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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: wendy25

HOOLA look who is here??

SURPRISE
its me , your wendy, same girl who is venting out her frustrations in DEK frustration thread these days. shama, i know these days i don't get time to comment on your thread but i read it daily without fail and like it.
So, now except it shama, show is inconsistent and going in circles, now just accept rather then being DEK bhakt. Manyata's character has been butchered but they can prevent further damage.
hoping best from next week otherwise SA is on my dark board


I am upset with you. I remember who you are...GRRR...yes you vent to the whole world but you don't vent to your sister. Makes me want to take out my Steve Madden sandals and be evil 😈. You have many explanations to make dear sis otherwise I start my punishment

While I am upset with you, I shall respond to your post because I am your sister. Sigh. LOL dear, you are asking Ms. Optimist to be COMMIT SUICIDE???? HOW COULD YOU??? To your own SISTER??? Don't tell me DEK has influenced you to define sisterhood like JN does??? GASP!!!! Now I know why I am DEAD to you on this forum!! I shall go cry in a corner...later, because I still have bhashan to give 😆

NOPE still think show is doing what it was set out to do...STOP right there. Don't give me those exasperated looks, yea I happen to be a 🤓, I know what you are thinking!! LOL. M is not being butchered dear, she is as she always was, stubborn to the core, as I have told Prerna and Kat in previous posts (you should really read them, lol, must say I have done some beyond the awesome analyses, and I NEVER praise myself, so can't believe I made interesting insights that I wish were part of my actual analysis, SIGH). ANYWAY will try to sum up, but like I said those posts are better in detail =) Yes as I was saying. M is who she is, but changed, yes she will always be STUBBORN to the core, but there have been changes. For example, we all didn't think too much of M asking UV for help, but I thought about it and was LIKE OMG, SHE ASKED FOR HELP from UV??!!! W*F????? I mean few weeks ago she was saying how she will NEVER ask for his help, yes she made the decision to get engaged to him and what not, but this is the FIRST time M has asked for help FROM UDAY. I mean before it would seem like she would rather drown her riyasat rather than ask for his help, that's how stubborn she was about her personal issues with Uday, She refuse to do the sensible thing for her riyasat because she had personal issues with UV. and then look what she did on Thursday. I mean those two just had an intense fight, and they set aside their personal issues LIKE FAMILY and became a unit, a team! I mean I still remember when Komal said that family comes together in times of difficulty, even if they have personal issues with each other, they set them aside and become united when facing problems. So I think UV-M did that exactly. Those two are more family to each other, as each day passes. And as for M's A jaap, well what did we expect, that was bound to happen. And hopefully it will become all twisted and what not because she will be facing heartbreak on Monday when she finds out about Akash and Tara's engagement. And I thnk this is when Nizza's spoiler about how M will be confused about A and UV will come into play because perhaps this week will be about ManVeer, but I think A revealing that he is Akash is only a ploy, to make UV-M separate, to mess with M's head, and what not. He is after all the resident DEK villain. And I think M will continue to make her mistakes, but she is not being butchered, I think everyone is overreacting, if anything M is making her mistakes because that guy was her love, she cried for him for SO long, I mean how can we expect her to give up on him and become perfect Yuvrani who is sacrificing everything for her family. I mean it was not easy for her to do before, but it was still easier because A was not alive to her, but now that A is alive and back on the day of her engagement nonetheless, I mean she is bound to get a little crazy. I can't blame her. All of a sudden she is doing all this grown up stuff and then the one person she fought for, shows up at the mall and then her doorstep. I would go crazy if I was in her place. And M will continue to make her mistakes, but they only seem like a big deal because everyone seems to overemphasize her mistakes on the forum, but everyone seems to forget that a LOT of things have changed, and she is no longer that girl on that bus with Akash in the first episode. Things have changed since then, A LOT, LOL. I mean I remember how innocent and naive and unaware she was of the real world. Sigh makes me nostalgic about my childhood days...but I digress LOL. back to the point, so M I don't think will be perfect in future weeks, but I don't think she is being butchered either. In fact think SA has stuck to her concept since the beginning, this show continues to be about a girl growing up, facing her inner conflicts, her struggles, her coming to terms with her reality. In fact I think I was talking about that in my post to Prerna, or Shal?? I don't remember OH GOD...anyway, one of the posts, I was replying how A's dream of becming rich came true, but he became rich because of difficult circumstances, because of M actually and this whole revenge factor. So sometimes dreams come true, but at what price??? M's dream came true about becoming Princess, but then again she had to lose her world for another world, she saw a dream, it came true, but now she has to face the consequences of that dream coming true. Meaning she has to overcome her own insecurities, her own fears, open her mind because she has a mind set that was narrow and is becoming more open because of her interaction with UV. Speaking of UV, that reminds me of how easy it was her for her to fall in love with A, because he was basically perfect in nature (which I have doubts about what with A being evil now, but that's another theory for another day, lOL), so falling for A was easy because he was "perfect", but now that has changed, and UV well she has had to deal with UV and she knows his bad and his good. SHe has accepted it and perhaps will continue to learn and fall more for Uday in upcoming weeks, but even I don't expect perfection there, because they are a realistic relationship in that it has its flaws, but it has its overall goodness too. And with these two, I have always told you that their love is very much unspoken, they are not like Monash, they don't claim their love for each other in 90s bollywood style LOL. They are complicated, they have their pride, they have their flaws, they have their good moments, they have their bad moments, but overall together they make a perfect team, without having to say anything to each other, they set aside their personal issues/egos and resolved an issue together. I hope you read my explanation on M's character that I had mentioned in this post or previous post that I had provided a link, I think that was pretty thorough too, LOL. I feel like I have missed a lot of points, but yes those posts covered it. LOL. Anyway these days, I am in DEK Nirvana LOL. I was mentioning this to Kat just now, LOL. But yes I am now above such things as TRPs, IF ranking, and DEK ending stuff, I don't care anymore, I just want to watch the show, because the show is not ending tomorrow, so I shall just enjoy this show as I always have and always will, shows come and go, that is life, and right now I will only appreciate this show, because my week long hiatus from this forum has given me peace, ironic, na?? LOL. I was dying of withdrawal, but at the same time, I was at peace too...because I could enjoy the show like I use to before my actie status on forum, I forgot how that felt like...it was very nice, although I am VERY happy to be back, I think I will stick to that detached sense of peace I got last week and enjoy the show for what it is and always will be. At least SA didn't step away from concept of show, and made into a saas bahu serial or a typical youth show, she really could have done that, and then she would have butchered the characters, UGH...I mean butchering is what I call what Ekta did when her K serials were going on, I mean that was slaughtering, butchering, and other forms of corporal punishment to the characters. I mean none of those shows resembled the original concept of the show by the end, i mean they tried to, but I was like nope, I am not buying it, this is a bunch of crap. LOL.

