Unnati & Manyata - Consider the Other Side

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I know most people here are mad at Manyata for playing with her family's emotions just to get money for Aakash's birthday party and at Unnati for supporting her even if that means deceiving Udayveer at some level.

However, I do not hate either of them for what they're doing. I think they're justified to an extent. Yes, they are not perfect, and ideally, they shouldn't be doing this, but isn't that what we are all tired of seeing anyway? The perfect women who just have no vices? I think this makes them both more real and believable.

Manyata - Well, though I do agree that it was wrong of her to do what she did, I do think she has her reasons. Look people, she spent what like 20 years with Aakash and those people? And what like 20 days with the royal family so far? Where do you think her loyalty lies at the moment? *EDIT - I haven't seen the show since the beginning so assumed she grew up in the chawl, which she apparently didn't. So ignore this statement please 😳* Of course, with Aakash and all. What she did was wrong but the royal family has wronged her at one point or the other. They won't let her meet the people she grew up with. After 16 years, they want her to forget her life, the people she spent so many years with, and pretend to be their perfect little princess. Yeah, not happening. Again, I'm by no means condoning what she did. It was wrong, yes. But at the same time I understand where she's coming from. Obviously, she's blinded by love. And it's not like she ordered food from a restaurant and presented it as if she cooked it. She made it herself and even though she was being opportunist, I do not think she committed such a big crime that can't be forgiven.. especially compared to all the politics Uday and Jai do all that time.

Unnati - I would hate her if she helped Manyata with Aakash when Uday truly loved her. But the fact is he does NOT! So I do not, and I repeat, do NOT see a single reason why what she did was wrong. For one, she knows her brother. She knows he's not serious about her. Just a day ago, we saw his 'harmless flirting.' I think it's very great of Unnati to put beside the sibbling loyalty and do what she thinks is right. She understands what Manyata is going through. She's perhaps the only who does. Manyata's whole life is turned upside down, and it's not easy to deal with it. Unnati has said before that she hates all these politics and I feel like she has trouble fitting in with people like Jai and Vijay who are always so selfish and thinking about nothing but themselves. The not completely 'fitting in' part is what bonds Unnati and Manyata so strongly, and that is why they understand each other well. Whatever Unnati did was just for Manyata, to give her a little happiness, and support her in whatever she wants to do. She doesn't want Manyata to be the next woman Uday plays with to satisfy his ego. She wants Manyata to make her own choice - whether she wants Uday or Aakash. And I find that quality of Unnati admirable.

Frankly, I think we are biased towards Uday because yes, he's quite handsome and also because we love grey characters. (Trust me, I'm guilty of that too 😳). But what he's doing is so much more wrong than what either Manyata or Unnati did. He wants to separate Manyata and Aakash when apparently they're truly in love when he doesn't even love her... yet... only doing it to satisfy his ego and to get the throne. THAT is ethically wrong. Don't get me wrong, I am a Uday-Manyata shipper too, but I just want us all to realize that we are being biased here. We love Uday and are willing to ignore all of that, but we get so riled up over Manyata & Unnati. Not fair :)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Mystery-


...but isn't that what we are all tired of seeing anyway? The perfect women who just have no vices? I think this makes them both more real and believable...

Manyata - Well, though I do agree that it was wrong of her to do what she did, I do think she has her reasons. Look people, she spent what like 20 years with Aakash and those people? And what like 20 days with the royal family so far? Where do you think her loyalty lies at the moment? ...
... She made it herself and even though she was being opportunist, I do not think she committed such a big crime that can't be forgiven.. especially compared to all the politics Uday and Jai do all that time.

I am a Uday-Manyata shipper too, but I just want us all to realize that we are being biased here. We love Uday and are willing to ignore all of that, but we get so riled up over Manyata & Unnati. Not fair :)

