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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Avidfan

I wondered whether Sandhya is a clever, well rounded personality or just a bookish girl. That is some one who has mugged up well and scored well in exams. Is she a nerd who has achieved good marks but is so uncool. I mean we have all seen such species at college!


I wonder whether she is one of those annoying people we find in all colleges, trying to be teacher's pets, attending ALL lectures, making copious notes, spending all the time in the library and spending hours prepping.

She also strikes me as one of those people who join in on all the heavy committees about social work, joining "Lets clean Bombay" campaigns, who attend all the Independence Day and Republic Day parades and follow Gandhism.

I mean she does not strike me as some one who rides a scooter to College, or bunks classes to see films, let alone for a glass of beer or disco.

I bet she has not had a boyfriend in school or college. She also strikes me as those types who think romance and sex are sins!

I know she lives in Pushkar but I am sure most young college going girls in Pushkar/ Ajmer would be more rounded than Sandhya.

I mean at 20, almost every girl, rich or poor, can make a cup of tea. In this day and age, most girls have skills and talents beyond academic books.

Its not as if she is well read. I mean would you buy a Mills and Boon romance novel "Sharing Dreams" for what you think is an engineer/MBA or even your husband. Thank God Sooraj can't read English. Otherwise he would think she is bonkers.

And what I find disturbing is that the only time her eyes twinkle and face lights up is when she lectures people on their voting rights, anti corruption and dust bins. That to me is So Patronising.

Why oh why do they not twinkle and light up when Sooraj lightly brushes his hands against her or accidentaly touches her. And how could she not land a kiss on Sooraj's cheeks when she fell in his arms.

I am telling you guys our Snadhya is a nerd and needs to become cool very soon.

I am very interested in this phenomenon. The students who get good marks, loves books were suddenly called by nerds. In the last century, 15 years ago, people were proud that they learn well. Almost to all countries at the same time suddenly there is a fashion ' the word ' nerd. This is a dirty word. It's that - a world government (joke) is interested in universal moron? Only the elite will rule. Young people will drink more and more beer.

I do not what to hurt anybody. I am really very interesting in such phenomenon. I still can not determine the cause of this.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wow there have been some pretty strong reactions.

The meaning of nerd is some one who single mindedly pursues an academic or technical pursuit, is socially inept and ignores other things in life (You can look it up) . Therefore, on that basis Sandhya is a nerd. It is not an insult!

And it is exactly what some people have said in their responses!

Any word or expression can be an insult, depending upon the way you use it or say it. For example "Oh, so you think you are very clever!"

To be an IPS officer you do not need to be studious. You need to be intelligent, have a good aptitude, good reasoning abilities (We have seen the Sandhya has these abilities when applied to subjective situations like deducing the fire situation). You have to be physically fit (again we have seen this in the bull incident).

You need the ability to relate to people. This is where I think she lacks. She is very warm when relating to Chotu or others but is totally inept in other areas but specially Sooraj.

A well rounded person is one who has many skills and talents, is socially outgoing (and I do not mean beer drinking and disco dancing). We do not see that Sandhya has that.

She is very cold in her reactions to Sooraj. Love and warmth are a natural thing- these cannot be taught. We are not taught to hug someone or to encourage them with a smile. So far all we have been shown is that she had a psychotic fit when he tried to kiss her hand ( I agree that there is a good reason for that and the circumstances that day were such that any girl would have run for her life). But even now when she says that I accept you, she jumps around like a rabbit in a headlight or seems like she will burst into tears.

What was really needed to give Sooraj confidence was a small gesture from her, may be holding his hand or a small hug. Oh no, she still startles, does not even smile back and takes her hand away instantly. Her body language is "STAY AWAY! DO NOT TOUCH".

Everyone keeps saying she is only 19 and so... Come on, those are the years when we all think of prince charmings !

So I maintain that Sandhya needs to be cool!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Avidfan is right in these observations.

Sandhya's dream man might have been someone highly educated and stylish. And thus she may be cold to Suraj. She is not sexually attracted to him till now, it seems.

Besides teaching girls cooking skills, parents fight shy of telling them about birds and bees. All such topics are taboo in many homes even now. But children learn about these things thanks to media like films, TV, internet and friends.

But in course of time, it has to happen. Maybe when they are in late thirties or early forties.😉

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Its not just about the birds and bees. Its other things too. I think nowadays almost everyone (normal!) would know how to make tea and a simple meal by 19.

We all can go to college by ourselves, we do not need our parents to drop us.

Would a young educated girl buy a Mills and Boon novel for her husband? Just because it is English and "Shared Dreams", does not make it a good book. It was trashy.

