Is it Love or Attraction or Loyalty from Raghu ? - Page 2

Originally posted by: ArhanAngadholic

My ques why raghu is nt maintaining any dist. frm Shi?? Practically if any1 loves you madly bt u dun bt u are aware frm his/her love den its natural u will maintain dist. wid him/her bt here case is totally diff Rag says he dun love shi n aware wid shi love then also he is comfortable wid her in every senese on other hand he promised sumi dat he will marry her n makeup his mind dat she will be his future partner den also he is maintaining dist. frm sumi :/

Originally posted by: DivzOnAir

I was long convinced that he is in love, but after the volley of posts, n finally reading yours I m not sure either. I think maybe love is too strong a word for his feelings right now. But I do feel attraction is too mild a term... mayb I'll call it a liking towards her. He likes her, very much. N more than a servant should like their mistress.

I always felt that he had a crush on Shivani, right from the beginning. Don't know why, but the way he spoke to her, or even about her gave me that vibe..

His feelings towards her r way past the loyalty stage. The pics you posted are proof enough for that. The way he looked at her when she came in, that was clearly raw attraction written all over his face..

N wen she wrapped him in that blanket of hers, it is not shock that's reflecting on his face...his face is so serene, as if he is content being lost in her eyes..

But his loyalty towards maliksa will not let him even think about his babyji as his wife, or lover, or even a crush for that matter. N forcing him to accept her love isn't gonna do the trick.

He doesn't have to admit it to her, but once he realises that he has some strong feelings towards babyji, that will b a turning point. He will definitely try to fight his feelings, but m sure he is gonna fail miserably. Shivani should focus on getting there...

Originally posted by: dhakarn

Superb post jyoti 😃

i feel its attraction plus loyalty plus love ... but mostly love... in raghu's own words that 'i-don't-know' feeling

raghu was forever attracted to shivani ... we saw instances from the start ...one eg: his mesmerized gaze when she was coming down the stairs for her engagement ... he admired her as someone so pure, serene, beautiful but un attainable , from a distance ...but his feelings were pure... with no trace of lust or desire ... then circumstances forced them to be together n we saw that he enjoys her company, smiles , laughs even jokes when he is with her ... n he talks a lot when he is with her but usually he is sort of reserved guy ...the instance : just after their marriage when he readies the bed in his room for her , he keeps talking n shivani asks him in surprise that she didn't know he talks this much ...to which he blushes ... the tough, silent bodyguard actually blushes ...

at the first part of her stay there he was more in servant/bodyguard mode ... all family even ... always trying to keep her happy, comfortable ... n then the first indication that it was not just loyalty came in the form of that coin he buys as gift for her , but never gives her ... which servant would buy a gift for their malkin, without her ordering for it n not give her but secure it with him? ... it was not loyalty ... more than attraction ... ... as raghu himself says afterwards when shivani asks him why does he feel the need to keep her happy , feel sad when she does , ...'I don't know...' ... he don't know why he bought a gift for her n didn't give it to her ... in fact he don't know his feelings ...

n then came the first instance when we saw his domineering side ... he piratically ordered n grabbed her hand in the middle of the road to go back with him to his house ... the dynamics of their relation started changing from there when he refused to listen to his mailkin for the first time...

n then the almost slap incident ... the servant forgot that its his mailkin on whom he was raising his hand ... the loyalty wavered infront of love for his mother ... he didn't budge a bit n didn't even acknowledge his responsibility n word to daaju that he will take care of her with his life, no matter what n silently stood when shivani left the house... it took his mother's reminder that he is just a servant n about his duty that he suddenly remembered that he is a mere servant n he has duties to fulfill ...

n then came the whole MU phase ... it was not just loyalty which made him bear every insult n still stay at haveli ... its his promise to his mother , coupled with loyalty n that 'i-don't-know' factor which made him stay there ...

if shivani hadn't confessed her love to him, i doubt if he had left the haveli like that ... he may have given her the property back n may be divorce too but not in that rushed way ... n we saw he was shocked ... it was 'sin' for him to think of 'babiji' like that ... he was a 'servant' ... he 'can't' love his 'maliksa's grand daughter'... he don't think he is 'laayak' of her ... he 'can't' give her all the 'luxuries' in life ... these were his words from time to time ... never , ever did he say to her in face that he 'doesn't love' her ... never ... even yesterday he refused to say it... n he had no answer n just turned his back on her when she asked him to look in her eyes n tell that he doesn't love her ... if he has no feelings other than loyalty for her , he would have accepted her challenge n put an end to everything ... but he didn't ... bec he couldn't ...

