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Posted: 13 years ago
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I wish that I had something intelligent to say. But all I can say right now is that I'm missing the essence of the show and characters. The episode was okay. But that's all it was.
>> Pros
1) Sunder found out about V's name and Jahnvi's status
About time that he returns with some info. Whether the info is true or not can be debated since we all know that V has made sure to establish the perfect scenario for his whatever plan to work.
2) Gayatri asks V to stay with them and Raghav leaves without a word
I actually loved that Raghav didn't dignify the stupid invite with a response -- except from turning his back and leaving. That said it all. You can't reason with people who refuse to see reason, in the first place. Gayatri is steadily digging her family's joint grave. Especially by practically handing over her family business to V.
3) Gayatri and Raghav confrontation in the outhouse
I think that what they both need is to yell at each other -- once and for all, let it out. What Gayatri said was shit annoying, and I was so frigging delighted at Raghav's answer. That there is a clear distinction between being ashamed and respecting his mother.
Gotta applaud this scene because Raghav was back. No tears. Just anger.
I wanted to slap Sia for interfering and would've preferred that Raghav had slammed his door in her face rather than allow her to watch them like she was watching two clowns in a circus. But, of course, Raghav has feelings for her and those annoying character traits of hers. Great.
4) Jahnvi hands Raghav a pillow
That was sweet and funny. The way she stopped him from smashing his fist against that mirror and placed the pillow in his hands. See? They should've just shot Gayatri-Raghav scene without Jahnvi as a disturbing element and have her appear when he was about to smash the mirror. She didn't have to know what he and his mother talked about.
Plus, give Raghav some credit for having a stunning intellect compared to other males on Indian TV. He could've handled Gayatri on his own, reached his own conclusions without Jahnvi's interference.
5) Jahnvi falls into an old habit
Finally. I've been waiting for this piece of logic to emerge in her character. When Jahnvi placed the fork and knife, subconsciously, in front of V at the morning table -- I got really happy. This is what makes her character interesting. Because she hasn't become Sia in mind, V's presence would naturally invoke fear and anxiety in her -- and have her repeat old habits. Like an addict and his drug, as I put it in another post.
This is to show that, in spite of her trying to convince herself and instead lying to herself, she is not Sia. She's still Jahnvi and V still has a hold over her that she's not prepared to break yet.
6) No RaghaVi nightmare in V's head tonight
Thank you, CVs, for sparing the purity of RaghaVi's relationship and not giving us another peep into V's dirty fantasies. I missed HarshSri's amazing chemistry, but not V's fantasies.
>> Cons
1) Double V again and again and again makes Elysia tired
I've christened the dual image "Ridiculous V", because that's what he is. The dual image, the Ridiculous V, has achieved something remarkable -- something that no character has ever managed to do to me before: He has exhausted me and I started thinking about the dinner plans for tomorrow night during his one-on-one with V. Talk about losing focus.
The dupatta scene was frigging creepy. And for a moment, I shuddered and thought: ooh, dear, he hath returneth. But then Ridiculous V showed up -- again -- and ruined the whole scene for me by erasing the scary factor and replacing it with pathetic OTT humor. I liked Unniyal better.
Same thing happened during the breakfast scene when Ridiculous V was on the table. I mean, apart from the dupatta scene, I haven't shuddered because of V for a long time. I kind of missed it, and Ridiculous V kind of ruined it for me. He just transform every scene into something not frightening at all, annoys me with his "I'm an alter ego, but not really" stamp, and the fact that he's a V clone.
One V is enough. He's been tiring me. Ridiculous V puts me right to sleep.
2) Jahnvi listening in on private conversations again and again and again makes Elysia extremely annoyed
Can I please slam the door in her face? Just once? I just wanna feel that sense of utter satisfaction when it slams in her face, keeping her out of at least one private conversation.
I can't stand it no more. What was her purpose? To guide Raghav through a conversation with his own mother? Is she his mentor now?
3) V dropping a hint and Jahnvi not catching it
O.o
He drops her the "is it just as hot in Manali" hint and the next morning she's serving him breakfast. Wonderful. What a clever girl.
4) Sunder hiding the truth from Raghav
Why? Why all this unnecessary suspense? Can we please have the old writers back?
5) No KriGhav
Well, this one is pretty self-explanatory. I miss them.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Maat pooch Ana ke recent episodes kitne exhausting hai

