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Subha

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Posted: 13 years ago

#51

Tarakasura was a big shiv bhakt,i too know dat.But in dis show,most of da time dey hv shown him mocking or insulting him.He always calls him 'shiv'and not 'shivji'

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whatthewhat

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Posted: 13 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: subha2601
Tarakasura was a big shiv bhakt,i too know dat.But in dis show,most of da time dey hv shown him mocking or insulting him.He always calls him 'shiv'and not 'shivji'

Neither did Sati, Daksh, Prasuti, even Rohini or Chandra...and I am glad... it would have been too distracting IMO.

But this is an interesting point...older texts probably don't add "ji" to names as an honorific...my suspicion is that it is a recent development...& confined to N. India.

Anyone else have any thoughts about this?

If I remember correctly, in the Mahabharata Krishna is addressed by everyone as Krishna (among other things of course) no ji...just thinking of one of my fav lines in the Gita: "Chanchalam hi manah Krishna"...not "chanchalam hi manah Krishna ji" 😆

Anyway, in South India, we don't use ji. I don't use it - it was not part of my cultural training! 😆

Edited by narangi_77 - 13 years ago

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Subha

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Posted: 13 years ago

#53

Originally posted by: narangi_77

Neither did Sati, Daksh, Prasuti, even Rohini or Chandra...and I am glad... it would have been too distracting IMO.

But this is an interesting point...older texts probably don't add "ji" to names as an honorific...my suspicion is that it is a recent development...& confined to N. India.

Anyone else have any thoughts about this?

If I remember correctly, in the Mahabharata Krishna is addressed by everyone as Krishna (among other things of course) no ji...just thinking of one of my fav lines in the Gita: "Chanchalam hi manah Krishna"...not "chanchalam hi manah Krishna ji" 😆

Anyway, in South India, we don't use ji. I don't use it - it was not part of my cultural training! 😆

i did not mean dat by not calling someone as 'ji',he is disrespecting him.what i meant is acc.2 da info which krishna posted.tarakasur was a big devotee of shiv but in dis show,tarakasur has always disrespected shiv.in many scenes,i hv seen him doing dat.so again da cvs r showing something ulta.😆

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whatthewhat

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Posted: 13 years ago

#54

Originally posted by: subha2601

i did not mean dat by not calling someone as 'ji',he is disrespecting him.what i meant is acc.2 da info which krishna posted.tarakasur was a big devotee of shiv but in dis show,tarakasur has always disrespected shiv.in many scenes,i hv seen him doing dat.so again da cvs r showing something ulta.😆

I got what u meant. 😃 In the show, they depict Taki doing ghor tap, getting his boon, and then almost laughing at Mahadev's "bholapan"...😆

anyway, I was just interested in your comment about "ji" in general...it just got me thinking about who started to add it and when and where ...

As I said, we don't have that in S India. We have other honorifics of course.😃

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Vrish

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Posted: 13 years ago

#55

Originally posted by: subha2601
There r 2 ways 2 get moksha or salvation.One by praying 2 God wid full devotion and leaving all da sansarik maya,relationships,etc.
Da oder way is to die frm da hands of God.Dat's a real shortcut 2 attain moksha.u won't even take rebirth after u get killed by Gods.All u do is trouble da devtas,harrass da humans and den God will come and kill u.In dis case,da asuras and rakshasas r very lucky.

Subha

That is very true. Not only that, the asuras are also the reason for the mere existence of so many gods, as well as Vishnu himself taking at least 4 avatars - Varaha, Narasimha, Vamana and Rama. Here are the gods & goddesses that the asuras were responsible for invoking:

Durga (by Mahishashur, although did Parvati invoke Durga earlier when Ganesh was beheaded?)
Kartikeya (by Tarakasura/Surapadman, depending on which a/c one is going by)
Ayappa (by Mahishi, forcing Shiva & Vishnu to conceive a son 🤣

Any others I missed? In other words, any other deities whose existence we owe to our beloved asuras, rakshashas and danavas?

On the -ji honorific above, it is a modern invention. I doubt that even in the 18th century that it existed. Also, I am amused when people say things like Shivaji - I always think about the founder of the Maratha nation when I hear that, rather than Mahadev.

Edited by .Vrish. - 13 years ago

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Subha

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Posted: 13 years ago

#56

Was Kans an asur or a human?He had more qualities of an asur/rakshas.One of da reasons why Lord Vishnu took birth as Krishna was 2 kill him.

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.Reshama.

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Posted: 13 years ago

#57

Originally posted by: subha2601
Was Kans an asur or a human?He had more qualities of an asur/rakshas.One of da reasons why Lord Vishnu took birth as Krishna was 2 kill him.

kans was an asur

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Krishna

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Posted: 13 years ago

#58

Originally posted by: .Reshama.
kans was an asur

Reshama kans was not an asur, he was yadava and he was related to Krishna. I heard some where that kans was asura who took human birth i am not sure though.

but he was definitely Human with asuric qualities dominating his other qualities. Kans was also a very ardent follower of devi shakti.

he was a profound devotee of devi shakti

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mnx12

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Posted: 13 years ago

#59

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

On the -ji honorific above, it is a modern invention. I doubt that even in the 18th century that it existed. Also, I am amused when people say things like Shivaji - I always think about the founder of the Maratha nation when I hear that, rather than Mahadev.

There is a difference between Shivaji & Shivji. One is human other one is God.