FIRST can I just say I am SOOO happy to see a fellow Prem and Mukti Lover😳🤗

Second, I see your point and I do respect and agree with it for the most part: Save what I've quoted.
I don't think anyone here expects the perfect woman: infact, I think everyone enjoys seeing charecters with depth and charecteristics which are grey (as you stated with Uday later in the quote) BUT we do want someone who has a STRONG stance. Uday for instance, his stance is clear, not noble but clear. He knows what he wants, and he will do it. Manyata at the moment, is acting VERY contradictory. She accuses UV and J of being underhanded; but I believe she needs to note her actions reflect the same. She says she doesn't want to act like the royals in factor X, Y and Z, BUT she sure was fast to jump into the politics.
Right?
False. She has known Akash, Chiki and Soni fora month: maybe even less, or however long the soap has been running. Just that duration (whatever the time is like in their TV world 😆) Because Manyata has moved around while growing up with Murari: She didnt have a single home. So technically, yes she has known The three longer than her blood family, but for how much longer, a month or two? I find it a little short sighted for her to disregard and lack the effort to get to know the family that has searched for her for 16 years, yet have un dieing loyalty for two friends and lover for what is not even 16 months? I think this is a fallacy in the charecter or the plot; but it is a fallacy nonetheless. YES, her crime is nothing compared to the crap UV and JN pull: but I don't have a problem with that, I have a problem with her "do as I say, not as I do" principle at the moment. At least UV is an upfront jerk.
I know, we all get rialled up. But for me personally, Its more about the fact that Manyata does not have a STANDPOINT. She says one thing, does another: gets mad at the royals for doing something, yet acts in the same mannor. Her hypocrisy is what gets me rialled up. As for Unnati, I think you made a valid point: BUT at the same time I'd ask this SAME question you proposed to us back to you (changed names ofcourse)
"she spent what like 20 years with Uday, and Manyata? And what like 20 days with her so far? Where do you think her loyalty lies at the moment?"
So, where should Unnati's loyalty lie then?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree with you, Unnati is living her life to the fullest through Manyata. Manyata was away for so long she doesn't know all the rules and regulations. While Udayveer deals with others( Jai Nandini and Vijay Bhai) with ease, his sister is someone who just wants to live her life without all the extra politics and drama. I just don't think Manyata should play with Dadisa and Komal
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Bah! Posted twice! Excuse me 😊

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I guess, Unanati is doing this, so that she can do makeover from moniya to manyata..
like after helping her with everything, she can say that oh we are good fiends and blah blah, and I gave you gift long time ago, new clothes but u didn't even look at them and all... and Manyata will start wearing those new clothes bcz unanati bought them... and rajmata asked for help to unanati to make manyata dress like princess...
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Though I can understand where you're coming from, I'd just like to correct you on one point and that is Manyata knowing the chawl people for 20 years...she only met Aakash for the first time a day before she had a run in with Jai for the first time...and even the chawl people she hasn't known for that long either...after being kidnapped Manyata has spent all her life moving from city to city without cultivating any deep or meaningful relationships...and I'm sure that is partly the reason she believes herself to be in love with Aakash
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reeha...k - Aw.. Me too! PreMukti are of the very few jodis I'm totally obsessed with 🤗

As for the point you made against Manyata, I agree with you. And thanks for clearing up my confusion. I haven't seen the show since the beginning so assumed that she grew up in the chawl with Aakash and the other two girls. So yes, now I find Manyata more at fault that I previously did. If she was shown to have that loyalty for Murari, I'd understand. However, I still maintain that from her point of view (not just based on the time she had known them), she'd have more loyalty towards Aakash and all because she chose those people. It's human nature to hate what's forced upon us, and love what we choose. Hence, she feels closer to Aakash then her own family. Again, back to the point, the royal family isn't very accepting of her as Moniya. They want her to become Manyata, the royal princess, which is the very reason that's further driving her away from them and towards Aakash and chawl people.

Originally posted by: reeha...k

As for Unnati, I think you made a valid point: BUT at the same time I'd ask this SAME question you proposed to us back to you (changed names ofcourse)

"she spent what like 20 years with Uday, and Manyata? And what like 20 days with her so far? Where do you think her loyalty lies at the moment?"
So, where should Unnati's loyalty lie then?