That is what I meant by being well rounded. Lets start another post now.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Avidfan

Wow there have been some pretty strong reactions.


The meaning of nerd is some one who single mindedly pursues an academic or technical pursuit, is socially inept and ignores other things in life (You can look it up) . Therefore, on that basis Sandhya is a nerd. It is not an insult!
Call whatever, its fine...being studious at @ 19 is no crime and I respect her for that...but u have to agree that if she is a nerd then she is rather a BEUTIFUL, INTELLIGENt, very HUMAN nerd🤣

And it is exactly what some people have said in their responses!

Any word or expression can be an insult, depending upon the way you use it or say it. For example "Oh, so you think you are very clever!"

To be an IPS officer you do not need to be studious. You need to be intelligent, have a good aptitude, good reasoning abilities (We have seen the Sandhya has these abilities when applied to subjective situations like deducing the fire situation). You have to be physically fit (again we have seen this in the bull incident).
You need the ability to relate to people. This is where I think she lacks. She is very warm when relating to Chotu or others but is totally inept in other areas but specially Sooraj.
I have written on this in length on some another tread..Will write in short here...If you follow official reqmnt for IPS, educational and physuical reqmnts, Sandhya has it all...Pls dont put any other reqmnt by your own...its not that u pass IPS exam and on day 2 u r an IPS posted somewhere...They give a rigorous training for that...after that any1 who has basic eligibility criteria can perform well...She is honest, brave,intelligient and she will become a good IPS officer...

A well rounded person is one who has many skills and talents, is socially outgoing (and I do not mean beer drinking and disco dancing). We do not see that Sandhya has that.
Socially outgoing--> Why u think Sandhya is not outgoing? any specific example?
She is very cold in her reactions to Sooraj. Love and warmth are a natural thing- these cannot be taught. We are not taught to hug someone or to encourage them with a smile. So far all we have been shown is that she had a psychotic fit when he tried to kiss her hand ( I agree that there is a good reason for that and the circumstances that day were such that any girl would have run for her life). But even now when she says that I accept you, she jumps around like a rabbit in a headlight or seems like she will burst into tears.
psychotic fit : I agree, but it was much needed as u said, I respect her that she displayed that courage on that night and didnt allow him to touch...how many 19 years gals can do it in that situation?
Love is like a miracle it can happen in second or it might take days/months ...so pls do not be judgmental...she was not and now also not in best situation...she has loads of worries even of survival...dont expect too much...she will love him with her own pace...

What was really needed to give Sooraj confidence was a small gesture from her, may be holding his hand or a small hug. Oh no, she still startles, does not even smile back and takes her hand away instantly. Her body language is "STAY AWAY! DO NOT TOUCH".
I agree with you..but again be fair...she wanna go with her pace...let it be ..at least now days she is not feeling angry of his touches...this is also a progress😉...
Sooraj also knows this and he is also going slow anyways he himself is a shy character...so its natural for him ...
Everyone keeps saying she is only 19 and so... Come on, those are the years when we all think of prince charmings !
Heheheh..Sure...Her husband is so handsome and not running away anywhere...so she will soon start enjoying with his company...I really wish some gal should do some praising abt Sooraj in front of her..so that she can realize that she has to focus on that aspect of life also...lets see...

So I maintain that Sandhya needs to be cool!
Looking at her situation after her marriage for last 2-3 months, I will say it will be asking too much to be cool ...lets give her time to cool down a bit and come out of it from trauma...By the way, when my father passed away accidently, we could not come out of truma for years...she has lost her both parents...dont expect too much...Thanks god that she is talking walking and taking decisions wisely after such a trauma...

Edited by sooraj_sandhya - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Avidfan


Its not as if she is well read. I mean would you buy a Mills and Boon romance novel "Sharing Dreams" for what you think is an engineer/MBA or even your husband. Thank God Sooraj can't read English. Otherwise he would think she is bonkers.


This is cute one. 😆
a gift of romance from some one who abstains from it!
The archies stall was not around to find a gift card and complimenting with Amul's chocolate

when I watched that, I told myself, she is just focussing on the title like her creatives told her. I mean the Mittals never wanted us to analyse their characters. they just wanted us to see what they show us. Isn't that the ROE (Rule of Engagement) that any DABHian signs up when he starts watching it. There is no room for imagination in the show in order for us to analyze. It is plain open and shut case.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jess.


I'm not from India and i knew how to make chai by the age of 8 😆


I hated helping my mom in the kitchen and stubbornly maintained not going into the kitchen, but I knew all household chores in some degrees by my 10th year. And I was that so called book-worm at school who used to walk home reading books on the road, but rarely the course ones, only the fiction, mystery, gossips, cineworld. actual study/academics was always one-night batting for the tests next day. Certainly I never liked M&B. Felt them to be disgusting...my personal choice.

