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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sajni786

Pinksss🤗...OK a very interesting topic...and let me try to see n verse out J's state of mind for u...Not that I am defending her or even justifying her...she is dark...very dark...but today wat she did is as u said...totally inhumane...and like u...even I want to know why she did wat she did??? Is is just BR's genes overshadowing Komal's...or is it just her insecurity??

Well the answer is her desparate need to be loved...to be considered a human herself. Growing up in an environment where ur own blood neglects u...does not shower the attention...the love she desires is killing...its a slow poision. Its enough to kill the human inside u n die down that beating heart in u coz u are indirectly told u are not worth it...that u are just not capable or deserving of that same love n attention that Manyata can get. UV is no better...time and again he rubs that on her face tho not directly maybe...but again indirectly that she is not deserving of his love.
U know wat the worst part in all this is????? When things are told to u INDIRECTLY. When its just scrubbled at u for u to figure out and understand it all by urself. The gloominess of the puzzle gets to u like no other n u feel a cringe in u worse than a thousand knives stabbing u in ur gut!!
Am not saying J is right...but m just saying why she ignored that bleeding man fighting for his life...She didnt actually ignore him...she ignored her own mirror image in that man who was fighting for life...for care...for concern just like she is. She is ignoring her own self n hiding behind the only things she has got...and that is her outside beauty n her attitude. She has masked the human inside her with this fake wall coz the human in her wants love...only love n attention...from DS...from Komal...from UV.
Just look at her...she looks at them with so much desparatness...with such desiring eyes as if she is looking for genuine love...and each time they fail her. They dont smile at her achievements...they dont wait for her ...they dont yearn her and her heart shatters all over again. Today too...when she arrived earlier than Manyata...the first thing she asked UV..."u were waiting for me right"...she somewhere knew he was not...but she wished he truly from his heart wud say a YES...when she came inside...she happily announced her achievement...n yet she didnt see smiles on DS's face nor Komal's face...not even an acknowledgement that she has arrived...and she knew...they were not waiting for her...but she hoped that she does not have to hear that one more time.
NO I dont feel for J...but I do get her mental state...She has been pushed over the limits...she had been pushed into the dark...into the world where love...humanness...caring means nothing...and thats why she will only deteoriate further from here on...SAD...very SAD!!...
Will she ever gain redemption...I say ppl like her need to first be able to trust their own heart n be able to hope...only then can they ever trust other people when they geniunely shower love on her. And I guess u know better...ppl without hope are sketals without a soul...and that's JAYNANDINI for u!!!!


agree with you but what about VB ?
is he had also betrayed her? ignored her?
so why that sarcastic laugh over the guy you called you best friend, your co schemer, your BROTHER. its just that she doesn't know how to treat different people.
komal is not ignoring , she is fair. but does komal doesn't have a bit right to remember her long lost daughter. as about brijraj, he always was there for her. he is heck bent on making her yuvrani. DS, she loved her but j doesn't have capability to understanding that love .
all she sees that manyata is getting love,what about that love and attention she gets in her missing years. j needs to get a life. she always want what manyata has , her fiance , her estate , her position of elder daughter. she was treated as manyata's shadow because she willingly wants to be her shadow like a spare. she never tries to be JAINANDINI at all.
her heart is filled up of hatred for manyata that doesn't let anyone's love and affection to reach her heart as its pre occupied. nobody can help her as she needs to help herself.
UV and j are alike but UV is not desperate like hers.
forget stranger, she doesn't even give a two crap before insulting VB.
she lacks acceptance toward situation. she knows every thing but is scared to accept that.
she was given fair chance by ds, not to show her unworthiness but show her worthiness. she lost it. about seeing her reflection in injured guy , then according to me she should help some him
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: wendy25