Hmmm so think twice Wendy sis, before you go and provoke your sister into round three of DEK bhashan. Because I shall write back with vengeance! LOL... 😉
Edited by yaherd15 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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shama mama, I am just replying after reading your reply and I am very good at dodging sandals, so you'll miss it. And how dare u to compare me to JN. If didn't give you cynide but ya i do want to give it to SA. Ok yet to read your DEK bhashan, dare not to fled away.your mom are already doing so much atrocities on us so don't go, i have to comment more and bitch about cvs
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oh Shama I adore you! We have similar taste, I was super bummed when Samantha Who ended and I liked Eli Stone, but at least its on netflix- and the continuation of Dallas started this week which means I will have ANOTHER guilty pleasure show to watch in the evenings- uff I swear between watching DEK on my laptop when I am at work, and then being on IF throughout the day- and then coming home and watching my evening programs- its a friggin miracle I am at all able to function.

My DEK obsession is borderline unhealthy sometimes...but I do like to give into- hence my IF obsession! 😉 Besides its fun too! I really cannot wait to see what happens this week especially since we get to see the finale of the fight-

Yeah there are a lot of ManVeer love scene theories that are floating around- but I think its still a little soon for M to be in love with UV, she has feelings for him and I think they confuse her because her heart and her head are pulling her in two different directions, she is fighting her own internal conflict which is waging war between A and UV- and then of course UV is always fighting his own inner demons. Its going to be really interesting to see how everything plays out over this week.

