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Posted: 13 years ago

#861

Is there any story about how a person becomes Indra. What's his eligibality criteria?

Nahush became Indra due to his punyas & the Indra was not able to concentrate on his duties because of sin of Brhma-hatya. Before him how a person achieved this status of Devraj?

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@Gods_child

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Posted: 13 years ago

#862

Ohh my doubt was mata ganga in love with SHIVa as cvs have shown..AS far as i have heard its just that she was trapped in hair of mahadev..

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Posted: 13 years ago

#863

i am really confused,ganga said that she gave her everything to shiv and then bheesma was her child with a king,what is that?????😕

and did she really loved shiv in real,ah i mean in kathas and all that??

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Subha

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Posted: 13 years ago

#864

Ok someone opened a really interesting topic abt Rishi Dadhichi.I too wanna know how he died.i too had heard dat he applied honey all over his body,da animals licked da honey as well as ate his flesh.😭.In wiki,i read abt he burning his body and dying.😭

So which story abt his death is true?Does anyone know dat?

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shruti

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Posted: 13 years ago

#865

@Lucky-Gangas relationship with shiva is often misinterpreted and easily misunderstood,certain sections of the society interpret Ganga as wife to Shiva beacuse well-a man and woman can never have any relation other than a husband and wife,and some sections thought that an unmarried Ganga staying with a married Shiva would send bad signals hence they made her his wife...the truth it that no one other than Adi Shakti herself could have ever married him...

Shiva if you noticed is referred to as Gangadhara-not Gangapati,like he is referred to as Umapati...in no place as far as i know,he is mentioned as Gangas husband...only as Parvatis!

Ganga marriage to _________(okey i forgot the dudes name-someone please fill in the blanks) raised out of curse(its given here itself)-its a lllooonnnggg story!😉

some versions which make the story as a pati-pani and woh thing say that the curse of a human birth was given by Parvati out of jealousy...but that is taking in regard the Pati-Patni and Woh scenario,the whole Ganga being in love with Shiva is a by product of that belief...

however widely Ganga is regarded to be unmarried...

Ganga in a way gave up her everything for Shiva-she never married,she even raised his kids like a mother(Ganapati and Kartikeya are regarded to be her kids too),was even a participant in thier birth,some versions of the Samudra manthan story also state that when Shiva swallowed the Halahal Ganga helped in cooling him down...Ganga in a way is an essential part of Shiva-showing her having a soft spot to him-yes she might have had one-but LOVE him...no...i dont quite think so...

and im more than confident the Cvs wont pursue any love triangle or make it two sisters loving one guy thing-people wont accept such a track!

Ive always wondered how such "traditionalists" never tried to give any "Name" to Chandras relationship with Shiva🤣...looks like the "Ladka Ladki Kabhi Dost nahi Ban sakte" thingy existed that time as well...

@Subha-the widely known story of Dadhichi is that he as shown consumes the weapons of the Devtas,so when the Devtas come back to claim them he cannot give them back to them as the weapons powers have been absorbed by the bones...hence by yogic powers he gives up his body,hence making his bones available to be used as weapons...

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Sneha

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Posted: 13 years ago

#866

u knw in a temple in West Bengal, Dakhinehwar... i saw 12 shivlings...and even in d recent griha pravesh puja we had, dere were 12 shivlings made...

wats d connection between 12 and lord shiv??

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Purva

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Posted: 13 years ago

#867

Originally posted by: mnx12
Is there any story about how a person becomes Indra. What's his eligibality criteria?
Nahush became Indra due to his punyas & the Indra was not able to concentrate on his duties because of sin of Brhma-hatya. Before him how a person achieved this status of Devraj?

One of the criteria was if a king performed 10 Ashwmedh yagyas then he became eligible to become king. There is a legend attached to Dashashwamedh Ghat in Benaras, that a king was about to perform his 10th yagya there, and Indra stole the horse, since he didn't want to be unseated. The king however was blessed and given the same amount of punya as though he had already performed the 10th yagya.

There are other eligibility criteria also, I think there was some legend associated with performing tapasya for so many years that made someone Indra.