agree with you but what about VB ?
is he had also betrayed her? ignored her?
so why that sarcastic laugh over the guy you called you best friend, your co schemer, your BROTHER. its just that she doesn't know how to treat different people.
komal is not ignoring , she is fair. but does komal doesn't have a bit right to remember her long lost daughter. as about brijraj, he always was there for her. he is heck bent on making her yuvrani. DS, she loved her but j doesn't have capability to understanding that love .
all she sees that manyata is getting love,what about that love and attention she gets in her missing years. j needs to get a life. she always want what manyata has , her fiance , her estate , her position of elder daughter. she was treated as manyata's shadow because she willingly wants to be her shadow like a spare. she never tries to be JAINANDINI at all.
her heart is filled up of hatred for manyata that doesn't let anyone's love and affection to reach her heart as its pre occupied. nobody can help her as she needs to help herself.
UV and j are alike but UV is not desperate like hers.
forget stranger, she doesn't even give a two crap before insulting VB.
she lacks acceptance toward situation. she knows every thing but is scared to accept that.
she was given fair chance by ds, not to show her unworthiness but show her worthiness. she lost it. about seeing her reflection in injured guy , then according to me she should help some him

nice discussion...
Well let me put it this way...she didnt technically laugh at VB...she rather laughed at menaka for bringing him in between this race for the throne coz if u look at that scene...just a while ago...menaka was all patting J's back telling her that she is all in her support...she never mentioned or even gave that hint to J that she wanted VB in this race of throne as well. So all of sudden she brings him...again thats a back fire of the concern her bua showed to her a while ago. Its like here's another person who fakes love n conern to her. She is upset in VB also...coz yes he has always been her side kick...her BFF...but then being that BFF for her...why did he not ever tell J that he too may be interested in the throne. He has always lead her to believe that he will always be a good support but not the ring master himself. Its like all she gets in the name of friends n family is fakeness.
Now m not saying thats the actual scenario...but this is how J thinks...this is her perspective ...her viewpoint of looking at things...
Like I said...she first needs to trust herself n have that hope in her alive...only then can she appreciate n trust love ...care ...concern n support of those that really do shower it on her genuinely...in that includes VB and Komal.
Dont get surprised if tomorrow BR is also going to enter that category...when she learns that BR supported her only for his own benefits...for that deal he wanted to get signed...and not coz he genuinely loved her as his daughter. M not saying thats going to happen...but its how things get portrayed to her...and with her lack of trust n hope within her...she is bound to see things from a whole another angle.
Agreed DS gave her a fair chance to prove her worthiness...but then why didnt she atleast smile back at her when Jay was all in her happy bubble that she won the third round. FIne in actuality she didnt win...but just for acknowledgement of her happiness...the least DS cud have done was smile back at her...and then very calmly explained to her that she wud have loved to continue to smile on had she really won the round. But NO...DS totally made it look like she was not happy seeing her...like she really wasnt wanting for her to win or even waiting for her...DS knows her grand daughter n very well knows wat she will be bound to think...so why not stop her from such negative thots...
Did u see how she kept on reiterating on that question "DS why arent u looking happy...why arent u smiling"...Somewhere deep down she has lost hope in DS n thats why she questions her love...she questions her genuinity.
Jay has lost the basic factor to live a life...and that is to HOPE...to have FAITH...and wen that is missing...u begin to look at everything n everyone with skeptical eyes.
Dont get me wrong...m not justifying J here...neither m I defending her...n m not definitely saying she not ugly inside...selfish...rude...etc etc...All that she most certainly is...but wat m trying to say is why she became like that...Why she has this personality that she has??? She wasn't born like dat was she??? Infact no child is born bad like that...but its the situations...the circumstances and most crucially ...the upbringing by the parents during its initial years , and I stress upon that INITIAL YEARS HERE...that moulds a child's character...personality and the future. And here...I cannot commend of the upbringing of the royal family towards J...they have been unfair with her...and situations n circumstances simply added on.
Jay is nothing but a mere victim of all that...her's is a very sad story.Ouch
PS. I hope u got wat I was trying to say😳
Edited by sajni786 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Brilliant post!!!!👍🏼
And your bang on right!!!😛
I always felt a bit sorry for jay but that episode ended it!!!
shes just a selfish spoiled brat 🤔
xxx


