DOTW~Appearance Reforms Or Deforms~2nd-8th Apr

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Posted: 13 years ago
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'Appearance Reforms Or Deforms'..

Hello DEK Forum Members...We Know That 'Dekha Ek Khwaab' Is Going Towards It's Main Element, The Journey Of A Normal Chawl Girl, To A Princess Is Just About To Begin..With The Journey We Know That We Are Also Going To Have The Much Awaited Makeover Of The Lead Actress Of DEK, From 'Moniya To Manyata'..So This Weeks DOTW Is As Simple As It Can Get, 'Appearance Reforms Or Deforms'..Here Are Some Points You Can Discuss On This Weeks DOTW...

1) Leave The Show Aside, As A Real Person In Everyday Life, Do You Think Appearance Matters..We Meet Many People, Interact With Them On A Daily Basis, We Also Have Various Comments To Make About Others Appearances, So I Want To Know From You Guys, Why Is Appearance So Important...Why Is It That Each Time You Leave Your House, You Make Sure You Look Presentable...Why Is It That We Take So Much Of Effort To Look Good, Why Do We Give Our Appearance So Much Of Importance..

2) Is Appearance Only Linked To The Way One Person Looks...Is Appearance Only Restricted To Looks... When We Think About A Person Does The Parameter Of Appearance Go Beyond, Just How The Person Looks...According To Your Personal Opinion, Does Appearance, Break The Confines & Restrictions Of Just The Looks...What Is Your Take On Appearance...What Difference Does Appearance Make...

3) Do You Think Appearance Reforms Or Deforms..By Reforms I Mean, Take The Show 'Dekha Ek Khwaab', Which Is At A Point Where The Lead Actress Is About To Undergo A Makeover, Which Will Not Only Change The Way She Looks But Also The Way She Thinks...So Keeping In View Moniya/Manyata & Her Makeover In Mind, Do You Think When You Change Your Appearance, The Way You Look, You Become A Better Person, Or You Become More Confident As You Know You Look Good & People Cannot Ignore You...On The Other Hand Do You Think A Makeover Of Your Appearance Deforms You As A Person, It Does Not Let You Be, What You Actually Want To Be..Do You Think Looking Good In The Sense Of Appearance Makes You Stand Just As One In The Crowd, But Not Stand Out...

4) So Manyata Is Going To Have A Complete Makeover, So My Question To All Of You Is, Does Just A Mere Change In Your Look, Change Your Perspective & Way Of Thinking, Does It Make You Confident, Does A Change In The Way You Look Make You Stand Out..& If You Think A Change In The Way You Look, A Change In Your Appearance Has A Positive Impact On The Way You Talk, The Way You Walk, The Way You Present Yourself, Then I Want To Know Why Is It So...What Difference Does A Mere Appearance Make, You Are Who You Are, Yeh Appearance Ka Kya Funda Hai...

5) Ab Mera Joh Sawaal Hai, It Is Directed To Who Are You, With In Yourself...So Guys Do You Think Manyata's Makeover, A Change In Manyata's Appearance Will Change What Manyata Is On The Inside Too...Will Just Her Appearance Change The Kind Off Good Hearted Person Manyata Actually Is..On A General Level, Think That You Have A Makeover, So When You Have A Makeover Does It Change The Person You Are By Your Heart, Mind, Body & Soul...

6) Manyata Is On The Road Which Leads Her To Look Like A Whole New Person, Altogether In Her Appearance, As An Audience Do You Think You Will Like To See Manyata On-Screen More Often, With A Sense Of Satisfaction & Happiness, Just Because She Looks More Polished & Sophisticated...If Yes, Then Doesn't It Make Us Hypocrites, Who Like To See The Actors On TV Only When They Are Shown With A Image Of Larger Than Life..& With Their Posh, Sophisticated Attitude...& If No, Then My Question To All Of You Is, How Do You Even Tolerate Moniya In Her Jungle Queen Attitude...Hehehe...

