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Posted: 13 years ago
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Aisha if she had told him she is upset and does not want to have physical relation because of that it would be different but she did it a condition so that he does not get distracted from his studies, which is where the problem is. She in a way declared that mohan is a desperado who won't be able to keep himself off her even when he has work, the thought itself is disgusting ... she did not say that i am upset hence we cant have physical relation, she said we can't because you will be distracted which is where the problem is


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: adipihu

everybody is correct. first i want to tell about myself. i am new to this forum. hi everybody i am prem and heer fan.in DP serial i dont like harshad at all bcz he is dumb in this serial. i am not hurting anybody. he is a one of the best actors in television. how they spoiled the mohan aka harshad character. and i am happy this serial is going off air soon. so he can come back with good character. all the best harshad.<div></div>



Hi...You are entitled to your opinion. Mohan is very true-to-life character in my opinion; he has a depth & dimension you won't find in most male protagonists on desi tv...Furthermore, Harshad has understood and done complete justice to this character. Nobody else could have played him so convincingly. I think I speak for everyone here that we only want the best for him and all the other cast members in the future! God bless them in all their endeavors! 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: thornewood9

I'm confused. Maybe I missed this part. Kastur tells Mohan he has to pay for his crime ie lying about his degree and that punishment is to complete his degree. So... where's the problem...?😕

I understand she was hurt because he had lied about quite a big issue. He shared his body but not his secrets?
It kind of makes sense that she would question his feelings after that.
And ok in hindu marriage a wife has to keep her husband happy whatever the issues but this isn't exactly a basic hindu marriage now is it?
These two love each other. When one person lies to another when they share love together then it does hurt the other.
And education is a big issue.
There have been loads of situations where two people have gotten married and only after marriage it has been realised that one lied about their qualifications.
It's not something you can't get past but if you're going to share your life with someone and then lie about one aspect of your life it does make the other person think maybe they were lying about everything, where does the lie stop?
Aisha xxx😊

I don't believe it's a wife's duty to keep her husband happy no matter what. I don't believe it's a wife's duty to give it to the husband. Both have duties to each other, but both are also individuals.

My problem is the way it was presented in Wednesday's episode. Had it been shown the way it was shown in Thursday's episode with Mohan asking "is there any time for romance" and Kastur shaking her head, that's fine.

I don't have a problem with the "distraction" part so much. I've seen it used in a more light manner in various shows before. But here it was much more serious.

I'll just copy and past a post I had written in the EDT two nights ago

It really depends on the context. If it's more in a light manner, I've seen it done plenty of times and not just in Indian serials. But here it was completely serious. It's not just a matter concentrating on his studies. It's so much more. It's denying him the emotional support he needs, because he was begging for her to understand him and support him. He has so much more issues, so much to worry about. And to say she won't be close to him and "feelings" are enough. W*F? It's not even the sex, it's the lack of physical intimacy in general.

And it also seemed like it was part of his penance. Almost as if because of this lie, it is not "right" for them to share any such relations. That's the feeling I got from it. That the wrong has to be corrected, or else their relationship cannot be pure.

It's just... ugh.

If this show had developed the story correctly, and she found about his reason for marrying her, and they had problems, she moved backed away from physical relations, that's more than understandable. But that wouldn't be under the pretense that it's all okay. That would be under the knowledge that their are some issues (and rightly so) in their relationship that need to be worked on.

It's just the way this show portrayed this whole thing, over what, why, and how. Such a disgrace!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I'm confused. Maybe I missed this part. Kastur tells Mohan he has to pay for his crime ie lying about his degree and that punishment is to complete his degree. So... where's the problem...?
understand she was hurt because he had lied about quite a big issue. He shared his body but not his secrets?
It kind of makes sense that she would question his feelings after that.
And ok in hindu marriage a wife has to keep her husband happy whatever the issues but this isn't exactly a basic hindu marriage now is it?
These two love each other
When one person lies to another when they share love together then it does hurt the other.
And education isa big issue.
There have been loads of situations where two people have gotten married and only after marriage it has been realised that one lied about their qualifications.
It's not something you can't get past but if you're going to share your life with someone and then lie about one aspect of your life it does make the other person think maybe they were lying about everything, where does the lie stop?

Aisha xxx😊
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@ blue: Soaps and I have summarized why this is an issue so I won't repeat what's already been said...
@orange: thats exactly the problem.Kastur follows Hindu dharma...her marriage is based on Hindu tradition. And she is well-versed in these traditions...Based on them,her love and devotion are supposedly unconditional..So if you love someone and they love you, why would you put conditions on that love?
@red: I don't disagree here...but,Kastur has lied in the name of family and for other reasons and justified it as something she was doing to benefit everyone. The irony here is that Mohan lied for the very same reason: he did not want his mother & his family to be let down.Asking him to repent by getting the degree & denying him intimacy mocks Mohan's love for her, making it seem like Mohan only desires her body & nothing else. She has put conditions now on their love--thats not done!
@green: you make a really valid point. As the audience, we are still scratching our heads if Mohan will come clean to Kastur about why he actually married her & tell her abt the debt still outstanding to Baapji & the casino owners...It doesn't seem so. However, Mohan now realizes that the lies need to stop which is why in Wednesday's epi, he asked Kastur when will they end & who can help him put an end to them (her answer was working for and getting the degree would rectify his wrong & God would give him the courage to do the right thing.)