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Your posts always leave me in deep thoughts and the way you present your thoughts and analysis is truly commendable 👏

No matter how much self-centered,egoistic,dark and shallow JN is she always had my pity and hatred (wierd combo..i know 😛) but being so irresponsible,selfish,coldhearted was beyond limit..😡 For Heaven's sake she's a princess and has the capability to influence anybody's mind,heart and soul which is the biggest power of all 😕 Only if she used that ability for the right reason and not for threatening someone to marry her..alas!!maybe I was expecting to much from a princess with oh-so cruel heart Given she has genes of Mrinalini Devi who always held the responsibility of being a royal high and Komal who is so helpful and sensitive..JaiNandni proved she is daughter of noone but Brijraj who is just as ruthless and callous 🤢
So Ironical that a beautiful princess like her has a heart soo dark,unweening and flawed 👎🏼
P.S:Your post:Awesome (as always) Example you gave: Bang On! Great work!! 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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nice discussion...
Well let me put it this way...she didnt technically laugh at VB...she rather laughed at menaka for bringing him in between this race for the throne coz if u look at that scene...just a while ago...menaka was all patting J's back telling her that she is all in her support...she never mentioned or even gave that hint to J that she wanted VB in this race of throne as well. So all of sudden she brings him...again thats a back fire of the concern her bua showed to her a while ago. Its like here's another person who fakes love n conern to her. She is upset in VB also...coz yes he has always been her side kick...her BFF...but then being that BFF for her...why did he not ever tell J that he too may be interested in the throne. He has always lead her to believe that he will always be a good support but not the ring master himself. Its like all she gets in the name of friends n family is fakeness.
Now m not saying thats the actual scenario...but this is how J thinks...this is her perspective ...her viewpoint of looking at things...
Like I said...she first needs to trust herself n have that hope in her alive...only then can she appreciate n trust love ...care ...concern n support of those that really do shower it on her genuinely...in that includes VB and Komal.
Dont get surprised if tomorrow BR is also going to enter that category...when she learns that BR supported her only for his own benefits...for that deal he wanted to get signed...and not coz he genuinely loved her as his daughter. M not saying thats going to happen...but its how things get portrayed to her...and with her lack of trust n hope within her...she is bound to see things from a whole another angle.
Agreed DS gave her a fair chance to prove her worthiness...but then why didnt she atleast smile back at her when Jay was all in her happy bubble that she won the third round. FIne in actuality she didnt win...but just for acknowledgement of her happiness...the least DS cud have done was smile back at her...and then very calmly explained to her that she wud have loved to continue to smile on had she really won the round. But NO...DS totally made it look like she was not happy seeing her...like she really wasnt wanting for her to win or even waiting for her...DS knows her grand daughter n very well knows wat she will be bound to think...so why not stop her from such negative thots...
Did u see how she kept on reiterating on that question "DS why arent u looking happy...why arent u smiling"...Somewhere deep down she has lost hope in DS n thats why she questions her love...she questions her genuinity.
Jay has lost the basic factor to live a life...and that is to HOPE...to have FAITH...and wen that is missing...u begin to look at everything n everyone with skeptical eyes.
Dont get me wrong...m not justifying J here...neither m I defending her...n m not definitely saying she not ugly inside...selfish...rude...etc etc...All that she most certainly is...but wat m trying to say is why she became like that...Why she has this personality that she has??? She wasn't born like dat was she??? Infact no child is born bad like that...but its the situations...the circumstances and most crucially ...the upbringing by the parents during its initial years , and I stress upon that INITIAL YEARS HERE...that moulds a child's character...personality and the future. And here...I cannot commend of the upbringing of the royal family towards J...they have been unfair with her...and situations n circumstances simply added on.
Jay is nothing but a mere victim of all that...her's is a very sad story.
PS. I hope u got wat I was trying to say😳

