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With the weekend approaching, I've finally managed to catch up to the episodes I missed and I wanted to give my POV. I'll try to make it brief but it might be somewhat long :PI was browsing through the forum today and I was pretty surprised to read how everyone was calling Happy a "dumbo"But then again, I believe when you watch a couple episodes at a time as compared to one per day, there is more continuity and you tend to notice things. I disagree with most of the comments talking about happy and her lack of intelligence. Hear me out here: In these three years, happy had managed to wrap a band aid around her wound. The wound she received the day she gave her testimony against rocky. That wound never healed. Happy merely left it. Covered it up under the band aid and there it festered until the day she came face to face with shaan. She was then forced to rip out the band aid and oh the pain. The agony. In these three years, happy has not been living. She merely functions. She does what is expected of her. Her fire is gone. She has become this demure, reserved, business woman. Her emotions are controlled. She has pushed everything into a tiny recess in the back of her mind which has steadily grown until it is no longer a small recess rather a room. A room with a door she has kept locked. Anything that she cannot understand, anything that requires her to re visit the past, anything that requires her to analyze emotions, goes behind that door. Until rocky came back. The door is now open and try as she might, she cannot to shove everything back in.She is in incredible emotional turmoil because now she has to face everything she has been averting her eyes from.

1) Rocky and his innocence. Happy is not dumb for not believing in him. Put yourself in her shoes. The man kidnapped her, tortured her. There was an episode where Ranveer first tried to harass smiley. Rocky intervened and told happy off for talking to guys like ranveer. He said that she should let him handle it to which she responds in anger with this 'kyuunkai woh tumharee tarham sochta hai'. Happy later apologizes to rocky and says that sometimes she can't helped but remember the way he tortured her and then she lashes out. This is a sensible woman. She knows she can't forget and she doesn't try to hide the fact from rocky. But other than that this was also a premonition. Because happy could not forget. And her inability to truly forget reared its head during holi and later in court. Any woman in happy's place would jump to the conclusion she did. At least happy tried to give rocky the benefit of doubt. But this was her sister. Her sister who was screaming one name at her again and again. And a dark, wretched part of happy whispered to her 'what if this friendship was a lie, a ruse'?

2) Not seeing RV's love for her. I rewatched the scene after reading the comments here and I am absolutely sure about my analysis on this. Happy had not time for emotional conflict. She was living on autopilot and then shaan comes. Suddenly she had to face everything she had buried deep within her. The woman is a emotional wreck after having kept so much bottled up. There was going to be a point where her fragile castle of glass would shatter around her. When rocky re-entered her life, three years worth of angst, anger, tears came pouring out. Does crying make her weak? It does not. She has a lot to deal with. Not only the loss of a friend, but also because there's a part within her, in her heart that knows she sent an innocent man to jail. In all this do you think she has time to analyze RV's emotions? That why is he helping her? Is it necessary for someone helping you to have some ulterior motive? Why would happy, who is living life on auto pilot consider what rv is feeling? We know what he's feeling because unlike happy, we are privy to his inner monologue, his inner conflict. Happy is not. She has a lot on her mind with no place for RV and his emotions especially since she believes herself to be safe. With rocky she was scared of falling for him. With rv she believes him to be taken so it's safe for her to be friends with him. Especially since she saw how in love he and anaya were in the party she organized. She doesn't know he rarely talks to anaya. She sees childhood friends turned lovers and she thinks nothing could come between them, its safe to be friends with this guy, not confused emotions. Then the almost kiss. Happy probably believed that their emotions were heightened. And given the huge shock she received, did she really have time to go over what that little moment was about? No. She did not have that kind of luxury because shaan was taking away her hotel. Her dream project. And so that moment too was pushed behind the barely there door. To be dealt with later. Only there's no later as she's dealt with one blow after the other. She barely standing as it is, trying to shield herself from what's eating her from inside and the accusatory eyes that devour her everyday she sees shaan/rocky. In such a mess, how and when could she have sat down and thought about RV and what he is feeling. Especially since she has emotionally closed herself off after what happened three years ago. Her sister hates her. The man she began to open her heart to was convicted with her help. And now he's back, blatantly parading before her under another name. Her hotel has been taken from her Everything she had been building, gone. No. Rv is in the safe box of 'taken' men. RV is her security blanket. No need to fear messy emotions. But the moment where he almost kissed her did leave an impact which I will come to later. We come to the moment after rv and rocky fought. Happy's expression was deliberately blank because she felt nothing. Because she was pre occupied with rocky. Because she was angry. There's a reason why immediately after tending to rv (briefly might I add), the next scene finds her outside rocky's room, demanding to be let in. This contrast is deliberately done by the makers. And then comes anaya. She has returned. Happy feels a brief moment of unease because of the moment she and rv almost shared. His words and that moment are still there in back of her mind. But then she's relieved. Anaya is back and everything will be fine because rv will be with her and happy won't have to deal with extra emotions coming her way. Hence her almost panicked urging during the proposal scene. The way she immediately says that why should anaya wait. Because she could feel a doubt creeping up on her. She shakes her head almost pleadingly when rv looks her way. Telling him not to do this to their friendship. To go to anaya. She suspects something hence the subtle shake of the head. When rv confesses his love for happy, happy's shock is because she never thought he would do this to anaya, to her, to their friendship. She's shocked because she was sure that with anaya coming back, any attraction RV might have felt would have come to an end. She believed it was mere passing fancy and hence she was relieved with anaya's return, hence she kept urging RV to say yes. Because in her mind RV saying yes to anaya would save her friendship and she would have one less worry in her life but no.