7) & Finally For The Last Discussion Point Of The Week, Do You Think The Impact Of Princess Manyata, After The Makeover, Which Is Going Come Across To The Audience, Will Be Greater Than That Off The Impact Of Manyata Being The Princess In Moniya Mode Without A Makeover, Would Have Had...Do You Think Manyata's Makeover Is So Vital In The Show... Why Is Manyata's Makeover A Stepping Stone In The Show 'Dekha Ek Khwaab'...& Do You Think Manyata's Makeover Will Make Her A Better Person Or Change Her For The Worse..& Last But Not The Least, What Impact Will The Makeover Of Manyata, Have On The Show 'Dekha Ek Khwaab' As A Whole...

Enjoy Participating In The Discussion Of The Week...Appearance Reforms Or Deforms...Have Fun...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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To me appearance matters and it matters a lot!

It presents a difference between someone who is approachable and someone with whom you would just want to be associated with a brief hi and hello!

Appearance speaks volumes about a person's personality. A person with a better appearance gives an impression that I do take time out to prepare myself that is I believe in detail orientation. It also gives the onlookers the impression that a person is serious about what they are doing.

For example; you would make a good impression if dressed in a business attire while going for a job interview. Wearing boots etc if going hiking... just shows that you are mentally and physically involved in whatever you are doing at the moment. Plus, as people say that first impression is the last impression so one should try to leave a good first impression on others... and appearance plays a key role there!

And whatever you use your appearance to Reform or Deform your image is entirely in your hands and can go both ways.


Example; people are more likely to take Manyata seriously if she dresses and behaves like a princess rather than a spoiled brat crying for a toy.
Edited by mahi0809 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Surya.Ravi


1) Why Is It That We Take So Much Of Effort To Look Good, Why Do We Give Our Appearance So Much Of Importance..

I think its more to do with our own insecurities ,reason why we give so much importance to our appearance ...If we belong to a royal family or if we belong to a rich or upper middle class family ,we feel its a certain responsibility to carry yourself well appearance wise because our look ,our costume ,our presense will b talked about in media or friend circle and so the whole thing becomes a part of our duty to look and appear classy so that our overall image in society remains intact ...the whole obsession of looking good is not much in middle class or mayb a family who consider themselves poor because they dont hv any such responsibilities or insecurities ...

2) Is Appearance Only Linked To The Way One Person Looks...Is Appearance Only Restricted To Looks... When We Think About A Person Does The Parameter Of Appearance Go Beyond, Just How The Person Looks...According To Your Personal Opinion, Does Appearance, Break The Confines & Restrictions Of Just The Looks...What Is Your Take On Appearance...What Difference Does Appearance Make...
I think Appearance is more about how you carry yourself in front of all with a particular look ..you can look royal and classy even in a simply outfit provided you r confidently carrying yourself with full grace and personality ..and you can end up looking OTT even in a royal outfit if u r not confdident or comfortable in that particular look or outfit ...So Appearance is not just restricted to physical look ,but its more to do with your confidence and overall personality ...

3) Do You Think Appearance Reforms Or Deforms..By Reforms I Mean, Take The Show 'Dekha Ek Khwaab', Which Is At A Point Where The Lead Actress Is About To Undergo A Makeover, Which Will Not Only Change The Way She Looks But Also The Way She Thinks...So Keeping In View Moniya/Manyata & Her Makeover In Mind, Do You Think When You Change Your Appearance, The Way You Look, You Become A Better Person, Or You Become More Confident As You Know You Look Good & People Cannot Ignore You...On The Other Hand Do You Think A Makeover Of Your Appearance Deforms You As A Person, It Does Not Let You Be, What You Actually Want To Be..Do You Think Looking Good In The Sense Of Appearance Makes You Stand Just As One In The Crowd, But Not Stand Out...
Appearance definitely reforms if its done with one's consent ...if one is willing to change his/her overall personality for the betterment of her future then appearance plays a cruicial role ...but if its done with force then it deforms one's overall personality ...Manyata's makeover will reform herself is she herself is willing to undergo this change ...

