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Posted: 2 years ago
#31

My previous job followed the hybrid model and I feel that is the best option to have mix of WFH and WFO.

Personally I prefer WFH over WFO because WFH I can have more time to work alone and it is much more flexible in terms of timing, and no one is seeing what you are doing or not, however at times there is chance of getting distracted for a longer time compared to WFO.

As for WFO, what I like is that I can meet my colleagues there and have lunch with then (since it was a nice work culture there), and also it is much easier to WFO when there are things that require conversation and collaboration as certain things cant be done WFH.

But then when it is entirely WFO, it may see overwhelming at times and also the journey to and from office wastes precious time plus extra transport expenses. However if it is entirely WFH, you may not be sure if you are on the right track at work and it kinda can get lonely too.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

Moving away from environment based questions:


If Mickey can work from anywhere, what's stopping companies to employ a cheaper, better, Minnie who can also work from anywhere? What's stopping the labor marker from turning into a gig economy?

The entire KPO/BPO business thrived on the model that you can work from anywhere.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

The entire KPO/BPO business thrived on the model that you can work from anywhere.


Oh, I know. I was saying that even the business models of an Infosys, a Mindtree, a HCL or a Wipro are likely imperiled, if not now, a few years from now, due to the paradigm shift caused by work-from-anywhere. So far, gig economy is associated with unskilled work such as driving, delivering, and doing simple errands. A vibrant gig economy for skilled knowledge workers hasn't materialized because of high transaction costs such as searching, coordination, and contracting which is where the well known KPO/BPO firms such as Infosys and Wipro come in. This problem can and will be solved in the near future with AI algorithms that help in cost-effective matching of demand with appropriately skilled individuals scattered across the globe who could work as a team by employing products like, say, Slack, for communication and coordination. Costs associated with contracting could be lowered with technologies like blockchain. Demand will be met by supply that is not employed full-time with benefits, and not situated "locally". Just as everything else in this world, flexibility in terms of workplace and time has a downside too. Folks clamoring for "WFH" will realize that soon.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#34

Nice topic for discussion.

I guess both the versions have their pros and cons.

I prefer both as per the situation demands.

I have been in both the situations.

And the Corona period really taught me the real value of freedom.

And I really appreciate and thank God for this everyday.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: K.Universe.


Oh, I know. I was saying that even the business models of an Infosys, a Mindtree, a HCL or a Wipro are likely imperiled, if not now, a few years from now, due to the paradigm shift caused by work-from-anywhere. So far, gig economy is associated with unskilled work such as driving, delivering, and doing simple errands. A vibrant gig economy for skilled knowledge workers hasn't materialized because of high transaction costs such as searching, coordination, and contracting which is where the well known KPO/BPO firms such as Infosys and Wipro come in. This problem can and will be solved in the near future with AI algorithms that help in cost-effective matching of demand with appropriately skilled individuals scattered across the globe who could work as a team by employing products like, say, Slack, for communication and coordination. Costs associated with contracting could be lowered with technologies like blockchain. Demand will be met by supply that is not employed full-time with benefits, and not situated "locally". Just as everything else in this world, flexibility in terms of workplace and time has a downside too. Folks clamoring for "WFH" will realize that soon.

There is a thing called survival spirit & human beings are quite blessed with it. Pretty sure this too shall pass. Till you keep upgrading your knowledge base & upskilling, you will never be removed.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#36

We cannot stop the development of technology. Digitalisation and AI will continue to advance. We will have to make friends with new working methods and working models. Without progress, we would not be where we are today. Unskilled work will continue to be needed. Changing situations require new demands. There will be other fields of activity. To survive, we will have to adapt and always upgrade our skills. Standstill is a step backwards. Among other things, rising rents and high maintenance costs of real estate are causing companies to increasingly think about other employment models in order to reduce high ancillary costs. WFH, WFO... Each model has its pro and cons..

Edited by So-So - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#37

I didn't get through all responses but will post my and my mom's experience.


