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Posted: 13 years ago
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The episode was much better than expected.
When I saw the promo in which Sia was stabbed, I was reminded of Satine's death scene in Moulin Rouge where she perishes in Christian's arms. Fantastic movie. I found HC and SJ performances in the promo full of the same raw emotions, the same raw grief as in the death scene of Satine. For those of you who have never seen it:
I hope that the actual sequence in tomorrow's episode lives up to the promo -- and I don't mean performance wise, because HC/SJ will nail it. I mean, script execution and camera angle/focus wise. They better fully capture Raghav's reaction and Sia's pain.
>> Cons:
1) The cops remain passive
I wanted to smack them each on the head when Raghav went inside, and they didn't even care to follow him. Like, seriously. Once again; the police force should've been kept out of this whole hostage situation. Naam badnaam kar diya cops ka.
>> Technical:
1) Camera angles in Raghav's scenes
The director needs to work on the camera angles when capturing Raghav. The focus has to be sharper, the angles have to be intense and capture the actual strength of Raghav's character. We need to know Raghav through his body language and the camera's lens. I don't know if the director shoots with one camera or two. But when Raghav is in a scene, the focus is lacking, the intensity of the camera angles is lacking.
Plus the lacking focus results in Raghav's expressive gestures being missed. I.e. in Sia's court divorce scene, there was a long shot, at one point, in which you could just catch the glimpse of Raghav dropping his head in his hand, but the camera missed the close-up. A simple gesture like the one he made expressed a lot of desperation and frustration which would've added to his character connecting further with the viewers.
When dealing with a hero -- especially -- the focus has to be sharp, the camera angle has to be optimum. Intense. Capture the strength of the hero.
Couple of examples of great camera focus and angles that captured the power of a hero:
Note how the intensity is prevalent, predominating. You sense power and purity. Note that the gleam/intensity in the male protagonist's eyes is captured, his every facial muscle that is at work, the gesture of his hands [body language], and his strength is captured because of the angle of the shot and the panning.
The director of SB? is creative enough to think of his own intense camera angles. I would really suggest that HC's scenes [which are incredibly important because he portrays, and represents, the force of good and because his strength is the one that should inspire the younger generation of men] are discussed between the crew of camera men/director and worked on in the future.
It would really be appreciated.
2) Camera angles in Sia's scenes
Same as with Raghav's. Needs more focus and better/intense camera angles.
3) Raghav/Sia dialogues need more work
I don't know what's missing. Wait. I think it's substance/depth. Something powerful. I don't know why I tend to feel like their dialogues are restrained. I suggest that the dialogues, in the future, are worked on and strenghtened -- they need to stand out, too. The actors are so brilliant. Just give them a bit of a challenge. They will deliver it flawlessly.
4) The shot of V choking
Disappointed me. I would've preferred that he wasn't standing up during the choking. How about him still lying on the bed, Raghav straddling his back, pulled his head backward as he choked him. That way, the body double being used instead of KVB wouldn't have been so obvious because the shot would've been taken from the back of V's head, showing his neck bending due to the backward pull.
It would've been more intense as well. In addition to that, close-up of the cord around his neck was a bad move on the director's part since it showed how loose the cord was. The entire scene lost its impact due to this. Long shot and on the bed would've worked better, in my opinion.
But I'm not a director. This is all just how I felt about the scenes and how I would've liked to see them unfold.
5) Some dialogues for V did not fit his character
Such as when he said the part about Sia "crying on Raghav shoulder" and slowly entering his heart and "love is like that". Didn't we just establish that V knows nothing about love?
Stick to that, please.
6) Please stop rushing and take your time with Raghav/Sia scenes
Please.
>> Pros
1) Sia's calm/composed attitude and character consistency
Note how composed she was, unafraid of voicing her thoughts/emotions out loud. This is the Sia that I have come to love now. She's consistently strong -- and the very few times that she wavers in her strength isn't inconsistency but human. Because even though she is strong, it doesn't mean that she isn't afraid of what will happen to her. Naturally.
Like Aristotle once said; fear is pain rising from the anticipation of evil.
Looking at Sia's character growth in the past month and a half, I can praise the writers for keeping her consistent [whereas some months back, the writers seemed confused about her character]. Plus she's been given more screenspace which is appreciated.
2) Raghav reacts subconsciously when Sia is slapped
