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Originally posted by: zorrro

I am sorry but I dont
see how Aarya😕I understand
that a doctor who is averse to serving in the rural area under any
circumstance has his priority elsewhere. At the same time the reason for
working in a village may be out of some compulsion for all you know. I dont get
the logic of a medical professional being termed as more dedicated or
passionate because he happens to work in a rural area against those who may be
working much harder in a city. What you guys are talking about looks more like
a missionary --a mother Teressa type who sacrifices her all for saving
the downtrodden lives! You seem to forget that we are talking about
professionals and not some social worker which actually dont need to
belong to this field. Just about anyone can work for charity for people's
welfare. What stops them? As a medical professional he also has a duty to
continually upgrade his professional knowledge and skill and seek ways to
improve the present logjam. Simply giving firstaid and referring patients
elsewhere can be easily handled by lesser qualified personnel like the ANMs or
anganwadi workers. Why a MBBS doctor or MD doctor for that? If people really
expect the village conditions to improve then people from every walk will have
to contribute so that the MBBS or MD doctor is able to do justice to his
knowledge in treating people. Have good lab facilities, x-ray facilities
without which its like working blind. Pharma companies can provide
subsidised medicines, medical appliances, equipments to set these up. The
engineers and architects can contribute by helping to build good
hospitals, labs or dispensaries without their usual "commercial
interests" to enable better delivery of health services. The computer
professionals can help in better e-connectivity by volunteering their knowledge
and skill. I wonder what stops them from helping to save lives? Why leave
that only to a particular profession? Many medical colleges in India now have
facilites for telemedicine and video conferencing where their medical experts
do give"free" guidance, diagnosis and assistance to the hospitals
in far flung areas. Most of them do not get any extra pay for all the time and
expert advice they dole out. Many training sessions are also provided free. The
number of ever increasing patients seen in the public hospitals in the cities
are accommodated by these professionals without any incentive for the huge numbers
of patients seen. Yet they do their duty day and night, holiday or not, with
hardly any break. all this while attending to their academic and other
administrative duties unlike those posted in the villages. How are these
being considered less passionate than those in the rural areas is what I fail
to understand ???? If saving lives is the measure for passion then those with
better facilities at their disposal are doing a much better job and over and
above that they also contribute to a much larger extent by training other
professionals and also general public through their academic contribution. Some
at the senior levels also play an important role by influencing govt policies. All that is done with the goal
of serving the people. There isn't any
financial benefits in most of these activities in case you think otherwise.

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When needed people should not hesitate to work under
adverse conditions like you guys are saying.
But your expectation to "give up"
an established practice to migrate to an area where they do not get to realize
their full potentials of skill is impractical. There can be many ways to
contribute their expertise "more efficiently"
"without" having to physically "relocate permanently". More lives could
be saved this way without having to "sacrifice"
their own lives. That way more people can get involved. The govt has a
role to play which it does not. It can easily make rural posting for all new
doctors compulsory like being done in some states and levy a hefty bond or price
for those opting for off shore lucrative posts. The country does not
benefit one bit from such emigrants.
Those investing huge amounts as fees and other expenses in studying in pvt medical colleges may be
exempted perhaps . Incentives in the
form of preference during admission to higher studies to those who served in rural areas as being
done in Andhra Pradesh, Maharashtra, some
states of NE could serve as a motivation for all students. This should apply to all fields and not only
medical. Hoping others to leave established practices and move to the villages isn't
going to yield much result. Creating conditions for everyone to want to go there
would.

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Originally posted by: K.Universe.

^^Thanks Aarya, but that clapping emoticon embarrasses me to no end 😆

Put another way, if a physician capable of helping patients in any environment has an option to work in an urban area as well as a rural area and if that physician still chooses to work in a rural area keeping the needs of the rural people in mind knowing fully well that the comforts offered by an urban area will simply be absent in a rural setting, what exactly is driving that physician to do so? More passion? More compassion? For a doctor, what relation do passion and compassion hold?

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

Zorrro, you wrote a LOT!

Didn't get the time to edit as my old man was hovering around 😆 He thinks that the internet is the jaad of all fasaad so it was a choice between sending it as it is or risk not being able to reply at all😆

And why do I get the feeling that I am reading Angie's posts?

Why indeed? Could have something to do with the borrowings from my internship project for which I had to take some help 😳 BUt you tell me how you knew!!!!???😲

We are not discussing who can contribute more and from where, we are not talking about who has more ambition and where it is likely to get fulfilled, we are not interested in extraneous reasons that compel a physician to work in a rural setting; we are only talking about passion as in the strong emotion and compelling enthusiasm of those who voluntarily elect to work in a rural area keeping the medical needs of the rural people in mind.

Suicidal tendency perhaps who knows.

I am not arguing that those working in urban areas have less passion. I am arguing that those serving in rural areas, who have e a choice to work in rural as well as urban areas, who are equally capable of succeeding in any setting, have more passion. The difference is subtle, if you care to understand.

Choice I can understand but how the hell would anyone know if he could be equally successful in any setting unless he has actually been through that 😕. Say I am a good cricket player and I keep criticising the batsman in the team that I could do this and I could do that. When I get on the ground the story could be different.

Originally posted by: -Aarya-

Let me ask you a simple question, what is the core basic responsibility of a doctor (regardless of if they practice medicine in rural or urban area)?

- diagnosing diseases, accepting sole responsibility for the diagnosis
Now what tool do they need to diagnose different diseases?Do you mean to say that only urban area has all the basic tools adequate to diagnose cancer, a doctor in rural area can not diagnose cancer? (if needed I can even go in details on what's really needed to diagnose cancer, which is nothing more than a blood work)

And where and how do you do a blood work up in a village without a lab?

You can only guess that the patient could have cancer. What next? How much does that help?

-assessing the need for prescribing the relevant medicines
What are the basic symptoms of human body, fever, cold, cough, etc And most common symptoms of the medicines are available in rural area.

Lot of home remedies available for cough and cold. You dontneed a doctor for that.

I am not disagreeing with you that any professional working in any environment is not passionate about their work, off course everyone is passionate about their work, but what I am saying is the level of passion and personal satisfactions varies between individual who work with out any monetary gains.

How long can that satisfaction last without any monetary gains is what I wished to know?

Some work you can do without expecting any payment but entire life?

Originally posted by: zorrro

Didn't get the time to edit as my old man was hovering around 😆 He thinks that the internet is the jaad of all fasaad so it was a choice between sending it as it is or risk not being able to reply at all😆