My Heart goes out to u Shivani..but its not worth it - Page 2

Originally posted by: dhakarn

good post jyoti... raghu is worth it, but his family is not ...

completely agree when u say that shivani is quite like raghu ... she too is selfless n always thinking of other people around her , especially the ones she loves... she loves raghu n her mind n heart has accepted his family too wholeheartedly , however mean n greedy n bad they are ... she has no grudges whatsoever with any of them... she is so pure hearted ...

Yes and thats where Sumitra is using this weakness of hers to her advantage .. Sumi knows Shivani will do it all seflelssly for the family and thats where she is trapping Shivani ... I hope somehow Sumi is exposed at least .. cant tolerate her evil smirks anymore

latha's twin personality is to the fore again ... on one hand she gives lectures on family honour n does things to taint it ... n here she gives lectures on a girls honor n the need to uphold it to shivani that day n when shivani was trying to do the same thing , she goes all ballistic over her !!!! ... wasn't she the one who was worried about ginni's education n was saying that ginni's marriage won't happen in 2-3 years ... what the hurry?

I guess she is swinging between a woman and a housewife who is bound to the duties towards her family .. When Shivani was blasting that family , Latha's expression showed for a split second she felt proud of Shivani as a woman but when Baburam lost his fuse and told Latha how none gonna marry Ginni now , that typical housewife and mother in her went into the orthodox mode and blasted off Shivani despite knowing that she is right 🤔

trust the CVs to throw a damb squid on us in the form of sumitra-shivani cat fight which in the end frizzled out to nothing as the whole issue was on dowry n not who made what n who put up curtains... !!!

yeah .. I still feel CVs r timepassing till Raghu is back 😆

shivani stays at raghu house , believing that he loves her , in the process loving n accepting his family as hers too , after giving up all she had n she has to listen to crap from all!!!! ... much like raghu during mu track... i won't actually say that its not worth it to shivani as bela , nishi n ginni r too from the same family... they r all good people with right notions about what's right n wrong (i mean bela especially) n not believe that society rules r the ultimatum...

I stil says its not worth it because nothing is worth beyond one's self-respect .. Shivani should not take every simgle nonsense from family in the name of selfless love .. she should protest at times too .. Bela though is an exception in this family but somewhere she is bound by society pressure too or else when Maya trapped her in that false stealing fiasco , Bela would not leave the house for her self-respect .. she too knows post marriage husband's house is only her house .. and thats a typical mentality again .,.

i wonder if raghu was present there what would have been the situation? surely he would have opposed the dowry demand ... but would the family go for his throat n accuse him of spoiling ginni's life ? no...! may be baburam would, he is bad ! he has only one thing in his mind! money ! ... but will the others accuse him? especially latha? no! ... bec its raghu who is saying ... but here as its shivani , its convenient to accuse her ...

Latha obviously would hv remained quiet if it was Raghu and thats where I said its not worth it because one can clearly see the hypocracy here ...

n i don't think raghu thinks that she can't stay in his family bec of his family members mean nature n different rules ... so far we haven't seen him thing along those lines... we r just 'assuming' that he would have thought like that ... so far Cvs has only showed him worrying about 'servant-master' divide n 'richness' factor plus the 'sin' factor of having any sort of desire for his 'maliksa's pothi'...

Dhanya what is a discussion without assumptions .. if we just write whats shown in epi , there is no room for discussion ..isn't it .. in this case I m not really assuming though because if u remember the rickshaw episode , Raghu did hv a self talk after remembering how Shivani is used to travelling in AC cars but today travelling in busses and rickshaws because of him ... Another point when Raghu himself told Shivani there is zameen and aasman ka difference between us .. the difference of rich and poor .. and on another occasion he told Bela that hum dono ka koi Mel nahin hai ... when he says naukar and malkin too , he means this only ... the difference of mentality .. the difference of ooch and neech .. the difference of class and conduct ... the difference of society ... the differtence of family culture clash ... everything is included in a malkin and naukar equation...

between will love to see a post from u too 😃

Originally posted by: DivzOnAir

Good post jyo.

I liked how Shivani took a stand against d groom's family. But the moment she opened her mouth, I was sure that its gonna go so against her.

Yeah I was like here we go again

I understand wat shi was trying to say, n being a feminist i m happy, but like u said, wat was the point? She should knw by now that she is considered an outsider in that house, n wen d heads of the house are there who not only are much older than her, but also the girl's parents, she should just hav kept her trap shut for the moment, n talk to d family once the guests left. But then in haveli she always had the freedom of speech so can't really expect her to keep quiet. Hope she learnt two important lessons today. But precap suggests otherwise.

True ... she is used to that freedom of speech in her haveli and so she never thought that it will backfire in this case ... her intentions were good but it backfired in this case ... I guess its a typical realisation for any girl that there is a whole lot of difference between one's maayka and one's sasural ..

