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Posted: 18 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: s.priya



Some dont live in US, yet they like to appear all "hip hop" in their opinion...

My neighbour who cant speak English if her life depended on it, would insist on speaking in English to us, whereas all of us would talk to her in Hindi... I just dont understand why people shy away from speaking in Hindi, when it is one of the most beautiful languages spoken... English can seem a bit stilted, but the warmth in Hindi is so endearing, makes me wonder why people dont want to speak it...

MJ dear Gotcha 😃 In your aunt and Priya's neighbors case looks like "Wanna Be Syndrome" 😉 😆

Yeh My Sona is one lucky girl I must say 😳

Thank dewey for your input abt it being good for babies at this young age to be exposed to many languages. We learn something new everyday 😃

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Posted: 18 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: s.priya


Some dont live in US, yet they like to appear all "hip hop" in their opinion...

My neighbour who cant speak English if her life depended on it, would insist on speaking in English to us, whereas all of us would talk to her in Hindi... I just dont understand why people shy away from speaking in Hindi, when it is one of the most beautiful languages spoken... English can seem a bit stilted, but the warmth in Hindi is so endearing, makes me wonder why people dont want to speak it...




agree with you Priya. That's why, at times, I even post in hindi here😆 muh dukh jata hai poorey din angrezee boltey boltey😆

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Posted: 18 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: sonp



This is the dilemma that we will be faced with. Once it gets beyond 2nd or 3rd generation foreign born kids, the knowledge of the mother tongue gets weaker. This is exacerbated by the fact that trips to India become more infrequent.

I think that as long as the links to India remain strong it is ok.

not only speaking mother tongue skills erode, so does the pursuit for educational excellence. Most of the third generation desi and chinese kids are mostly at par with other american kids where as most of the first and second generation desis are far ahead of the curve. culture does get a little diluted when the second generation kids grow up and start having kids!!!

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Posted: 18 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: sonp



bang on!! This is the part that worries me 😕😕

hahaha...me three😆 don't know what my grandbabies will turn out to be...in distant future😆😆

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Posted: 18 years ago
#65

I would like to share something relatively newly discovered.. 😊

This is pretty exciting.

Learning Language

http://www.acfnewsource.org/science/learning_language.html

The Osgood File
(CBS Radio Network): 7/29/03
The Osgood File (CBS Radio Network):2/18/03

Neuroscientists have discovered why children excel at learning languages.

Scientists may finally have an explanation for why children reign supreme when it comes to learning new languages. Using MRI and animation technology to study the brains of children, researchers like Dr. Paul Thompson of UCLA have discovered that children are processing language information in a different region of the brain than adults.

There are different areas in the brain controlling different functions in our lives. When we brush our teeth, sign our names or drive a car, we don't consciously think: "move the right hand up and down like this," "capitalize this letter," or "turn the wheel 30 degrees to the left." These are examples of automatic brain function. When children acquire language, this same part of the brain, called the "deep motor area," is what they use, so the language is like second nature.

But when adults learn a second or third language, their brains operates differently. The window of opportunity to imprint information and skills in the deep motor region of the brain is widest during early childhood and nearly shut by the time we reach about 18. Therefore, adults have to store information elsewhere, in a more active brain region. As a consequence, adults usually think sentences through in a native tongue and then translate them word-by-word, instead of thinking in automatically in another language like a child would. Even for people with extensive training in a second language as an adult, who feel their speech is automatic, on a neurological level the brain is still operating differently from a child's.

Research into the neurology of language acquisition is proving useful because understanding the "geographic" differences of language learning in children versus adults may influence educators and their decisions about foreign language instruction. As an example, Thompson says simply teaching young children the sounds and accents of other languages at an earlier age may be valuable, even if they are not getting full instruction in the language. Learning those sounds later in life – from a neurological perspective – can be more difficult.

CONTACTS

Paul Thompson, Ph.D : Assistant Professor of Neurology
Lab of Neuro-Imaging & Brain Mapping Division
4238 Reed Neurology, UCLA Medical Center
710 Westwood Plaza
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1769

LINKS

WCBS Newsradio 880 in New York City features an archive of transcripts of stories broadcast on The Osgood File.

The Organization for Human Brain Mapping is an academic collaboration for sharing information about brain mapping research.

UCLA also coordinates the International Consortium for Brain Mapping, with the goal of centralizing brain mapping information and creating a neurological atlas of the brain.

Researchers at Johns Hopkins University are also working on brain mapping research.

This Science Daily article features brain research relating to language production and processing.

The International Association for Learning Language Technology is a member-based organization for professionals in language instruction. The organization's Web site contains an array of resources for educators and researchers.