3) Happy is not dumb for not realizing that shaan is clearly rocky. She knows he is rocky. She wants him to say it. To come clean. Because she feels hurt by the fact that he won't tell her. She wants him to be the one to tell her who he is. That is why she keeps pushing him to say it. Not because there's any doubt in her mind but because she wants him to trust her with this. To trust her as he did once before. There is a stark contrast between the happy that is with rocky and the happy that is with rv. With rocky we see glimpses of the old happy. The happy that was self dependant and the happy that took things head on. With rv we see a dependent happy. This was apparent where rv asks her why she is dealing with things when he's there. But she refuses, saying she will make her stand. That is the happy that was with rocky. Don't get me wrong, with rv happy is a successful business woman. But she's not 'Happy' in anyway. With rocky she is a storm. And in a good way. With rv, she is a clear sky, a calm ocean. Nothing that pushes her past her comfort zone. Which isn't a bad thing but this is happy. And this version of her with Rv is not the true her.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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And also its not such a rare thing for one party to remain oblivious to another party's affections. We've seen it in movies, read it in books. Sometimes a person is simply not on the same wavelength as the other person and so their affection simply does not make a dent. That does not necessarily make you dumb. And sometimes a person simply puts up defences against emotions like love and deliberately close their eyes to it because they dont want that emotion in their lives at that stage

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@Jareth

I swear, I have to agree with everything you said and explained. Where you don’t feel love, you just don’t feel it. No one can force or create a feeling when it doesn’t exist.

She is not oblivious but she doesn’t want to be bothered by anymore complications that is already there in her mind. RV was an investor in the hotel, so support was natural. Friendship doesn’t necessarily mean, you have to respect and reciprocate romantic feelings. I have nothing to add more Jareyh. What a crystal clear post!

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Excellent points.

Agreed to the points you stated that Happy has reserved herself ever since she placed her verdict to sent Rocky to jail. Have discoursed this among other groups and someone has mentioned so perfectly that despite of achieving everything in her life as a business woman, she still lacked the support, the inner strength she used to have. She couldn’t conquer the guilt of going against Rocky. She minimized herself to only her business, because she thought it was only her who can hold the responsibility of Rocky’s family, but never really had the luck to attain the happiness she once had. She has shut the doors of her heart and raised the walls of misery when she profoundly spoke how in the last three years, there wasn’t a single night she didn’t think of Rocky. Ofcourse, we knew Happy would probably be the only one and the first one who would make affirmation regarding Shaan being Rocky, but then when you talk about many people stating that she is dumb and can’t make sense, it’s only because people comparing her with her initial self. People were irked to find her constantly shouting at Rocky, misbehaving with him and accusing him for the crime and never giving him benefit of doubt like she did to RV. We know that Roha’s relationship wasn’t sturdy to begin with. Also, keeping in mind that Happy was the only one till the end who was demented in worry for speaking against Rocky. It was only after Smiley accused her for chasing away her dreams and for being a selfish sister. Only then, Happy decided to give her support to her traumatized sister, which is fair. But then, when Rocky was pleading his heart out to hear him for once, Happy refused to. I think this is why people can’t connect to her character.


However, the valid points you put out are good and I had the same thoughts before the leap took place. Happy isn’t the same Happy she used to be, but then Rocky will assemble her back and that’s all I say. :)

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In fact, in my thread, I have been saying the same things. Happy is not feeling RVs intensity because she doesn’t want to and need to.

Being obliged to someone doesn’t necessarily mean to understand and empathise with other person’s emotions. She didn’t feel for Chintu romantically because she didn’t have it in her. Only Rocky evokes that emotion in her.