raghu thinks that shivani can only be happy with a rich guy ... who could give her love plus 'comforts n richness' ... n that's why he is looking for a good, but 'rich' guy ...

he loves her ... in a pure way ... in wanting to see her happy ... live happy ...every moment ... his prejudiced mind is not letting him accept the fact ...that it could be love ... one of his major concern is that there is a difference between sky n earth ... he knows it n that's why his mind is preventing him from enjoying the horizon ...he wants her to be happy ... n his prejudiced mind is asking him questions as to whether he could give her all the luxury n comforts she enjoyed ? ... this plus the 'sin' factor is preventing him from realising the 'i-don't-know' feeling inside him... a loyal servant need not feel like his life is slipping away when his malkin is in danger ... he may feel that he is failing in his duty , but he would never feel his life slipping away ... which raghu felt ... his eyes told that he felt it when shivani asked it in the taxi ...

Originally posted by: awida

Great post Jyoti..and super comments.👍🏼

Thanks a lot for making my day. I thought it is another boring weekend. But not any more.😃

I am not good in English , so I can't explain my POV. But I'll try to put some notes. Hope you'll understand me:😳

hey no issues 🤗 .. I m not a pro too 😃

1) Shivani has to remain as Raghu's wife. She has to stay at his house. Out of site out of heart. So Shivani has to make it sure she never let Raghu alone. He is a straight person whom can easily be fooled by Sumi. So forcing him to accept Shivani as a wife is the only way Shivani can protect him, and make him feel how important she is in his life.

I agree that Shivani got to stay in his house only to protect him but forcing herself might actually take him further away because the more she forces , the more he will try to run away from reality .. instead I want Shivani to stop using this word "wife" for sometime and just find out ways to make him fall for her like any other beautiful woman .. like I said make him jealous by flirting with your best friend in front of his eyes , dress up beautiful but act all ignorant to get his attention , stop asking him for any help and let him start missing u and com to u asking if she needs him 😉😳😳

2) Raghu loves Shivani I have no doubt. Poiu and Dhanya explain it beautifully. Raghu took care of Shivani, pampered her, gifted her, cooked for her, accepted her insults, never blamed her for putting his life in a risk, sacrificed his own happiness for her, feels her pain Did many things which no servant or bodyguard can do for his master. If all Indian servants act that way , they have to be thrown out of their master's house , coz they are dangerous for the cute ladies.😆

See these things r not exactly love in a husband-wife relation bec pampering , gifting , cooking , accepting insults .. all these u do for your every loved ones from your sister to your mother .. so whats the diff ... the day I see Raghu desires for Shivani and wants to get physically intimate with her and has those kind of dreams , we can b sure its ishq wala love for him too 😳... for now he does feel that attraction for Shivani but a part of him is holding himself back from actually feeling the desire to own her and the day he frees that part of his self and starts desiring for her , we can actually celebrate 😆 .. he might even then remain in denial because obviously he wants her happiness first but he will secretly start getting her dreams and then we will b sure that he feels the husband wala love too for her 😳

3) How to make Raghu realize his own feeings. It may come with Karan's entry. Btw did you see his pic in Raghu's house in Fb thread? . This is my last hope. If Raghu still don't want to admit his love for Shivani even to us. She has to move on in her life and marry Karan.😈

Yes I saw the spoiler .. I guess Karan is just curious to meet Raghu's family and wife mayb 😉 .. I hope Shivani recoginses him as his childhood buddy and jumps to hug him right in front of Raghu ... then the real Raghu will come out 😈

Originally posted by: -Sheena-

I think it's attraction, liking and loyalty and respect that raghu feels for shivani... The passionate and desirable love is yet to be seen... He is loyal to the point where he will die for shivani, he has a liking and respect to the point where he will accept any insult and humiliation that shivani has thrown but never blamed and the attraction is there where he fears that if he gives in, he will lose his self control...