All I can say is that i'm meant to be writing the DOTW ... Ab aise episodes ke baad kya likhu ? Friggin nightmare I tell you. I guess I'll say the only thing i can say about Viraj, Raghav and J ... laut auo bhatakti hui aatmas. 🤣
Edited by chandnixxx - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: chandnixxx

. The only thing I'm going to be able to say about Viraj, Raghav and J is laut auo bhatakti hui aatmas. 🤣

LMAO, Chandu 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Posted: 13 years ago
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someone needs to tell cvs I didnt watch the epi yet but love your anylisis
Edited by Saraella - 13 years ago
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Wonderful analysis Ana, Here's my take on a few scenes;

I gave up watching the show in the middle of the week and have mostly watched Raghav and KriGhav scenes. What the creatives want to achieve by showing Viraj hallucinating about the 'other Viraj' is beyond me. It was ok at first but since the past 2 episodes their interaction just keeps on grating on my nerves, I feel shaking all the people around him and asking them if they are both deaf and blind that they can't see him talking to himself? I hope they don't take the Schizophrenic angle and use it as an excuse for Viraj's evilness.

Yes glad to know there was some progress today,mfinally at least they know about Viraj's identity. Hmm has he lost his business and gone broke? I doubt it, I think It's just a part of his plan like today for example he used it along with his crocodile tears in front of Gayatri to get some standing in the Singhaniya business so that it's eventually harder for Raghav and Sia/Jhanvi to get him out of the house.

Gayatri, no doubt I love her character. At first she had this cold and relentless persona but as the character has progressed we've seen a more vulnerable side to her and I like it that creatives have managed to develop her character appropriately. Her confrontations with Raghav are brilliant, the chemistry between them is just so intense and electrifying, but what I completely fail to understand is her lack of basic common sense and logic. Let's not talk about how she's got a stranger a living in her house, i think everyone has said enough on that but offering the same stranger a part of your business... Really? What kind of logic is that, ok fine I can understand if he starts working he'll be more productive and he won't be wasting Gayatri's time or his own time and it will get his mind off his whole 'situation' but how does she know hes not going to use her company's secrets? Or turnout to be a fraud? Or embezzle the funds? Instead of the estate business, Gayatri should have given him something like charity products (not the ashram) but something that could be separate from the Singhaniya business.

Raghav-Gayatri scene- The return of the old Raghav!! Not that I didn't like his vulnerable side but creatives had dragged that for simply too long showing him crying in every single scene, it was just getting too much, he is supposed to be a rough and strong character and today I loved it how he answered back to Gayatri that there's a difference between being ashamed and guilty and respecting someone. That one line was enough and equivalent to Gayatri's tirade.

Raghav-Sia: thank god for small mercies, I could not have handled another one of Viraj's dream sequence. The cushion scene was brilliant, In a subtle way she calmed him down, stopped him from hurting himself and showed that she cared. That's progress from Sia's side the viewers can clearly see that she does care for Raghav. She doesn't consider him just Krish's chahu or her saviour she almost considers him a friend. The scene was short but sweet. I loved how Raghav's expression changed within seconds from anger to confusion and then almost awe. Kudos to HC for such superb portrayal!

