Manyata and her understanding:Intention to murder

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Manyata and her understanding:Intention to murder

Jayanandini tells Manyata that Udayveer killed Aakash. Manyata trusts her blindly, without investigation, probe, evidence etc. She is trusting the same Jayanandini who wanted to kill her.

Manyata knows that Jayanandini tried to kill her. Manyata heard it from the culprit. She has proof, confession, intention to murder everything. Yet she decides to let Jayanandini go scot-feee.

What can we say about Mantaya's Intentions. They are Cruel Intentions indeed. She conveniently bends logic and runs her own personal court where Proven Guilty will be allowed to live freely without any epithets, and those not proven guilty will be sentenced by her with the epithets that she is so pleased with. All because she wants to alleviate the one force who made it possible for her to achieve the power that she holds now.
Yes, my dear, we are discussing this content only from the point of view of POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS and DIPLOMACY and no personal aspirations that are impressed on us or expressed by the characters

Udayveer should hate Manyata for showing her true colors so soon. Her changing parties from Udayveer camp to Jaynandini camp should be deemed betrayal by him and he should think of her as his political adversary and leave no stone unturned in cutting off her power-supply. Good ! he is trying to cut her wings off with her new found power, by making her marry him.

Manyata has a darker mind than Uday to be truthfully speaking. She knows Uday's magnetic charm and power. And to keep herself independent, she can go to any extent to ruin him. Loving her family or for that matter loving anyone has never been Manyata's redeeming point. She is a compassionate person as long it does not compromise her Independent thinking, her trying to be above all in thinking. Infact this is how she won the competition also. In all the tests, she was just trying to assert herself in her own thinking. Some worked in her favour and some against her. Not that she was intelligent of deserving. Thinks worked in favour because her competitor Jaynandini was dumb. This has already been declared by Vijay Bhai.

Trusting responsibility to such an AUTOCRAT as Manyata is NOT GOOD for the Devgarh populace. In contrast Udayveer always sacrifices his personal demands before his responsibility. He is always thinking withing his limits of the position that he has to take care.

When are these psychological qualities going to be highlighted to the audience by the creatives ? Problem is Priyal Gore is a poor actor playing the role of Manyata. All she does is yell and make faces. She is not able to take us deep into the character Manyata's mental labyrinth. I feel Ankita Bhargava is so much better in bringing out subtleties of character. Because of these acting incapabilities and insensibilties, Udayveer's character is becoming unnecessarily dark, whereas in realistic terms he is just performing his duties and the audience clearly understands his grey matter in a very transparent manner. UV and his sister come out as so much in-depth characters when compared to Manyata and Jayanandini. Wish they asked Priyal Gore to act more suave and not ruin with her histrionics which infact is not doing any justice to her character and most of all does not help at this moment when we are supposed to see Manyata friendless yet indomitable lady to deal with. Because in reality, even if Udayveer is wanting to take care of his political responsibilities by ending his adversary's (Manyata in this case) in an effective manner, he cannot ignore the fact that Manyata is always going to be the SNAKE in his BED.

And the creatives actually should start focussing on JAIGARH ESTATE responsibilties now. Because audience will have to learn now what are Udayveer's responsibilties to his subjects and how he takes care of his princely duties. This should bring out the contrast between Udayveer and Manyata's estate management skills. This is also how Manyata is going to be redeemed if at all she has to grow character-wise in this story.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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very well said...somehow Manyata has forgotten that her own sister tries to kill her and that she is alive only coz of Uday. She has also very convienently forgotten that Uday said he loves her...hmmm selective memory madame Yuvrani???
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superbbb posts dear!!!👏
u pointed out very well things in Manyata's character i so very agree for actors participation in this matter...as actor brings the role to the audience keeps the attachment with her.which priyal failed to bring that in-depth attachment to the char. no doubt there is somewhere creative fault also to bring M's chara a step ahead than bring her back to square one still the subtley in some char is bought of acting skills which actor failed audience couldn't get attached to the char. as much as it should be...
i agree Jaigarh estate needs to be bought forefront now so this could be seen how UV handles prince duties so M could c ...UV char. i very agree responsible with his prince duties c things before himself...that where UV is serving with his duties with to his estate...where M wanted to runaway live a care-free life...that where she doesn't care of family also as when her independence she thinks will go away from her...she thought by getting this taj she will have everything plus a care-free life...where as she forget that with this she is more going towards with having responsibilties & duties..think for others before her own independency...
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i would like to raise some points.
when she was in chawl we saw innocense in her. initial she is not a suave character.
manyata is confused personality not suave one. initially what she does , she herself don't know consequances of her actions. when things doesn't turn in her favour she rebel like a typical teen.
manyata doesn't have shrewd or political brains , she is highly immature and emotional. the time she carried away with her emotions, no relationship , no responsibility matters for her. but its true she genuinely cares for others till they don't restrict her independence and freedom . he is a kind of person who loves independence and is scared of accepting change. In every phase she struggles hard to not change but her situation changes her. she trusts any one blindly. if she was so smart and suave she would not have been trapped in such a situation. like she trust UV and j blindly. she is unable to see larger picture of her actions but when that picture comes in front of her she do regret her actions. its just that she realized when reality hits her hard.
about switching sides with j, j has not betrayed her but told her that truth which was connected with her whole life. her purpose of being yuvraani was akash and now because of UV that purpose is finished. UV himself exaggerated thst he had made manyata a yuvraani because he wants to marry her. UV is right in his place and manayata in her.
just imagine 100 political schemes going around on you whether it was for your benefit or not.how trapped and irritated do you feel.
priyal perfectly showcase innocense and teenage rebellion tendencies of manyata. according to me she is great actor who is just of 17.
i don't find her bad. manyata's character has depth but cvs show her in this way. cvs never shows their female lead as shrewd and suave in any serial. i used to connect to that to her when she was in chawl and when she is not on with her akash jap. its not priyal's fault that cvs do not give her other lines rather then yelling. both UV and manyata character needs redemption as both of them have their flaws.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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I'd like to say,
Priyal does a fab job, for a young actress, she is impressive.
She can only express what shes allowed to express as per the script.
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I would have to disagree with few of our member posters. Priyal's acting skills are mediocre.

