Corruption = 1 / unity of citizens ?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Title just means corruption in a country is inversely propotionate to unity among the citizens of that country. Agreed?

Well if the citizens of country are not united for a rational cum justifieable cause fogetting thier personal gains then corruption can be curtailed, infact eliminated, don't you think so?

Topic needs to be given lot of thoughts before responding. People say India is a well organised chaos... doesn't chaos is becuase all walks of individuals ae not united forgeting thier selfish motives?

Hope to hear responses here, nahi toh life with bribing is anyway cool😉😛

Don't comply, feel free to suggest points to cut down corruption. 😊

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Corruption in India more like a way of life. As much as I love the country, I also realize that corruption is embedded deep and cannot be taken away that easily. Why is that?? Everybody in the ladder of corruption is getting benefitted in a decent manner. Why will they lose that income, when everybody wants to earn money and it all about the amount of mulah that one can earn in this life.
I agree that if the affected people, meaning the people who are the victims of this practice, can get united and fight, we will be able to fight, but garnering such an effort is by no means easy and needs a lot of time and effort and of course strategic planning. Just by doing dharnas and bhook hadtals, one cannot fight this cancer.
The people who run this ring of corruption have a different way of thinking and have hooligans around them, which makes it even harder for the victims to come forward and fight.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I agree with your points Raj 😊

some days back I was just browsing through net and saw one corruption map of world .. I was wondering if corruption is normal human charactheristic.. major part of world is facing this problem.

There isn't a single factor on which you can put blam for corruptive attitudes. You are right about unity .. ofcourse lack of it , is a definit cause of corruption however who would like to think about it if he\she doesn't know how next meal would be arranged.

What I feel that in south asian countries ..sense of belonging towards region and religion is much stronger compare to country. Plus we are still facing an attitude which is by- product of British rule where we tend to hate govt. and govt institutions.

At that time main reason was to disrupt their smooth administration and create agitation well, ok for that time .. but even now we are still in the same habit .. I feel real bad when on any issue aggitated crowed burn or destroy public property made by their own wealth. disrupt their own life .

As for govt again people sitting their have similar attitude towards country. Untill unless sense of strong belonging towards the country is not there it is hard to develop unity

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Posted: 17 years ago
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response in bold below!!

Originally posted by: vazz

Corruption in India more like a way of life. As much as I love the country, I also realize that corruption is embedded deep and cannot be taken away that easily. Why is that?? Everybody in the ladder of corruption is getting benefitted in a decent manner. Why will they lose that income, when everybody wants to earn money and it all about the amount of mulah that one can earn in this life.

I soo agree!!


I agree that if the affected people, meaning the people who are the victims of this practice, can get united and fight, we will be able to fight, but garnering such an effort is by no means easy and needs a lot of time and effort and of course strategic planning. Just by doing dharnas and bhook hadtals, one cannot fight this cancer.

There has be be start, atleast like minds understanding and acknowledging this fact is begining... lolsss but for some what happens to Ash/Abhi is priority, then they talk about, how can we improve ou county😉
The people who run this ring of corruption have a different way of thinking and have hooligans around them, which makes it even harder for the victims to come forward and fight.

Again Agreed...can we help the cause how and when?? where is the stat point should we assume..things are neve gonna improve fine, then literally tape media raising such issues

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Morning_Dew

I agree with your points Raj 😊

some days back I was just browsing through net and saw one corruption map of world .. I was wondering if corruption is normal human charactheristic.. major part of world is facing this problem.

There isn't a single factor on which you can put blam for corruptive attitudes. You are right about unity .. ofcourse lack of it , is a definit cause of corruption however who would like to think about it if he\she doesn't know how next meal would be arranged.

What I feel that in south asian countries ..sense of belonging towards region and religion is much stronger compare to country. Plus we are still facing an attitude which is by- product of British rule where we tend to hate govt. and govt institutions.

At that time main reason was to disrupt their smooth administration and create agitation well, ok for that time .. but even now we are still in the same habit .. I feel real bad when on any issue aggitated crowed burn or destroy public property made by their own wealth. disrupt their own life .

As for govt again people sitting their have similar attitude towards country. Untill unless sense of strong belonging towards the country is not there it is hard to develop unity

👏👏 on bold, there is no end / resolution basically, great POVs Dewey.👏

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: raj5000

Title just means corruption in a country is inversely propotionate to unity among the citizens of that country. Agreed?

Well if the citizens of country are not united for a rational cum justifieable cause fogetting thier personal gains then corruption can be curtailed, infact eliminated, don't you think so?

Topic needs to be given lot of thoughts before responding. People say India is a well organised chaos... doesn't chaos is becuase all walks of individuals ae not united forgeting thier selfish motives?

Hope to hear responses here, nahi toh life with bribing is anyway cool😉😛

Don't comply, feel free to suggest points to cut down corruption. 😊

I dont think there is any co-relation here.. I could veri well say Corruption has direct co-relation with number of people who smell....or something derogatory like that.... Corruption is a basic human trait... illegal in country like india, openly legalized in countries like US.... open a bank account and recieve $100.....😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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I agree with some of the points raised already. To a certain extent corruption is inversely proportional to the sense of unity in the country. In India every individual, every politician, every group is not concerned about the greater good but the benefit of their own community, religion, region and sometimes downright personal benefit and power. No one is working towards a common goal leading to political and power games. If you look at countries like Finland, Iceland and Denmark which have been ranked least corrupt they are smaller nations with common cultural values within the country.

However, corruption does not depend on unity too. I think corruption depends on economy levels, income distribution, population and education. Countries like Nigeria and Chad suffer from corruption not because of the lack of unity, but because of the economic gaps. There is a discrepancy between the wealthy political class and common class.

Then I think corruption or at least awareness of corruption depends on country's general awareness level. Personally, I do not think United States is clean or deserving of the top 20 rank in low corruption. There are a lot of government policies and actions that seem shady to me. The problem is people in the United States are not as aware of political activities as they are in India.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: raj5000

Title just means corruption in a country is inversely propotionate to unity among the citizens of that country. Agreed?


disagree. Corruption is just inversely proportional to integrity of citizens.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Thanks Raj 😊
Edited by Morning_Dew - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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@QT - Integrity by one or two or five cannot do any good, main point here, actually with denominator I meant citizens who wanna end corruption. Unity of people wanting corruption surely doesn't help here.

@RTH - Once again Nice Views👏.

@Qwertz - You forgot 50$ for referring, can I refer yaa😉 50-50 promise😆 😆

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