I haven't watched the whole of the epi so I don't know how Sundar didn't tell the whole truth, can someone please tell me how they indicate that Sundar was hiding it partly.
Edited by *angel94* - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Double V is the only thing entertaining me now !
But Jhanvi is really really annoying the crap out of me !
We do need the old writers back !
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks Elysia...
I only liked 2 things about tonight's episode:
Raghav and Gaytri's confrontation, and Viraj-Jhanvi dupatta scene (super duper creepy 😆)
Oh yes...I'm glad Sundar found out about Viraj...but why is it being suggested that Sundar is lying to Raghav...why would he do that? The information he gathered was just based on hear-say...something Viraj could easily manipulate, just as he doctored the medical reports. I mean what motive would Sundar have to hide the truth from Raghav...did I miss something? 😕
What I too didn't like was Jhanvi listening in on Raghav and Gaytri's conversation...😕...she wants to help...fine...but that's just bad manners.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ok so to begin with...
I loved loved Raghav walk away... and loved him even more when he told Sia "usski shakal dekha ka mood nahi hai" All I was doing was shrieking all the way "Raghav you dont want to see one face😡 but we have to see two and that too every single day😆" But I seriously loved that😆!
Raghav-Sundar... Raghav never blamed Sundar, he never even questioned his info... but he was trying to reason with his friend and I loved that fact👏... Raghav who cant stand Viraj, who wants to throw him out of his house, who takes full liberty with Sundar, was so composed and so understanding... he was trying to show Sundar why the info people have given him is wrong! I am sure had Gayatri not entered just then, Raghav would have caught sundar's lie there and then... Have I said it before I love this duo, they are a combination of love, respect and ofcourse full rights over each other😆!
Next was the best scene of the day...Gayatri-Raghav confrontation... I dont care what anyone has to say about Gayatri... but I believe she was not there to hurt Raghav and my reasoning for this is:
When she first enters the room, she CHECKS it out, as if she were making sure her second born has everything right, as if the outhouse if the right place for him to stay... she was there to find out if there was anything wrong, then she was going to fix all the servants of the house😆 . She reminds Raghav of their past together, just like Raghav did to her when he had come to her room (BTW I loved Raghav's slight smile here... it were as if he were re-living those sweet memories, as if he had travelled back in time when he and his bro were kids and his young mom would fix him ... oh I loved that smile!). The next things that she said by returning an album can you return back my Dev... this was purely her frustration... it was as if she were upset with herself more than that on Raghav... she could not digest the fact that after the confrontation they both had in the living room... after both blamed each other for not being a good son and a good mother, Raghav took the initiative to mend things. Raghav walked up to her room to talk to her... and this she thought was a failure from her side... bcoz it was her duty to fix her son's hurt just like their good old days... but here the roles were reversed and she did not like her son being all grown up and trying to fix her pain! And so she wanted Raghav to hurt her back... saying something nasty. I wonder does she feels that if she forgives Raghav she is doing injustice to Dev and so if Raghav hurts her then she has her reasoning as to why she does not forgive Raghav and in turn keepong Dev happy? She pulls the final straw by telling him that he is guilty and hence is not speaking up... but seeing no reaction from Raghav annoys her even more and so she decides to walk away bcoz she has failed again! Alas Raghav could not see any of thisOuch... poor guy still thought his mother was there to hurt him and so got angry yet again!
Wow that is such a "short" reply for one scene...Can you tell I really really loved that scene😳
Though now both Raghav and Gayatri are going to go back to hurting each other bcoz Raghav is so not going to like V working in their office and Gayatri is going to find the perfect opportunity to keep Raghav at bay!😆
As much as I loved that scene, I hated ... just hated Sia standing and listening to a private conversation. Ok Raghav listens to you, Raghav has let you enter his life and help him, but the guy needs some spaceAngry with his family.. leave him alone for onceAngry.
But I had to... just had to make this point... I didnt know apart from dealing with so much we were also dealing with a woman with superpowers... seriously... it is none other than Janvi... Think about it... she was standing at the door with a cup in her hand with Raghav's back towards her. Raghav said some words and was all ready to punch the mirror (though I personally wanted him to either slam the door on her face or punch that mirror... par meri sunta kaun hai yaha pe🤔)
but anyways going back to our superwoman, she puts the cup on the sidetable, reaches for the pillow (which is a good 10 feet from the sidetable), and is present at the correct spot in front of Ragahv where he is going to hit the mirror (which is another 12-15 feet from the pillow area) with not one hair being moved, her dupatta in the perfect place and a smile on her face... wah wah🥱
Though, I loved her gesture towards Raghav, she showed she cared for him for who he is😃...
In that scene, I loved raghav's expressions .. first he was so angry so pissed off and was all set to smash the mirror but the very next moment, all that is gone and he has a shocked face and then a composed, face almost thinking... what is this girl? why does she affect me so much? what is it in her that makes my anger vanish in split second? one gesture of hers and i am a completely different guy altogether... and as usually the master of expressions, Mr Harshad Chopda, nailed itClap
Questions:
Why is Sundar lying... as i said before raghav would have caught him, but now in future it is going to be difficult, sundar is going to completely avoid this topic with raghav...
Has he been threatened by Viraj and his goons? have they told him that if he tells the truth, they will hurt raghav and his family? does he know Sia is Janvi and is married to Viraj? if he knows this, then shouldnt he tell his bhaiyya abt it? does he think that since viraj has lost his memory, let raghav lead a life with Sia? but wouldnt it hurt raghav more if he gets to know of this later?
Can we not have V vs V talks from next week pls?
Will Sia ever ever speak up and tell the truth for once?... I am so sure she will not tell anybody anything even though today she said she wouldSleepy
Finally done!😆
Edited by sam123_0 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Elysia