Starting from online classes. Yeah I am from the Corona batch 😆

It was an okayish experience. Some professors did a great job, others not so much. One of my lady professor had a 1 year old baby. He kept calling her, crying and doing all the baby stuff when she was teaching. It was cute a couple of times but extremely distracting and everyone including her just tuned out. One professor had an older PC and his voice wasn't really clear again we tuned out. The classes we enjoyed were the one's where professors used graphic tab to whiteboard stuff and used animations, videos etc. Here the single single for single student actually helped in focusing rather than the distracting classroom setting. Obviously we missed all the college socializing.


My mom had WFH. While she did save time and energy in travel, she was heavily distracted by me and my brother. Even though we didn't explicitly disturb her, our movements and us just being there was distracting. Another issue she faced was getting the team together. Everyone started working at different times and hence it was tough to get to a common time to discuss work flow.


Another huge issue we faced was the internet. Three people using the simultaneously resulted in slow speed and thereby bad experience. We actually spent time in optimising settings to turn off certain processes so the devices will use lesser resources.


Presently, I am allowed for hybrid mode for my work, but I go to office almost every working day. Issues that I have because of which I prefer going to office are, first is unreliable electricity. Internet issues as mentioned. Too many distractions. For example I see my pile of dirty clothes randomly and start thinking when should I wash them. My brain treats WFH as holiday and my productivity tanks. Having to wait to get doubts resolved. The office gives me a more controlled environment. As a person who hardly has any friends, office provides me that required socialization.


To conclude, WFH only works if and only if your home is sorted and you can actually get detached. Which in itself is a privilege.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#38

WFH is only good for those people who likes socializing and who likes outside food. As a introvert i always felt left out being in my workplace. I even used to stay alone in a room and skipped many of my meals as i was very lazy to cook 😆

People like me.

1. Who don't like parties

2. Who don't like socializing

3. Who don't eat non veg

4. Who only wants to focus on work and cuddle my parents in the night prefer work from home as being in my workplace made me so lonely.


WFH gives

1. Family time which you missed from past many years and you hardly got a chance to interact with your parents.

2. Me time as I dont have to travel over weekends or to office early mornings.

3. Security as i dont have to stay in a town all alone and travel in the night using public transport to reach my office.

4. Money as i saved a lot than i used to earlier which i spent of food rent transport etc.

5. Peace of mind as i can cuddle with my pets and stay beside nature and away from noisy traffic.

6. Almost no or 0 junk food intake from past 3 years due to wfh. I dont even like them anyways 😃

7. Learnt about lot from parents

8. Cooked many meals with mom 👩

9. Played games with my parents 🙂


This is all I wanted and i never wanted lavish life or socializing or career growth.

Career growth should happen based on work which will happen in wfh as ppl will get to know who really works which never happend in past as it used hide under the carpet of collaboration 😁

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Posted: 2 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: Shri_12

I didn't get through all responses but will post my and my mom's experience.


Starting from online classes. Yeah I am from the Corona batch 😆

It was an okayish experience. Some professors did a great job, others not so much. One of my lady professor had a 1 year old baby. He kept calling her, crying and doing all the baby stuff when she was teaching. It was cute a couple of times but extremely distracting and everyone including her just tuned out. One professor had an older PC and his voice wasn't really clear again we tuned out. The classes we enjoyed were the one's where professors used graphic tab to whiteboard stuff and used animations, videos etc. Here the single single for single student actually helped in focusing rather than the distracting classroom setting. Obviously we missed all the college socializing.


My mom had WFH. While she did save time and energy in travel, she was heavily distracted by me and my brother. Even though we didn't explicitly disturb her, our movements and us just being there was distracting. Another issue she faced was getting the team together. Everyone started working at different times and hence it was tough to get to a common time to discuss work flow.


Another huge issue we faced was the internet. Three people using the simultaneously resulted in slow speed and thereby bad experience. We actually spent time in optimising settings to turn off certain processes so the devices will use lesser resources.


Presently, I am allowed for hybrid mode for my work, but I go to office almost every working day. Issues that I have because of which I prefer going to office are, first is unreliable electricity. Internet issues as mentioned. Too many distractions. For example I see my pile of dirty clothes randomly and start thinking when should I wash them. My brain treats WFH as holiday and my productivity tanks. Having to wait to get doubts resolved. The office gives me a more controlled environment. As a person who hardly has any friends, office provides me that required socialization.


