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Posted: 7 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: Flame.


The JEM took responsibility. The JEM is operated from Pakistan with its army's support. The group is seen as a terrorist group by most major countries. Let's not get politics into this please.


Yes I know they took the responsibility... But the timing is making me doubtful... Timing makes me think it's directed at BJP more...

I dislike both parties...just wanted to know the opinion of the forum.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AllThatCritique


Right lol. I guess nobody on this thread can comment on anything if they are not from here. 😆 Sure. What else. There are many from Kashmir speaking against the Jawans. Guess your opinion trumps there too acc to you. And you can use f**king ten million times. Wont really make your opinion fact.


And yours do right? Lol dude you just need something to bash army that's it. You aren't even aware of the situation here. You people can do anything to blame the army whether you have the knowledge or not. Go get yourself educated then speak. You talk abt human right violation? I think army doesn't have any rights right? I mean go and thow stones on them and kill innocent jawans but expect them not to retaliate right? These bas***ds want army to save their ungrateful asses but in return they will throw stones on them and cry abt human rights violation and people like you who don't even know the whole situation will keep on spreading Bullshit abt army.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: anjs


Yes I know they took the responsibility... But the timing is making me doubtful... Timing makes me think it's directed at BJP more...

I dislike both parties...just wanted to know the opinion of the forum.


Opposition will attack BJP no matter what but no opposition has nothing to do with this attack. Pakistani based terrorist organization is responsible for the attack.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjs

At the fear of being ridiculed and bashed, I want to ask this... Do you guys think it could be congress's game... To show BJP and government in negative ??


When enemy is taking the responsibility then why blame our own country people and make ourself weak infront of enemy ? Then blame can be on BJP too that they did it to win the election bcz they always use Army for their agendas. So please don't make such big accusations against any Indian whether we like them or not

No timing is non-perfect for enemy . Situation our country is facing now , so much hatred for each other and other religions , enemy is taking the advantage of it.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: anjs

At the fear of being ridiculed and bashed, I want to ask this... Do you guys think it could be congress's game... To show BJP and government in negative ??


it could be other way round too BJP wants to gain sympathy by showing we are with soldiers the same way they did propaganda of URI movie

dont trust these politicians and so called fake desh bhakts who give lectures on patriotism

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I am from the state of Kerala, and I am stating this because to many, state identity comes before national identity. However, I am an idealistic person who considers the rest of India as close to my heart as Kerala is. My heart is broken for the Jawaans, and their families. My heart is also bleeding for the people of Jammu and Kashmir. All my life, perhaps for selfish reasons as an Indian, I considered J&K as part of my home. But now, I am tired. I am tired for all the mindless violence and hate going on in that region. If J&K should be given independence for all this bloodshed to stop, let it be so.
People from J&K, may I ask, news media outlets always recount the stories of the violence inflicted upon Kashmiri men and rape of Kashmiri women. I want to ask, what is the truth in this? What is going on there? What can we do, as Indians, to help you? Feeling really powerless and sad.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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RIP. 😭

I wish people stop politicising terror attacks. Na koi BJP ka marta hai na congress ka. Marte toh bas Indians hai.


JEM and other organisations were getting desperate but Indian side became overconfident. J&K DG recently gave a statement that some distt will be terror free in some weeks then this happened.

Honest request to people. Please donate money to Bharat ke Veer app. CRPF, BSF are some branches which are very less funded compared to Army. They get lesser benefits. So outside help will be highly appreciated.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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The War we can't afford
https://www.arre.co.in/politics/pulwama-pakistan-uri-india-narendra-modi-crpf/

A voice of reason and a good article by Arre after a long time.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yea, I guess you guys are right. No party will stoop this low for political gains...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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There are Kashmiris in Indian army and police. Sometimes some of them can act as moles. Indian army has to face a double edged sword here. They need them. They act as local informers. At the same time, they cannot totally trust them. If they don't trust them fully, there will be accusation of human right violation.

Recently a Kashmiri soldier Aurangzeb was posthumously honoured with Shaurya Chakra from India. He was a buddy to Major Shukla. Major Shukla has killed the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen top commander Sameer Tiger.

Aurangzeb got murdered while visiting his family. Army suspected three people within the army itself who could have been informers to militants. It interrogated them and their family, which included the brother of one of the suspects ( Tawseef Ahmad Wani, 27). What happened next?
Wani got admitted to the hospital. He has accused the army of torturing him. As per him, Major Shukla threatened him and said, "Pose with a gun and post the photograph by tomorrow; if not, I will kill you in an encounter in the coming days.

I saw Wani's photograph. Surely there is a sign of torture. But the narration was not convincing. What will an army major gain if a civilian poses with a gun?
But for the Kashmiri media, this inconvenient question will not sell. So they all went with the headlines "Civilian tortured brutally by the army". This title rises the passion in Kashmiris and rise their hatred against India. These (Kashmiri) media demanded the probe into the torture and transfer of Major Shulka.
See, how this narration is so convenient for Hizb. They can get rid of a major obstacle with this narration. (Meanwhile the suspect, Wani's brother who was serving in the army is still missing).

On the other hand, militants are not bound by any human rights.

Recently Indian Army killed an Al-Badr commander Zeenat-ul-Islam. Militants suspected his 25 year old cousin sister (Ishrat Muneer) might have informed the army. (There is no evidence, as the villagers and her family said, why will a sister inform police. Nevertheless..). That girl got abducted when she was going to computer class, shot twice point blank, when she was folding her hands for mercy. They videoed the shoot and circulated in social media. Just ISIS style. Kashmir leaders took more than a day to condemn this cold blooded the event. Hurriyat remained silent.

Fact remains, people who got killed from both sides (Aurangzeb, Sameer Tiger, Zeenat-ul-Islam and Ishrat) are all Kashmiris. Kashmir is paying heavy price for the violent route it has chosen. But no one dares to condemn it openly because of fear (they will be shot dead).

True, there will be casualties in Indian side too (like yesterday). But India can sustain. But Kashmir has lost much much more in this futile violence.


Yesterday 40 Indian soldiers have been killed. This is Kashmiris reaction.
http://www.kashmirnewsobserver.com/DisplayNews.aspx?id=27394
I admire the restraint of forces, when youth pelted stones at that time. What if they had opened guns in the rage?

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Meanwhile (yesterday), Hurriyat leaders were busy paying tributes to two militants who got killed in Budgam the previous day (who did not have any tear for Ishrat or the Indian soldiers). All these Kashmiri leaders have been provided security cover from Indian government. All they do is celebrating the deaths. (If it happens from Kashmir side, they honour them as martyrs. If it happens from Indian side they say, it is paying price for occupancy). Both times, they are left untouched. I just want India to take back its protection cover on them and let them get killed by "unknown people".

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