Yeah it is probably a good thing you don't get to reply to every post every day, but you get to have your weekends to have your IF frenzy if you will! Besides when we take a step back from the show things tend to look a little bit clearer!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: wendy25

shama mama, I am just replying after reading your reply and I am very good at dodging sandals, so you'll miss it. And how dare u to compare me to JN. If didn't give you cynide but ya i do want to give it to SA. Ok yet to read your DEK bhashan, dare not to fled away.your mom are already doing so much atrocities on us so don't go, i have to comment more and bitch about cvs

Ha! I have very good aim 😉. LOL and I didn't compare you to JN, I only said has DEK made you crazy enough to think that sisterhood is the way JN defines it LOL. 😆 LOL oh dear well I hope it's not about ManVeer not happening because I really think that is going to happen slowly throughout this entire Aryan mess, because Aryan mess has frankly not even started. This is only the beginning of his atrocities on Raj Parivaar.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Inkpen4877

Oh Shama I adore you! We have similar taste, I was super bummed when Samantha Who ended and I liked Eli Stone, but at least its on netflix- and the continuation of Dallas started this week which means I will have ANOTHER guilty pleasure show to watch in the evenings- uff I swear between watching DEK on my laptop when I am at work, and then being on IF throughout the day- and then coming home and watching my evening programs- its a friggin miracle I am at all able to function.


My DEK obsession is borderline unhealthy sometimes...but I do like to give into- hence my IF obsession! 😉 Besides its fun too! I really cannot wait to see what happens this week especially since we get to see the finale of the fight-

Yeah there are a lot of ManVeer love scene theories that are floating around- but I think its still a little soon for M to be in love with UV, she has feelings for him and I think they confuse her because her heart and her head are pulling her in two different directions, she is fighting her own internal conflict which is waging war between A and UV- and then of course UV is always fighting his own inner demons. Its going to be really interesting to see how everything plays out over this week.

Yeah it is probably a good thing you don't get to reply to every post every day, but you get to have your weekends to have your IF frenzy if you will! Besides when we take a step back from the show things tend to look a little bit clearer!

OMG!!!! You have seen those shows as well!!! We DO have similar tastes!!! Indeed super bummed it still makes me sad that awesome shows like that were cancelled...SIGH. LOL I have to find myself another guilty pleasure because man I can't watch Mad Men anymore until it ends because that show can get me super depressed about people and life, LOL very existentialist living going on in that show although VERY well made. LOL indeed DEK, and other entertainment makes me wonder what I am actually DOING LOL.

LOL it is fun to give into the obsession, but I have learned my lessons in negativity therefore a state of DEK nirvana has been reached, LOL. CAN"T wait to see the show, only have an hour or two left!!! So excited FINALLY i't s MOnday NIGHT!!! =)

AGREED Kat, it's too soon for M to be in love with UV, definitely think she will be opening more to him this week, but A is def going to be getting in the way of that with his revenge warfare and what not so expect those two be on a roller coaster of emotions with each other. Indeed those two have their own inner demons that will be taken for a crazy ride because of A. Agreed.


LOL Kat, as much as I wish I was back like crazy, I have to agree, that it's a good thing the way things are, I actually felt saner last week because of the restrictions, Moms do know best after all SIGH, LOL. INDEED, get to see the show a LOT more clearly when you get to take step back, DEFINITELY agree on that. I am pretty sure I would have missed a lot of points last week if I didn't have that breather from the forum. EEKS!! Can't wait for tonight's show!!! DEK drought ends today!!! For now...LOL