Actually I think this much abused dowry track should be abolished from tv shows. But usually the entire family stands with the bride or the bhabhi or whoever the heroine is, whereas here there was a difference. There wasn't anyone supporting the heroine. Can't help but wonder if bela or raghu would hav supported her, or they too would hav felt it only natural that dowry be given...

I hope Raghu and Bela comes to know about it and we get to see their reactions next week .. only then we can put our doubts to rest .. I m sure they would hv supported Shivani

The guy's family said so many things, n the seheriya family could take offence only at the fact that shi refused to acknowledge the dowry demand. They conveniently turned a deaf ear to the allegation of two wives staying in d same room. Or will it b brought up soon?

I guess it will b brought up soon with Latha's 7 day deadline hopefully ending tomorrow or next week and she finally making a decision ..

As for babs getting 10 lakh, hmm...simple he will ask raghu, vivek n roop. N raghu will hav to run arnd trying to gather the entire money.

Yeah typical of Baburam 😆


Precap..o someone pm me wen Arhaan is back. I'll skip the episodes till then... 😛 o who m I kidding.. but truly I hav never felt so happy that weekend is only one episode away...

I had the same feel too ... I really want to skip the epis but just aadat se majboor 😆

Originally posted by: rekrn

Nice Post Jyoti

Shivani was absolutely right about the dowry system and glad that she took a stand. Shivani needs to not react impulsively all the time but needs to think thing thru...her making the decision and telling the family that they will not give money I think was not her place, her intention was good, but the decision should have been Babs and Latha's. That's what I think hurt them the most, that she didn't let them make the decision, she sort of overlooked their authority.

I agree here .. they r Ginni's parents after all .. they hv the right to make a decision .. I guess Shivani could hv protested once the family had gone .. in private instead of saying in front of the public .. her intention was right and she wanted to protect the family but yes u hv a point

I don't live in India, so I'm not that familiar with the dowry system, but from what I know and have read, that this is the way some parts of India operate, so the people are used to it. Dowry is not a good system but I think in order to change people's opinion about it takes time, you can't expect their views to change overnight. Shivani should have not said anything, let the parents talk and later talked to L and B in private. Even if B&L would have agreed, the wedding would not have proceeded until they received the money, so the time was there I think for her talk to them alone.

Yess the practice still exists even in bigger cities of India .. unfortunate but true ... and many times parents even agree for it just because the family is good and rich .. so they should something real actually ... Until and unless this mentality of parents change , nothing gonna change in India .. And yes Shivani could hv protested later once that family had gone .. mayb called up Raghu or Bela and told them all .. things could hv been better handled then ...

Agree now the tables have switched in favor of Sumi. Don't know why Shivani didn't realize this when she was trying to outdo SUmi, she fell right into her trap.

yess ..

Don't know why the CV's showed this kind of scene without the presence of Raghu. I would like to think that Raghu would have stood up and said something against it but you never know with our CV's

Its because I feel this is like after thought written scene in absense of the actor .. he might b on leave or mayb sick and so they hv written this script in his absense mayb

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Originally posted by: Latha.I

nice post jyothi...agree...shivani deserves her due credit 2 day for standing out what is ri8👏 👏...she knows what to talk...what to do...but doesn't know HOW...she acts instantly...

yess .. and thats what got her in problem everytime

Latha again surprised...today...😕 there is no need to get angry on shivani...if not shown as supporting...she could have shown silent...maybe for Latha it's the way shivani spoke with them is more wrong than loosing a groom for Ginni...what ever maybe the reason I still cannot support Latha 2 day...

true .. she is swinging like a pendulum off late .. but did her anger come from the fact that baburam blew his fuse on her too when the family went off

baburam is expected...he is one character who has no double sides...always...has only one face on both sides of the coin...😆

the most consistent we can say 😆😆

cannot agree not wanting shivani to be ctive in family matters...well there is heaven to hell difference between Rana's and sehariyas...and she is aware of that...she has to learn how to deal with them...once R is back she will get her backbone...cannot escape from reality...face it...learn it experience it...and survive...😊

True but I guess she will take time .. right now I felt she should hv remained quiet and mayb secrelty informed Raghu or Bela about the whole matter and then things would hv gone the right way without this hungama ...she need to deal with these situations more smartly ...

Originally posted by: Uma-Arhaanfan

Nice post jyothi di.i think shivani will help maya and vivek this time.i think the cvs are delaying the actual main rashi track with these side tracks..dont know why but i feel even tomo we gonna get a epi without raghu...coming to the epi agree with all your points...

Originally posted by: heera1702

As usual wonderful post n thought n great thoughts by all too ...👏


Yup shi deserved to b applauded today 👏 but it went all against her but agree with divya ..she had to keep quiet in the presence of the heads n the guests ,she could have voiced her thoughts even after they left .😕 yes addressing this dowry issue too has become very cliche n nothing novel in it now .I still feel even after addressing it so much in every show n every way possible ,its still rampant in the indian society n is a status quotient for every class of the society .😡

I guess its her basic nature .. she just cant tolerate injustice and blows away her fuse without realising that people elder than her r sitting there who hv the right to take decision ofr their daughter ... so yeah her stand was right but mayb timing was wrong .. she could hv dealt the whole scenario later after the family left ...