To conclude, WFH only works if and only if your home is sorted and you can actually get detached. Which in itself is a privilege.


@bold - this so much. I don't have many friends and office was my only way of socializing.


Also agree about family being a distraction.😆

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Posted: 2 years ago
#40

WFH is a model that has been chosen in the UK for a lot of places. Even in our organisation where face to face meetings with clients were once a neccessity for funding, the funders have adapted and agreed to allow 90% of our clients to be via telephone and 10% should be face to face.

With this, we were able to reach the targets set out for us and pull in 200+ clients a month for my team. Before Covid, our targets were around 100 clients between 6-7 advisers. Now there's 2 advisers and 3 support officers who are pulling in 200+ clients a month.


For me personally, in my previous role in this organisation there were a few benefits to working from home such as the flexibility, better productivity, I loved being alone and working without having to deal with office drama or politics etc but I had a few downsides. Being an introvert, I don't have many passions so I ended up overworking. Some times, I'd be up at midnight logging on or logging in on the weekends and working for an hour or two to get my cases up to date. My contracted hours were 35 and some weeks I ended up doing 60-70 hour weeks.


This was never the case when I worked from the office, I would do my 9-5pm days and be home and in time for dinner with the family. I'd spend my evening with them cooking dinner and just enjoying a relaxing evening and not have to think about work at all. That was balanced work/life for me.

All of the overworking stopped recently and changed when I had taken up a new role as training lead for the organisation, I felt my role had gotten boring. Before I used to be on the phone nearly 4-5 hours a day calling clients and opening up cases whilst I worked on the sidelines trying to innovate and introduce new processes that changed the way we worked as a business and save them money ( I wanted a pay rise so I worked hard to save money for them whilst I pushed my manager for a raise.


Given how I had changed the way we work within my own team, the CEO decided he wants the new processes rolled out in the whole organisation and gave me the raise I'd be pushing for 😂

I do enjoy this role, it is challenging and all new but I am sometimes bored. I feel there's not enough work to fill my days and even reiterated the same to my managers. My friends have said if it were them, they'd have just watched netflix but I absolutely love working. I am an introvert so I don't tend to go out much except for the odd weekends and I prefer staying in with a good book than going out to eat. Now out of my contracted 35 hours, I get all my work done within a few hours.


I think certain roles and people do have to work from the office as they require some sort of structure. I know I'd prefer my trainees to be at the office because I'd be able to manage them better and train them better because I do feel they're not able to balance their work/life and have some sort of structure.

There are a few downsides with the WFH model within our organisation because there is so many varying roles, some are able to work whatever time they want, and I appreciate that we all have flexibility, but sometimes I just want a quick response to an email or chat and it can take hours because they're shown as away from their laptop for hours. In the office, we'd go to the person's desk and get that quick response or ask the person next to ours for a quick response to anything.


Another downside is some colleagues taking advantage of the WFH model and not doing what they're supposed to do. The organisation had been unable to do anything about this colleague for a while because she cited so many issues such as the internet being down, or she's been up to her eyeballs in xyz, every time they tried confronting her about the work, she claimed bullying and put in a grievance and they couldn't prove anything because she had been using her personal laptop to work rather than the office one. After a 2 year battle, they've finally followed the steps of the legal team and now going to get rid of her. It was really demotivating for a lot of staff on my team and me that she was being paid a supervisor wage and not showing anything for it. And thanks to her, the office issued out chromebooks (which is absolutely shit) to everyone in the organisation to use and they're able to watch what we're doing now.


Our organisation adopted the working from home model and had ended the lease with their previous landlord. They then moved into a building that shared office space with others and had different areas across 5 floors where we could work from in order to get people to move around freely and not work from one desk stiffly for 7 hours which has been received positively from a lot of us. It did encourage a few to come into work. Doing this, the organisation had saved thousands especially with the cost of living and energy crisis right now. They're no longer paying multiple bills along with rent for the building they had rented out previously. Now they pay one fixed amount per month and its less than what they'd paid before.

They were also able hire from outside of the 4 areas that we used to previously hire from. Now we have colleagues from London, Birmingham, Coventry etc... That would not have happened if they hadn't changed the model of the business.

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