Why does crime catch them young? - Page 2

Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

Very nice topic!!!!

I think Parents are responsible for this.parents need to have hawk eyes on their kids!!!!

Regards,

Mythili

Firstly THANKS 😳 for reviving or say enlivening the topic.

I think Mythili what you are trying to imply that since parents influence a child most during the formative years as they are the primary care takers. They are expected to have a deep relationship with the child hence be the principal guide of the child. SO if the child falters then they need to share the blame too.

Originally posted by: kisnakiradha

i DO to an extent agree with the psychologists

kids are being forced to in a sense grow up fast...i mean kids tehse days dun have a bachpan

push-up bras for 3yr olds? well done mary-kate and ashley olsen! 👏 😕 🤢

Is this True? Its Shocking.

Originally posted by: kisnakiradha

Thus...when kids dont get to live out their bachpan in innocence and wat not...they're not gonna be the most level-headed people on this planet now are they?

And yes, the parents shud control their kids...not nec. watch over them day and night...coz that wont work...need to instill VALUES...and u know, don't let them do stupid "grown up" things....let ur kids enjoy their bachpan

I agree that a children are maturing faster or loosing innocence. They exhibit are far too much intellect than the silly innocence. WHich has its own charm.

PArents and chilren need to have a well meaning deep bond wherein the values and virtues are defined.

Originally posted by: sowmyaa

Lavanya, very good topic. I don't think we can generlaize it. There are many research where one contradict other. First, I thought children look at their parents and family enviornment and background, then recently I read a research where they said family teaching matter, but most imporant is children pick up lot from peer. I have personally also seen how much peer affect my child compared to what I try to teach her.

I would say it is combination of parents who are careless, and also unnecessary exposure to television and internet. They should be exposed to shows and internet, but there should be parental control on it.

A statement by a therapist in your post-- I think kids always had curious and grown up questions, difference was they were so strictly governed, or maybe out of respect they did not "ask" such questions before (generation before us). now kids and parents have more friendly relation compared to generation back, and that's the reason now kids are found "asking" more grown-up questions.

Thanks Sowmyaa.
I agree that Parents shd not be blamed fully and Peer pressure plays a crucial role. BUt then who allowed the peers to become so influencing in a child's life? There is a phase when all children look upto their peers for social acceptance and bonding. Thats normal and happens with all children. But only some take to crime. Research shows that even in similar backgrd one child becomes a rebel and another does not. OF course if you believe in 'karma' then the easy way out is past birth. I have mentioned this becoz in INdia this is a convenient excuse.

I wld blame the parents more than the peers. Who are peers; themselves misguided kids. What made them get enticed in crime? But true the TV, internet, magazines are all blameworthy.

I would also say parents more than anybody...

The age at which the kids face these dilemmas is also the time when the parents are stuggling hard with their careers..I seem to be stuck with the "working mom" thing but have to again bring it out here...a stay home mom could be more involved with the day today activities of a child but if a child knows that she is gone for the whole day he might tend to stray...

As a parent I would definitely want to keep tabs on my child's wherabouts and the company that he keeps...I would also want to build up an open and trusting environment in the house so that the kid can discuss such things with me...

If you give them the right values and are there for them always the chances that they end up doing something bad are so much lower!!

Originally posted by: realitybites

Firstly THANKS 😳 for reviving or say enlivening the topic.

I think Mythili what you are trying to imply that since parents influence a child most during the formative years as they are the primary care takers. They are expected to have a deep relationship with the child hence be the principal guide of the child. SO if the child falters then they need to share the blame too.

Haah Lavanya ji!!!
I was going thro all the old topics and my focus was on less replies+ good topic and in this process I found this,infact I was trying to post similar topic but dropped my idea after seeing this topic So I thought I will irk people and then they will reply very fast,i was right.Even Cool Sowmyaa di also got irked by my first response in this topic.

Coming back to the topic :

Parents are definitely responsible but to only certain extent.The way parents teach children,control children really matters.Children should be taught with good things,good habits,they should be pampered to a limited extent.Ofcourse no Mother or Father wants their Child to be a spoiled brat but they need to take care.A child should be treated as a King upto 5 years from 5 to 15 years as slave and from 15 they should be treated as friends!!! In learning stage there should be strict vigilance on children,they should know how to talk,what to talk,how to talk with elders.These 5 to 15 years are very cruicial in any person's life,the things which we learn in this age really last long.So if a child is doing unethical,criminal activities at young age its just the negligence of parents.They cannot brush aside their responsibility and they brought those spoiled brats to the world and nobody is a born spoiled brat.