Please refrain from provocative/unpleasant behavior. Thank you.

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I wish that I had something intelligent to say. But all I can say right now is that I'm missing the essence of the show and characters. The episode was okay. But that's all it was.
>> Pros
1) Sunder found out about V's name and Jahnvi's status
About time that he returns with some info. Whether the info is true or not can be debated since we all know that V has made sure to establish the perfect scenario for his whatever plan to work.

I am having serious doubt on him...I mean when he went to Jhanvi's house he couldn't have possibly missed Jhanvi's BIG portrayed hanging in the back. Hopefully this suspense is not dragged to a point where we are going crazy...😆😆
2) Gayatri asks V to stay with them and Raghav leaves without a word
I actually loved that Raghav didn't dignify the stupid invite with a response -- except from turning his back and leaving. That said it all. You can't reason with people who refuse to see reason, in the first place. Gayatri is steadily digging her family's joint grave. Especially by practically handing over her family business to V.
3) Gayatri and Raghav confrontation in the outhouse
I think that what they both need is to yell at each other -- once and for all, let it out. What Gayatri said was shit annoying, and I was so frigging delighted at Raghav's answer. That there is a clear distinction between being ashamed and respecting his mother.
Gotta applaud this scene because Raghav was back. No tears. Just anger.

This is another thing that pisses me off...what is the big "bad" thing that Raghav did? When are they going to say it? When is Gayatri going to stop being repetitive like a parrot saying "aapki wajha se humne apna bada beta khoya hai" UGH its annoying me so much to see how many repetitive scenes are being showen in this show now AFTER Jhanvi moved to the house...where is old charm?😕
I wanted to slap Sia for interfering and would've preferred that Raghav had slammed his door in her face rather than allow her to watch them like she was watching two clowns in a circus. But, of course, Raghav has feelings for her and those annoying character traits of hers. Great.

I KNOW!!!! Seriously she has NO RIGHT whatsoever to eavesdrop like that on mother-son PRIVATE conversation!!! She is hired to be a nanny for Krissh and should be doing just that..being a nanny! not a tip-giver person (couldn't think of a better word😆) She should listen to her own advice and help herself first!
4) Jahnvi hands Raghav a pillow
That was sweet and funny. The way she stopped him from smashing his fist against that mirror and placed the pillow in his hands. See? They should've just shot Gayatri-Raghav scene without Jahnvi as a disturbing element and have her appear when he was about to smash the mirror. She didn't have to know what he and his mother talked about.

