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Posted: 10 years ago
#21
Marital rape is real and it should be a cause for concern worldwide .
A male dominant society and a society where marriage is the ultimate thing is never going to acknowledge this term .
But then I don't know how law will work for it with differentiating the cases which are genuine and the case which are just a misuse of this law but something definitely needs to be done about it.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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See, my relatives and friends are in legal profession and they admit they get to know:of such cases.

Marital rape is not a joke.

There are many:instances when women are forcibly married or pressurised, age is also lied about.

It's not always normal.

This mentality that I am husband and I can do anything is dangerous. Especially if there is violence or unnatural sex.

There are times when woman is not advised to have sex or her body may not be ready but still some men take no cognisance of this and go ahead.
There are cases when one woman is used to "please" all the men in the house though on paper she is married only to one.

Earlier even wife battering was considered okay but now we do have laws to addess it.

We definitely need to take this seriously.

I know some might misuse this law but they should frame laws in such a way so to avoid misuse.

To not make a law at all and leave woman at mercy of fate is dangerous.

It's not about feminism or meninism. All men are not abusive either. But it is important to respect other's body and wishes.

I am not in favour of forcing sex on anybody be it males or females.



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Posted: 10 years ago
#23
Men can file for divorce if they feel denying sex is mental cruelty.

Or just try to find solutions why this is happening. Like DG said, is it an emotional issue or health issue etc?

Rather than look at it negatively I think laws and proper debate on issues can serve as a starting point for being more sensitive to each other's needs and problems, and also promote greater self regulation.

Most men are indeed normal and ordinary, simple individuals as Souro said and they may not be violent or force themselves. But existence of laws as well as penalty for those who misuse them will serve as deterrent to crime I guess.

Earlier thrashing children was okay but now since laws are in place, then teachers try to be more patient and careful in dealing with children.

Laws and public discourse on such issues, if taken positively and rationally (instead of fighting between sexes or cultures), can actually benefit the society.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: PandorasBox

I have a serious question. If a woman is raped by her husband on a regular basis and he doesn't stop even after she makes it clear that she is not consenting and forces himself on her, what are her options? If there is no law against marital rape how does one go about to resolving it? If it's not against the law, many such husband can push the envelope and know their wife can't do anything about it.

Can a wife separate? is that an option?
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Posted: 10 years ago
#25
A few questions:-
Which flaw in our society is forcing girls to marry someone they are not comfortable with?
What is making boys undermine the importance of consent?
If a woman files a rape case against her husband, how can the court verify her accusations as genuine ?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Excellent discussion on marital rape. Some good points raised here. I feel marital rape is a very serious crime. Many women are stuck in such abusive marriages with rape without any redress. At the same time I know it is difficult to prove marital rape when there is no physical abuse.

A few things we need to educate society on
- Marriage does not give anyone a right over the other person. While physical intimacy is an important part of marriage, it is very important to understand, compromise and make adjustments. No one should feel entitled to sex in a marriage.
- It is OK to file divorce on grounds of sex. It is not shallow. While emotional and intellectual compatibility is extremely important, sex is vital too. Sex should be a regular and enjoyable part of relationships. If one person is feeling the sex is too little, too much, too stressful, not enjoyable - it is OK to divorce.
- Stigma of divorce needs to be reduced, especially divorce over sex. People need to feel more confident and comfortable getting out of bad unhealthy relationships.

That being said divorce laws do need to be simplified and made more objective. Alimony and child support should be fair based on income of each spouse not on gender.

Addressing laws to protect women like dowry laws are more difficult for me. I understand women abuse them, and that is grossly unjust. At the same time there are women in certain parts of the country who do rely on such laws and need protection. I'd hate to put women in genuine crisis situations at risk because of a few who abuse the law. I think it might be good to setup a panel of legal and social experts to evaluate these laws and enforce reforms that still protect women who need help, while preventing others from abusing the law.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Women have to be strong-willed.

A strong will usually comes from upbringing, education, financial independence and the society they inhabit. Genes play a very important role but I can see how that can stick in someone's craw so we will not go there :)

Unfortunately, some women are not strong willed owing to a lack of one or more attributes mentioned above. For instance, a strong will for a woman in Yemen or Syria won't do her much good because pretty much everything is stacked up against her.

On a personal note, I know that if I try anything funny with my wife without her consent, I will find my nuts in the osterizer / blender / mixer.

Even otherwise, I have no idea how one can enjoy an experience if they can clearly see that the other is not sharing the same enjoyment, so there!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Rape is a crime. The person raping is at fault, the society accepting and forcing women to still live in such situation is at fault, who has been raped and still leaving under the same roof is at fault, so what exactly are we debating here, are we debating who decides if it's rape since there are only two people involved...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: K.Universe.

Even otherwise, I have no idea how one can enjoy an experience if they can clearly see that the other is not sharing the same enjoyment, so there!



I think some people are just selfish and self-serving. Their enjoyment is all that matters, the other person's enjoyment doesn't matter.

Some men have the regressive mentality that women are there for pleasing the man. They believe that if she is dating them/married to them she is obliged to please them. They will force her against her will. As long as they enjoy it, it is all fine and good.

Even with men who do care about the other person. Many societies have built the notion that men are sexual beings and women are emotional beings. Consequently, men are surprised by female sexuality and women are surprised by male sensitivity.

Even women who have a strong will are hesitant to be vocal about what they enjoy. I'm surprised at how many fake it so their partners don't feel bad or endure pain because they won't vocalize when they are ready and when not.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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its not right to use the word rape since that makes countering the argument difficult without saying rape is ok... i think this boils down to how much drive each of them have... and given that indian marriages are more like going through motion of conforming to some social milieu...it becomes even more difficult...if i use the right word like forced intercourse.. and that too for reasons other than recreating some fanntasy... then it should be acceptable. as their needs might be different and thats the kind of thing people sign into a marriage to meet each others diverse needs..besides all that sharing togetherness...blah blah blah... but battering and other violent means shouldn't be acceptable as part of this act...since carnal instincts tend to be violent and crude at times...
Edited by qwertyesque - 10 years ago

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