biatchali thumbnail
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Posted: 18 years ago
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hey guys

Alot of people here have some strong VERY strong views on a lot of topics..now i dnt knw if the topic im about 2 strt has been strted previously or not but if it has them im sorry..

what do you guys think of 9/11?was Al Qaeda really bhind it or was it a concpiracy by the government?and how has it afffected any muslims you know?

i have a link of a video by alex jones he has amazing views on the whole issue...and if you guys have the time do view the video or just reserch on his views :

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: biatchali

hey guys

Alot of people here have some strong VERY strong views on a lot of topics..now i dnt knw if the topic im about 2 strt has been strted previously or not but if it has them im sorry..

what do you guys think of 9/11?

oh dunno, some impotent men got onto a flight, hijacked it, flew few planes into building of people going by with their lives, Dont know what was going on in the mind of the impotent men, you have any idea's about it?

was Al Qaeda really bhind it or was it a concpiracy by the government?

Yeah the Govt of Afghanistan was in Kahuts with Al Qaeda, now the people responsible in that govt are sleeping 6 feet under or hiding behind their wives

and how has it afffected any muslims you know?

One of my Muslim friends would not beleive it was a terrorist attack, when the second building was hit and he was standing in the next tallest building, he beleived it was a TERRORIST attack, Another Muslim friend of mine, nice guy still works for the same company, goes to work, his sister used to own a hallmark store right next to WTC, that did get destroyed, curses those people who hijacked the planes

i have a link of a video by alex jones he has amazing views on the whole issue...

yep so does George Bush😆

and if you guys have the time do view the video or just reserch on his views :

No Thanks

Incidentally, 7 of my friends and colleagues died in 9/11, none of them were muslims, 4 Christian, 2 Hindus and 1 Jewish but thanks for asking about them😉

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: sareg

Incidentally, 7 of my friends and colleagues died in 9/11, none of them were muslims, 4 Christian, 2 Hindus and 1 Jewish but thanks for asking about them😉

well im sorrry about ure frnds hu died in the awful incident and for others who have also lost thier loved ones in this act..but i truley do not beleive it is a terrorist attack...

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I agree. I personally think all this was consipracy to attack on Afghanistan and other muslim states because of them being rich in Oil. Thousands of muslims were killed in these attacks too. Muslims were thrown out of America and were to be labelled as terriosits and to be never trusted again. Even if this was a muslim terroist attack, why did the whole muslim population get the blame for it?? It was a consipracy by America. 😊
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: cool_pooja

I agree. I personally think all this was consipracy to attack on Afghanistan and other muslim states because of them being rich in Oil. Thousands of muslims were killed in these attacks too. Muslims were thrown out of America and were to be labelled as terriosits and to be never trusted again. Even if this was a muslim terroist attack, why did the whole muslim population get the blame for it?? It was a consipracy by America. 😊

WHOA!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Thanks for giving that awesome expression.😳

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: cool_pooja

I agree. I personally think all this was consipracy to attack on Afghanistan

😆😆 What is there in Afghanistan for America to attack them for? Opium?

and other muslim states because of them being rich in Oil.

I assume you meant Iraq there, When was the last time Iraq produced oil to its own requirements? They have been under UN sanctions since 1992😆, before that they were part of OPEC😆

As if the oil in the other states has been under their control, the Oil production is controlled thru OPEC, and since 1975 OPEC jumps when America says jump, OPEC sits when America says sit.

Sitting on the oil does not mean you actually control it😆

Thousands of muslims were killed in these attacks too.

Factually this statement is wrong, simple counting on the list here will tell you this statement is wrong

https://www.september11victims.com/september11victims/victims _list.htm

I assume you meant people who died as a result of American war on terror, and just said something else if that the case here is the response

Should have thought about it before letting someone use a Jihad to attack another country and its innocent citizens, the burden of proof is on the Muslim population to stop people from draging them into this.

According to the Jihadists victims of 9/11 attacks were collateral damage, so People who support the Jihadists should not have a problem if some of their "own" die in these attacks.

Afghanistan should consider itself extremely lucky, that George W Bush is not Harry S Truman.

Muslims were thrown out of America and were to be labelled as terriosits and to be never trusted again.

Details please or else this becomes a baseless statement.

Even if(If someone is curious why there is a response like mine to this, the preceeding two words are the reason, if someone tried to kill me and people say "Even If", they do not deserve any consideration from me) this was a muslim terroist attack,

Are there not any responsibilities of the Muslim population as Humans in all of this? Are they not responsible to stop some of their fringe elements from using them as human sheilds while declaring war on others? Can you enumerate things that the Muslim Population has done to prevent such things from happening in future? The usage of the word Jihad has been used to kill hundreds of thousands for centuries, what has the muslim population done over centuries to stop it. Isnt it the Muslim Population that has been hiding Osama Bin Laden amongst them? What has the Muslim Population done to get him?

why did the whole muslim population get the blame for it??