I think her loyalty is with Udayveer, in a complicated way, but still is. I think somewhere deep down she realizes that if there's one girl who can change Uday for better, that's Manyata. But she also knows that he can't be forced upon her. And if he is, Uday will probably never change and use Manyata like all the other women he has. She doesn't want Manyata to be another play toy for Uday. She is giving her a fair chance to choose what she wants. I think that's very fair. Again, as I said, if Uday was truly in love with her and then Unnati chose to help her with Aakash, I'd be pissed. But the fact remains, he doesn't. And if he easily gets Manyata, he won't ever value her. And I feel like Unnati knows that.
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Originally posted by: adventure_gurl

I agree with you, Unnati is living her life to the fullest through Manyata. Manyata was away for so long she doesn't know all the rules and regulations. While Udayveer deals with others( Jai Nandini and Vijay Bhai) with ease, his sister is someone who just wants to live her life without all the extra politics and drama. I just don't think Manyata should play with Dadisa and Komal


Exactly! And I agree with your last statement. As I said in my first post, I do not condone what Manyata did. I was merely considering the other side... Of course, she was wrong.. but she had her reasons just like Uday and others have theirs.. no matter how selfish or wrong.

Originally posted by: cutestvampire

I guess, Unanati is doing this, so that she can do makeover from moniya to manyata..
like after helping her with everything, she can say that oh we are good fiends and blah blah, and I gave you gift long time ago, new clothes but u didn't even look at them and all... and Manyata will start wearing those new clothes bcz unanati bought them... and rajmata asked for help to unanati to make manyata dress like princess...


Yup.. that could be part of the reason. By helping her, she'll be closer to her. Though I think Unnati is not that much of a planner. Sometimes many things she does for Manyata is just out of the goodness of her heart since she knows that Manyata is going through a rough time and feels for her.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -sum-

Though I can understand where you're coming from, I'd just like to correct you on one point and that is Manyata knowing the chawl people for 20 years...she only met Aakash for the first time a day before she had a run in with Jai for the first time...and even the chawl people she hasn't known for that long either...after being kidnapped Manyata has spent all her life moving from city to city without cultivating any deep or meaningful relationships...and I'm sure that is partly the reason she believes herself to be in love with Aakash


Thanks! And sorry about that, I just never saw the beginning of the show so when I started watching it, seeing Manyata's loyalty towards the chawl people, I assumed she has grown up with them.
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Originally posted by: reeha...k

FIRST can I just say I am SOOO happy to see a fellow Prem and Mukti Lover😳🤗

Second, I see your point and I do respect and agree with it for the most part: Save what I've quoted.
I don't think anyone here expects the perfect woman: infact, I think everyone enjoys seeing charecters with depth and charecteristics which are grey (as you stated with Uday later in the quote) BUT we do want someone who has a STRONG stance. Uday for instance, his stance is clear, not noble but clear. He knows what he wants, and he will do it. Manyata at the moment, is acting VERY contradictory. She accuses UV and J of being underhanded; but I believe she needs to note her actions reflect the same. She says she doesn't want to act like the royals in factor X, Y and Z, BUT she sure was fast to jump into the politics.
Right?
False. She has known Akash, Chiki and Soni fora month: maybe even less, or however long the soap has been running. Just that duration (whatever the time is like in their TV world 😆) Because Manyata has moved around while growing up with Murari: She didnt have a single home. So technically, yes she has known The three longer than her blood family, but for how much longer, a month or two? I find it a little short sighted for her to disregard and lack the effort to get to know the family that has searched for her for 16 years, yet have un dieing loyalty for two friends and lover for what is not even 16 months? I think this is a fallacy in the charecter or the plot; but it is a fallacy nonetheless. YES, her crime is nothing compared to the crap UV and JN pull: but I don't have a problem with that, I have a problem with her "do as I say, not as I do" principle at the moment. At least UV is an upfront jerk.
I know, we all get rialled up. But for me personally, Its more about the fact that Manyata does not have a STANDPOINT. She says one thing, does another: gets mad at the royals for doing something, yet acts in the same mannor. Her hypocrisy is what gets me rialled up. As for Unnati, I think you made a valid point: BUT at the same time I'd ask this SAME question you proposed to us back to you (changed names ofcourse)
"she spent what like 20 years with Uday, and Manyata? And what like 20 days with her so far? Where do you think her loyalty lies at the moment?"
So, where should Unnati's loyalty lie then?


I totally agree with you!
Manyata is a really confused character at the moment & i hate how she lectures everyone about humanity, but yet, she plays such games to get what she wants. She's quite a hypocrite, in that sense.
and i am a Prem-Mukti lover too :)

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