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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

@Jareth

I swear, I have to agree with everything you said and explained. Where you don’t feel love, you just don’t feel it. No one can force or create a feeling when it doesn’t exist.

She is not oblivious but she doesn’t want to be bothered by anymore complications that is already there in her mind. RV was an investor in the hotel, so support was natural. Friendship doesn’t necessarily mean, you have to respect and reciprocate romantic feelings. I have nothing to add more Jareyh. What a crystal clear post!

And who can give law to lovers? ;)

I agree with both of you regarding the feelings people expect from Happy to reciprocate. And I will repeat!

The haq which Roha shared, neither it was granted to Chinto nor it will be RV’s. :)

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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

@Jareth

I swear, I have to agree with everything you said and explained. Where you don’t feel love, you just don’t feel it. No one can force or create a feeling when it doesn’t exist.

She is not oblivious but she doesn’t want to be bothered by anymore complications that is already there in her mind. RV was an investor in the hotel, so support was natural. Friendship doesn’t necessarily mean, you have to respect and reciprocate romantic feelings. I have nothing to add more Jareyh. What a crystal clear post!

Thing is, I also disagree with the whole two men in love with happy being her fault somehow. She's not doing anything to pull them towards her. I see a woman working hard for her dream project. If people fall in love with her, is it truly her that we must blame? I am sorry but I truly don't agree with the things saniya was saying because it was misognystic. Those men possess a brain. If they fall in love with a woman, how is that her fault? As far as I can see, she's not doing anything that would suggest deliberately using them and forcing them to love her. They love her for what she is.Also, there was something about the way RV said "meri taraf dekho gii bhi nahee, itna burra hoon mein?" that made me melt a little. Rohit is a really good actor. I felt the emotions behind that line.And I absolutely loved rocky shayari in yesterday's episode. The entire scene was perfection!
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Originally posted by: Manoshono

And who can give law to lovers? ;)I agree with both of you regarding the feelings people expect from Happy to reciprocate. And I will repeat!The haq which Roha shared, neither it was granted to Chinto nor it will be RV’s. :)

Hahaha 🤣 I agree who can give law to lovers. 😇
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Originally posted by: Jareth

Thing is, I also disagree with the whole two men in love with happy being her fault somehow. She's not doing anything to pull them towards her. I see a woman working hard for her dream project. If people fall in love with her, is it truly her that we must blame? I am sorry but I truly don't agree with the things saniya was saying because it was misognystic. Those men possess a brain. If they fall in love with a woman, how is that her fault? As far as I can see, she's not doing anything that would suggest deliberately using them and forcing them to love her. They love her for what she is.Also, there was something about the way RV said "meri taraf dekho bhi nahee, itna burra hoon?" that made me melt a little. Rohit is a really good actor. I felt the emotions behind that line.And I absolutely loved rocky shayari in yesterday's episode. The entire scene was perfection!

Well, I completely agree again. It’s not her fault and yes, the complete misogynistic comments made me cringe. What Rocky said to Saniya was so true! What kind of a woman is she really?These are the same people who blame the women’s clothes and say she called for it when they are sexually abused or assaulted.
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Originally posted by: Manoshono

And who can give law to lovers? ;)

I agree with both of you regarding the feelings people expect from Happy to reciprocate. And I will repeat!

Maybe you are right, but I believe the TM strongly believes that happy is not dumbo when it comes to react in different situations and how to reciprocate!!! be it RV or Rocky.Her reactions aren't even crystal clear signal when it comes to rocky too, let's forget for sometime that RV doesn't even exist, didn't she told rocky in holi before leap that nothing can happen between them, so I believe that she doesn't grant any haq to rocky either though she was concerned for him when she came back to her senses but then rocky wasn't ready to talk to her.


@TM: Hello, this is the first time I am in your thread I am A:)

and it was all very nicely put!!!from the writing POV ofcourse because there's only person in the world that can change my opinion about happy and that's "happy herself" ,and about the end when you say with RV it's not the true version of happy, throughout your post and even the title of your post defends happy from those who called her dumb and what not, because you think it's just her way of dealing with different emotions, if with RV she's a calm ocean then why can't you consider it also a way of her, a silent way of her dealing with her emotions and herself when she's with RV??, I believe that's the whole point of your analysis, and that's what happy do or say and doesn't do or when she remain silent because she does what she think is right and she has her reasons, and even if she's not her true self with RV, even then she's happy still, in the light of the facts you have written in order to defend her.

The question I asked above just crossed my mind after reading your analysis.It's ok if you don't wanna explain.


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