The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champagne has a research program focused specifically on language acquisition.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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All of the above... Agreed! 😃

Buasa, I am not an expert on the topic either. However, I've done some reading on the issue and my brief Intro to Psych course also ventured into the issue. Our brains are very succeptible to the input of our surroundings when we are babies. Basic motor skilss (crawling, arm movement, head control, etc) start developing at an early stage (within a year). Fine motor skills develop from 8/10 months beyond.
A baby's brain also starts cognitive development at that point. Exposure to language at a young age is good as the brain is still developing patterns and creating neuron paths. The more exposure a child gets at an early stage, the more able he/she is to grasp languages in the developmental stages of childhood.

Basically, your Sona is taking it all in. She's processing it and comprehending a lot of what you're saying, regardless the language. Given constant exposure to all languages she will develop the ability to eventually converse in them as well. She will, obviously, be most fluent in the language(s) she is most exposed to. Those languages she isn't exposed to on a daily basis, she will recognize and understand a little, but her ability to respond in the same will be limited or non-existant.

An exposure to various languages is said to be good for the brain. It exposes you to think in different languages. Each language consists of its own set of nuances and implications which become an integral part of the child's thought process. Again, the greater the exposure, the more prominent it is in the child's thinking and responses.

Not entirely scientific and not 100% accurate/on point since general psychology doesn't inform you well enough... but that's the gist of it.
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Posted: 18 years ago
#67
thanks qt, thats a nice article and that explains it now.
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Posted: 18 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: simtara

All of the above... Agreed! 😃

Buasa, I am not an expert on the topic either. However, I've done some reading on the issue and my brief Intro to Psych course also ventured into the issue. Our brains are very succeptible to the input of our surroundings when we are babies. Basic motor skilss (crawling, arm movement, head control, etc) start developing at an early stage (within a year). Fine motor skills develop from 8/10 months beyond.
A baby's brain also starts cognitive development at that point. Exposure to language at a young age is good as the brain is still developing patterns and creating neuron paths. The more exposure a child gets at an early stage, the more able he/she is to grasp languages in the developmental stages of childhood.

Basically, your Sona is taking it all in. She's processing it and comprehending a lot of what you're saying, regardless the language. Given constant exposure to all languages she will develop the ability to eventually converse in them as well. She will, obviously, be most fluent in the language(s) she is most exposed to. Those languages she isn't exposed to on a daily basis, she will recognize and understand a little, but her ability to respond in the same will be limited or non-existant.

An exposure to various languages is said to be good for the brain. It exposes you to think in different languages. Each language consists of its own set of nuances and implications which become an integral part of the child's thought process. Again, the greater the exposure, the more prominent it is in the child's thinking and responses.

Not entirely scientific and not 100% accurate/on point since general psychology doesn't inform you well enough... but that's the gist of it.

Wow simi nice post and good input from ya. I agree with you completely. All we can do is do the best at exposing her to the languages that we know 😃.

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Posted: 18 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: simtara

All of the above... Agreed! 😃

Buasa, I am not an expert on the topic either. However, I've done some reading on the issue and my brief Intro to Psych course also ventured into the issue. Our brains are very succeptible to the input of our surroundings when we are babies. Basic motor skilss (crawling, arm movement, head control, etc) start developing at an early stage (within a year). Fine motor skills develop from 8/10 months beyond.
A baby's brain also starts cognitive development at that point. Exposure to language at a young age is good as the brain is still developing patterns and creating neuron paths. The more exposure a child gets at an early stage, the more able he/she is to grasp languages in the developmental stages of childhood.

Basically, your Sona is taking it all in. She's processing it and comprehending a lot of what you're saying, regardless the language. Given constant exposure to all languages she will develop the ability to eventually converse in them as well. She will, obviously, be most fluent in the language(s) she is most exposed to. Those languages she isn't exposed to on a daily basis, she will recognize and understand a little, but her ability to respond in the same will be limited or non-existant.

An exposure to various languages is said to be good for the brain. It exposes you to think in different languages. Each language consists of its own set of nuances and implications which become an integral part of the child's thought process. Again, the greater the exposure, the more prominent it is in the child's thinking and responses.

Not entirely scientific and not 100% accurate/on point since general psychology doesn't inform you well enough... but that's the gist of it.

terrific post Simi👏. Reminds me of those lectures i took during child development classes in India😊 They say a baby's mind is like a sponge absorbing as many languages as you throw at her during the first four years of their life. Later, what you described above, fluency in what you are most exposed to. but being exposed to numerous languages during first four years of your life usually blesses you with an easy pick up of any language you want to pursue later. helps develop analytical part of brain as well.

Varsha di, I think you all are doing awesome job with Sona. Keep up the great work👏👏

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Posted: 18 years ago
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hehe.. for the scientific.. please read QTdi's post. Gosh... do nerds ek forum pe (to the tune of do deewane 😉)

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