Fantastic symbolism. Note how Raghav's hand jerked the exact second V's hand slapped Sia. The symbolism was absolutely beautiful -- Raghav's subconscious reacted to the fact that Sia was in pain and needed him. It was like they were both connected. It was exactly like a cord stretching between their hearts, forging that connection.
Her pain slammed into him and woke him up.
I loved how they showed him restless; hand jerking, head turning, frowning, etc. Fantastic concept executed by the writers and flawlessly performed by the actor.
3) Sia backhands V
Omigod. I screamed in delight. First, I was shocked that she stopped him from smacking her across the face. Then when he pushed her hand aside and actually did smack her, I thought she'd never retaliate, that she'd let him beat her without even a retort.
She surprised me. She shocked me. I love her for it.
She slapped him right back, but what I loved the most about her slap was that it was not a normal slap [as in palm against cheek] -- she backhanded him. Somehow I thought that it was much more humiliating and awesome. Sriti was outstanding in this shot. She looked wild, prepared to pounce on him, rip him to shreds.
4) Sriti's performance post fall down the stairs
Note how she sucked in a sharp breath just as V brought his sword down to stab her right in the chest. That was all Sriti. Fantastic detail, so damn convincing.
I also loved her expression when she stared up at Raghav. There was relief and pride. In her expression, you saw the complete faith that she had in him -- that he'd come for her. Even as she'd prepared herself for the final blow.
5) Raghav's expression when he stops V from stabbing Sia
Everyone run and hide. Raghav's eyes spelled murder. Whatever mercy he had shown V, whatever pity that he'd had toward him -- it all died. Finally. V doesn't deserve mercy after everything that he's done. To even consider it has been a major flaw on the show. But at least they corrected some of it tonight.
Like Sia mentioned that when you've done a hundred wrong, then even God doesn't show mercy and forgive -- Raghav and Sia are human. I liked that they made Sia say the line in relation to God and forgiveness. Fantastic point. Now I just hope that the writers stick to it. They have a habit of going back on their word.
6) V is beaten to a bloody pulp
I loved watching him get beaten up. I loved how -- for five minutes -- they made him small and dethroned him. I'm sure they'll be back to glorifying him in the future. But just the five minutes of pure justice that we got tonight made me feel better.
This was nothing though. V deserves a life sentence for what he's done, and some would even argue that he deserves to be executed. Considering the one-year leap news and all, I guess we'll get to see him out and about soon enough without much of a punishment as even the law is being bent to accomodate V.
Plus they can't seem to continue the story without him.
7) Raghav/Sia unite
Fantastic performances in this scene. I wasn't all too fond of the execution of the scene as it seemed hurried and out of focus -- all over the place. But the performances were just so soul-touching and beautiful. You could literally feel their concern for each other, their love, their longing, their happiness when they finally hugged.
Note how Raghav brushed his thumb under her eye -- beautiful detail, added depth to the whole shot. Sia's hand on his cheek was another wonderful detail. Best part was the hug. One thing I love about their hugs is how Raghav always cradled the back of her head and buries his fingers in her hair, breathes her in, and how Sia always wraps both arms tightly around him, standing on her toes to reach him.
It's all very sweet and convincing and a trademark for Raghav/Sia hugs now.
8) Raghav got medical attention in an ambulance
Nice detail. I would've screamed in protest if they'd done the surgery on the couch.
>> Technical:
1) Sia was captured in a way that made V look small in comparison
Thank you, director saab. It was nice to see Sia overshadow V rather than the other way around. Now if only we could keep this up in the future as well...
2) The shot of Raghav's first hand-jerk when Sia is slapped
Fantastic camera angle/shot.
3) Directing and camera angles were better tonight than they have been recently
Better, but not brilliant.
For those who haven't read the post that I made on Gowani's online article [regarding how the channel/CVs have been promoting the abuser rather than the victim] the link is below.
That's all from me tonight, ya'll. Have a good night. Bye.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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This episode was beautiful today! the thing that i was most glad to see was that FINALLY Raghav and Sia confessed their love to each other. Not to someone else, not to their thoughts, to EACH OTHER. And now everything is out in the open so there isn't any awkwardness or weirdness just pure and awesome Raghavi love. I never wanted that scene to end. And the minute they found each other, the way the kept obsessing over how hurt the other person was, just made me smile so much. Love the two of them! <3
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ana I agree with you totally. 😊👍🏼