4) So Manyata Is Going To Have A Complete Makeover, So My Question To All Of You Is, Does Just A Mere Change In Your Look, Change Your Perspective & Way Of Thinking, Does It Make You Confident, Does A Change In The Way You Look Make You Stand Out..& If You Think A Change In The Way You Look, A Change In Your Appearance Has A Positive Impact On The Way You Talk, The Way You Walk, The Way You Present Yourself, Then I Want To Know Why Is It So...What Difference Does A Mere Appearance Make, You Are Who You Are, Yeh Appearance Ka Kya Funda Hai...
Both physical change and mental growth r needed to have a complete makeover of your personality ..just a change in the way u look ,might put a temporary mask on your face for sometime but in the long run your mental growth will decide whether makeover was actually successful or not ...same stands true for Manyata too ,she needs both physical change and mental growth for a complete makeover ...

5) Ab Mera Joh Sawaal Hai, It Is Directed To Who Are You, With In Yourself...So Guys Do You Think Manyata's Makeover, A Change In Manyata's Appearance Will Change What Manyata Is On The Inside Too...Will Just Her Appearance Change The Kind Off Good Hearted Person Manyata Actually Is..On A General Level, Think That You Have A Makeover, So When You Have A Makeover Does It Change The Person You Are By Your Heart, Mind, Body & Soul...
I think no makeover can change a person's basic nature ...so Manyata's basic nature will remain intact ..she might change her look ,her style of walking-talking-eating ...she might even develop some maturity in her thinking ..but her basic nature which mostly shows that she has got a soft heart will remain the same

6) Manyata Is On The Road Which Leads Her To Look Like A Whole New Person, Altogether In Her Appearance, As An Audience Do You Think You Will Like To See Manyata On-Screen More Often, With A Sense Of Satisfaction & Happiness, Just Because She Looks More Polished & Sophisticated...If Yes, Then Doesn't It Make Us Hypocrites, Who Like To See The Actors On TV Only When They Are Shown With A Image Of Larger Than Life..& With Their Posh, Sophisticated Attitude...& If No, Then My Question To All Of You Is, How Do You Even Tolerate Moniya In Her Jungle Queen Attitude...Hehehe...
I dont mind seeing Manyata in any sort of dress whether its the royal princess outfits or these curent sack type of suits as long as her character is not butchered every episode ..My whole issue is with the inconsistency of this character ...few weeks back she was taught so many manner by Vijay bhai dring 3 months training track but once again she is back to her chawl mode which proves that 3 months training was a complete waste and this is where I hv an issue with her character which keeps going back and forth from Moniya to Manyata and vice versa ..there is no proper growth in her character ...