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Purva

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Posted: 13 years ago

#868

Originally posted by: subha2601
Ok someone opened a really interesting topic abt Rishi Dadhichi.I too wanna know how he died.i too had heard dat he applied honey all over his body,da animals licked da honey as well as ate his flesh.😭.In wiki,i read abt he burning his body and dying.😭
So which story abt his death is true?Does anyone know dat?

One of the legends connected with Dadhichi's death is that in one of the Devasur wars, all the Celestial weapons were left in Dadhichi's safekeeping. When the devas came to claim them, Dadhichi confessed that he had hidden the weapons within his own body as his ashram was also attacked.

The other legend says that a Asura had the boon that he could not be killed by any known weapon that was existing at the time of the granting of the boon, so the Devas needed a weapon that did not exist at that time and were guided to Dadhichi. Dadhichi was immersed in samadhi and he mindspoke to the Devtas saying that he could not break his samadhi, but they were free to take his bones.

Another legend has it that he was the first to perform the Bhor tapasya, giving up all mortal routines like eating and drinking water, he slowed down his breathing to such an extent that he would breathe only once in a day. As a result his body shrivelled and he was nothing but bones. However, all the merit of his tapasya and the power resided in his bones.

Whatever the reason the end is that the devtas took the bones from his body while he was still living and fashioned Indra's Vajra out of them. If they had taken the bones after his death then all his punya that resided in the bones would have accrued to his soul rendering the Vajra powerless. Once the Vajra was crafted and used Dadhichi left the mortal world and his last rites were done by the Devas themselves.

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mnx12

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Posted: 13 years ago

#869

Originally posted by: Chitrashi

One of the criteria was if a king performed 10 Ashwmedh yagyas then he became eligible to become king. There is a legend attached to Dashashwamedh Ghat in Benaras, that a king was about to perform his 10th yagya there, and Indra stole the horse, since he didn't want to be unseated. The king however was blessed and given the same amount of punya as though he had already performed the 10th yagya.

There are other eligibility criteria also, I think there was some legend associated with performing tapasya for so many years that made someone Indra.

Even I am aware of this Ashwamedh yagyas. But this can not be the only criteria, there has to be much more then this. Indra is also lord of Rains, besides being Devaraj. So this yagya may be just one of the many eligibalities Indra should have. He was always insecure so used to send his apsaras to break penance or had played some tricks too. He wanted to retain his power at any cost.

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Purva

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Posted: 13 years ago

#870

Originally posted by: sub_rosa
I am amazed as well as disappointed that the story of Kamadeva was not given the closure that it deserved. According to the most celebrated version, Shiva, after burning down Kama, was approached by a grief-stricken Rati. Shiva took pity on her and revived Kama. But even then Kama did not get back his body, and came to be known as 'Ananga' or 'Atanu', meaning 'Bodiless'. In another variant of the story, Shiva dispersed the essence of Kama among the mango, the spring, the moon, flowers, bees and cuckoos. Yet another story (possibly from a Shakta source) describes how Kama worshipped goddess Sati near the Kamakhya Shakti Peetha to regain his physical form, the memory of which incident has been immortalized in the name of the region i.e. Kamarupa.

All of the above stories are highly relevant to the current narrative and I was expecting to see at least some of it in the show! So why do you think the writers hastened through this part? Is there any reference in the traditional sources to Vishnu resuscitating Kamadeva, as was shown in the show?

Since Kamdev was the God of sexual desire and his total annihilation would mean the destruction of all life, Parvati after winning Shiva's love requests him t restore Kamdev, but Shiv agrees to restore Kamdev only in the spiritual form and does not give him a body.

Kamdev existed between the planes of death and life in a spiritual form till his rebirth. Brahma promised Rati that Kamdev would gain a body once Shiv and Parvati were married. Grief striken Rati was consoled by Vishnu that he would bring back Kamdev as part of his Krishna avtar. Kamdev was born as Krishna's son Pradyumna.

The place where Kamdev lost his life is known as Anangashram.
Kamakhya Shakti Peeth is the temple of Bhudevi or Prithvi Mata so far ask I know. Kamrup does not have anything to do with Kamdev.

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