I don't think you can play the victim of circumstances and upbringing card with Jai every time she acts like a total brat. Then all the murderers and treacherers must also be given a chance to defend themselves on grounds of their upbringing even after proving their crimes beyond doubt. The thing is JaiNandhini is no longer a child. When you are a child you have parents who do what is in your best interest. Some do a good job and some not so good. But when you grow up, you make your own choices that will define you as a person, give you your identity. It is absolutely no one but you who decide which facet of humanity you want to represent. If she was an ignored child who was treated second best to an invisible older sister during her upbringing, she was also given an education of the best quality that must have given her ample opportunity to mold her character, teach her ways of the world.

Certain actions are not acceptable even in the most desperate of situations. And especially for a person with a title, there's a higher moral responsibility to do the right thing than an average Joe. Yesterday's episode clearly showed that she's totally undeserving of the title of Rajkumari, let alone Yuvrani. The epitome of nazakat and tehzeeb that she claimed herself to be was definitely not what I saw when she impertinently called herself the to-be-yuvrani before announcing the winner or called her sister names infront of all the invited guests.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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AWESOME post!!!!!😊 Loved reading it!!! J is just a stubborn creature!😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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nice discussion...
Well let me put it this way...she didnt technically laugh at VB...she rather laughed at menaka for bringing him in between this race for the throne coz if u look at that scene...just a while ago...menaka was all patting J's back telling her that she is all in her support...she never mentioned or even gave that hint to J that she wanted VB in this race of throne as well. So all of sudden she brings him...again thats a back fire of the concern her bua showed to her a while ago. Its like here's another person who fakes love n conern to her. She is upset in VB also...coz yes he has always been her side kick...her BFF...but then being that BFF for her...why did he not ever tell J that he too may be interested in the throne. He has always lead her to believe that he will always be a good support but not the ring master himself. Its like all she gets in the name of friends n family is fakeness.
Now m not saying thats the actual scenario...but this is how J thinks...this is her perspective ...her viewpoint of looking at things...
Like I said...she first needs to trust herself n have that hope in her alive...only then can she appreciate n trust love ...care ...concern n support of those that really do shower it on her genuinely...in that includes VB and Komal.
Dont get surprised if tomorrow BR is also going to enter that category...when she learns that BR supported her only for his own benefits...for that deal he wanted to get signed...and not coz he genuinely loved her as his daughter. M not saying thats going to happen...but its how things get portrayed to her...and with her lack of trust n hope within her...she is bound to see things from a whole another angle.
Agreed DS gave her a fair chance to prove her worthiness...but then why didnt she atleast smile back at her when Jay was all in her happy bubble that she won the third round. FIne in actuality she didnt win...but just for acknowledgement of her happiness...the least DS cud have done was smile back at her...and then very calmly explained to her that she wud have loved to continue to smile on had she really won the round. But NO...DS totally made it look like she was not happy seeing her...like she really wasnt wanting for her to win or even waiting for her...DS knows her grand daughter n very well knows wat she will be bound to think...so why not stop her from such negative thots...
Did u see how she kept on reiterating on that question "DS why arent u looking happy...why arent u smiling"...Somewhere deep down she has lost hope in DS n thats why she questions her love...she questions her genuinity.
Jay has lost the basic factor to live a life...and that is to HOPE...to have FAITH...and wen that is missing...u begin to look at everything n everyone with skeptical eyes.
Dont get me wrong...m not justifying J here...neither m I defending her...n m not definitely saying she not ugly inside...selfish...rude...etc etc...All that she most certainly is...but wat m trying to say is why she became like that...Why she has this personality that she has??? She wasn't born like dat was she??? Infact no child is born bad like that...but its the situations...the circumstances and most crucially ...the upbringing by the parents during its initial years , and I stress upon that INITIAL YEARS HERE...that moulds a child's character...personality and the future. And here...I cannot commend of the upbringing of the royal family towards J...they have been unfair with her...and situations n circumstances simply added on.
Jay is nothing but a mere victim of all that...her's is a very sad story.
PS. I hope u got wat I was trying to say😳