7) & Finally For The Last Discussion Point Of The Week, Do You Think The Impact Of Princess Manyata, After The Makeover, Which Is Going Come Across To The Audience, Will Be Greater Than That Off The Impact Of Manyata Being The Princess In Moniya Mode Without A Makeover, Would Have Had...Do You Think Manyata's Makeover Is So Vital In The Show... Why Is Manyata's Makeover A Stepping Stone In The Show 'Dekha Ek Khwaab'...& Do You Think Manyata's Makeover Will Make Her A Better Person Or Change Her For The Worse..& Last But Not The Least, What Impact Will The Makeover Of Manyata, Have On The Show 'Dekha Ek Khwaab' As A Whole...
I guess the impact will not change much if she continues to b same stubborn girl even with a princess look because the main issue with her character is the way she is behaving with her family which lacks logic ...the way she does Akash jaap without even thinking once about her family's reputation ...unless all these changes come in her ,a physical makeover wont hv much impact ...but yes ,if along with her look ,a change is given to her overall personality and way of thinking as well ,it will definitely create a huge impact then ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Wonderful Discussion Surya 👏👏👏👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Surya very good discussion topic... Yes... each person has different take on this. Let me start this with questions myself.
1. Can any of us ready to walk in to a shopping mall in our night clothes just to prove that I have the buying powers?
2. Can any one of us ready to walk into a corporate meeting in bermuda's just to prove that whatever clothes I wear, however I talk, junglee whatever I am, but my ideas are brilliant?
3. Is anybody ready to walk into a marriage hall in ragged clothes just because the groom is very close friend of me?
If NO... we got the answer for the necessity of Manyatha's makeover...
If YES... then I would I say that you have already that social status, where, what you do, how you behave doesnt make any difference because you have already achieved, means you have your own identity, you have proved yourself, you are yourself a brand. And my dear friends... only very few people in this world have reached that status.
Having a good/golden heart or brilliant ideas doesnt mean that people will listen to you. Only when the good/golden heart is used at the right place for right cause it is appreciated. Also a brilliant idea will be given due respect when it is heard by the right people, people with money, powers and status to accept it and make the necessary changes. Now having said about right people-right cause, I have few pointers in this regard.
As we all belong to a well evolved human race😃, which includes many societies, each with its own norms, etiquities, dos-donts, to be accepted by any society, we need to be part of it. Which starts with dressing like others, behaviours, thinking like others. Offcourse each person is unique. Just by wearing the clothes and changing the behaviour a person can not be considered as capable. Its the person's ability to think, execute matters. And to me a person's thinking ability, prespective, beliefs and choices greatly depends on our education, grooming, people with whom we interact.
There were few posts in the forum that Manyatha's heart is in the right place. Let me make my point clear here. According to me both her brains and heart are not in right place. She has biased heart/brain, I mean for certain issues, regarding Akash family she responds a lot. But when it comes to her own family I dont see much committment there. Well her friend is missing and she doesnt have any clue and she is hell bent on finding about his whereabouts. Her cause is right, but approach is not correct. She left the family saying that she doesnt want them, there title or rajgaddi, then why in that case, she has to turns up at the police station telling the inspector that she is princess manyatha. Dont you think that she has double standards, a hypocrite, who uses her title, power when its required and trashes when she doesnt want? Well all said and done, education, grooming and social cirlcle makes a lot of difference in shaping up a person.
For example, consider few members of this forum itself... pinkchocolate's reviews are written in pink colour and Surya's reviews are not paragraphed. I call it their appearance. But the contents of the posts define their ideas, thoughts and maturity which has given each a unique identity. No offence intended towards anybody😊
Well...bottomline is appearance makes a person to be noticed and accepted into a society. But our ideas, choices help us to make a mark in any walk of life.
Cheers,
Rekha
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Posted: 13 years ago
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wow Surya! I am itching to write in my answers! Amazing DOTW! Reading the replies would be great fun! I'll come back later for my detailed reply!
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Leave The Show Aside, As A Real Person In Everyday Life, Do You Think Appearance Matters..We Meet Many People, Interact With Them On A Daily Basis, We Also Have Various Comments To Make About Others Appearances, So I Want To Know From You Guys, Why Is Appearance So Important...Why Is It That Each Time You Leave Your House, You Make Sure You Look Presentable...Why Is It That We Take So Much Of Effort To Look Good, Why Do We Give Our Appearance So Much Of Importance..

agar hum khud ke baat karen to we comment on other people😃
wo asa dress up hua😳
physical appearance kahen had tak he matter karty ha but insan jitna bhe externally change ho jae wo internally wo he rehta ha.n aap jo undar sa hotay ho bahir chahay aap jasa bhe change ho jao wasa he rehty ho
it depends upon nature basically zarure nae ha aik bunda bohat ziada externally appeal kar raha ho to wo internally bhe wasa ho ga
wasa look vise dekha jae to hum logo ke problem y ha we prefer externally not internally😳
han aik chez y ha insan mein confidence internally hota ha na ka externally
but jub personality external+internal well polished ho to aik better insan samnay aata ha.but it depend upon thinking of people how we take people.
kuch k lia external factor importance nae rukhta kuch k lia rukhta ha so totally depend upon people
but agar 1st look ka hisab sa ho to external matter karta ha jub tak aap us insan sa mil nae letay ya bat nae kartay.

well m agar princess bunte ha to us mein change ai ga agar usa ucha sa educate kiya gya but agr usa sirf externally ucha dress up kar diya to wo wahe manyata rahay g.
so education jub insan mein aate ha to khude sa change aa jata ha
so aik insan ka dil to wohe rehta ha
m undar sa asa he rahay g (mean nature) jub educate ho g to internally plus externally change ai ga us mein.
Edited by pearls88 - 13 years ago
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1) Leave The Show Aside, As A Real Person In Everyday Life, Do You Think Appearance Matters..We Meet Many People, Interact With Them On A Daily Basis, We Also Have Various Comments To Make About Others Appearances, So I Want To Know From You Guys, Why Is Appearance So Important...Why Is It That Each Time You Leave Your House, You Make Sure You Look Presentable...Why Is It That We Take So Much Of Effort To Look Good, Why Do We Give Our Appearance So Much Of Importance..