That is one of the primary reason why Moniya or now Manyata's innocence never comes across convincingly, nor explains how she can love Akash and her chawl people
even now (whom she knew just for a month) and royally ignores her family at all times if she had it going always per her choice. Wish Priyal enacts the tranquil state of happiness when she is with the chawl people, so atleast people like us do not lambast her for liking them. May be then we would have all understood what was the creatives idea behind introducing Akash character when we already have a convincing and appealing lead in Aashish Kapoor/Udayveer !!!

An innocent and loving person at heart never behaves in brattish manner. Because innocence means TRUSTING person. And clearly Manyata has issues with trusting people. She trusts people as per her convenience and her understanding of right and wrong.

If repeatedly it is about her convenience and her choices and her understanding of right and wrong, then she is no different from Jaynandini. She is also ingrained with selfishness and is self-centered and just bestowed with charitable temper as to have a heart for others after her demands are met.

But when her demands are not met, then Manyata is a vicious girl. Anyone remember her poisoning Udayveer with those allergic flowers. Innocent and compassionate persons, when seeing the other person suffer like that would melt. But Manyata rarely melts and keeps looking for small spaces where she can get her way.

All of this is Manyata's character with those extremes within the visible layer of bubbly, vivacious girl. If Udayveer is grey character, so is Manyata's. Why give her an excuse that she does not like shackles, caught and played by destiny or fate or is impulsive. Aren't all human beings in our daily life dealing with our shackles, needing to learn tact while dealing with family members or school mates, friends and later on with work-life and finally subjecting ourselves to our fate or destiny as want it to become..

But how far of these characteristic traits do we get to see onscreen ? To me when Manyata starts acting angry, it looks as if that is heights of acting incompetence. She just widens her eyes and starts making panting moments. We do not always widen eyes like we are enacting a drama on the stage when showing anger over the telescreen. Priyal needs to improve and bring out the Manyata the character, she is supposed to be..


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I am sorry, but priyal is nice actor.
its not her who yells and make faces. cvs make her do that.
manyata's behaviour is like a immature rebellious teen . she portrays her perfectly.actor is made with script.if UV's character is strong and ashish portrays it brilliantly that's why we love him.
just look at last days ie. april , no one has any qualms with manyata because her character was consistent but now cvs made it inconsistent and we started disliking manyata.
she behaves in selfish and brattish manner because she has been portrayed like a brat. what do you think cvs don't know that how manyata's character is shaping but they had done so because they had not make her complete sacrificial lamb like every other character.
manyata is a spoiled brat and yes not only me but ,many forum members connect with her during her initial chawl days after that cvs starts destroying her character. although i know priyal has a bit problem with voice modulation but that doesn't make her mediocre actor. she expresses all kind of emotions brilliantly
rest every one has their own opinions.

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Originally posted by: shridevigaddam

Manyata and her understanding:Intention to murder


Jayanandini tells Manyata that Udayveer killed Aakash. Manyata trusts her blindly, without investigation, probe, evidence etc. She is trusting the same Jayanandini who wanted to kill her.

Manyata knows that Jayanandini tried to kill her. Manyata heard it from the culprit. She has proof, confession, intention to murder everything. Yet she decides to let Jayanandini go scot-feee.

What can we say about Mantaya's Intentions. They are Cruel Intentions indeed. She conveniently bends logic and runs her own personal court where Proven Guilty will be allowed to live freely without any epithets, and those not proven guilty will be sentenced by her with the epithets that she is so pleased with. All because she wants to alleviate the one force who made it possible for her to achieve the power that she holds now.
Yes, my dear, we are discussing this content only from the point of view of POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS and DIPLOMACY and no personal aspirations that are impressed on us or expressed by the characters

Udayveer should hate Manyata for showing her true colors so soon. Her changing parties from Udayveer camp to Jaynandini camp should be deemed betrayal by him and he should think of her as his political adversary and leave no stone unturned in cutting off her power-supply. Good ! he is trying to cut her wings off with her new found power, by making her marry him.