But hope from now on shi will really think abt being independent now n think of becoming financially sound ,n yes its better she joins office before R comes back bcz he may never agree with this decision of hers .😕

yess I always believe that today's woman post marriage too should b financially independent so that she never faces any sort of taunts in her sasural .. thats why I want Shivani to take up a job ...

Thank God the parda parda game ended in the first part only ...relief ..n shi lost the game which she really dint play well she had to lose it .

Yeah thank god they dint drag the whole curtain fiasco ,.. and ypu she played the game with good intention .. infact she never took it like a game ... and thats where she lost it

Originally posted by: dhakarn

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I guess she is swinging between a woman and a housewife who is bound to the duties towards her family .. When Shivani was blasting that family , Latha's expression showed for a split second she felt proud of Shivani as a woman but when Baburam lost his fuse and told Latha how none gonna marry Ginni now , that typical housewife and mother in her went into the orthodox mode and blasted off Shivani despite knowing that she is right 🤔

yeah, me too felt that she was feeling proud for a split sec ... but she too needs to understand that in society a giver is always a giver , a taker always a taker ... she could just ruin ginni's life but can't accept that the relation, which was still in talking phase only, is broken ... n also her silence when the woman was telling about her son having 2 wives when did raghu commit bigamy? ...can't she or anyone clear the fact that shivani is the legal wife of raghu... in fact only legal n real wife of raghu

I guess the confusion is because Raghu who is suppose to b the husband himself is confused about his relationship status with either woman .. I mean even if Latha says Shivani is their bahu and Raghu's legal wife , then still question arises why is Sumitra staying in that house ... so it all comes back to square one only ... thats why I wanted Sumi to b sent back to her parent's house in the start itself

shivani stays at raghu house , believing that he loves her , in the process loving n accepting his family as hers too , after giving up all she had n she has to listen to crap from all!!!! ... much like raghu during mu track... i won't actually say that its not worth it to shivani as bela , nishi n ginni r too from the same family... they r all good people with right notions about what's right n wrong (i mean bela especially) n not believe that society rules r the ultimatum...

I stil says its not worth it because nothing is worth beyond one's self-respect .. Shivani should not take every simgle nonsense from family in the name of selfless love .. she should protest at times too .. Bela though is an exception in this family but somewhere she is bound by society pressure too or else when Maya trapped her in that false stealing fiasco , Bela would not leave the house for her self-respect .. she too knows post marriage husband's house is only her house .. and thats a typical mentality again .,.

i felt bela went away from the house more on the fact that her innocent daughter was falsly n horribly accused of theft ... if she wanted to go to her husband;s home n leave her maayka, she would have done it a lot more earlier as maya was continually accusing her

I guess Nishi factor was just the push or trigger point in a way which made her leave the house finally but the insecurity was always there in Bela that she had to stay in her Maayka post marriage . remember those old day scenes when Maya used to taunt and Bela used to say stuffs like how I m sitting in my maayka post marriage and so got to do all the work and used to show her frustration ... these kind of society pressures especially for middle class families always exist ..

n i don't think raghu thinks that she can't stay in his family bec of his family members mean nature n different rules ... so far we haven't seen him thing along those lines... we r just 'assuming' that he would have thought like that ... so far Cvs has only showed him worrying about 'servant-master' divide n 'richness' factor plus the 'sin' factor of having any sort of desire for his 'maliksa's pothi'...

Dhanya what is a discussion without assumptions .. if we just write whats shown in epi , there is no room for discussion ..isn't it .. in this case I m not really assuming though because if u remember the rickshaw episode , Raghu did hv a self talk after remembering how Shivani is used to travelling in AC cars but today travelling in busses and rickshaws because of him ... Another point when Raghu himself told Shivani there is zameen and aasman ka difference between us .. the difference of rich and poor .. and on another occasion he told Bela that hum dono ka koi Mel nahin hai ... when he says naukar and malkin too , he means this only ... the difference of mentality .. the difference of ooch and neech .. the difference of class and conduct ... the difference of society ... the differtence of family culture clash ... everything is included in a malkin and naukar equation...

what i meant was when n precap is shown or when some promo is shown or some news is given , we can assume n speculate that so n so is going to happen ... but here we r trying to think what a character thinks on scenes or situations already happened ... so its majorly their character n their thoughts n words(exactly as spoken by them) that guide us ... i know that we r lacking in self talks dept of both raghu n shivani 😆

I wish CVs give their self-talks .. most of the time we dunno what exactly goes in characters ka mind and heart .. and this is a common problem with every single daily soap I watch .. at times I feel CVs actually want us to assume or speculate so that accordingly they can prepare the next script 😆