Personally, appearance matters the most. Because it is the first thing about someone that we see. Appearance is the first thing on which we judge a person and our first impression about someone is based on how they look. For me, I take care to dress in a way which shows what I am. I am kinda conservative in styling so all my efforts are gone to make myself look like a shareef Islamic girl with all my assets hidden carefully :P Basically and majorly, our appearances define our personality in more than one way. Hence, taking care of our physical look is really important.

2) Is Appearance Only Linked To The Way One Person Looks...Is Appearance Only Restricted To Looks... When We Think About A Person Does The Parameter Of Appearance Go Beyond, Just How The Person Looks...According To Your Personal Opinion, Does Appearance, Break The Confines & Restrictions Of Just The Looks...What Is Your Take On Appearance...What Difference Does Appearance Make...

In my opinion, appearance doesn't completely define our thoughts about someone. Like I said, appearance only works in the first encounter. But we get to know someone and get intimate with them as friends or lovers, appearance doesn't matter that much. Because the thing about a physical appearance is that it keeps changing according to time, trend and needs. So, completely and always judging someone by their appearance is stupid and immature. Appearance only works to set a good or bad first impression but it is the personality that leaves an everlasting print on the mind of someone.

3) Do You Think Appearance Reforms Or Deforms..By Reforms I Mean, Take The Show 'Dekha Ek Khwaab', Which Is At A Point Where The Lead Actress Is About To Undergo A Makeover, Which Will Not Only Change The Way She Looks But Also The Way She Thinks...So Keeping In View Moniya/Manyata & Her Makeover In Mind, Do You Think When You Change Your Appearance, The Way You Look, You Become A Better Person, Or You Become More Confident As You Know You Look Good & People Cannot Ignore You...On The Other Hand Do You Think A Makeover Of Your Appearance Deforms You As A Person, It Does Not Let You Be, What You Actually Want To Be..Do You Think Looking Good In The Sense Of Appearance Makes You Stand Just As One In The Crowd, But Not Stand Out...

Taking the example of Manyata or speaking even in general, what we wear, how we look, how we act in public actually gives an indication of our background. It tells other people whether we have a good educated background or we belong to some low illiterate family. Now, taking Manyata in context, her make-over is a completely different issue. I can't say whether the better choice of clothes will have a effect on Manyata's mindset or antics because a physical and mental makeover are two entirely different things. Right now, the hints indicate that she will go through a physical makeover. For her mental transformation, no one can help her because it is a person's personal decision. Regarding the confidence part, so well what you wear never gives you extra confidence but yes, it definitely commands attention. When Manyata was in rags, no on gave her attention on the first look but when she'll look like a princess that she is, one look at her and you'd know that this is one person you don't want to mess with.


4) So Manyata Is Going To Have A Complete Makeover, So My Question To All Of You Is, Does Just A Mere Change In Your Look, Change Your Perspective & Way Of Thinking, Does It Make You Confident, Does A Change In The Way You Look Make You Stand Out..& If You Think A Change In The Way You Look, A Change In Your Appearance Has A Positive Impact On The Way You Talk, The Way You Walk, The Way You Present Yourself, Then I Want To Know Why Is It So...What Difference Does A Mere Appearance Make, You Are Who You Are, Yeh Appearance Ka Kya Funda Hai...

What you are physical never defines what you are from inside. But yes, it does have a impact. If we are wearing some rough, everyday clothes then our actions will, to some extent, show the same manner of carelessness as our choice of clothing. Whereas if we are dressed nicely then somewhere in our mind we would want to put up with that clean image with the way we talk, walk or eat. It is a basic human psychology because a majority would do that rather than let their actions go completely against their appearance. So yeah, changing the appearance does have a positive (sometimes negative) impact to out personality.

