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Our guards had become our jailors: Salman Soz

Security personnel standing guard in Srinagar on Wednesday, the 16th day of restrictions.

Security personnel standing guard in Srinagar on Wednesday, the 16th day of restrictions.

Vijaita Singh

New Delhi 21 August 2019 22:44 IST

Updated: 21 August 2019 22:48 IST

Congress leader says ‘Constitution has been savagely attacked’

Senior Congress leader Salman Anees Soz, who was under house arrest for 10 days in Srinagar earlier this month, says that “if peaceful protests are allowed” in the Kashmir Valley, then the crowds will be “far bigger than the ones you see in Hong Kong”.

The Valley has been under lockdown since August 5 following the suspension of Article 370 and the bifurcation of the State into two Union Territories.

In an interview to The Hindu over WhatsApp from the U.S, Mr. Soz, who travelled to Srinagar after the Valley was locked down, said he and the members of his family, including his father and former Cabinet Minister Saifuddin Soz, were placed under house arrest without any written orders.

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Refusing to divulge details of how he was able to leave the Valley, Mr. Soz tweeted on Monday: “I was allowed to accompany my wife and children out of Kashmir on August 15, out of India on August 17. In Kashmir, the Constitution seems helpless. Don’t blindly trust the government.”

Other members of his family, however, continue to be in detention.

‘Surreal move’

“It was surreal... But when my father, Prof. Saifuddin Soz, was informed by our security guards that he was not to move out of our home, it became clear that these arrests were widespread. I was informed about my house arrest a day later. The head of the guards at our home, from the J&K Police, said this [order] is direct from [Prime Minister Narendra] Modi. Our guards were now our jailors,” Mr. Soz recalled.

Mr. Soz said the family had access to Delhi-based news channels intermittently. “We watched news, much of which seemed implausible. The news was largely supplied by the government and it was impossible to verify what was going on,” he said. He added that he could not meet a single party worker and the number of leaders under detention couldn’t be confirmed.

Mr. Soz said the Centre’s decision was “disastrous at many levels”.

“Those who are celebrating as if Kashmir has been conquered and Kashmiris subjugated, should look up the definition of a Pyrrhic victory. The Constitution has been savagely attacked. ... Of course, in Kashmir, this move will likely lead to serious adverse consequences,” he said.

He said the Centre's move was likely to increase alienation in the Valley.

“While I personally hope that our young people do not resort to violence of any kind, we have to be realistic. Militant ranks may swell and this is not good for Kashmir because it impacts us adversely and squeezes space for direct action by peaceful means....the Modi government’s action to detain the entire political leadership of Kashmir and the unprecedented clampdown are suffocating opportunities to resist the government through peaceful means. If peaceful protests are allowed, I can guarantee that you will have crowds in Kashmir far bigger than the ones you see in Hong Kong,” Mr. Soz remarked.

He also said the Centre's narrative that the move will boost business opportunities in the State is disingenuous.

“I invite the Prime Minister to share with the country a table comparing basic development indicators of J&K with other states, including Gujarat....Did he deliver the highest unemployment rate in the last 45 years? Yes,” he quipped. He said the Prime Minister should also indicate when Article 371 of the Constitution that gives special status to other States, including those in the northeast, is to be abrogated.

“In several sub clauses of this Article, there are special provisions for many States, including restrictions on non-State subjects who may wish to buy property in those States. After all, one of the objectives of Mr. Modi was to create one India. Why only do justice and development for Kashmiris? I am sure our brothers and sisters in other States are eager to receive a bit of justice and development as well,” he said.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Problem is a lot of people in Kashmir support Pakistan, not India, reason best known to them. Indian govt can't force these people, Azad Kashmir is a hoax, basically they want to be with Pakistan like POK which they also address by same misnoner. India should keep Jammu and leave Kashmir. When only 5-9 percent come out to vote, why do you want to rule such people by force, they have clearly discarded Indian govt long ago. Which world are you/sangh people living in? As far as Kashmiri Pandits are concerned, (which I also happen to be part of though not displaced) most are happily settled in UK and USA after taking asylum and have no interest returning to India. It is a waste of taxpayer's money, govt should focus on economy and water issues with whatever little competency they have got.

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You are right..40000 muslims have been killed in Kashmir versus 400 Pandits. Obviously 40k weren't all terrorists. But dont argue with fake nationalists, unfortunately they are the ones making all the noise lately since two fools are on the top posts.

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Originally posted by: Zephyr_57


I actually fail to understand Pakis attitude, India has always tried to keep her relations cordial with all the countries, we even gave Pak MFN status, we helped them in their power crisis. Their current action is completely baseless, pointless and dumb. they should review their actions... Terror and talks don't go together people!