I don't think you can play the victim of circumstances and upbringing card with Jai every time she acts like a total brat. Then all the murderers and treacherers must also be given a chance to defend themselves on grounds of their upbringing even after proving their crimes beyond doubt. The thing is JaiNandhini is no longer a child. When you are a child you have parents who do what is in your best interest. Some do a good job and some not so good. But when you grow up, you make your own choices that will define you as a person, give you your identity. It is absolutely no one but you who decide which facet of humanity you want to represent. If she was an ignored child who was treated second best to an invisible older sister during her upbringing, she was also given an education of the best quality that must have given her ample opportunity to mold her character, teach her ways of the world.

Certain actions are not acceptable even in the most desperate of situations. And especially for a person with a title, there's a higher moral responsibility to do the right thing than an average Joe. Yesterday's episode clearly showed that she's totally undeserving of the title of Rajkumari, let alone Yuvrani. The epitome of nazakat and tehzeeb that she claimed herself to be was definitely not what I saw when she impertinently called herself the to-be-yuvrani before announcing the winner or called her sister names infront of all the invited guests.


i agree with you totally ,
about VB she said all those humiliating words in front of every body that he is is incapable of competing ,you would notice if you again watch episode.
forget it whatever she feels, she even't once think that those words might hurt him.
she doesn't need a companion or friend, all she needs is followers. she want a world in which every thing is about her.
agreed she is attention seeker because she was deprived from it in her initial days.but she has given best education.what the hell is use of that world best education if it is unable to make you human. UV is a raised tyrant. he does every thing that was expected from him.
but j doesn't have such responsibility. she can live her life to its best.instead of bitching about her sister in all those years if she even once tried to feel sympathy for her or tried to console her family rather than being wannabe manyata then her position would be something else.
i know she doesn't help that man because she doesn't want to loose this chance , but manyata was also left with that only chance.
her conscious is dead. she doesn't have a single thought that that man is going to DIE.
agree with your point fam26,
this upbringing card can also be played by terrorists and murderers . they are also raised in such surroundings.
after becoming adult,
you are the one who decide write or wrong. parents are responsible of a brat child but j is not longer a child, she is grown up adult. she should know to use her education, but it seems like education is wasted on her. if this is the reason than orphans are also ignored but they grew up into nice human beings because they use their educational moral values proprly.
i don't know , if i am making sense or not but this is what i think.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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FORGET TAJ MASSACRE CASE...WHAT ABOUT THE JESSICA LAL ONE!?!?!? 300 HUNDRED PEOPLE DID NOT HAVE THE BALLS TO SAY ANYTHING. NOT A FRICKIN WORD!!! WHY? OH RIGHT, THEIR OWN LIVES AND PETTY ISSUES AND PETTY ELITE SUPERFICIAL PARTIES WERE MORE IMPORTANT..the rot of humanity is such that sometimes i don't understand what is the difference between us and animals...i am saying this cause of incidents like the tandoor case in india..the rizwaan murder case...women get sexually exploited everyday in mumbai...as if its normal daily routine...the nazi massacre..the french revolution...the holocaust...everything makes me think that even with the gift of logic reasoning and sense..we are no different from lions , tigers , snakes and panthers. seriously.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Why is everyone pointing fingers at Jay, fine i get it she's evil but its not her fault. Her parents never taught her good values since it was more important to be lost in Manyata's memory lol. She just left a person dying on the road because she didn't have a heart as it's parents responsibility to teach moral values which they haven't to Jay, but she bash anyone unlike Uday, so its ok if Uday kills Akash lol...weird I tell you
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Posted: 13 years ago
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nice post...i tell you😉
Edited by cherry... - 13 years ago

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