Was Nandani right?

Hi!

Watched previous episodes of MMZ today. I wanted to share few points regarding Arjun's past and Sam's current behaviour

Firstly regarding Nandani that what they have shown till now doesn't help me sympathise with either Arjun or Nandani. I can't connect with them or his pain. The story seems too superficial and has been shown a lot of times.
Secondly what bothers me the most is the fact that she gave away her life for a man who didn't love her?! I have read about such incidents in real life but I still don't get why do girls do such childish things? You can't waste your life for a looser juet like that. Also the fact that they have shown that Samrat clearly told her that he had a family and couldn't leave them for her but still she hopes to marry him irks me. I can't understand that why do girls have high hopes from such relationships. If a guy can't accept infront of the world that he loves you then how would he marry you? And then they go on take their lives for so called betrayal from them. I mean get some sense lady if he couldn't belong to his family his wife and children then how would he be yours?
Also as they showed that Samrat clearly mentioned that the ring was just a gift and Nandani herself thought of the wedding disturbs me a lot. Why do girls or boys in general think that if the other person gifts you something or dates you means he or she is in love?? I loved the MMZ promo where Radhika refuses Saral when he informs his frnds that they are marrying by saying they are just friends. I think people should realize that all relationships do not mean that the other person loves you.
I think people should understand the fact that taking your own life for someone who is least bothered makes no sense. Rather they should live for the people who love them. Nandani should have lived for Arjun atleast. Also the fact that extra marital affairs are most insecured relations and people involved shouldn't have high hopes from them. I mean what would you get after breaking somebody else' family? And what is the surity that the other partner wouldn't cheat on you.
And this not only for the female partner but for the male partner as well. It takes two hands to clap. Not one.

Please share your views.
And I am not a women hater or feminist.
I am a girl myself and such storys irk me so just wanted to discuss it.

you are absolutely correct. cv needed to come up with better story to gain sympathy for arjun.

ok here goes.

I wanted a strong back story for Arjun's revenge.

Originally posted by: bila_a

ok here goes.

well your right these things happen a lot in real life, and its easy to say oh why would someone take their lives like that over a guy or why not stay for the ones you love, why would you as women be with someone who cares least for you but its not as easy as it looks. similarly to someone in a abusive marriage or with a parents/family or partner, its not easy at all. cause people in those situations even are told why do you stay with etc. i mean you cant say to someone who is depressed get over it, oh your life is perfect why are you depressed but its not as simple as that. its more complex then black and white.

i've never been in love so its easy for me to say the same thing as you, like forget about the guy etc. but i can imagine it must be really painfully. people have in real life have died over a broken heart, not even suicide

these types of love like nandini is referred to an addiction type of love in psychology i guess. love is all consuming when you do fall, the feeling is something else and to not being able to have it or lose it is crushing, and nandini seemed to have gone into depression over it, people have resilience and others lack resilience, some people can deal with losing love some others just cant. and of course martial affairs should be a red flag for any women this guy isnt right, but i guess when love is involved its blinding and the other women thinks that love is real, the guy will make you feel like he loves you the most and does nice things to prove it and tell you that he will leave until he doesnt. once in love one cant see beyond to the bigger picture.

the biggest reason people kill themselves is depression, and no matter how many people you have around you that love you or in this case had only arjun, its still not enough and thats the scary part of depression. many parents have killed themselves despite having kids. depression severely clouds your judgment and mind and makes you feel sad and horrible, twisting your reality. you start to be able not to enjoy or feel anything. trust me, i may have not been depressed but i felt like i really came close to that. the feeling is really hard to understand and escape from. im just lucky i hadnt fallen into it, other may have looked at me like why would you get to that point your life isnt so bad.

im not sure how nandini met samrat, maybe she fell for him not knowing he had a wife and kid only finding out latter, or samrat wooed her and she gave into that only to find out he would not leave his family. im also not sure what kind of life nandini had before samrat, cause if she had never fallen in love or didnt have such a good life those could make her easily vulnerable to this situation.

as for arjun, arjun was a orphan, nanidni was all he had in his life and the only person who he felt loved him. to see a parental figure fall apart like that in front of your eyes like that especially for a child is pretty devastating and reality changing. thats the only reality he knows of what happened and since he was a kid that whole situation and the way nandini behaved could have easily manipulated and influenced his perception and reality as being the only truth. he may not know the whole truth but seeing nandini fall apart like and die as a kid he made up his mind and feeling of hatred took over, as it probably would seeing someone you love die and being a child the reason would be samrat even though its not as simple as that.

theres a lot of psychology that goes into both arjun and nandini and understanding them and their situation. i suggest you read up on people like these, women like nandini and the psychological effect of it and on kids to. its very interesting.and can help you give more insight.

also we shouldnt project our experiences and resilience and expectations on others cause we are all different and behave and react differently. we may be able to handle things but others may not be able to. humans are complex that way. i may go to someone oh why are you so upset over that little thing, but to them that little thing maybe the most painful thing they have faced ths far in their life whereas you might have faced something more difficult thats why you may view it as stupid.