Me and my sister both were able to cook and manage the house whenever our mom used to be out of home for weeks. coz even if I did not like cooking, out of the corner of my eye, I did register what my mother was doing and my mother too indirectly saw to it that her daughters know the basics. when i was really old, I found the same thing about our father. That he had been seeing to it that we knew our basics. Parents talked about all that and we didn't even know or ever noticed it!

So it is not Sandhya who is at fault, it is her parents. This is yet another reason, why Sandhya's brother behaves the way he has. Too much skewing causes aberrations. He took it upon himself to what he thought as a failure of his parents. And this was pretty easy for the creatives to sell it to us, coz we can believe emotionally, if not rationally if we wanted to.

For clearing UPSC, one needs to be studious. Definitely we need to mug up a lot. In that case, I am with Sandhya as she was shown to be spending all her time in studying books and those which are not from her course, but needed for her preparing herself for General Studies and Mains subject paper for the UPSC exams. if one was choosing History as Mains, imagine how much you have to read !!

and I can pardon Sandhya presenting M&B because I would think she never paid attention to what it actually is. She simply didn't have the bandwidth to indulge herself in likes and dislikes of an ordinary girl.

What is definitely unbelievable is Sandhya accepting marriage, wanting to be a good daughter-in-law but refusing to be a good wife.
if She is still cringing from her husband's touch that she is giving jerky reactions or giving poker faces as these posts says, that means her belief in marriage as institution and what goes into that relationship is questionable. She is as good as walking out of marriage and we would still be supporting her.
I mean normal husbands after getting married will behave like the husband of One Thousand years of Solitude. I mean, girls I literally got shivers when reading books out of my habit, found that it is not all hunky dory to be wife and being married. It was a comic narration, if I was reading it now, but then..no :-) House-hold chores is fine, but there is your husband also..Can't jerk it off as some makhi :-))
That's why from this part, I believe, it is the Mittals concept and story and they leave no room for us to explore the relationship, question anything and would have to see what they show to me.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sridevi

Loved your post. I agree that this is not the kind of show where you can analyse too much.

Much as I joke and poke fun at it, I still maintain that it was a really nice story. Its just that the past month has been rubbish and the content is getting ludicrous.

I think Anas Rashid is an extremely good actor and makes it worth watching.



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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: shridevigaddam


I hated helping my mom in the kitchen and stubbornly maintained not going into the kitchen, but I knew all household chores in some degrees by my 10th year. And I was that so called book-worm at school who used to walk home reading books on the road, but rarely the course ones, only the fiction, mystery, gossips, cineworld. actual study/academics was always one-night batting for the tests next day. Certainly I never liked M&B. Felt them to be disgusting...my personal choice.

Me and my sister both were able to cook and manage the house whenever our mom used to be out of home for weeks. coz even if I did not like cooking, out of the corner of my eye, I did register what my mother was doing and my mother too indirectly saw to it that her daughters know the basics. when i was really old, I found the same thing about our father. That he had been seeing to it that we knew our basics. Parents talked about all that and we didn't even know or ever noticed it!

So it is not Sandhya who is at fault, it is her parents. This is yet another reason, why Sandhya's brother behaves the way he has. Too much skewing causes aberrations. He took it upon himself to what he thought as a failure of his parents. And this was pretty easy for the creatives to sell it to us, coz we can believe emotionally, if not rationally if we wanted to.

For clearing UPSC, one needs to be studious. Definitely we need to mug up a lot. In that case, I am with Sandhya as she was shown to be spending all her time in studying books and those which are not from her course, but needed for her preparing herself for General Studies and Mains subject paper for the UPSC exams. if one was choosing History as Mains, imagine how much you have to read !!



I can cook some non-indian foods, i can bake, and make chai/rice/roti/omelette's etc but i cannot make any daal or sabzi 😳 😆 Im adamant on not learning yet as i know i'll be stuck doing it all the time 😆

But it is really hard to take care of the house while being in school. I remember when my mom went to India, i had to do all the household chores and cook. I was swamped with school work and then i had to cook for my family as i was trying to finish important essay's at the same time My parents down push me to do much like cooking because they want me to focus on my studies only, which is the same case as Sandhya.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: siddhu12

I think Sandya is too young to feel her hubby touchings. she is just 19.

I understand generation has bcome very fast to know wat z going around us. But she is a studious and a university topper.Generally toppers do concentrate on books

but anyhow i hope she feel comfartable with him as time moves on when she loves him completly

I agree with this point of view and simply do not see more cool girl near Suraj.

Edited by tanind - 13 years ago

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