Other view of mine:
Parents give birth to children but not to their virtues.Parents can control their children only to some extent.Children have 100001 ways to deceive their parents,in this case how will the Parents know !!!!!
I realised this seeing some students of mine.Parents were really good,well mannered,traditional but their children were not proper becoz of the influence of friends,films they were not proper.In this case how can we blame parents!!!Another thing reg this crimes by youngsters.Consider the anti social elements and their parents.Those anti social element people might have been good students but they turn into that form only after getting influenced by some organisations,people and poor creatures their Parents will be completely unaware of these things.In many cases Police,Govt try to catch hold of parents to get the info about the anti social elements.Parents will not have any idea about the misdeeds of their children.

Cheers,

Mythili

Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

<FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>Haah Lavanya ji!!!I was going thro all the old topics and my focus was on <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>less replies+ good topic and in this process I found <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>this,infact I was trying to post similar topic but dropped <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>my idea after seeing this topic So I thought I will irk <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>people and then they will reply very fast,i was right.Even <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>Cool Sowmyaa di also got irked by my first response in <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>this topic.

<FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>Coming back to the topic :

<FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>Parents are definitely responsible but to only certain <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>extent.The way parents teach children,control children <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>really matters.Children should be taught with good <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>things,good habits,they should be pampered to a limited <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>extent.Ofcourse no Mother or Father wants their Child to <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>be a spoiled brat but they need to take care.A child <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>should be treated as a King upto 5 years from 5 to 15 <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>years as slave and from 15 they should be treated as <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>friends!!! In learning stage there should be strict vigilance <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>on children,they should know how to talk,what to talk,how <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>to talk with elders.These 5 to 15 years are very cruicial in <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>any person's life,the things which we learn in this age <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>really last long.So if a child is doing unethical,criminal <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>activities at young age its just the negligence of <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>parents.They cannot brush aside their responsibility and <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>they brought those spoiled brats to the world and nobody <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>is a born spoiled brat.

<FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>Other view of mine:Parents give birth to children but not to their <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>virtues.Parents can control their children only to some <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>extent.Children have 100001 ways to deceive their <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>parents,in this case how will the Parents know !!!!!I realised this seeing some students of mine.Parents were <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>really good,well mannered,traditional but their children <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>were not proper becoz of the influence of friends,films <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>they were not proper.In this case how can we blame <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>parents!!!Another thing reg this crimes by youngsters.Consider the <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>anti social elements and their parents.Those anti social <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>element people might have been good students but they <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>turn into that form only after getting influenced by some <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>organisations,people and poor creatures their Parents will <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>be completely unaware of these things.In many cases <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>Police,Govt try to catch hold of parents to get the info <FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>about the anti social elements.Parents will not have any idea about the misdeeds of their children.

<FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>Cheers,

<FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=3>Mythili

Good tactic Mythili 👏 . Hope Sowmyaa agrees 😉 .

Treating a child like a king! My 3 yr old nephew is treated the same way. He is way too pampered and has realised that he wil get his way by hook or by crook. If howling does not yeild result he turns into a sweet voiced angel. So I am not sure abt this. NOw extremes of anyhting is bad incld treating like a slave so will not agree on this.

IF a child gets lured into crime till the stage he/she is a responsibility of the parent I wld blame the parent. But as an adult yes more on the person as he/she makes a choice, at this stage parents are more of a supporting force. Kind of Peers are too your choice. But def somewhere our basic values are instilled at home unless you are the God's blessed one.

But still what is perplexing is that no one teaches rape and murder? I guess thats not the intent of the spoiled peers too.Where does this come from in a chiid's mind? (incld the peer). crime thrillers?

[.A child should be treated as a King upto 5 years from 5 to 15 years as slave and from 15 they should be treated as friends!!!]

Mythili,

I quoted this for my 9 year old whom I was forcing to slog for her quarterly exams...Poor girl she is counting the days for when she will turn 15 😉
😆 😆

and the reason she believes this whole heartedly is coz she honestly feels that her 3 year old sis is treated better than her coz we dont make her study!!😆

Originally posted by: TallyHo

[.A child should be treated as a King upto 5 years from 5 to 15 years as slave and from 15 they should be treated as friends!!!]

Mythili,

I quoted this for my 9 year old whom I was forcing to slog for her quarterly exams...Poor girl she is counting the days for when she will turn 15 😉 😆 😆

and the reason she believes this whole heartedly is coz she honestly feels that her 3 year old sis is treated better than her coz we dont make her study!!😆

😆 😆 My sympathies lie with your 9 yr old. LOt of time to turn 15! 😭

Somehow when young we always felt that the younger sibling is treated better and loved more. .

BTW this makes me ponder can sibling rivalry drive to crime?

Originally posted by: realitybites

But still what is perplexing is that no one teaches rape and murder? I guess thats not the intent of the spoiled peers too.Where does this come from in a chiid's mind? (incld the peer). crime thrillers?

Parents teach

"Let noble thoughts come to us from everyside"

but children think

"Let new crazy thought come from everyside"