This was the ONLY cute scene that I liked in the whole episode!
Plus, give Raghav some credit for having a stunning intellect compared to other males on Indian TV. He could've handled Gayatri on his own, reached his own conclusions without Jahnvi's interferenc
5) Jahnvi falls into an old habit
Finally. I've been waiting for this piece of logic to emerge in her character. When Jahnvi placed the fork and knife, subconsciously, in front of V at the morning table -- I got really happy. This is what makes her character interesting. Because she hasn't become Sia in mind, V's presence would naturally invoke fear and anxiety in her -- and have her repeat old habits. Like an addict and his drug, as I put it in another post.
This is to show that, in spite of her trying to convince herself and instead lying to herself, she is not Sia. She's still Jahnvi and V still has a hold over her that she's not prepared to break yet.

When Sia placed fork and a knife on the table i was like you can't be serious! WHY! Why would you do that and show Viraj that you have not changed and that you are still weak like the old Jhanvi! Why! Obviously Viraj will use that to his advantage!

When is she going to stop making false promises to herself saying is she going to fight..etc...ugh she is making me so mad!
6) No RaghaVi nightmare in V's head tonight
Thank you, CVs, for sparing the purity of RaghaVi's relationship and not giving us another peep into V's dirty fantasies. I missed HarshSri's amazing chemistry, but not V's fantasies.
>> Cons
1) Double V again and again and again makes Elysia tired
I've christened the dual image "Ridiculous V", because that's what he is. The dual image, the Ridiculous V, has achieved something remarkable -- something that no character has ever managed to do to me before: He has exhausted me and I started thinking about the dinner plans for tomorrow night during his one-on-one with V. Talk about losing focus.

Okay the first two times I saw Viraj's "antaratma" (if I said that right...well you know what i mean😆) I was hooked to my laptop screen...I was scared, I was worried for Jhanvi and others and most of all i had a smile on my face seeing those scenes now I am like okay we get it...move on now! Now it seems like a joke...idk if we should be worried and scared or just plain laugh at the scenes! And whatsup with Viraaj's antaratma's hairdo? Is it suppose to make us choose who could make the best villan in the show?
The dupatta scene was frigging creepy. And for a moment, I shuddered and thought: ooh, dear, he hath returneth. But then Ridiculous V showed up -- again -- and ruined the whole scene for me by erasing the scary factor and replacing it with pathetic OTT humor. I liked Unniyal better.

I was so creeped out as well watching that scene! i was like Ohh crap Jhanvi turn around and see for yourself how much he has truly changed...but one random thought popped up in my head..didn't Jhanvi feel a tug on her duppata when Viraj was doing that? Hmmm😕

I am going to do a experiment on that and see for myself 😆😆

P.S. I miss Unniyal! 😭
Same thing happened during the breakfast scene when Ridiculous V was on the table. I mean, apart from the dupatta scene, I haven't shuddered because of V for a long time. I kind of missed it, and Ridiculous V kind of ruined it for me. He just transform every scene into something not frightening at all, annoys me with his "I'm an alter ego, but not really" stamp, and the fact that he's a V clone.
One V is enough. He's been tiring me. Ridiculous V puts me right to sleep.
2) Jahnvi listening in on private conversations again and again and again makes Elysia extremely annoyed
Can I please slam the door in her face? Just once? I just wanna feel that sense of utter satisfaction when it slams in her face, keeping her out of at least one private conversation.
I can't stand it no more. What was her purpose? To guide Raghav through a conversation with his own mother? Is she his mentor now?

Even am wondering why is she in the house now? to interfere on people's private moments? Even servants wouldn't dare to do what she does...btw where are the servants? Are they gone? Or did Sia took their place? 😆 I mean i hear their names but never see them...😆😆

3) V dropping a hint and Jahnvi not catching it
O.o
He drops her the "is it just as hot in Manali" hint and the next morning she's serving him breakfast. Wonderful. What a clever girl.
4) Sunder hiding the truth from Raghav
Why? Why all this unnecessary suspense? Can we please have the old writers back?
5) No KriGhav
Well, this one is pretty self-explanatory. I miss them.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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just loved the analysis ely...
no comments abt this double V..its getting repitative and boring...
i want to see raghav's reaction to viraj joining the business thing...

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