Manyata has a darker mind than Uday to be truthfully speaking. She knows Uday's magnetic charm and power. And to keep herself independent, she can go to any extent to ruin him. Loving her family or for that matter loving anyone has never been Manyata's redeeming point. She is a compassionate person as long it does not compromise her Independent thinking, her trying to be above all in thinking. Infact this is how she won the competition also. In all the tests, she was just trying to assert herself in her own thinking. Some worked in her favour and some against her. Not that she was intelligent of deserving. Thinks worked in favour because her competitor Jaynandini was dumb. This has already been declared by Vijay Bhai.

Trusting responsibility to such an AUTOCRAT as Manyata is NOT GOOD for the Devgarh populace. In contrast Udayveer always sacrifices his personal demands before his responsibility. He is always thinking withing his limits of the position that he has to take care.

When are these psychological qualities going to be highlighted to the audience by the creatives ? Problem is Priyal Gore is a poor actor playing the role of Manyata. All she does is yell and make faces. She is not able to take us deep into the character Manyata's mental labyrinth. I feel Ankita Bhargava is so much better in bringing out subtleties of character. Because of these acting incapabilities and insensibilties, Udayveer's character is becoming unnecessarily dark, whereas in realistic terms he is just performing his duties and the audience clearly understands his grey matter in a very transparent manner. UV and his sister come out as so much in-depth characters when compared to Manyata and Jayanandini. Wish they asked Priyal Gore to act more suave and not ruin with her histrionics which infact is not doing any justice to her character and most of all does not help at this moment when we are supposed to see Manyata friendless yet indomitable lady to deal with. Because in reality, even if Udayveer is wanting to take care of his political responsibilities by ending his adversary's (Manyata in this case) in an effective manner, he cannot ignore the fact that Manyata is always going to be the SNAKE in his BED.

And the creatives actually should start focussing on JAIGARH ESTATE responsibilties now. Because audience will have to learn now what are Udayveer's responsibilties to his subjects and how he takes care of his princely duties. This should bring out the contrast between Udayveer and Manyata's estate management skills. This is also how Manyata is going to be redeemed if at all she has to grow character-wise in this story.

I agree with most of your analysis.
manyata's character is so flawed that in respect to that Uday come's off clean as a white starched shirt. He has his flaws but he never hides them. He plays politics, but most of them is for the betterment of the jaigad estate. He has learnt right at the start that to get something he has to sacrifice something - mostly himself. If for some unknown reason J would have managed to become the yuvrani then Uday would have married her inspite of desperately loving manyata - not because he would get something in return - but simply because it would be the best thinng for the jaigad estate. There would have been no tantrums, no daggabazi, no narey, just plain and simple 'yes dad, ill marry her.'He would sacrifice his own happiness for that of his family. The depth with which the CV's have created his character, the many layers that his charcter portrays is just unbelievable. He is a friend, a lover, a son, a brother, and also a formidable enemy, an antagonist, a protagonist, a hero, a villain, an opportunist and a politician. And yet, you fall in love with him.
In contrast, I have never seen the CV's developin akash's character and I myself have wondered regarding the role he plays in this entire drama. He is too dull to be an antagonist and too weak to be a protagonist. He is a true friend, but the depth of his friendship has never been tested. He is a true lover, but then most of the time you fail to understand what exactly he loves in moniya - her bubbly nature and her vivaciousness? if that is the case, the love is too superficial, - or her conniving and sly mind which will use the other person as per her needs? I mosly think he doesnt know her well enough to know that. As for moniya, I think the most she loves in akash is that he never presents a challenge to her. He is non-comittal, boring, the type of guy she can mold to the way she thinks. He will never say no to her and that is what she loves the most about him.
All in all, i think Uday steals the show, he is the soul of the show up until this point. Although what i think is, this is the time, they will show the character developement in manyata that will enable her to be an able maharani. and i think uday will help her to do so. although it would be in a way that she wouldnt understand. But then again, with the supposed return of akash, i have no idea where this show is going. I am confused and my brain goes haywire when i try to put a logical conclusion to all this.
thanks for the awsome post.
P.S: I stiill donot think it is priyal gor's fault. It is the charcater that is immature and flawed. amd the reason we dont see her showing a softness when she is with the chawl people and akash is because i dont think she really has any left. But she is too stubborn to admit it. That is the way her character is. Stubborn and spoilt and unwilling to accept what is right in front of her face.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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yeahhh ...very well said dear...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well said dear,I m agree with u bt... I think priyal has improved...nd dont want 2 put da all blame on her 4 bad characterization of m. Its actually cv's mistake.
Edited by 2012titli - 13 years ago

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