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Posted: 13 years ago
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shama , so here is my third round of DEK bashan😆
I can understand your POV shama and congrats you are some what successful in changing my opinions towards Manyata. You know what shama, we are thinking this way but most of the viewers don't.Show is trp driven and how can we expect trps if they show such crappy episodes. We can wait but everyone can't and then show will get axed. Lets look at it practically after more the 100+episodes still manyata's akash obsession is their from where it has started. manyata behaves like a girl which a some certain fixation or disorder rather then normal girl.ok i accept your point that manyata is growing up. people don't have so much patience as they are already waiting since 7 months and compare to that development in manveer goes backl to square one.
lets come to another point. why can't cvs certify that some they are obsessed with AR. I mean just look at it, not a single track completed without akash and akash's name. cvs know that how much his presence irks viewers but still they are not at all care about it. akash centric misleading promos, episodes , tracks are just too much to handle. I think the political, royal plot along with manveer they have chosen they have much more to show other then akash saga. many other tracks can be derived out of this basic plotbecause its actually very well connects to audience for eg many political romantic movies become block buster. i just want them to show some variations in their tracks because every tracks contains so much of akash. cvs are plain dumb, can't they get it that characters is just REJECTED by audience
And shama their is inconsistencies, you believe it or not. just look all manveer scenes, like jungle scene. coronation scene, pre coronation manveer friendship, BR-maya track is forgotten now.
now only akash is revolving around their mind. story is getting crappy as many people can't connect with female lead and sympathizes with UV more.
look many good rival shows are airing on same time slot and its obvious that sony doesn't waste its prime time slot, show has potential but it is not utilized properly and the proof is dripping trps
cvs need to buck up as now sjhow is under scanner. being a loyal DEK fan i'll stick to show till the end but i do not want such awesome and unique plot, characters with bang on casting go waste specially when it has potential to rule trps chart. I wish DEK's pre march writers come back.
I want show to air for a longtime that's why i want story to improve because general viewers watch show for entertainment not to rise their BP's. We can see insight of the plot but every body doesn't go to such a depth.
this is my share of bashan, now its your turn. I am ready to dodge your cyber sandals.😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: wendy25

shama , so here is my third round of DEK bashan😆

I can understand your POV shama and congrats you are some what successful in changing my opinions towards Manyata. You know what shama, we are thinking this way but most of the viewers don't.Show is trp driven and how can we expect trps if they show such crappy episodes. We can wait but everyone can't and then show will get axed. Lets look at it practically after more the 100+episodes still manyata's akash obsession is their from where it has started. manyata behaves like a girl which a some certain fixation or disorder rather then normal girl.ok i accept your point that manyata is growing up. people don't have so much patience as they are already waiting since 7 months and compare to that development in manveer goes backl to square one.
lets come to another point. why can't cvs certify that some they are obsessed with AR. I mean just look at it, not a single track completed without akash and akash's name. cvs know that how much his presence irks viewers but still they are not at all care about it. akash centric misleading promos, episodes , tracks are just too much to handle. I think the political, royal plot along with manveer they have chosen they have much more to show other then akash saga. many other tracks can be derived out of this basic plotbecause its actually very well connects to audience for eg many political romantic movies become block buster. i just want them to show some variations in their tracks because every tracks contains so much of akash. cvs are plain dumb, can't they get it that characters is just REJECTED by audience
And shama their is inconsistencies, you believe it or not. just look all manveer scenes, like jungle scene. coronation scene, pre coronation manveer friendship, BR-maya track is forgotten now.
now only akash is revolving around their mind. story is getting crappy as many people can't connect with female lead and sympathizes with UV more.
look many good rival shows are airing on same time slot and its obvious that sony doesn't waste its prime time slot, show has potential but it is not utilized properly and the proof is dripping trps
cvs need to buck up as now sjhow is under scanner. being a loyal DEK fan i'll stick to show till the end but i do not want such awesome and unique plot, characters with bang on casting go waste specially when it has potential to rule trps chart. I wish DEK's pre march writers come back.
I want show to air for a longtime that's why i want story to improve because general viewers watch show for entertainment not to rise their BP's. We can see insight of the plot but every body doesn't go to such a depth.
this is my share of bashan, now its your turn. I am ready to dodge your cyber sandals.😉

LOL I guess it's my round now, LOL Prepare yourself dear sis.