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Posted: 13 years ago
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May I add that Kastur's lie was telling an old man that he had not consumed non-veg, when in fact he had?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh

May I add that Kastur's lie was telling an old man that he had not consumed non-veg, when in fact he had?


Not just any old man, her own grandfather in-law...yeah, & all in the name of her so-called bahu dharm...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh

I don't believe it's a wife's duty to keep her husband happy no matter what. I don't believe it's a wife's duty to give it to the husband. Both have duties to each other, but both are also individuals.

My problem is the way it was presented in Wednesday's episode. Had it been shown the way it was shown in Thursday's episode with Mohan asking "is there any time for romance" and Kastur shaking her head, that's fine.

I don't have a problem with the "distraction" part so much. I've seen it used in a more light manner in various shows before. But here it was much more serious.

I'll just copy and past a post I had written in the EDT two nights ago

It really depends on the context. If it's more in a light manner, I've seen it done plenty of times and not just in Indian serials. But here it was completely serious. It's not just a matter concentrating on his studies. It's so much more. It's denying him the emotional support he needs, because he was begging for her to understand him and support him. He has so much more issues, so much to worry about. And to say she won't be close to him and "feelings" are enough. W*F? It's not even the sex, it's the lack of physical intimacy in general.

And it also seemed like it was part of his penance. Almost as if because of this lie, it is not "right" for them to share any such relations. That's the feeling I got from it. That the wrong has to be corrected, or else their relationship cannot be pure.

It's just... ugh.

If this show had developed the story correctly, and she found about his reason for marrying her, and they had problems, she moved backed away from physical relations, that's more than understandable. But that wouldn't be under the pretense that it's all okay. That would be under the knowledge that their are some issues (and rightly so) in their relationship that need to be worked on.

It's just the way this show portrayed this whole thing, over what, why, and how. Such a disgrace!


Right on!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: thornewood9

I'm confused. Maybe I missed this part. Kastur tells Mohan he has to pay for his crime ie lying about his degree and that punishment is to complete his degree. So... where's the problem...?😕

I understand she was hurt because he had lied about quite a big issue. He shared his body but not his secrets?
It kind of makes sense that she would question his feelings after that.
And ok in hindu marriage a wife has to keep her husband happy whatever the issues but this isn't exactly a basic hindu marriage now is it?
These two love each other. When one person lies to another when they share love together then it does hurt the other.
And education is a big issue.
There have been loads of situations where two people have gotten married and only after marriage it has been realised that one lied about their qualifications.
It's not something you can't get past but if you're going to share your life with someone and then lie about one aspect of your life it does make the other person think maybe they were lying about everything, where does the lie stop?
Aisha xxx😊

Another thing. This just speaks to how they refuse to show Kastur as anything other than the dharambahu. And also dharampatni in their sick way of what a dharampatni is supposed to be. Their idea of what bahu is supposed to be is sick, too.

Kastur is never allowed to react to anything regarding herself. Hardly ever. One real reaction was her crying when he told her he didn't lover her. That's it. And then her tears of happiness before he told her he loved her, but I won't count that because that's more positive.

So when do we see her react? On what issue? And on whose behalf? She's not allowed to react on any of the issues that more directly involve her. Nope. Even the degree, it does involve her but the way it was presented, nope she's reacting on his family's behalf. The lie that he gave to his family. The hurt he's giving his family and mother.

The more I write about it, the more sick I get.

Let's not forget... she did her duty as a dharambahu. She told her parents that she's doing her duty, and that they shouldn't interfere. And they of course issue an apology and go on their merry way.

Sick! Absolutely and Utterly Sick!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#39
ditto LIK...u hv told everything i wanted 2 burst out🤢...

y did d CVss ruin kastur's character i really feel sumthing...she nvr stood 4 herself nd nw wen d matter actually doesnt need any anger or punishment but actually needs of support 2 MOHAN they made her apply d sick condition..

CVsss r soo cheap dat they compared sex nd degree in d same level🤢...eww...
i wish dat Asiya wud objest 2 do d scene wen she had heard d script...

but in dis show d main problem is dat kastur's thought processes r utterly sick nd everytym she is proved 2 b right along wid baapji 4 dere siilar POV...she is d female lead dat doesnt mean wateva they made her do was all right, but 4m my opinio 90% of d things were wrong...
den as an audience hw will i feel good 4 d character????

many of us r only here cos we r HC fans but dat doesnt mean dat d female lead can do any such shit nd we wont b bothered bcos HC's char is fine...very disappointed 4m d CVss...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Kastur just does not react aptly any where ... I mean am ok if she chose to understand why Mohan lied about degree and wanted to help him, its not beyond human specially when you love someone and Mohan finally shared with her why he had to ... BUT my problem is does she want to support him or punish him? If she had chosen not to forgive him i will still understand but once she forgives then what was she trying to imply by saying if we have physical relation you would be distracted? If she had said since you lied and i can't live with a lie, i won't have physical relation with you till that lie is corrected, it would have been different but she said no such thing, what her condition implies instead is she think her husband is a desperate fool and can't keep himself off of her and hence won't study, the thought itself is i don't know what

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