plus there are different types of women in this show, so im fine with that, i wanna see complex and different types of women whether someone like nandini, sam or radhika.

anyways i could more on this matter as i study psychology but i feel like i might wright a whole paper on it lol, best you research it.

btw dont thin either re right but just seeing the psychology behind it to why they were like that and why they are doing it. im sure arjun will come out of it soon

Hey I agree with the depression clouding one's thoughts. I have seen my closest family member going through depression few months back and I completely agree that one is not able to think in the right direction. But then it still dossn't stand right that a girl or a boy waste their life like this. I disagree on the part that a problem is small for someone and big some one else. I think no problem is such that one looses their state of mind and kill themselves. And I think it has nothing to do with love or relationship rather it depends on your understanding of life that nobody is more important that your life for you. Also I beg to differ on the part where you said that extra marital relationships can't be avoided sometimes because the other partner showers you with love. As I mentioned in the post also that one should already keep in mind what they are entering into. Even if they realise the truth later I think the best way is to leave that relationship and try to move on. About Samrat not telling her about his family, he clearly told her that he would not leave his family for her from the beginning and also that the ring was just a gift. So I think here she should have realised as a person that there was no use of dying for him. And she didn't seem to be a psycho. Loved your other points. No offence but I still think that love is not more important than your life. If you yourself are not there then what is the use of love?!
Had a good time discussing all these points

Good post.
Nandini had psychological problems. She needed a doctor. But poor girl wasn't rich enough to see a doctor but she could waste money on buying alcohol. Sounds pretty ridiculous.

For Arjun being orphan etc---------can't give him the right to hate, destroy everyone he sees in his way. It's his misfortune that his parents died or left him. But there are lots of examples in life who were orphans , poor, deprived etc---------but they build up their life.

As usual there are rich girls too who spent their lives like Nandini. So orphan can't be an excuse.

Destroying your life or building up your life is one's own choice.
So far what I understood Arjun is suffering from the same mental problem like Nandini was suffering. Hate the world, only I am hurt, only I am tortured, destroy everyone. Who is Radhika? Remember his first reaction when he didn't let her in the toilet. That's Arjun. Coming from a low class and misbehaving with his juniors. His past only confirms that he was raised by a psycho and turned another over proud psycho who doesn't think about people lower than him or poorer than him.

Yes! The man got great issues. Like disrespecting specially woman. I wonder what would he do if Samrat lost his daughter Sam in that car accident and Jai lived. How would he take revenge then.

You can bring hundred causes-------------Nandini ki demagi halat thik nehi thi------then she should go to doctor. She was depressed . So what? The way Arjun is behaving with everyone very soon he will make everyone depressed.

The lesson is ----------Pagol ko maut chhoro. Take him /her to a doctor.

Unless they would come with a strong reason behind Arjun's animal like behavior-------I can't support him or feel any sympathy for that poor girl. Who had a lot of money to waste on alcohol but couldn't see a doctor for her mental problem. Falling in love with a person who is married -------and has kids----------is a sin. She has committed that and punished.

I don't think Samrat wasn't punished too. Look at his family. He lost his son, wife turned another psycho, daughter was suffering -------till Radhika came in. Shayad kuch punna kiya tha---------so he was survived. But still his business is falling. Without Arjun's help ------he might turn in to a beggar. That's divine punishment. I'm shocked----------why Arjun is not seeing that? God already punished Samrat. If Samrat is really a criminal-----Arjun can destroy him in his business and later tell him that it is for Nandini. That will be enough. Even without his much contribution Samrat is already there. There is no need for Arjun to ruin his life or Sam's or Radhika's. He is already winning.

But Arjun ke to kismat-e phooti. What to do? Even Radhika can't help him. He was calling her again and again Panauti. What is he? Devil? Or else why Radhika's charm is not working on him.?

Nah. Sorry. Still can't feel sad with his so called Nadu or her saaad story.

This show is nothing new but makers r trying hard to replicate it to ipk. All the scenes literally reminds me of ipk but there was a story a plot n precision in characterisation, which is lacking.

@jhalak7 and prarthana-I so agree with what u have written someone spoke truth finally

Arjun doing same thing as samrat -whats the difference between both now

About Nandini-she is wrong totally wrong liking a married person with kids is not a person with values do

And in all this a girl like Sam is getting punished

But sadly makers r unaware. Also I had a friend who happened to be my neighbour, she was an adopted child so had to face many things n later she met a guy who had a bff, this girl n that man started meeting n the bff started cribbing n bad mouthing the girl so listening to his bff he broke of with this girl n later on the bff himself married this girl now the scenario is friendship has no existence n families broke off all the ties wid each other not only this the guy who dumped her had sister who was to be married in the same family also broke. They bffs were born together if they can part their ways what is the worth of friendship which is few days old.