1) Viewers don't get subtlety, I have realized that they have been dumb-ified because of simple (read: STUPID) romance plots and plot twists. Yes I said it, dumbified, no thats not a word, LOL. This is where I get super pissed at our country and its thinking! I want to Satyamev Jayate all their rear ends, LOL. Do you know Wendy there was this show called Rishta.com on sony??? It was by far the BEST show I have ever seen on INdian telly, and guess what it was TOO urban and didn't get enough TRPs although that show was bloody brilliant! Yes go ahead and find it on youtube or some other website and watch it, it's fantastic! You know what gets TRPs Wendy, shows like SAATH NIBHANA SAATHIYA, and Diya Aur Baati Hum. Those kind of saas bahu shows! I mean SNS doesn't pretend to not be that kind of show at least, but DABH, well jeez you think that show is about a girl wanting to make her dreams come true to be a police officer along with an uneducated husband, but most times its about kitchen politics, this I know because I was curious to see why these TRP toppers were getting the highest ratings. These shows are popular because our own neighbors make these shows popular which is hilarious because these very people take on such snobbish attitudes towards saas bahu shows but then watch them and support them with TRPs! And I swear sometimes I feel like they expected DEK to be the Royal version of that. And crappy episodes?? Dear there have been some bad epis like any show, but no this show has never had a dull moment, not to me, I mean I can detach from shows very easily this is one show that I have never been able to detach from even when frustrated lol and I TRIED believe me at least in the beginning, but it DID NOT work and so I just gave up because I knew I was addicted, LOL.

2) M's obsession with A, well come on dear AR is listed as lead, he must be the villainous lead, so it looks he is going to be the permanent enemy and all because of M, she really is the change, that storm that shook the foundations of every Royal she associated with. She really changed everyone she came into contact with. And so this obsession with A could not be let go of, because she had to change A enough to the point that he comes back evil. And dear you really need to have patience because so what if 150+ have gone by, things have changed. ANd M is about to change too. She can no longer live in her fairy tale world like she has for 16 years. If people can't understand that it takes time to realistically tell a story, then screw them, go watch the more popular show. LOL can you believe that I am saying this sis?? LOL, yes I am because I don't care anymore, I just want to enjoy my DEK, lOL yes i will be sad if it ends because of low TRPs, but I will be happy that I got to watch such an exciting show and it was sad that it ended because people don't have brains enough to look beyond one episode, or romantic ManVeer scenes to see the entire storyline. I am being harsh, but honestly I am tired of everyones DEK jaap, I rather listen to Akash jaap, Yea I SAID it, lol i rather listen to Akash jaap than this kind of complaints because as a writer I can see how realistic all these changes have been, I mean I don't even know if members even appreciate how the truth of Tara and A's engagement truth was revealed. I mean that was brilliant how the scene was not where Tara announces dramatically that A is her fiance and everyones shocked reactions are shown, it was realistic in that she comes down to stop a fight and tells M that they should take their fiances away from each other or they will kill each other because she is completely unaware and she threw that out so carelessly and casually, that in itself was realistic, and there are several other scenes as such that were not made to be dramatic like that but were dramatic in itself because of the subtlety and realism there. And Manveer never went back to square one, I REALLY HATE THAT LINE. Square one my ass, i am sorry Wendy for my profanity, but it's tiring to hear that line over and over when the truth is, couples have fights, they hurt each other and you know what sometimes saying hurtful things is best because it makes the couple stronger once they get past it. And the truth is that everytime ManVeer had a falling out, and then became friendly again, a new level of comfort was reached in their relationship. Did you notice that at the beginning they were just friendly with each other, it was very friendship and cuteness their relationship, and then that friendship became deeper after the first falling out, and then they had another falling out, but yet again, they managed to reach some sort of compromise and that's when Akash arrived, right when moving on was about to start for M. I don't think square one was ever there, I think people think that when the fight happens, its square one, but its not, their comfort level with each other only grew because both have seen each others bad and good sides. Please don't ever say square one to me dear, my BP will go up, and who knows I might throw thousands of cyber sandals at you LOL.

