She's not Riddhima and He's not Armaan. - Page 8

wow...thats all i can say...fantastic post!

Originally posted by: CZ..

@shruti - I'm not passing any one sided judgement. I'm telling you how impulsive the youth can be; impulsive decisions may not always reflect intention. why can't I take the example of people dying for their partners? that's exactly what forms your so called 'base' here, right? so I'm telling you how many people have already died, been murdered, or committed suicide for love. everything is not 'true love'. and mind you, this is not a casual example. and yes, alot of people are 'willing', as you put it, to die for eachother.

lol. what makes you think limitations only refers to 'hesitation before sex'? 😆 limitations can imply alot of things - behavorial, emotional, mental, social, intellectual etc. not just physical 😆

you completely ignored my point. it's not just about 'petty fights' and 'misunderstanding', it's about the level of understanding being absolutely zero. 90% of AR story is based on duppattas flying, dream sequences, long staring sessions, mushy-mushy dialogues, song sequences and other crap like memory loss etc. where was the understanding? had the creatives not shows all of the above jazz and just one good discussion between them, then I'd have probably changed my stand.

as a viewer, what I understand from the AR story at the end of the day is this - armaan is an obsessive and crazy lover while ridhima is a resistant one. and that's how it has always been. sure, AR might die for each other, but if tomorrow, suppose shashank has to get a surgery done, will ridhima take that leap of faith and let armaan operate if he says, 'trust me ridhima' even if she wants to? I don't think so. there is simply no trust between them? you can might aswell call the 'willingness to die' an obsessive impulse.

well in that case I'd want SR to work towards their marriage. you didn't mention what 'BIG' thing you think should happen to re-unite AR? if ridhima is the typical bhartiya naari; then I guess AR will never happen, right?

good, if you want to leave it here. to each his own.

sorry to butt in but this soooo not true..AR lovestory has many instances that show the understanding,compatibity,sacrifice for each other,being each others strenghths in tough times..etc etc..and that is not 10% like u said..i can give you a few of those instances

Hell no, I didn't just read that. What the??? I am sorry for such incoherent blabbering, but seriously???

I don't take this show seriously at all, but since you wrote this post, this is what I have to say about it.

Their story never had the depth that you're referring to, I am sorry but no depth at all. A and R never had a decent conversation to begin with, whenever either of them opened their mouth it was to either blame each other or to compliment each other for their looks. I am sorry, but that is not what a relationship entails. And no way in hell is taking bullets for each other or making sacrifices be called true love, I am sorry but are you trying to imply that couples who don't make any sacrifices for each other are, in your words not eternal or their love not true.

Frankly speaking, I think their love was more based on their outside appearances than an emotional one. I am basing that assumption on the numerous nain matakka, their numerous fall routines et al. And most importantly on the episode I saw yesterday. The diary that he was reading out of, he had pictures of her lips, eyes and whatever else he had. His entries mainly consisted on how beautiful she looked et al, instead of remembering the moments they spent with each other, it was all about how pretty he found her. I am sorry, but for me that shows the depth of their love, and the foundation it was based upon, and it sure doesn't have much depth.

People do fall for someone based on their appearance first and then slowly but surely you start understanding the other individual and you fall for their personality including their flaws. But in their case, there was no depth, because frankly they never understood each other, or even try to. Their relationship never had the foundation of trust, and if one doesn't have that, then there is no hope for a long lasting relationship. He, somehow in yesterday's episode reminded me of Shahrukh's character from Darr; an obsessive lover.

You don't need to reply to me! This is just what I had to say, to each their own!

Facial Structure....check
dna structure......check
blood group........check

congratulations!! this post have been proved 110% wrong because armaan is actually armaan and shilpa is the original riddhima!

just because a group of fans are mad in rage doesn't means they can rob a personal identity of a person............u are not in CIA or something.....

and all about vows and boo of love and honesty...........people just get this line "No one gives a damn about it all"


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very well said - nice analogy.

Somehow, I coulda seen Ross and Rachel not get back together, but not these two ... can't see them apart, and mostly, can't see them hurting like this - rather, can't see R hurting A like this.

Part of me wants him to move on to S coz he deserves better - and I'm not saying this coz of R chosing Sid, but coz R never trusted A, from back in the SA days, through Suku days, to Jenny days.

BUT - a big part of me, who watches reruns, wants THAT love story to end happily, and hence wants AR ... :(

@basuvaishali - sure! they did alot of jazz. but WHEN did they sit down and just talk? NEVER. trust me, they wouldn't have to do all that if they'd had just one good conversation to prove that they understand each other :P

Originally posted by: CZ..

@basuvaishali - sure! they did alot of jazz. but WHEN did they sit down and just talk? NEVER. trust me, they wouldn't have to do all that if they'd had just one good conversation to prove that they understand each other :P

oh you mean, in three years all they did was jazz, no talk? nothing that could prove to people like you that they understood each other?😲

Originally posted by: CZ..

