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^^^ As a kid, I got it from a whole bunch of Amar Chitra Kathas (Krishna, Krishna & Jarasandha, Krishna & Rukmini, Krishna & Sishupala, Swayamtaka Gem, Krishna & the False Vasudeva, Krishna & Narakasura, as well as the major Mahabharat collection ACKs). Then, as I grew up, I read quite a bit of other material (but not the scriptures in their original directly - I'm not aware of most of them being available in English, which for me is needed), like the Mahabharat (mahabharatonline.com) and other online sources like Sushma Gupta on oocities.org (formerly on geocities).

Originally posted by: _Vrish_

There is plenty of evidence to contend that neither Lakshmi, nor Adisesha have to accompany Vishnu when he comes to earth.

In Matsya avatar, when Vishnu took the form of a horned fish (not a swordfish), he needed a snake to tie him to the boat that saved the saptarshis. Here, he could have used Sesh nag - his serpantine throne - as a chain, but didn't. Instead he used Vasuki.

In Kurma avatar, he married Lakshmi in his original form, and so that was where Lakshmi entered. But here too, in the samudra manthan, he again used Vasuki, rather than Sesha-nag as the rope used to rotate the mountain.

In Varaha, Narasimha, Vamana and Parashurama avatars, neither Lakshmi nor Sesha nag went w/ him. Granted, Varaha and Narasimha were really brief, and so they were not needed, and besides, there was no role for Lakshmi there. But Sesha Nag could have accompanied him as a warrior, but didn't.

In Vamana avatar, I think Vishnu was there for a while - don't think he grew overnight. There would have been no role for Sesha Nag here, but Lakshmi didn't incarnate to be Vamana's wife.

In Parashuram avatar, Vishnu took that form (and left it according to some accounts after Parashuram's encounter w/ Rama). Parashuram lived throughout the Treta and Dwapar Yugas. Despite that, Lakshmi didn't incarnate to marry him, and Sesha Nag didn't incarnate to be his companion.

In Rama avatar, Valmiki doesn't claim that Lakshman is Sesha-nag: by that account, Lakshman is part of Vishnu himself, as is Bharat & Shatrughan. It's in Adhyatma that Lakshman is Sesha Nag.

In Kalki Avatar, Lakshmi is supposed to incarnate as Ramaa and marry him, but Sesha Nag isn't scheduled to come w/ him.

I differ on your Kalki Avataar Vrish...Kalki will at the fag end of Kaliyuga..and he will be riding on white horse..and Shesh or Anant will be in form of Horse...I hope most of members have seen the picture of Kalki..riding on horse with a huge sword in his hand...It is mentioned in Srimad Bhagwad in the 12th and Last chapter of Kaliyuga..

Set Raj

[QUOTE=set_rajI differ on your Kalki Avataar Vrish...Kalki will at the fag end of Kaliyuga..and he will be riding on white horse..and Shesh or Anant will be in form of Horse...I hope most of members have seen the picture of Kalki..riding on horse with a huge sword in his hand...It is mentioned in Srimad Bhagwad in the 12th and Last chapter of Kaliyuga..

Originally posted by: _Vrish_

[QUOTE=set_rajI differ on your Kalki Avataar Vrish...Kalki will come at the fag end of Kaliyuga..and he will be riding on white horse..and Shesh or Anant will be in form of Horse...I hope most of members have seen the picture of Kalki..riding on horse with a huge sword in his hand...It is mentioned in Srimad Bhagwad in the 12th and Last chapter of Kaliyuga..

Vrish we all know who Shesha is?..Lord Vishnu rest on Snake bed..i.e Shesha..so why cant he come in form of Horse?..😊 Here it is the proof kalki and his horse known as Devadutta from Srimad Bhagwad Puran..

Reason for Radhaji and Rukminiji's avatar :
Lakshmi ji was cursed that she will marry some1 else in dwapar yuga as Radha. So she took Rukmini avtar to marry Krishna.
N actually she never got married to real ayaan ghosh /abhimanyu. Krishna is known for his leela's , he married or were just engaged to Radhaji in Aryaan roop.
Its just how Shi Vishnu ji can Love or marry anyother then Lakshmiji... Vishnu or Lakshmi in any form or avatar will lv or marry eachother.
Same with Shiva, He first married Sati and then Parvati

Yes, Kalki will born at the end of kalyug riding a house i.e. Shesh

Originally posted by: _Vrish_

Set Raj

I thought that Prahlad too was immortal. Didn't know about Markandeya!

Markandeya most certainly yes. Prahalada was never a Chiranjeevi. he only had a boon that after his time, he will go straight to Vaikunta. As far as Markandeya is concerned, his mother had to chose between a dud of a son who will live long or a very bright one who will die on his 16th birthday and she chose the latter. So when he saw his mom crying and depressed as his 16th birthday approached and knew the reaon, Markandeya undertook severe penance and prayed to Lord Shiva. Who was so pleased that he granted him the chiranjeevi boon.

Originally posted by: shivanipandit29

balramji is testtube type baby. he has devki's genes but rohini's blood rohini was surrogate mother.

ROFL. This is the correct description in modern times.

And set Raj thanks for the info.

Originally posted by: vinuchand

Markandeya most certainly yes. Prahalada was never a Chiranjeevi. he only had a boon that after his time, he will go straight to Vaikunta. As far as Markandeya is concerned, his mother had to chose between a dud of a son who will live long or a very bright one who will die on his 16th birthday and she chose the latter. So when he saw his mom crying and depressed as his 16th birthday approached and knew the reaon, Markandeya undertook severe penance and prayed to Lord Shiva. Who was so pleased that he granted him the chiranjeevi boon.

Markandeya's prayer to Lord Shiva, which says, "Chandrashekhar ma rakshayati kim karishyati vai yama", tells so well that he can not be harmed by Yama.