Adi Lakshmi (or the complete one). All the other wives were under Yogmaya's illusion so that they could enjoy being the wives of Krishna as ordinary humans, without knowing of their divine identities. Only Rukmini and Krishna knew about their divine avatars. There is some meaning and substance to it. I completely dis agree here.
Whether a true parent or not, every parent has a favourite. I definitely don't agree with this statement. How can a parent love one child more than another, when both were born from him/her? I agree that some parents may connect with one child over the other because of common interests and all (which is why we hear terms like daddy's little girl or mommy's boy), but parents do not have favorites and they do love all equally. Even preference is a wrong word for this, I would call it bonding because parents do not feel happier in the presence of one child over the other. Having preference is definitely not a universal truth because it is against morality and moreover wrong. They may not make an express distinction but they definitely prefer one over the other and this is a universal truth. Just beacuse they prefer one over the other does not mean they are bad parents.
And since Krishna married 16,108 or 16008 wives not all can be termed as avatars of Lakshmi. The 16. 100 wives were women during the Treta Yug who wished to marry Ram but could not because he was an Eka Patnivrat, while Krishna's eight queens were the Ashta Lakshmis. Many don't know this, but it is stated explicitly in the Bhagwat Puraan.
Infact no record stated Duryodhana or Dristrashtra as being unjust or unfair except to the Pandavas. Perhaps Duryodhana was a good ruler, but Dhritarastra was definitely a bad King because for the sake of his ego, he sacrificed the lives of thousands. He never stopped his sons from doing ill deeds and a righteous King should never be partial to his family when situation requires him to be totally impartial. Dhritarastra is the best example of how bad a King can go. Their is no record as far I know that they illtretaed their subjects or were bad kings.
And as an incarnation, they were supposed ehibit those very traits of a Human. They were God's incarnation in human form. They were supposed to exhibit the good traits of a human, not the bad. The point of their incarnations was to teach human how to live, how to help society, and how to be a good, moral human being. That is why Ram showed people the advantages of a one man-one woman marriage, and Krishna taught people how politics should be. Even with his many wives, Krishna never had any favorites or attachments. In the Brahma Vaivarta Puraan, Radha accuses Krishna at one point of having no attachments, and Krishna tells her that she is right. He was the avatar that was attached to no one. He performed his duty and taught people what Dharma was, but he also taught them how a human can go astray with too many emotions and attachments. He was Prem Avataar, but at the same time he was a Yogi.
And just beacuse some os said to be preferred or a favpourite does not imply or mean that the others were treated badly or ignored. It definitely does, because if one wife is the favorite over another, that means the others are considered lesser or less important, and that itself gives a negative feeling of neglect, sadness, and/or jealousy to the other wives. I don't believe Krishna would ever have done this to his other wives.🤔

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Back on topic, today, we got to see Satyabhama a bit more, and she looked like a real sourpuss - like marrying Krishna was the worst thing that happened to her. Really, is there such a shortage of actresses in the market for such a role?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i think they r taking television actress as the role is small and i think no actress will playe small role and will only standing aroung main lead guy.

for rukmini

she was special and her role was more in first month and also she is main wife of him thats why they choose priya who is kow face

but afterward they will going to choose any other star
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Posted: 13 years ago
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For Jambavati, that's okay. But Satyabhama was not a minor wife of Krishna, so picking a minor actress is not justified for her. And since we're talking Sagars, the actor pool they have - assuming that they are into mythos the way the Sagars supposedly are - should easily be able to provide major actors for this role.
That way, in the Krishna context, as opposed to Mahabharat, even Draupadi is a minor role, so should then pick some 2nd grade actress to play her? They're competing w/ JJJB on who can pick worse actors for major roles - they've given Sita's role to a completely new actress in that serial.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Vrish_

They're competing w/ JJJB on who can pick worse actors for major roles - they've given Sita's role to a completely new actress in that serial.

Wasn't Debina also a new face though? Even Gurmeet was totally new to the television industry, and yet both were well received by the audience. I don't mind new faces as long as they look apt for their role and act good.

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