@shruti - I'm not passing any one sided judgement. I'm telling you how impulsive the youth can be; impulsive decisions may not always reflect intention. why can't I take the example of people dying for their partners? that's exactly what forms your so called 'base' here, right? so I'm telling you how many people have already died, been murdered, or committed suicide for love. everything is not 'true love'. and mind you, this is not a casual example.and yes, alot of people are 'willing', as you put it, to die for eachother.

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lol. what makes you think limitations only refers to 'hesitation before sex'?😆limitations can imply alot of things - behavorial, emotional, mental, social, intellectual etc. not just physical 😆

you completely ignored my point. it's not just about 'petty fights' and 'misunderstanding', it's about the level of understanding being absolutely zero. 90% of AR story is based on duppattas flying, dream sequences, long staring sessions, mushy-mushy dialogues, song sequences and other crap like memory loss etc. where was the understanding? had the creatives not shows all of the above jazz and just one good discussion between them, then I'd have probably changed my stand.

as a viewer, what I understand from the AR story at the end of the day is this - armaan is an obsessive and crazy lover while ridhima is a resistant one. and that's how it has always been. sure, AR might die for each other, but if tomorrow, suppose shashank has to get a surgery done, will ridhima take that leap of faith and let armaan operate if he says, 'trust me ridhima'even if she wants to? I don't think so. there is simply no trust between them? you can might aswell call the 'willingness to die' an obsessive impulse.

well in that case I'd want SR to work towards their marriage. you didn't mention what 'BIG' thing you think should happen to re-unite AR? if ridhima is the typical bhartiya naari; then I guess AR will never happen, right?

good, if you want to leave it here. to each his own.

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May I ask the premise of your argument? Not to start a fight - coz I now find myself not taking any particular side - AR/SR/ArSh/etc. Depending on the time of the day and the acting exhibited in a particular episode, I may sway -but taht's for the actors to do for me.

Anyhow - you put forth quite a few interesting points - I'm just interested in finding out that where you dismiss the notion of giving away one's life for another as a 'maybe' act of love (and I understand your argument), is that ... theory ... being brought up to backup the argument that Ridzi's taking a bullet for A indeed does NOT prove her love for him? Or were you making a generic comment?

If a generic comment, that would be a different discussion, and also not to the point the TM was making. If used in AR's case, I'll say this - albeit self centered from day one, and failing to trust Armaan fully in many a cases (she's got trust issues with everyone though), she's proved time and time again that she did indeed, IN HER OWN WAY, love Armaan. I say 'in her own way' because I don't think she loved him more than he loved her ... she proved that too.

But, yes, taking the bullet alone can't be used for that. I could point out many things, but I just wanted to know what your intention was in bringing up that point was? Again, if a generic stmt, correct as it may, or may not, be, it wouldn't be applicable here then, right? And if specific to this case, then if you watch the KaSh, KaSu, and then KaJen days, you'll see that R did indeed love A. She also says many atimes that she can't live w/o him, but if I were to give you one scene only, the one that comes forth at this time is the day of the shooting - Not the one taking the bullet but the one below:

She walks out of there unharmed, and sees her dad.
Then she comes to safety, and when her dad almost has her safe and sound, she turns back.
She says - papa, I can't come to you, coz my life is in there, and I won't come w/o him.

So - to me, that's love. Not numbers, not bullets, not confessions, simple actions that speak louder than words.

Like I said, I can list many more - like Suku's crying that she can't live with him, but can't live w/o him either, or SA's being there for him even though he didn't want her there when Mini's case became critical (although taht was the beginning phase, so I can see you scratching that), or Jen's above case, etc. There are many more, I dont' think anyone can doubt her love for him, or vice versa.

But if your reason for comparison was her current love for Sid - It's totally possible to love unconditionally, irrevocably, with all your heart and might, and then get over it and then do it again. It takes time, but it's possible. They're two different kinds of love, but they can very well be equal, given time.

I dont' understand why some SRians think her love for A was not real, or why some ARians think her love for Sid isn't real.

It's simple - she loved A to death, but she had a year and a painful incident which caused her to get over it. She hasn't taken him out of her heart completely, hence some moments of softness, but she's moved on. She's not totally there (in terms of love) with Sid, but she's definitely developed a whole lot more than affection for him. Given time, their love (if the CVs take that route) will be VERY DIFFERENT from the AR love, but equally intense.

ARians and SRians need to accept each other, and R's love for A, R's love for S, and A and Sid's friendship. Oh, and they need to learn to coexist w/o insulting each other.

No offense to you CZ - didn't mean to make this a long sermon, sorry :)

loved youre post shrutii
ive said this manier time but id ;ike to say it again,
"pyaar toh bohat baar hota hain leking nohabbat sirf ek hi baar hoti hain"
the craziness and the pagalpan AR had for each other only comes once in a life time, they will probably learn love somebody else again but the craziness they had for each other cannot be returned nor can be developed for any other person. i dont think its possible, to show youre craziness for more than one person in life. ofc, they can show love like they are or they will, but i dont think we will ever have ARs craziness for their current respective partners.


ArmaanRiddhima <3
i tend to take their names in one breath. search for riddhima when they show armaan and search for armaan when they show riddhima


P.S. Ross Rachel, hope AR get their ending like these two did!