What is so difficult to understand? you yourself defined it the attack as maybe a "Muslim" attack, that is the reason why Muslims will have to bear the consequences

It was a consipracy by America. 😊

It was a conspiracy of a fringe element in the Muslim community, they used terms such as Jihad to justify their causes

Rather than having an outcry against it, people in the community choose to cry about the resulting actions, this to me is justification of the word "Jihad", for those in the muslim community, it is them who are responsible for all the deaths, the victims of 9/11 and the resulting deaths out of American action😉

I hope they sleep peacefully when they read news such as

https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6516017.stm

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Posted: 18 years ago
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no offence but u have been brainwashed like alot of americans by the media....did bin laden say he done the attcks?YES HE DID....but then why did onli a few weeks ago another guy come out and say he woz da master mind bhind it all?????some extremists ( i will not call them muslims bcuz Jihad is not about killing its about scarficing ure inner devil 4 islam) love the idea of taking blame for stuff like dis...wen dey are more then likely not to have done it...it makes the public h8 them/ fear them and they get a thrill from it...

we dont judge all americans on Bush...people dnt judge british bcoz of blair...then why do muslims get judged bcoz of the action of one person???????just bcoz they say WE MUSLIMS...?Bush says WE AMERICA...but we dont judge so why do we get judged?? and sareg im sure u have been hurt by the outcome of 9/11 but this topic was onli strted to ask u 2 view a video on concpiracy THEN make a comment...if u watch the video provided u will also belive how Bush and American media has mis led u..

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: biatchali

no offence but u have been brainwashed like alot of americans by the media....did bin laden say he done the attcks?YES HE DID....but then why did onli a few weeks ago another guy come out and say he woz da master mind bhind it all?????

The guy who claimed he is the master mind, he was #3 of Al Qeada😆, He was supposedly a commander in Al Qeada😆, if you would have read the actual news on that guy you would have known that😆, Comeon please do some research before making statements😆

you can read any of your 😉 newspapers, Perhaps a newspaper from Pakistan? like Dawn.com?, It will come back with the same information😆

I will come back to the brainwashing stuff later on

some extremists ( i will not call them muslims bcuz Jihad is not about killing its about scarficing ure inner devil 4 islam) love the idea of taking blame for stuff like dis...wen dey are more then likely not to have done it...it makes the public h8 them/ fear them and they get a thrill from it...

Come again? Khalid Sheikh Al Qaeda's #3 took the responsiblity, Bin Laden himself says it in videotape in his own voice😆. So you just dont want to believe it b'cos he is muslim😉?

Well about the defination of Jihad, I have every religious scholar give me that defination, how about for a change explaining it to My Bin Laden and his type, they have been prosecuting hundreds of thousands of people under the guise of Jihad, when will the muslim community make an effort to shut these people down? or they are unwilling to do so? or uncapable?

Since they are uncapable of cleaning their own dirty laundery, Bush and America is doing it for them, If Muslim Community had a will and strength they would have done this themselves, maybe you should be asking the people of Muslim Community why dont they do anything regards this? how many more thousand have to die before they start owning up to their responsibility of Human Beings? or is too much of an expectation?

we dont judge all americans on Bush...people dnt judge british bcoz of blair...then why do muslims get judged bcoz of the action of one person???????just bcoz they say WE MUSLIMS...?Bush says WE AMERICA...but we dont judge so why do we get judged??

1. You made this a Muslim Vs anyone else, read your first post yourself, America did not, America has taken efforts to say it is not Muslim, it is certain people but you want to think only Muslim, what can anyone say about that, If you look thru brown glass you see everything brown😉

2. B' cos you allowed Bin Laden to attack innocent people under the guise of Jihad, now it is your responsibility to stop him from using it, if you cant stop him, stop complaining and let someone who is capable of doing that for you

and sareg im sure u have been hurt by the outcome of 9/11 but this topic was onli strted to ask u 2 view a video on concpiracy THEN make a comment...if u watch the video provided u will also belive how Bush and American media has mis led u..

Ok About Misleading and Brainwashing, I will try to make it simple what those two terms mean and maybe you can try to figure out who is brainwashed and who is misled

If say you have a hot water tub, water is steaming in there, you can feel steam vapors in there, you put your hand in the water, your hand will get burnt, you will get a boil on your hand, That is reality

If say you are watching a film, they claim water is steaming, you have no way to tell if it is true or not, the thermometer says 90 deg celcius, but there is a person who dips his hand in that water, you see he does not feel any pain, his skin does not get a boil, you dont see steam on the water. Do you beleive the water is steaming? Common Sense tellls you that is misleading information, if there is someone who claims the movie is realistic you know that person is trying to brainwash

Now apply this to 9/11

I saw a plane enter Tower II of WTC, I saw the building collapse, not on TV, but in reality, I smelt human flesh burning for multiple days after the event, My face had dust on it after the building collapsed, I could feel it, I attended a funeral of a person who died, now this was no Ekta Serial to claim that the person did not die.My collegue who was standing next to me who was watching the plane enter Tower II was watching it with binoculars

Now let us see, you are the one watching the film here and claiming it did not occur😉

Who is Brainwashed and Who is misled? you or me😆?

Get your facts straight, then twist it to your liking😉

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Posted: 18 years ago
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sareg we did not make bin laden do it..if u ask many muslims they h8 him 4 giving us the wrong name...and in fact i do read newspapers and i read THE Times and Daily Mail..ONLINE...where other readers can interact thier opinion..and the day the news of da other nutter admiting he was bhind all came us quite a shock 2 the readers bcoz we have on a weekly basis been told a new link a new master mind has been found bhind all these attacks...did i say the planes did not fly into the building????i know they did..i may not have been there but i was watching it live and we cried me and ma whole family cried...the day bush announced the war on terror we also cried...why?bcoz like u lost many of your close ones on 9/11 i also lost many due to this war on terror..not just those in afghan but those from here who served for the army...
im requesting you 2 view that video...and hear the facts...and THEN comment...

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