The camera angle and the lacking of intensity in the shot of Raghav...have been bothered me a lot too and for some time.

First of all love the Dutta shot...and the next one where he drink the water...

Anyway hats of for Harshad 👏for managing to show strength and personality in his character, when he does not have the right support from...well...everything else.

It is really sad, because all the actors give so much intensity and personality to their characters but the camera misses it. The focus is too much on catching every V's reaction, eye brow lift and angels that the other actor's reaction to an actor's dialogs are not captured.

The court scene you uploaded, is an perfect example, how they missises other actors reaction.

The Dutta shot is a brilliant example. When you see the scene you just feel Dutta's power and his strength. The scene has such a great impact, because of MR performance, but also because of the perfect way the scene was shot.

I love many characters on the show, mainly because of their great performance. But the scenes would be more powerful if it was not rushed. You do not get the chance to get in to the moment, before you are pulled out.

I think the CV did a great job...last few months...with Sia's character. But now it is time for developing and giving Raghav's character more depth and layers.

Let him play out the scene...fully. I personality feel that Harshad has grown a lot as an actor and he got so much more to show. The glimpse in his eyes and the way he connect with other actors...is brilliant. 👏

I many time feel that the show is holding him back...a lot.

I am not a Harshad fan...I am a MR fan...but still when I watch Harshad performing and giving his all in a scene and the dialogs and camera shot is not doing justice to his performance and talent...I wonder...why he still want to be on the show. 😕

Please do not hate me for saying this...just my opinion. 😊

Edited by Ani_98 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I have learn about camera angles but I never gave importance to editing and camera angles because If I do then I would not be able to tolerate any indian tv show!

Khair The episode was mindblowing if we put the camera angles and mainly editing aside.

Today for me Its surely SJ who stole the show. No one can play jhanvi/sia role better than Sriti. this girl is outstanding. cant find enough words to praise her. shes the best. love how Sia slap V. these are the slaps which I really call slaps. I love sia character development and her hatred towards viraj and the love towards raghav. awesome scene loved it.

And now cming to my most most fav scene which is raghaVI confession. just too tooo good. An epic scene. HarshSri are an epic couple and a couple in millions. This is my most most most most fav raghaVI scene till date. Loved how they hold their each other faces haaaye their lips were so close and then loved how they hug each other and kuch bol na tune. beautiful scene loved it.

V stab sia. I loved SJ expressions here and how raghav said I wont let you leave. loved loved HC SJ here.

No comments about cops. they are useless


Beautiful episode loved it.

Edited by Saraella - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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yaa, the episode was better, but.. there are still some kamiyaan here and there..🤔 but neva mind..