3) Umm to be honest M has gotten more promos than Akash has. And then UV. And OMG Wendy I can't believe I have to explain this to you of all people, you konw that Akash is listed as lead, he may irk viewers but to be honest I like him now, only because he is so good at being villain!! LOL. Why do you get so upset now??? He has changed. He is not lover boy, he is our villain well DEK version of villain which means he is JN equivalent, LOL, that means he has his vulnerabilities as we know of his past life very well. If anything Monday was symbolic of that with CVs doing that BRILLIANT fight scene where they show A being the villain by taking off white jacket with black shirt underneath. As for Akash, he is the enemy that represents the common man, the politicians. Why should they get rid of him???? HE is going to make the perfect enemy for UV, because we know UV is awesome, but the thing is A will be the perfect villain who will face off UV and give trouble to ManVeer in a way that will be interesting to storyline. I think it makes it more interesting for A to be villain because he has personal history with Royals, and that will only make it very difficult and very political when its Royals Vs Politicians. Just thinking about upcoming story line gets me excited!!!! And dear, CVs are awesome because they know A will be accepted as villain they just needed audience to be patience. As you must know AR is doing bang on job as villain in Pratigya and I am sure CVs liked that and hired him to be villain for DEK as well. I mean have you ever heard of an actor doing double lead role in two shows or having a lead role in one show and having a side character role in another?? NO right, because he is villain in both of them so he is not lead of both shows, although is listed as lead but I feel like that was only to not give away the huge twist that was going to happen on his return after 3 month hiatus. So I don't reject his character, I say to him, go on Aryan and continue to be villain. LOL. because frankly I am tired of JN being the sole villain of DEK. LOL

4) Inconsistencies?? EGH not buying it. Yes there are some small ones, but dear are you really can base it on ManVeer scenes, please don't tell me you expected a stubborn character like M to fall for Uday after realizing that she may care for UV, please you know as well as I that she would deny deny deny especially with Akash between them. Like M said in MOnday's epi, how can she move on, she can't until she knows the answers, I mean the guy she cried for several months shows up on her engagement day, she is like I said to you before, bound to go nuts! And I can't blame her, she needs answers so she can move on in her life. She is the same only because she does not have answers. That makes complete sense to me, because I would be the same like her in that I would need answers from the guy I loved that is now with someone else as to WHY, why he did all this, and what are his reasons. Story is not getting crappy, beg to differ, it's only getting more interesting, and dear I felt that way before spoiler and Monday's episode, LOL.

Ummm dear as for as dropping TRPs, looks CVs know their job, they have been in the industry, they have experience, they will do what they need to do. As far as viewers are concerned, I have seen many shows that were brilliant end because of low trps, and stupid shows like SNS top charts because of run of the mill, backwards storylines. Sorry but TRPs to me are stupid, and if this show ends, then fine, and if it goes on I will be even HAPPIER, but I am not going to blame CVs for that, because I have been happy with the storytelling of this show as you know my viewpoints LOL, and I know they will end it well too, but I have to agree with actors when they don't look at TRPs because I understand that it matters more to them what kind of shows they are doing creatively rather than what becomes popular. Because frankly speaking what is popular in our country is ridiculous. I want to bow my head in shame when I see the TRP charts because shows like SNS and DABH are most popular. SIGH. I have reached DEK Nirvana, lol i was telling this to Kat and I think I told you before too, that I don't care about TRPs anymore, the fate of this show is not in my hands, so I will enjoy it as it is for me, entertainment. If this show ends, then I shall watch AK and PG in other shows, LOL and if it doesn't then even more fantastic, I get to see their rocking chemistry even more along with interesting storyline. LOL.


And lastly 5) I hope I did not make you mad dear with my venting??? LOL Sorry but I think I am out of patience with forum these days, not with DEK. I think the thing is Wendy I enjoy DEK more without forum comments than I do with them. Yes I have my few favorite people on the forum, but for the most part, I realized on my week long hiatus how much I enjoy the show without forum commentary. It was very LOVELY. I must say, so to be honest I am glad that I am on restrictions and have realized that my mother knows best, LOL. =) She is too AWESOME! =) She knows me better than I know myself SIGH. Yes I miss you guys a lot, but I also like my DEK nirvana state even better. My BP does not rise anymore because of not being forum for long, not because of watching DEK, I have realized. Perhaps for you it is the opposite dear sis, LOL, but my health demanded that I get my sanity back, lol. SIGH.

Anyways I am done with my bhashan, no need to say anything more. I think spoilers are enough Lol.

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