They are scarred after BanglaDesh was created, wounded animal basically. Plus very aggressive extremists Pathans sort of rule army and therefore country. Moderate Pakistanis have no voice and believe in leaving country similar to Indians. Unfortunately current ruling govt of India is falling in the same trap heading for disaster, where as IK might be able to rescue Pak a little bit, have a little hope though.

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Originally posted by: LovelyPlanet

Problem is a lot of people in Kashmir support Pakistan, not India, reason best known to them. Indian govt can't force these people, Azad Kashmir is a hoax, basically they want to be with Pakistan like POK which they also address by same misnoner. India should keep Jammu and leave Kashmir. When only 5-9 percent come out to vote, why do you want to rule such people by force, they have clearly discarded Indian govt long ago. Which world are you/sangh people living in? As far as Kashmiri Pandits are concerned, (which I also happen to be part of though not displaced) most are happily settled in UK and USA after taking asylum and have no interest returning to India. It is a waste of taxpayer's money, govt should focus on economy and water issues with whatever little competency they have got.

Which people are you talking about..... Those were brain washed earlier in the name of religion. But look at pok's halat..... Pakistani government forcefully made people handover their land so that it can be sold to China. Chinese are barbaric, they don't care about people or nature. They are destroying the natural resources there..... Same is gonna happen with Indian Kashmir.

Also why should we give our land. If indian Kashmiri people want to be in Pakistan. Then let them sell their land to Indians and migrate to Pakistan. We won't stop them....

As for Pakistan, it's a rogue country, if you give Kashmir, next they will want Jammu, then Delhi, Mumbai, Kanyakumari. There is no end to their greed...

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Originally posted by: anjs

Which people are you talking about..... Those were brain washed earlier in the name of religion. But look at pok's halat..... Pakistani government forcefully made people handover their land so that it can be sold to China. Chinese are barbaric, they don't care about people or nature. They are destroying the natural resources there..... Same is gonna happen with Indian Kashmir.

Also why should we give our land. If indian Kashmiri people want to be in Pakistan. Then let them sell their land to Indians and migrate to Pakistan. We won't stop them....

As for Pakistan, it's a rogue country, if you give Kashmir, next they will want Jammu, then Delhi, Mumbai, Kanyakumari. There is no end to their greed...

Exactly, I never understood this need to division of land based on religion, if religion was sole reason for assimilation then why was Pak further split into Bangladesh? People are free to go wherever they want... In that way there are gujjar, Buddhist, Hindus and other religions too... JK belongs to everyone there!

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Pakistan threatening of using missile with tactical atomic bomb. To kkll about 100000s of soldiers. The day pakistan did this, it will be tbe end for them. They thibk we have kept our weapons for aarti utaring

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India cant give kashmir as simple as that

From tactical point of view as well as then every state will say give us freedom. It doesnt happens this way.

Tactical pov kashmir is very important to keep both pak and china in check. And my frnds r frm kashmir n they dont want to leave india. Kashmir is the place they were born n live. Why should they be thrown out of india? Thats not gonna happen

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Originally posted by: Mr.Sareen

Actually , it might have been good riddance but in retrospect (like in '47 only or something) when the region was undergoing massive reorganization & India nowhere close to being the power it is now . But now , it can't afford such thing as :

a) it will be perceived in global community as a big defeat for an emerging global power and that too at the hand of a destitute state thereby considerably shaking global confidence upon India

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b) with a brazen arch enemy Pakistan & mighty,greedy China hands in gloves against India , it will also tend to boost separatist's movement elsewhere in India engineered by adversaries like Khalistan (Pakistan already trying hard for it) , NE states , Gorkhaland , Dravidanadu or any other yet unforseen thing risking integrity of India

So for now , Kashmir is a gangrene which India cannot afford to sever currently ; it just needs to go with peel & heal approach .

what's the point of holding onto 1.4 billion people, it is unmanageable at the moment. And going to be worse in future with population expected to reach 1.4 b and possibly even 2b. Separate country into 4 or at least 2. Why should south suffer and have govt sitting in Delhi who barely have interest in welfare of 4-5 southern states. Far east is same story.

Let states separate from India if they want to, I dont understand this greed, look at Singapore, some state might grow like that since it is efficient to manage smaller population/demographics.

only 9 percent current population of Kashmir wants to be under Indian rule, are we suggesting 90% should sell their land to Indians? we dont know their story, they definitely have a story nevertheless. 40000 Muslims have been killed by Indian army, this remains a fact, they have a reason to hate army and govt

Lets not be delusional, they prefer Pakistan since they dont kill them. Poverty is preferred over life, I would choose the same.

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