I hope that the actual sequence in tomorrow's episode lives up to the promo
i dont want to sound like a panoti.. but i fear that the scene u r describing will be rushed and v being taken to jail will be in focus as usual.. as always

1) Camera angles in Raghav's scenes
but the focus is always on v... how can u expect the director to create more intensity on raghav's scenes.. the paticular court room scene u have thrown light on... what i feel is the director wanted to focus on sia standing and protesting.. thats why raghav was given a miss.. sia wanted a divorce from viraj, not raghav.. the desperation of raghav putting his head in his hands coincided with sia standing up.. if the director had asked them to enact the scene with some pauses in between, then the reaction of both cud have been captured beautifully, but since this was a horribly rushed scene, the action was happening somewhere, the dialogues were being said somewhere , the emotions were being portrayed elsewhere.. and thus the camera had to juggle between this entire scene.. hoping to capture the best of evrything.. and in between v was eating food.. 🥱 which irritated me to no extent

4) The shot of V choking
even, i noticed that there was a body double at work here.. 😆 kvb wud have taken extra precaution to protect his nose 😉

1) Sia's calm/composed attitude and character consistency
the way she stood up to v was commendable, even with a knife in his hand, v cudnt even put a trace of fear into sia.. whereas jahnvi trembled even when v spoke.. so 👏 ⭐️

2) Raghav reacts subconsciously when Sia is slapped
awesome, fantabulous harshad as always.. ⭐️

3) Sia backhands V
even i loved this scene, although i had this expression 😈 but he smacked her four times, while she smacked him only twice.. so 😳

4) Sriti's performance post fall down the stairs
this was heartbreaking 🥺 even when she was dragged, to her fall down the stairs.. the grimace of pain she gave was so convincing... and the others u mentioned simply show that she is the best actress to portray a DV victim.. others cant hold a candel to her

7) Raghav/Sia unite
yummy hug..that was.. 😈 ☺️ until v stabbed sia..

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wow ...really detailed feedback, I really wonder how you do it everyday! 👏

Finally an episode where good seems to have the upper hand, until the stabbing🤢 that is. I found I actually enjoyed the entire epi instead of picking at faults like I did all of last week.

Was happy with the addition of the ambulance too - was a compromise between Komal & other docs POVs.😆 Just made Raghav being there so much more realistic.

Bloopers/illogical aspects of the episode I noticed were:
- The police are AWOL yet again! Midnight snack break now?? 😆
- Raghav strangling Viraj scene - I agree with you needed to be more believable.
- How did Sia's room end up downstairs? Ok I suppose its possible for 2 rooms to have same decor. The blue prints of this house have shuffled around in my head nth number of times - its really annoying. 😕
- Viraj's dialogue about Sia's love for Raghav - I didn't buy it either.
- Was Viraj getting shot a figment of our imagination??
- Sia rolls down those stairs & didn't break anything?? (I also wonder if Sriti actually did the scene or if they used a double). 😲 Was painful to watch.
- Raghav just left Viraj there after strangling him?
- Also - its probably best left for tomorrow, but I would think if your lady love is stabbed & dying your first thought would be to save her life & have someone else deal with the villain ...but anyway that's just me.

I agree with you that Raghvi's dialogues need to have more depth - even V's for that matter. Lucky for them the actors enact whatever's written so well!!

The best part of today was Sriti's performance!! 👏 👏
I started watching this show to see Jhanvi's journey and what becomes of her & I finally feel I got to see the character I was expecting her to become. (I would have liked to see some eye-rolls from her during V's monologues though 😉). It can actually be Jhanvi's kahani if they give her enough screen time!

The highlight of her performance for me was when she said 'I need you' during the confession scene. The way she seemed so vulnerable (but not in the Jhanvi kind of way) really sold it for me. After all the earlier scenes showing her strength standing up to V, I felt like I got see another part of Sia. Really beautifully portrayed by her.

Harshad was brilliant in this scene too, but the pitch of his voice during the first few lines made me giggle.