5) Ab Mera Joh Sawaal Hai, It Is Directed To Who Are You, With In Yourself...So Guys Do You Think Manyata's Makeover, A Change In Manyata's Appearance Will Change What Manyata Is On The Inside Too...Will Just Her Appearance Change The Kind Off Good Hearted Person Manyata Actually Is..On A General Level, Think That You Have A Makeover, So When You Have A Makeover Does It Change The Person You Are By Your Heart, Mind, Body & Soul...

Manyata, basically, is a kind hearted girl. I like to believe that. She is someone who always stood for everyone's rights, someone who knows how to make place in someone's heart. Its just that recently she has been acting too stubbornly and refusing to move on. She hasn't fully accepted her position and duties as a princess. The moment she does, that is when her transformation would be complete. Changing the mere clothes won't do anything to her unless she shuts up, closes her eyes and reflects on her actions neutrally. Weigh out the good and bad, realize her mistakes and rectify it. That is the transformation of mind. Manyata needs the transformation of the mind more than physical change.

6) Manyata Is On The Road Which Leads Her To Look Like A Whole New Person, Altogether In Her Appearance, As An Audience Do You Think You Will Like To See Manyata On-Screen More Often, With A Sense Of Satisfaction & Happiness, Just Because She Looks More Polished & Sophisticated...If Yes, Then Doesn't It Make Us Hypocrites, Who Like To See The Actors On TV Only When They Are Shown With A Image Of Larger Than Life..& With Their Posh, Sophisticated Attitude...& If No, Then My Question To All Of You Is, How Do You Even Tolerate Moniya In Her Jungle Queen Attitude...Hehehe...

What the audience is rooting for is that Manyata's physical transformation would change her wild antics and change them for the better. It is not about the clothes. But yeah, as the audience I would definitely like her if she wears good clothes, have beautiful makeup and some amazing styling done to her. It is not about hypocrisy at all. We watch TV because we want a break from reality and enjoy the fantasies of the daily life which we have locked within ourselves. TV basically provides us the medium through which we can believe that yes, dreams do come true, such people do exist, such love does exist. Regarding the end statement, Allah hi jaane kaise we tolerated her :P I personally tolerated her because I knew good times were coming. I guess they are here :D

7) & Finally For The Last Discussion Point Of The Week, Do You Think The Impact Of Princess Manyata, After The Makeover, Which Is Going Come Across To The Audience, Will Be Greater Than That Off The Impact Of Manyata Being The Princess In Moniya Mode Without A Makeover, Would Have Had...Do You Think Manyata's Makeover Is So Vital In The Show... Why Is Manyata's Makeover A Stepping Stone In The Show 'Dekha Ek Khwaab'...& Do You Think Manyata's Makeover Will Make Her A Better Person Or Change Her For The Worse..& Last But Not The Least, What Impact Will The Makeover Of Manyata, Have On The Show 'Dekha Ek Khwaab' As A Whole...

Definitely! Her makeover is like a whole new turn for the show. For months, we have seen royals like DS, Komal, UV, Unnati, J etc who look and act like royals. Who don't always let their emotions and impulsive thoughts get the better of them. Who don't go by the philosophy ke main jo sochun, wohi sach hai. Main jisse galat samjhu, WOHI galat hai. That is what Manyata does. Manyata has to become one of such royals. She has to balance the politics of being a royal and the heart of being a commoner. She has to learn how to make things happen her way without being loud and demanding. But instead in a quite, sophisticated manner. That is the true journey of a common girl to a princess. She was always meant to be a people's princess. For that, she has take the selfishness out of her nature and think about others before herself. The moment she does that, realizes her mistakes and apologizes from her heart, I am ready to BET that the majority would forgive her antics. I know that I will.

Uff! Done! Maza aaya likhne mein! Awesome DOTW once again Surya! 👏
Posted: 13 years ago
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Wow!

Lovely post!
supa Discussion

will b back after writing my replies.. ( it will take time)..


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very nice discussion!
Appearance does matter alot to me especially when Manyata wants to become a Rajkumari.

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