Exactly .. he has actually set his limits in his relation with Shivani and he goes exactly to that point and then stops ... the day he wipes off these limits and crosses the boundary of all his prejudices successfully will b the day we wont hv to debate or convince anyone whether he is in love or not because I feel he himself will admit he is in love though he might still hide it from Shivani initially 🤔

Had the MU never happened I got the feeling that both shivani and raghu were becoming friends like which could have blossomed into love, but with the MU the dynamics changed I feel slightly... before the MU he seemed more at ease but I think the constant reminders of being a servant left a scar somewhere and also the remark of not being layak as shivani's husband did leave an impact I feel... Deep down he must have felt he is not worthy for shivani...

yess I guess those worked like side effects too .. the constant reminder by evil trio that time and even Shivani that he is a naukar has definitely had its effect which is showing now ... plus he always had the extra baggage of his maliksa's promise too because somewhere Maliksa never clearly said to him that look after Shivani like a husband .. he just said take care of her and be her shadow .. but I wish maliksa used the husband word ... things would hv been more clear to Raghu then 🤔

I feel the more he is pushed to admit or accept this relationship the more he will fight to stop anything from happening. .. raghu can be stubborn... He feels that shivani is his responsibility but it does not help shivani when he considers her like a precious diamond who has to be looked after but can't touch... He does not see shivani as a woman and the times he does he shuts those emotions up thinking he is betraying maliksa...

In a way both r stubborn and bit of extremists 😆 .. during MU1 , Shivani went to extreme limits of hating Raghu and was quite stubborn with her decisions too and now we see same with Raghu where he goes to the extreme to convince Shivani that he dont love her which involves giving this matrimony ad and is quite stubborn with his decision too ... Guess thats what will make them a passionate couple in future 😆😳

Realisation has to come from within and that can only happen when he can free his mind and see shivani as any other woman and not just daaju ' s amanat. .. He has to feel the desire and that can happen if he feels jealous and may admit his heart beats for shivani till then he will keep denying himself...

I agree ... I actually want him to confess to his own self that why m I hving so and so thoughts for Shivani ... the day he has these questions in his mind , we wont hv to assume or debate on this issue because Raghu himself will hv his own self talk regarding how he is falling for his babyji ... he will still reamin in denial but will admit to his own self at least .. we got to wait for that moment 🤔

I don't think Raghu knows what love is as he really don't have any role models to emulate or look up to... love is an alien concept to him and what does with shivani can be considered love but not the physical attraction but more on a respect and loyalty level...

yeah .. none in his family is pro in love 😆 .. he is born and brought up in a family where duties and responsibility always takes priority than love or fairytales unlike Shivani whose lifestyle does involve dreamy love stories and fairtales .. so she has a fair idea of what a girl in love feels plus she did get her friend Meghna's help too whereas Raghu dont hv that friend who can guide him in his love journey either

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Basically the love Raghu feels is something he probably feels for his mother too ... u know that special someone for whom he can even give his life ...

What Raghu does not feel yet is the ishq wala love that a man feels for his woman where the man desires her physically too ...😳

Right now Raghu feels that attraction for Shivani here and there but he is yet to desire her physically as well because he just pulls him back the moment he feels he might loose control and then his bodyguard mode takes over ...

this journey from the attraction/like/respect wala love phase to ishq wala love is what Raghu got to make in coming days ... he is yet to reach to that ishq wala love phase I feel 😳

I agree about that movie rab ne bana di jodi ..When SRK's character realised that his wife does not really desire her as a husband , he decides to pull himself away because a husband-wife relation just cannot work on respect forever .. and so he gets a makeover and comes to her as a different person to make her fall for him ... he sheds his husband image and becomes that macho man and try to win her over ... Shivani needs to do something similar 😳

Originally posted by: poiu123

But I have a question ... Its natural for a man to have love for his mother and sister and is ready to do anything for their happiness.

But if a man has these kind of feelings for a woman who is NOT his mother or sister or cousin , then wat do we call it ?

I don't think he has any brotherly feelings for Shivani btw 😊 . He has a strange telepathic connection with her , whether its turning back to see her hand burning, being unable to concentrate on his work when she burns her foot at home or sensing something is wrong even when Sumitra tells him Babyji is fine at the back of the tempo with his family.

He did not have this connection with maliksa. This connection is Shivani special.