Edited by dsdsb.addict - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#7
Cons:
  1. Don't blame them. Blame the CVs for it.
Technical:
  1. The fighting scenes were especially bad in this case. We were seeing nothing of Raghav almost. It was quite annoying.
  2. True.
  3. Some episodes the dialogues are really good and some they are really bad.
  4. I didn't really like the scene much myself.
  5. I guess the dialogue writer didn't know what he was doing.
  6. I second that, please!
Pros:
  1. Sia's character has finally gotten some stability. She was composed and calm, where before she used to be scared.
  2. I loved that as well. The cord that connects these two could be seen so well. Usually I call these scenes very filmy, but when it comes to RaghaVi, filmy goes to the back burner. This scene was lovely.
  3. I loved when she had fronthanded V and I jumped for joy with this backhand. It was a "you-slap-me-I'll-slap-you-back" moment. And it rocked!!!!
  4. Sriti was great throughout the episode. So convincing that it rocked me to the bone. And the relief expression on seeing Raghav was so faithful.
  5. Well if looks could kill, Viraj would have died on the spot. Raghav's eyes were screaming "die Viraj".
  6. I watched this scene maybe 20 times and I still can't get enough. It was that awesome!!! Viraj being beaten to pulp was long coming and finally it had come. And Raghav did it awesomely!!!!
  7. HarshSri rocked in this scene. The grabbing and touching each other to make sure that they're both okay. Then the confession of love. And then the hug. The tears, the hands on the cheeks, and the dialogues all added to this scene. Aww I almost cried seeing this.
  8. It was an ambulance...hmm, I missed this part. I thought he was in the hospital. But ambulance works for me as well.
Technical:
  1. This was all about Sia and it showed well.
  2. That scene was really great.
  3. They were better, but they can be much better.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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One of my favourite moments from the entire episode (Apart from RaghavI professing their love! << aaaw!).. had to be Sia's backhand!! I was in awe!

Viraj slapped her, no surprise there... but then she retaliated. With all her might. All her energy went into that slap and I enjoyed it immensely!

And my other favourite moment was watching Raghav's eyes when he stopped Viraj from stabbing Sia. <3 Damn! If looks could kill!

FYI: The police just standing there after Raghav went in; No comment 🥱 🥱

Awesome FeedBack Ana. You've summed everything up. <3
Edited by Lubz.TaAnu - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks for the feedback Elysia. 😛
My own personal opinion...it was a mindblowing episode...Sriti and HC take a bow.
Of course it started out slowly...with Viraj doing his nautanki...buttering up the toast and all with his blood...🤢...but I love how Sia was so determined to put him in his place right from the start...how she constantly told him...band kariye apni bakwaas!! 👏
I loved how she told the fiend the true meaning of love and that she would live and die only for Raghav...👏 👏
When the fiend tried to slap her and she stopped him...for a minute I thought...is that Raghav?...But no... it was Sia..😃 👏 👏 👏
When the fiend actually slapped her I was like Oh No! Here we go again...Sia don't take it lying down!!...and she didn't... 😃 😃 ...This had to be my absolute favorite part tonight...and I was hooting like crazy...😆...
I don't care if she only got in one slap...(and what a slap it was by the way 👍🏼 )...she fought back...that meant a lot for me...I wish she had done more...but she is undoubtetly not as physically strong as Viraj...so I thank you CVs for small miracles.
When the fiend was ready to stab her...I was like come on Sia roll out of the way! But she didn't need to... Raghav was there...😃 😃 😃
And then came my second most favorite part...Raghav beat the crap out of Viraj......Fab expressions by HC...I relished every moment of it...
Now I'll openly admit that I'm of the opinion that Viraj the lousy Dobriyal should be chopped into pieces and fed to the dogs...Heck why punish the dogs?...just chop him up and put the pieces in the trash compacter...so when Raghav choked him to "death"...it was icing on the cake for me.
Of course fiends like him don't go away so easily...they're actually like cockroaches...no matter how many you think you've killed...another one rears it ugly head soon enough...so it was very predictable that he'd be back...and we all knew Sia was going to be stabbed...{sigh}...well I'm sure she'll be alright...so I'll look on the bright side...Raghav will pulverize Viraj some more tomorrow. 😆
Barring the lazy lousy good for nothing police...for me...it was a fab episode. 👏
Edited by ummesulaiman - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Law enforcement of Gurgoan was doomed... now I got to know the medical system is also doomed🤣! I pity the citizens of Gurgoan😛
Ok will comment later!!!

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